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[humaneatingmonkey]

thought it will never happen again lmao

[humaneatingmonkey]

I still think HEM needed to go

i knew the sunk cost will be immense my dude

[the worst]

don't feel all that sunk-costy, i feel pretty justified! you had an insanely unlucky towngame, would never have looked all that towny on a reread and would've made yourself a lot harder to lim the closer to f3 we got. actually i did a tonne of work on the last phase as well i just felt less compelled to be like, extremely convincing.

hi i reviewed this very thrilling and complex setup

what was the motivation behind the town mason finder?
it's a neat variation to an already riveting setup so not implying criticism just super curious

[humaneatingmonkey]

would've made yourself a lot harder to lim the closer to f3 we got

would have never went to f3 with dragons dead!

i think you're miscalibrated right now. maybe you've played too much with clever people. the reasons to scumread dragons became your reasons to townread him. it was a straightforward game and there should be a measure inside you to understand gamestate, and not just read individual players.

[DkKoba]

don't feel all that sunk-costy, i feel pretty justified! you had an insanely unlucky towngame, would never have looked all that towny on a reread and would've made yourself a lot harder to lim the closer to f3 we got. actually i did a tonne of work on the last phase as well i just felt less compelled to be like, extremely convincing.

hi i reviewed this very thrilling and complex setup

what was the motivation behind the town mason finder?
it's a neat variation to an already riveting setup so not implying criticism just super curious

that was datisi, i was find passing as is with triple mason shrug.

it was a flexible slot to have a scummy lookng role, and the assumption that scum will actually claim a PR

[humaneatingmonkey]

don't feel all that sunk-costy, i feel pretty justified!

that's what it would feel!

[the worst]

don't feel all that sunk-costy, i feel pretty justified! you had an insanely unlucky towngame, would never have looked all that towny on a reread and would've made yourself a lot harder to lim the closer to f3 we got. actually i did a tonne of work on the last phase as well i just felt less compelled to be like, extremely convincing.

hi i reviewed this very thrilling and complex setup

what was the motivation behind the town mason finder?
it's a neat variation to an already riveting setup so not implying criticism just super curious

that was datisi, i was find passing as is with triple mason shrug.

it was a flexible slot to have a scummy lookng role, and the assumption that scum will actually claim a PR

makes sense, thanks!

[the worst]

would've made yourself a lot harder to lim the closer to f3 we got

would have never went to f3 with dragons dead!

i think you're miscalibrated right now. maybe you've played too much with clever people. the reasons to scumread dragons became your reasons to townread him. it was a straightforward game and there should be a measure inside you to understand gamestate, and not just read individual players.

hmm if i flip my reasons around, i think i still need you flipped before i'm comfortable dying & seeing the game approach its end. especially with 3 flips left. i talked about it a bit in the last part of my case, if we lived in another universe where it went bob=>gera=>f3 of [you, dragons, ckd] for example i think that's almost impossible to solve.

[humaneatingmonkey]

i do need to be flipped before f3 but not before std. we had momentum!

[the worst]

if you were scum, town wouldn't have kept momentum!

fair though, i'm glad we got this one before f3

[humaneatingmonkey]

when you laid down a novella with chapters on why I'm scum, that's when i knew i just had to hunker down and surrender because there was no getting through to you after that (even now you're tunneled on me)

if you were scum, town wouldn't have kept momentum!

bro but i wasn't scum. i think this is a game where there's a strong case for town!me but because i have a reputation of being "good" (i'm really not that good, i just like playing it up), i'm doomed to be always a miselim because i'm not good enough to have a reputation of being good.

[geraintm]

sheeping everyone else & never trusting my own instincts or logic again

gg everyone, was a fun one, thanks for picking this up shea!

You think you were bad?
God I'm awful at this game

[Thestatusquo]

as someone who wants to run other games, I agree!

[Thestatusquo]

when you laid down a novella with chapters on why I'm scum, that's when i knew i just had to hunker down and surrender because there was no getting through to you after that (even now you're tunneled on me)

if you were scum, town wouldn't have kept momentum!

bro but i wasn't scum. i think this is a game where there's a strong case for town!me but because i have a reputation of being "good" (i'm really not that good, i just like playing it up), i'm doomed to be always a miselim because i'm not good enough to have a reputation of being good.

I feel this in my bones.

The number of times that I've heard "Shea hasn't done a single thing that makes me think he's scum but I can't town bin him because he has a strong scum game" this year has been infuriating lol.

[Klick]

I felt quite bad for leaving this, especially after seeing Greeting replaced out at the same time. I thought it'd be alright but things shook up at my job substantially and I got very busy. Thanks for taking it as far as you did scumteam subs.

[humaneatingmonkey]

STD is such a subtle killer

[Thestatusquo]

Klick is even the one who has said that about me!

Also hey there klick howsit goin

[Klick]

when you laid down a novella with chapters on why I'm scum, that's when i knew i just had to hunker down and surrender because there was no getting through to you after that (even now you're tunneled on me)

if you were scum, town wouldn't have kept momentum!

bro but i wasn't scum. i think this is a game where there's a strong case for town!me but because i have a reputation of being "good" (i'm really not that good, i just like playing it up), i'm doomed to be always a miselim because i'm not good enough to have a reputation of being good.

I feel this in my bones.

The number of times that I've heard "Shea hasn't done a single thing that makes me think he's scum but I can't town bin him because he has a strong scum game" this year has been infuriating lol.

Responding to both of you, coming from someone who doesn't have that strong of a scum game, so take it with a pinch of salt

I feel like defining what exactly it is that makes you town and making it clear to the others in the game is an important skill as town

When you're town you're in a unique position to know your range and limits, what you're capable of in the game and what you have done that you wouldn't have done as the baddies. Capitalise on it and make it clear enough what the differences are that it can be followed by the thread at large

That being said I think HEM was very good in this game even despite the miselim

PEdit: hello!! Got work right now so gtg but I'm well <3

[Greeting]

Congratulations to town! Sadly, I had to replace out due to work-related issues.

[Thestatusquo]

oh I'm just complaining for the sake of complaining, don't mind me.

[DkKoba]

having people be lazy around solving you solely for the fact of being good at not being polarized is never fun bc not being polarized is good for the meta. good scumplay isnt perfect, it just blurs the line between town meta and scum meta well while manipulating well.

[the worst]

Hmm I scumread HEM because he looked aligned with scum. I felt the need to give him very little space because he has a good scumgame. Being hesitant to townread people because they have a good scumgame is pretty fallacious, I hope I'm above that. I've been policied before for being perceived as being good at scum (i hope dkkoba is still watching to find this funny) and it's like, beyond a vibe kill.

Ah well I've explained my HEM read. It was wrong, and I wish I'd allocated my time more widely, but I don't regret it.

Congratulations to town! Sadly, I had to replace out due to work-related issues.

Hope you're doing okay.

Also cool to see more Australian scummers, I wasn't aware!

[Elements]

Fun game, thanks all!

[Datisi]

hi i reviewed this very thrilling and complex setup

what was the motivation behind the town mason finder?
it's a neat variation to an already riveting setup so not implying criticism just super curious

the laws of the mafiascum universe say "friends and enemies is a balanced open setup but a scumsided closed setup"

i felt that the mason finder is a role that didn't give any hard EV points for town, but it could potentially help town, while not actually being confirmable and sounding kinda like a scummy claim too

[humaneatingmonkey]

i mean worstie it happens to all of us, even happens to me so it's funny to see someone else make the same decisions that you would have and having an insight on why he makes those mistakes from the other side

it's just what happens when you play a deception/detection psychosocial game. we're gonna be humans