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Post Post #225 (ISO) » Mon Jun 19, 2023 6:09 pm

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In post 224, Theta Alpine wrote:
In post 208, Peregrine wrote: I will be very happy if we manage to win, my spirits were not high after night one!!!
i perhaps should have explained that i do not tend to survive games on this account and it was a burst of misplaced optimism that led me to think i might survive this game
in fact i have never survived to the end of a game as scum

i do however have a 100% win rate as scum so

Getting double night killed helped not clear any of the people who night killed you, though.

Firebringer’s Epiphany has been forgotten, though, it seems. But if it’s remembered, I think Klick gets faded tbh.
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Post Post #226 (ISO) » Mon Jun 19, 2023 8:33 pm

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I had 100% winrate before i lost game
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Post Post #227 (ISO) » Tue Jun 20, 2023 3:43 am

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In post 210, Peregrine wrote:I also think this game is an example of meta being bad actually!!!
No, Klick accurately described the difference between Drew's towngames and scumgames.

This game is an example of being bad at actually recognizing the meta you have.
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Post Post #228 (ISO) » Tue Jun 20, 2023 3:46 am

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In post 218, Boonskiies wrote:What an endgame, the slippery little Doctor.
I got many things, including my predictions, wrong.

Fortunately my Drew read isn’t among them!

I’m apparently one of the few.
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Post Post #229 (ISO) » Tue Jun 20, 2023 3:47 am

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In post 222, Boonskiies wrote:This is the best I’ve seen of Drew scum.
I’m honestly not impressed, tbh. Drew being townread for being blatantly in his scum meta is a town error, not a scum achievement imo.
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Post Post #230 (ISO) » Tue Jun 20, 2023 4:54 am

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Need For Speed: Mafbon
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Post Post #231 (ISO) » Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:10 am

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hmmm
let me guess
klick is not just two shot
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as town won 5 games | lost 6 games | mislimd 3 times | dayvigged once | nightkilled 3 times | vengekilled once | survived 3 times
as scum won 5 games | lost 1 game | eliminated twice | dayvigged once | vigged once | survived once | perfect scum victory once
and if you count large normal 204 then i won that game after replacing out as scum
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Post Post #232 (ISO) » Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:15 am

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Or Frogs has additional jail.

Either way.
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Post Post #233 (ISO) » Tue Jun 20, 2023 6:10 am

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Drew is playing a wonderful game and I do not think it needs to be downsized for town not playing perfect!!! I don’t think anyone played poorly this game honestly, and everyone worked with the hands they had!!
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Post Post #234 (ISO) » Tue Jun 20, 2023 7:15 am

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Claimed to heal jailkeeper claim, instead of VT personally cleared.
Then didn't clear anyone while being second weak role.

This perfectly passes as "no way it's scum".

No further commentary is needed.
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Post Post #235 (ISO) » Tue Jun 20, 2023 7:45 am

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In post 234, Enchant wrote:Claimed to heal jailkeeper claim, instead of VT personally cleared.
Then didn't clear anyone while being second weak role.

This perfectly passes as "no way it's scum".

No further commentary is needed.
I can’t say I’m surprised about a bias not being reconsidered in light of the evidence.

While there was valid reasons to not hide, that Drew didn’t claim said reasons
should
've tipped them off.

Drew's claim is fine if he said "I feared three scum still alive" which, with 7 alive, would be valid.

He didn’t claim this. He used some nonsense reasons instead. Logically, an indicator of his mindset not being town.

I don’t expect Ali or a tunneled Klick to apply logic.
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Post Post #236 (ISO) » Tue Jun 20, 2023 7:57 am

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Yeah, the not claiming weak, even if it was Malakittens is rough.

And they did get super lucky with the accidental no kill shenanigans.
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Post Post #237 (ISO) » Tue Jun 20, 2023 7:57 am

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And ugh, Norwegian asked for replacement
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Post Post #238 (ISO) » Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:03 am

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In post 237, Boonskiies wrote: And ugh, Norwegian asked for replacement
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Post Post #239 (ISO) » Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:04 am

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Drew can just hammer at this point

But hammertesting being the whole be all and all thing that is used to judge someone is town in end game is overplayed and ive played around with it to make me look "confirmed town" before.

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Post Post #240 (ISO) » Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:05 am

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i think he's worried about possible Jailkeeper Frogs. Idk, though.
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Post Post #241 (ISO) » Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:05 am

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i want him to just end, haha.
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Post Post #242 (ISO) » Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:51 am

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Drew might've messed up big time at this point by not hammering.
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Post Post #243 (ISO) » Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:58 am

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I think they still can win, depending on replacement, but they really need to frame it like it's a decision between Klick and Norwegian slot.

Rough rough replacement tbh.

Technically they always can play the 'he could have won by hammering' card, so just kinda running the motions now.
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Post Post #244 (ISO) » Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:16 pm

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In post 242, Boonskiies wrote: Drew might've messed up big time at this point by not hammering.
possibly. really depends on if the replacement can come in and sus out drew hard
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Post Post #245 (ISO) » Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:22 pm

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Hit up a few people who asked to replace in earlier, but nobody replaced out of this game bar hydra/alts.
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Post Post #246 (ISO) » Tue Jun 20, 2023 2:09 pm

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Enchant's right, this ended up being a bastard game. :cry:

Interdimensional Traveler Role I meant to have the role be 'not informed about this.', but originally I had it be informed, so I changed it in like every single place except my Scrivener where I copy/pasted, and I copy/pasted my old version onto this game's signups, but it's different that Klick's Role PM.

OOF. Hopefully Drew just thinks he read it wrong, and doesn't check the Edit time.

Klick's Role PM does specifically state will not be informed of this.
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Post Post #247 (ISO) » Tue Jun 20, 2023 2:12 pm

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oh dear, mod errors suck :(
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Post Post #248 (ISO) » Tue Jun 20, 2023 2:17 pm

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I still prefer Interdimensional Traveler to be Announcing by default as it can cause an investigative role to lose
two nights
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Post Post #249 (ISO) » Tue Jun 20, 2023 2:19 pm

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Well, other than that, this game ran pretty smoothly, I must say. I was even hard VLA for like 6 days.

I think I want to double down on this style of game, though. Basically, a regular game of Mafia, but the roles and setups are basically cartoonized looney toons style, which in theory, was the idea of BooneyToonz in the first place, but I don't think I've really been able to truly capture how to make that come across until this game, and I think that came about through revamping the BooneyToonz Rolebook. Was really the first time I've evolved it since I made the BT Discussion thread.

I'm going to do another game shortly after this one, if anyone's interested. I'm gonna take what parts weren't fun about this one, and try to see what I can do with that in mind.
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