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Post Post #325 (ISO) » Tue Sep 12, 2023 6:40 am

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STRONGMAN KILL SKITTER
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Post Post #326 (ISO) » Tue Sep 12, 2023 6:41 am

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In post 324, DragonEater70 wrote: Hi cakez
Hello
In post 325, DragonEater70 wrote:
STRONGMAN KILL SKITTER
Got it
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Post Post #327 (ISO) » Tue Sep 12, 2023 6:59 am

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I will be SO FUCKING HAPPY if we win this

I feel like I fucked up so many opportunities, like we could get Skitter to E-1 on Day 2 and wouldn't have to worry about cop on D3.

Or I could 1v1 cop on Skitter on D3

But despite these enormous fuckups we still had a victory railroaded since Skitter said Ausuka is D4 lim

But now I
maybe
ruined this with that scummy hammer.

Hopefully not though
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Post Post #328 (ISO) » Tue Sep 12, 2023 6:59 am

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Aaaaaaaaaaaaah
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Post Post #329 (ISO) » Tue Sep 12, 2023 7:01 am

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I REALLY want a fast night to end this but I also think it would be scum indicative for me to ask for a fast night
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Post Post #330 (ISO) » Tue Sep 12, 2023 10:42 am

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In post 326, SirCakez wrote:
In post 324, DragonEater70 wrote: Hi cakez
Hello
In post 325, DragonEater70 wrote:
STRONGMAN KILL SKITTER
Got it
Just making sure you saw the link cause you did ask to be added but never used it

Not that it's relevant or anything.
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Post Post #331 (ISO) » Tue Sep 12, 2023 10:43 am

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Ugh I feel so cruel for hammering Ari during her nap
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Post Post #332 (ISO) » Tue Sep 12, 2023 1:53 pm

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In post 330, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 326, SirCakez wrote:
In post 324, DragonEater70 wrote: Hi cakez
Hello
In post 325, DragonEater70 wrote:
STRONGMAN KILL SKITTER
Got it
Just making sure you saw the link cause you did ask to be added but never used it

Not that it's relevant or anything.
Thanks, I meant to join and then brain blanked like usual
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Post Post #333 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 9:40 am

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In post 888, marcistar wrote: Ari - Honestly it was mainly what someone else said that has convinced me that shes scum.
Like, among all the things temporallich has said
In post 449, TemporalLich wrote:and now Aristeia's playing the "RVS vote outside of RVS" gambit and that gambit seems to have worked as it involved DE70...
DOES THAT NOT CAUSE YALL TO GO THINKY THINK? Like obviously that alone isn't enough but it interested me so much last phase that I isoed ari and convinced myself!! LIKE I SEE IT

MAYBE IM BEING DELULU BUT BEING DELULU IS THE SELULU

i'm not sure if i can explain things better than temporallich could ever. but i believe in this motion!!
i actually dont believe her "scumhunting" is actually scumhunting, i think shes just making comments along to things a majority of the time.

these are like, setting up for if it backfires and shiiii:
In post 802, Aristeia wrote:I'd be willing to vote skitter but I'm kind of terrified that if she flips town it's going to be awful and I'd really just like to get it right today
In post 796, Aristeia wrote:I don't have a very good track record of reading people who don't actually play tbh

Without reading context at all, this and a few other things in her iso reads as just shutting down convo:
In post 722, Aristeia wrote:I don't really get the impression that Datisi is leaving himself open to pushing dragons? he's like been accusing ausuka of trying to trick him into voting dragons ?

i dont like how she treated temporallich last phase.

but all over all im not interested in continuing to try to find reasons for something thats just sheeping a dead player OWO
I just wanna say this post is so fucking amazing and I'm sorry for killing you Marci if you ever read this.
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Post Post #334 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 10:40 am

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Also damn, I just realized I have so much blood on my hands :(
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Post Post #335 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 10:41 am

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Being scum is awesome and notsome simultaneously.

(notsome is a made up word meaning not awesome)
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Post Post #336 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2023 10:41 am

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Will this scum PT get to 15 pages before the game ends? Probably.
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Post Post #337 (ISO) » Mon Sep 18, 2023 7:50 pm

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Okay I'm just gonna post here my plan, and in fact send here exactly every single post I'm planning to send in the main thread, so I can look at it after it's written and judge how it looks.
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Post Post #338 (ISO) » Mon Sep 18, 2023 7:50 pm

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Will this make me sound extremely artificial? Maybe

Do I totally feel like anything I might do might spell immediate doom for me right now? Probably.
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Post Post #339 (ISO) » Mon Sep 18, 2023 7:54 pm

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So, I know Ausuka is actually the slot I should be pushing because I've been pushing her early Day 3 and I should be sheeping skitter.

But if I'm honest, I feel Ausuka as a player is more likely to be happy with sheeping a dead town, rather than Datisi as a player. So if sheeping skitter meant voting Datisi I would 100% vote Datisi and win. But I don't think Datisi is going to actually agree to sheep Skitter, and honestly Datisi sounds pretty convinced I am scum.

So if I vote Ausuka I'm lock scum in her eyes and Datisi will probably vote me and it's a GG.

Therefore I have to change my mind or somehow make it seem like I found new evidence to support scum!Datisi
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Post Post #340 (ISO) » Mon Sep 18, 2023 7:57 pm

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The thing is, this evidence actually has to be natural and not forced, cause otherwise I'll be backing myself into a corner.

So, let's try out some approaches and see which one sounds natural.
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Post Post #341 (ISO) » Mon Sep 18, 2023 8:00 pm

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DragonEater70 wrote:Ahhhh I am not sure if I need to sheep Skitter and my D2 / early D3 read and vote Ausuka, or just follow my late D3 read and vote for Datisi
DragonEater70 wrote:This is so fucking stupid.
DragonEater70 wrote:Okay I'll try to do what I said I'd do earlier, one sec
{insert quotewall here, with me deducing that Datisi is scummy}
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Post Post #342 (ISO) » Mon Sep 18, 2023 8:03 pm

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DragonEater70 wrote:Okay so I'm actually thinking right now about it, and while it's true that Skitter said it's you/Ari, I am not entirely sure how she got to that conclusion (except for maybe my own crazy miller gambit theory which we already agreed didn't make sense).

So am gonna have quick look at the part of Day 3 where this happened and see if I can figure it out
{insert some quote wall where I disagree with SKitter (or maybe not?)}
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Post Post #343 (ISO) » Mon Sep 18, 2023 8:05 pm

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Wow I just realized something totally unrelated:

If while scum I genuinely act friendly to people rather than be all strategy like or buddying, then I won't feel guilt for being scum since I won't be lying to anyone.
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Post Post #344 (ISO) » Mon Sep 18, 2023 8:06 pm

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Ughhh let's try this maybe
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Post Post #345 (ISO) » Mon Sep 18, 2023 9:35 pm

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In post 1124, skitter30 wrote: so like should i just think it's dats/ausuka? wouldn't they have more chilling/fun vibes as scum together? idk
Holy fuck I just realized I was so tunneled on solving it as Ari/Datisi that I misread this post (I read it as Skitter saying Dats/Ari). Skitter was actually considering Datisi/Ausuka.

Holy hell we could have won if we actually went for that solve and I didn't act like an idiot yelling for Ari to be the lim.
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Post Post #346 (ISO) » Mon Sep 18, 2023 9:36 pm

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Uhhhhhhhh

Imagine if we actually got Skitter to vote Datisi

fuck my life.
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Post Post #347 (ISO) » Mon Sep 18, 2023 9:39 pm

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Oh no I just realized I had a whole strategy thought up where I explain how Aristeia was actively avoiding spewing Datisi town in Day 3 when she realized she might be the lim, but this only works if I solve the game as Ausuka/Ari which unfortunately I just explained above why it wouldn't be a good idea cause datisi votes me like 80% of the time here.

Because I can make a compelling towncase for Datisi but not really a compelling scum case for Ausuka

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Post Post #348 (ISO) » Mon Sep 18, 2023 9:43 pm

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Okay time to re-evaluate my plans.

What makes a better victory? Going for the solve where the person I call "town" actually thinks I'm "slightly more likely to be town", even if I don't really have a compelling argument in favor of that solve and might appear like I'm just going for the path of least resistance; or going for the solve where I can produce a metric fuckton of evidence in favor of that solve, even if I have to call the person who votes me 80% of the time "town", and might appear as if I'm flipflopping too hard?
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Post Post #349 (ISO) » Mon Sep 18, 2023 9:44 pm

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Actually disregard how I appear, I can control how I appear. I just need to evaluate whether or not Datisi has a reasonable chance to vote Ausuka or not.
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