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Post Post #25 (ISO) » Sun Apr 16, 2023 10:31 am

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In post 24, Ydrasse wrote: i dont share the same confidence yet that everyone in here is town
Psssh. Why'd you say that? You got me questioning again. Who makes you suspicious here?
I wonder if MH coached Italiano at all or if that was just rock solid scum play start to finish.
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Post Post #26 (ISO) » Sun Apr 16, 2023 10:36 am

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no one makes me suspicious but no one's made me really trust them either yet
i guess it might be a show of good faith from mastina to out she had an investigative because if she's town, it means that she probably does believe that we're townyish enough to divulge that info
if she's a wolf it's a bridge to cross later but i'm not really inspired by the world where she's one atm
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Post Post #27 (ISO) » Sun Apr 16, 2023 10:44 am

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Okay that's fair and makes sense. But also doesn't negate the fact that she could be mafia, knowing that we are town.
I wonder if MH coached Italiano at all or if that was just rock solid scum play start to finish.
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Post Post #28 (ISO) » Sun Apr 16, 2023 10:51 am

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i'm not negating it :> there is merit to trying to pocket a handful of people if they'll let you do it, but it's too early from her scant amount of posts beyond some poorly fleshed out assumptions
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Post Post #29 (ISO) » Sun Apr 16, 2023 10:52 am

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Okay. I trust her for now until I don't.
I wonder if MH coached Italiano at all or if that was just rock solid scum play start to finish.
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Post Post #30 (ISO) » Sun Apr 16, 2023 1:08 pm

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Okay so now I have an unironic townread on Ydrasse.
I believe her posting both in here and inthread to be her townplay.
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Post Post #31 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 12:42 pm

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I don't believe this is an all town neighborhood, but I don't have any hesitation to post in here.

My partners are iffy on you Mastina, especially Drixx, who played in a neighborhood with you in SMITE, where (as scum) he used your trust of a neighborhood to beat the town and you, so it seems a bit strange how you're so immediately trusting of this neighborhood again and have specifically locked us all as town, when any of us could be scum. Where is the suspicion? Even if I didn't know about you and Drixx's game, I still would've questioned the absolute confidence you have/had.

What are your thoughts about this? Talk to me.
I wonder if MH coached Italiano at all or if that was just rock solid scum play start to finish.
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Post Post #32 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 2:55 pm

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In post 31, ItalianoVD wrote:especially Drixx, who played in a neighborhood with you in SMITE, where (as scum) he used your trust of a neighborhood to beat the town and you, so it seems a bit strange how you're so immediately trusting of this neighborhood again and have specifically locked us all as town, when any of us could be scum.
Drixx apparently forgot the special circumstances behind that game.

Perhaps he should refresh himself on what
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It wasn't me blindly trusting my neighborhood to be town.

Drixx should also refresh his memory of me in general it seems. My trust in my neighbor was huge in Steven Universe 2. It made scum's life more difficult.
My trust in my neighbor in Yume's Cutsie UPick was huge. Trusting my neighbor in that game
won the town the game
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I literally linked to all the easily-found instances of me earlygame claiming mason publicly--link Drixx to that post and tell him to refresh himself on me by perusing some of those games.

I have good reason to say it's a masonry.
Aside from policy. Aside from the mason gambit. Aside from thinking the town can gain a huge advantage by turning the neighborhood into a masonry.

I legit think it *IS* a masonry.

I have an investigative role. I believe setup-spec-wise that investigative role is meant to be used to verify the neighborhood being all town. I believe I wouldn't have this role if the neighborhood had scum in it.
I also, separately, have a strong townread on you and Yume, and a weaker townread on DGB.

At this stage,
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If.

I legit think it's all town.
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Post Post #33 (ISO) » Tue Apr 18, 2023 8:32 am

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Aisa is mafia.

"Gun to my head here's a null read"

It's like pure waffling but with strongly worded language in that whole post.
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Post Post #34 (ISO) » Wed Apr 19, 2023 7:06 am

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I’m wanting to trust this to be all town and if so the game will be a lot easier for me and a lot harder for scum because if I go into my analysis already clearing a bloc, then the game is a lot more solvable.

I don’t really think Koba and Mala are scum though. I mean if they are I wouldn’t be able to see it, perhaps when it’s too late. :( But I’d say it’s in the quiet ones or in the ones who have posted but haven’t said much… Xofelf, Ausuka, maybe Arko or Kowah, although I kinda liked the way Kowah went at Koba. :)

What do y’all think?
I wonder if MH coached Italiano at all or if that was just rock solid scum play start to finish.
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I don’t feel like this specific town could have beaten this scum strategy played as strongly as it was.
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Post Post #35 (ISO) » Fri Apr 21, 2023 11:10 am

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My reads are never as strong as I make them out to be, but I had good reasons for scumreading Koba, and similarly so Mala.

COULD they be town?

Sure!

I don’t think that they are.

But, I've been medically incapacitated for the last few days, so I'll update you on my reads there after I get home from my cardiologist appointment.
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Post Post #36 (ISO) » Fri Apr 21, 2023 8:55 pm

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In post 35, mastina wrote: My reads are never as strong as I make them out to be, but I had good reasons for scumreading Koba, and similarly so Mala.

COULD they be town?

Sure!

I don’t think that they are.

But, I've been medically incapacitated for the last few days, so I'll update you on my reads there after I get home from my cardiologist appointment.
Koba is being surprisingly unreasonable with me if I do have to say so. More so than usual. They eventually come around by now. I'll keep a close eye on them and if I see there is literally no reasonable change in their read, then they would most likely be scum lockjawing on the fact that I can be limbait early on.
I wonder if MH coached Italiano at all or if that was just rock solid scum play start to finish.
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I don’t feel like this specific town could have beaten this scum strategy played as strongly as it was.
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I'm frustrated with myself that I can't get any sort of read on you.
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Post Post #37 (ISO) » Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:55 pm

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In post 35, mastina wrote: But, I've been medically incapacitated for the last few days, so I'll update you on my reads there after I get home from my cardiologist appointment.
Sorry to hear that. Hope you feel better.
I wonder if MH coached Italiano at all or if that was just rock solid scum play start to finish.
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I don’t feel like this specific town could have beaten this scum strategy played as strongly as it was.
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Post Post #38 (ISO) » Sat Apr 22, 2023 9:36 pm

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In post 37, ItalianoVD wrote:
In post 35, mastina wrote:But, I've been medically incapacitated for the last few days, so I'll update you on my reads there after I get home from my cardiologist appointment.
Sorry to hear that. Hope you feel better.
Sadly, no, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Post Post #39 (ISO) » Mon Apr 24, 2023 3:35 pm

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So Italiano was town... just like I said.
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Post Post #40 (ISO) » Mon Apr 24, 2023 4:29 pm

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In post 39, DrippingGoofball wrote:So Italiano was town... just like I said.
I told you!
All-town neighborhood.

I'll be investigating Malakittens, unless you've got better ideas.

My scum pool remains {Freedom, Malakittens, DKKoba}.

Freedom feels like a waste of an investigate, if we have other investigatives they're probably on Freedom and if we have a vig they're probably killing Freedom because Freedom is a lim people want.

Between Malakittens and DKKoba, more people seem to be townreading Malakittens. It's the less-valuable innocent, but the more-valuable guilty. I believe my role is better suited for getting guilties, so the higher-value guilty > higher-value innocent.
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Post Post #41 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2023 5:50 pm

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Alright, so I'm not dead and my investigation didn't fail, so I'm going to take the risk here and claim.

I'm a rolecop.

Last night, I investigated Malakittens.

She's a Compulsive Odd-Night Fruit Vendor Neighbor.

Twelve sets of eyes are better than four when it comes to assessing that.

I
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A compulsive fruit vendor doesn't seem like a role scum would have, here, not without some extra modifier, but I'd like second and third and fifth and twelfth opinions.
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Post Post #42 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2023 6:26 pm

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In post 1097, Ausuka wrote:I'm not living to endgame at this point I don't care. I am even-night compulsive fruit vendor neighbour, I've claimed this in the hood so there's a good chance scum know it anyway. Nothing of any value is lost if I am killed and I'm sure I will be at some point, so maybe work on the fact you have most of the playlist in your nullreads instead of whatever you're doing right now
Oh.

Mala's the Odd-night counterpart to this role.

That's never both scum, so there's a MAXIMUM of one scum in the duo.

I, uh, I don't think it's one scum either, tbh?

One of them
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Post Post #43 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2023 6:43 pm

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In post 1289, Malakittens wrote:I’m an Compulsive odd night fruit vendor town neighbor.
Fucking hell.
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Post Post #44 (ISO) » Sun Apr 30, 2023 6:45 pm

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So we can agree that was a scum hammer by Koba, right?

'Cause it was totally a scum hammer by Koba.

I'll be investigating Koba. Might be a waste since scum hammer = will go down anyway, but I'm not letting my number one scumread escape AGAIN.
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Post Post #45 (ISO) » Mon May 01, 2023 3:07 am

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yes that hammer was atrocious!
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Post Post #46 (ISO) » Mon May 01, 2023 4:18 am

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Wasn't it?

I was thinking it was too scummy to be scum but this is koba, koba is bold enough to try to pull that off.
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Post Post #47 (ISO) » Mon May 01, 2023 4:40 am

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I have returned from barbershop contest, it was occupying just about 100% of my mental energy.

I'll be able to spend more time on the game.
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Post Post #48 (ISO) » Sat May 06, 2023 1:12 pm

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Bad weekend for me rn tbh but am rolecopping Freedom tonight.
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Post Post #49 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2023 4:08 am

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Freedom is a neighbor, which is essentially a goon/vanilla.

There’s more, I know that I was targeted last night, but I don’t think that it’s optimal to share by what, yet.

While I think you’re town, I don’t have you as 100% conftown.

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