Umlaut wrote: ↑ Okay, sure. The setup is just:Daytalk: Yes
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Multitasking: No (not that it matters, but I think I have to declare it either way so this is what I'll declare)
My concept is basically "as close to vanilla as a 10:3 closed normal can be," and if we think the balance is off I'd prefer to fix it by adjusting the number of masons if that will suffice, though I did also consider giving the Mafia some information about the setup if that helps tweak things a bit. (e.g. "there are no Town players with night actions").
I'll be using the same ruleset as in my last Mini Normal game, with the exception of replacing "All roles are multitasking" with "Roles are not multitasking unless explicitly declared so".
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okay so
iirc, this setup is considered to be ~balanced as an open, but slightly scumsided as a closed setup. adding a whole another mason would be an overkill, though.
first idea is giving one of the masons something on top of them being masons, but depends on what koba thinks i guessI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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oh its one of these lol
wrt extra info for mafia thats a no go here - we are leaning scumsided here. Mafia have 7 slots they are able to easily push for a miselim and need to only push 4(so town has to clear 4)
3 self clearable roles p strong for town - however there will be the ability to claim as mafia easily.
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Town Mason-Finder would be both useful and informative (given the role itself would suggest, though not confirm, that a masonry exists). Maybe slightly double-edged since it would also suggest that to the Mafia once it flips.
Town Bodyguard would also work for me.“There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say, ‘There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say there are two kinds of people in this world,and the other kind,’ and those whodon’tsay. Well, then there’s me.” — J.R. “Bob” Dobbs-
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town bodyguard seems too strong. town mason-finder would work, i think?I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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Could also do Role Cop, in this setup that's the same thing as Mason-Finder but without suggesting anything about a masonry.“There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say, ‘There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say there are two kinds of people in this world,and the other kind,’ and those whodon’tsay. Well, then there’s me.” — J.R. “Bob” Dobbs-
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rolecop's stronger for town, should scum decide to fakeclaim anything other than VTI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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truuuue.
Mason-Finder is good then, will see what Dk thinks.“There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say, ‘There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say there are two kinds of people in this world,and the other kind,’ and those whodon’tsay. Well, then there’s me.” — J.R. “Bob” Dobbs-
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Either rolecop or Mason finder work-
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I think all that's left are role and result PMs, then?
I tend to write my role PMs such that I can send them outen masse, so in particular my Mason PM is not going to list the Masons explicitly but rather I will list them in the intro post of their PT, and likewise for the Mafia.
Spoiler: Role PMs
Spoiler: Result PMs
One question: I typically list the Mafia's full roles in the intro post of their PT, since they have no real reason to hide them from one another. Is it Normal-compatible to do the same in the Masonry? (In this case all it would reveal is that none of them have some additional power beyond being a Mason.)“There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say, ‘There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say there are two kinds of people in this world,and the other kind,’ and those whodon’tsay. Well, then there’s me.” — J.R. “Bob” Dobbs-
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PMs look fine to me
i've done it before and i didn't get yelled at by implo, so i assume it's fine to do so.In post 10, Umlaut wrote: Is it Normal-compatible to do the same in the Masonry?I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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For my own notes later, the final setup is:
3xMafia Goon
3xTown Mason
1xTown Mason-Finder
6xTownie“There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say, ‘There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say there are two kinds of people in this world,and the other kind,’ and those whodon’tsay. Well, then there’s me.” — J.R. “Bob” Dobbs-
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This is going into signups. I think this would probably qualify for the simple tag if you do want to add it and the reviewers were okay with it, though it's entirely optional and heading into signups now either way-
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Nah, I like to keep 'em guessing“There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say, ‘There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say there are two kinds of people in this world,and the other kind,’ and those whodon’tsay. Well, then there’s me.” — J.R. “Bob” Dobbs-
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