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Open 891: STDBINSBICACOT (Game Over)

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Thu Oct 26, 2023 7:00 am

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Open 891: STDBINSBICACOT

Or: Stack the Deck But It's Not Scumsided But I Changed A Couple Of Things


Players:
  1. Something_Smart
  2. Dunnstral
  3. Taly
    pisskop
    KatyKimFanClub

  4. Titus
  5. Dannflor
  6. davesaz
  7. shaddowez
  8. Alisae
  9. gob
  10. Psyche
    Doctor Drew

  11. Roden
  12. Black
  13. Gamma Emerald
    Crescent
    Hero at Heart
Spoiler: Alive
  • Taly
  • Psyche
  • Roden
  • Black


Spoiler: Dead
Titus:
Town Rolecop
, modkilled on Day 1.

Dunnstral:
Vanilla Townie
, killed on Night 1.

shaddowez:
Vanilla Townie
, killed on Night 1.

Gamma Emerald:
Mafia Goon
, eliminated on Day 2.
Dannflor:
Vanilla Townie
, killed on Night 2.

davesaz:
Town Bodyguard
, killed on Night 2.

Something_Smart:
Mafia Ascetic Informed
, eliminated on Day 3.
Alisae:
Town Vigilante
, killed on Night 3.

gob:
Mafia Goon
, killed on Night 3.

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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Thu Oct 26, 2023 7:26 am

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1. Site Rules apply.
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5. If you break any of these rules, you could be warned, force-replaced, or modkilled, depending on the severity of what you did.
6. If a player is modkilled, they will die and become a Neutral Survivor resulting in their loss.
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8. Once you die you may not post anymore.
9. No encryption please. Breadcrumbing is fine, but things like encrypting your role into scrambled text are not. If you have any questions about what does and does not violate this rule, feel free to ask me, and I will answer.
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16. I reserve the right to change any of these rules or any of the time, or make any judgement irregardless of what these rules say (although I will try to follow what I have said here as closely as possible.)
17. The spirit of these rules is what counts, not the exact wording. If you find a loophole in these rules, don't be surprised when you get punished anyway.

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20. Day 1 has a deadline of 10 days and subsequent days will have a deadline of 7 days.
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Thu Oct 26, 2023 8:22 am

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SetupThe setup for this game is Stack The Deck But It's Not Super Scumsided But I Changed A Couple Of Things. Please feel free to just call it Stack the Deck or some variation of that.

This setup's open page can be found here.

The setup has 10
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Spoiler: Initial Role PMs
TownWelcome!

You are
Town
.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Please confirm by replying with your alignment.

MafiaWelcome!

You are
Mafia
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You win when at least 50% of living players are Mafia, or nothing can prevent the same.


You may talk to your partner, and Stack the Deck, here.

The game thread is here.

Please confirm by replying with your alignment.


TraitorWelcome!

You are a
Traitor
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You win when at least 50% of living players are Mafia, or nothing can prevent the same.


Your partners are X and Y, but you cannot talk to them unless you are recruited. If you are the last Mafia left alive (and are still a Traitor), you will be endgamed.

The game thread is here.

Please confirm by replying with your alignment.


After the Initial Role PMs are sent out, the Mafia can choose up to 3 of the following abilities. They can assign these abilities to each member, including the traitor if they choose to recruit them. A non-recruited traitor can't be given a role.
  • Roleblocker
  • Rolecop Tracker (rolecops and tracks a single target)
  • Ascetic Informed (knows the full setup)
  • Bulletproof Godfather (appears as innocent to the Cop and Vanilla to the rolecop)
  • Modified Rolestopper (Rolestops all abilities except kills on the target)
  • Recruit Traitor
Mafia always have daytalk and multitasking.

After this, Town Power Roles are distributed using the Points system. Town starts with 3 points, and will gain 1 extra point for every ability the Mafia chooses. Town power roles are as follows:

2 Points
  • Cop
  • Jailkeeper
  • Mason x2
  • Vigilante
  • Watcher
1 Point
  • Bodyguard
  • Friendly Neighbor
  • Goon Cop
  • Rolecop
  • Tracker
  • Vengeful
Each pair of points is given a 50% chance to be a single 2 point ability, and a 50% chance to be two 1 point abilities. If there is a single point left, Town will simply be given a 1 point role. The exact probability distribution can be seen on the Open setup page.

Spoiler: Followup Role PMs for Town
Vanilla TownieWelcome!

You are a
Vanilla Townie
.

You have no special abilities but your voice and your vote.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Please confirm by replying with your role.


Town CopWelcome!

You are a
Town Cop
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At night, you may target a player. If your action is successful, you will learn that player's alignment (Innocent for Town and Guilty for Mafia.)

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Please confirm by replying with your role.


Town JailkeeperWelcome!

You are a
Town Jailkeeper
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At night, you may target a player. If your action is successful, any actions your target attempts will fail and any killing actions on your target will fail.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Please confirm by replying with your role.


Town MasonWelcome!

You are a
Town Mason
.

You know X is town and can talk to them here.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Please confirm by replying with your role.


Town VigilanteWelcome!

You are a
Town Vigilante
.

At night, you may target a player. If your action is successful, that player will be killed.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Please confirm by replying with your role.


Town WatcherWelcome!

You are a
Town Watcher
.

At night, you may target a player. If your action is successful, you will learn who, if anyone, visited them that night.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Please confirm by replying with your role.


Town BodyguardWelcome!

You are a
Town Bodyguard
.

At night, you may target a player. If your action is successful, any killing actions on them will kill you instead.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Please confirm by replying with your role.


Town Friendly NeighborWelcome!

You are a
Town Friendly Neighbor
.

At night, you may target a player. If your action is successful, they will learn that you are Town.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Please confirm by replying with your role.


Town Goon CopWelcome!

You are a
Town Goon Cop
.

At night, you may target a player. If your action is successful, you will learn whether or not they are a Mafia Goon.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Please confirm by replying with your role.


Town RolecopWelcome!

You are a
Town Rolecop
.

At night, you may target a player. If your action is successful, you will learn their role (but not their alignment).

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Please confirm by replying with your role.


Town TrackerWelcome!

You are a
Town Tracker
.

At night, you may target a player. If your action is successful, you will learn who, if anyone, they visited that night.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Please confirm by replying with your role.


Town VengefulWelcome!

You are a
Town Vengeful
.

If you are eliminated during the day, you may choose someone to kill before you die.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Please confirm by replying with your role.



Spoiler: Followup Role PMs for Mafia
Mafia TraitorWelcome!

You are a
Mafia Traitor
.

You win when at least 50% of living players are Mafia, or nothing can prevent the same.


Your partners are X and Y, but you cannot talk to them. If you are the last Mafia left alive you will be endgamed.

The game thread is here.

Please confirm by replying with your role.


Mafia GoonWelcome!

You are a
Mafia Goon
.

You win when at least 50% of living players are Mafia, or nothing can prevent the same.


You may talk to your partner(s) here. You also have a factional kill during the night phase, and you must choose which Mafia member performs the kill.

The game thread is here.

Please confirm by replying with your role.


Mafia RoleblockerWelcome!

You are a
Mafia Roleblocker
.

You win when at least 50% of living players are Mafia, or nothing can prevent the same.


At night, you may target a player. If your action is successful, any actions your target attempts will fail.

You may talk to your partner(s) here. You also have a factional kill during the night phase, and you must choose which Mafia member performs the kill.

The game thread is here.

Please confirm by replying with your role.


Mafia Rolecop TrackerWelcome!

You are a
Mafia Rolecop Tracker
.

You win when at least 50% of living players are Mafia, or nothing can prevent the same.


At night, you may target a player. If your action is successful, you will discover their role (but not their alignment) and who, if anyone, they visited that night.

You may talk to your partner(s) here. You also have a factional kill during the night phase, and you must choose which Mafia member performs the kill.

The game thread is here.

Please confirm by replying with your role.


Mafia Ascetic InformedWelcome!

You are a
Mafia Ascetic Informed
.

You win when at least 50% of living players are Mafia, or nothing can prevent the same.


Any non-killing actions that target you will fail. Additionally, you are Informed, and the whole setup of the game has been posted in the Mafia PT as a result.

You may talk to your partner(s) here. You also have a factional kill during the night phase, and you must choose which Mafia member performs the kill.

The game thread is here.

Please confirm by replying with your role.


Mafia Bulletproof GodfatherWelcome!

You are a
Mafia Bulletproof Godfather
.

You win when at least 50% of living players are Mafia, or nothing can prevent the same.


Any killing actions that target you in the night will fail. Additionally, any Cop investigating you will find you as Innocent and any Rolecop investigating you will find you as Vanilla.

You may talk to your partner(s) here. You also have a factional kill during the night phase, and you must choose which Mafia member performs the kill.

The game thread is here.

Please confirm by replying with your role.


Mafia Modified RolestopperWelcome!

You are a
Mafia Modified Rolestopper
.

You win when at least 50% of living players are Mafia, or nothing can prevent the same.


At night, you may target a player. If your action is successful, any non-killing abilities which target that player will fail.

You may talk to your partner(s) here. You also have a factional kill during the night phase, and you must choose which Mafia member performs the kill.

The game thread is here.

Please confirm by replying with your role.



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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Thu Oct 26, 2023 8:52 am

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Role PMs have been sent out. The game will begin when 12/13 players have submitted their roles and at least (expired on 2023-10-28 15:52:22) have passed. If anyone has not picked up their Role PM within (expired on 2023-10-29 15:52:22) they will be replaced.
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Sat Oct 28, 2023 10:18 am

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All Role PMs have now been sent out. The game will begin when at least 11/13 players have been confirmed. Players have (expired on 2023-10-31 05:18:06) to pick up their new Role PMs.
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Sun Oct 29, 2023 8:29 pm

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Replacing KatyKimFanClub and Hero at Heart.
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:15 am

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pisskop replaces KatyKimFanClub.
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 7:36 am

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Votecount 1.0

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to eliminate. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-11-09 14:36:08).


Votecount
Not Voting (13)
- Alisae, Black, Dannflor, davesaz, Doctor Drew, Dunnstral, gob, Hero at Heart, pisskop, Roden, shaddowez, Something_Smart, Titus


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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 7:39 am

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right. open game.
beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 7:42 am

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Id pick ascetic informed and recruit traitor personally
beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 7:50 am

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VOTE: pisskop
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:01 am

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In post 9, pisskop wrote: Id pick ascetic informed and recruit traitor personally
I'd be torn between the Ascetic and the BP Godfather. Either one is only useful depending on what roles town got.

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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:05 am

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I invite everyone to take a look at the way the opening of this game played out from the mod.

The first round of confirmations required
12
people to confirm to move onto the next phase. Presumably, that happened. The mod sent out our initial role pms - 'Town', 'Mafia', or 'Traitor'. Once the mafia were finished deliberating on their powers, the game moved to the next stage of confirmation. This stage required
11
people to confirm. During this confirmation stage, the timer for the first stage ran out, signaling that the
1
person who had not confirmed needed to be replaced. However,
2
people needed to be replaced at this time. This means that between pisskop and Hero at Heart, one of the two slots
initially confirmed
upon seeing their alignment, but upon receiving their updated role, they decided to replace out.

...So what does this mean? Well, maybe they rolled vanilla town and didn't like it. Maybe they rolled mafia traitor and didn't get recruited and didn't like that. Maybe this is all just a coincidence and something happened in between confirmation stages that made them need to replace out.
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:08 am

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VOTE: Dunnstral
I was going to go with random, but I think the confirmation speculation is worth a vote on its own.
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:11 am

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I have been fond of this setup (stack the deck) for a long time now, despite it's flaws. For powers, I would go for either no powers to limit what town gets, which has always been my favored strategy in this setup, or I would grab the Bulletproof Godfather, as I believe that role has the ability to swing the game in mafia's favor on its own.
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:14 am

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VOTE: dunn

Im actually not super stoked about speccing about the timing of the PM deliveries and the replace outs, being said replace out
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:15 am

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And why is that?
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:15 am

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VOTE: Dannflor
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:16 am

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This game got serious quickly but I guess that makes sense considering there's lots of setup spec in this type of game

This is going to be really mech heavy isn't it

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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:16 am

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In post 16, Dunnstral wrote: And why is that?
well for one it implies that Im just a VT
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:17 am

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@black: I never cared too too much for RVS, its better this way
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:18 am

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I'm not sure I see the scumminess in Dunn's entrance. Maybe a doing to much type thing but that's it
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:18 am

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In post 14, Dunnstral wrote: I would go for either no powers to limit what town gets, which has always been my favored strategy in this setup, or I would grab the Bulletproof Godfather, as I believe that role has the ability to swing the game in mafia's favor on its own.
Just the one power? That limits what you can do though. Traitor sucks without recruitment

Actually, can somebody remind me how traitor works normally? Maf are informed they exist, and traitor is told who the maf are?
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Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:20 am

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In post 19, pisskop wrote:
In post 16, Dunnstral wrote: And why is that?
well for one it implies that Im just a VT
Are you claiming VT
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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:21 am

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Im not claiming anything
beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
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