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[Thestatusquo]

If I'm scum here I don't know why I wouldn't just vote ani when enchant said he would insta hammer.

[AnimatedWiz]

Mm, I think I have figured it out.

Shea is either extremely wrong (and not willing to be convinced) or a liar. Neither is someone I would prefer to vote with, because he will only vote me.

I stand with Enchant, for better or for worse.

VOTE: TheStatusQuo.

[AnimatedWiz]

If I'm scum here I don't know why I wouldn't just vote ani when enchant said he would insta hammer.

The same reason I talked about with Enchant—if you vote first and Enchant

doesn’t

hammer, I know Enchant is town and therefore I switch to you. It’s a real risky play to vote first as scum.

[Enchant]

you sure

[AnimatedWiz]

Yeah.

Voting you doesn’t seem like it’ll work to prevent me from getting voted out, so a 50% chance is better than 0%. It’s my best option.

[Enchant]

Okay.

[Enchant]

I promised to not quickhammer eh?

[AnimatedWiz]

I will say, it’ll be incredibly funny if I’m right and Shea is scum for the umpteenth time in a row.

Such low odds for the entire chain.

[Enchant]

Did you just scumclaim.

[AnimatedWiz]

I… really cannot tell if you’re trolling or not. What about that is a scumclaim?

[Thestatusquo]

You'd be dead if you were town and wrong.

[Thestatusquo]

Wait no I'm an idiot LMAO.

[Thestatusquo]

In my mind I had already voted you.

VOTE: ani

[Thestatusquo]

Yeah.

Voting you doesn’t seem like it’ll work to prevent me from getting voted out, so a 50% chance is better than 0%. It’s my best option.

This is part of what made me sure it was ani and not enchant tbh though I'm pretty sure I was going to come down that way anyway.

You seemed convinced it was enchant and then as soon as I came in and expressed that I was leaning toward you your entire worldview switched.

Town you would have tried to convince me I'm wrong. Scum you switched to a different target with almost no provocation at all.

[AnimatedWiz]

Yeah.

Voting you doesn’t seem like it’ll work to prevent me from getting voted out, so a 50% chance is better than 0%. It’s my best option.

This is part of what made me sure it was ani and not enchant tbh though I'm pretty sure I was going to come down that way anyway.

You seemed convinced it was enchant and then as soon as I came in and expressed that I was leaning toward you your entire worldview switched.

Town you would have tried to convince me I'm wrong. Scum you switched to a different target with almost no provocation at all.

I did try to convince you, and I saw it getting nowhere. I know that Enchant is at least willing to consider my arguments, so I’m just banking on that actually working out for me in the end—long shot over no shot.

[AnimatedWiz]

And if I’m wrong, than we’re both fools, I fear—you for not considering my argument, and me for painting myself into such a horrid corner.

But I do think I’m right.

[Thestatusquo]

Yeah.

Voting you doesn’t seem like it’ll work to prevent me from getting voted out, so a 50% chance is better than 0%. It’s my best option.

This is part of what made me sure it was ani and not enchant tbh though I'm pretty sure I was going to come down that way anyway.

You seemed convinced it was enchant and then as soon as I came in and expressed that I was leaning toward you your entire worldview switched.

Town you would have tried to convince me I'm wrong. Scum you switched to a different target with almost no provocation at all.

I did try to convince you, and I saw it getting nowhere. I know that Enchant is at least willing to consider my arguments, so I’m just banking on that actually working out for me in the end—long shot over no shot.

You made like one half hearted argument how you were calling your teammate scum a lot.

[Enchant]

And if I’m wrong, than we’re both fools, I fear—you for not considering my argument, and me for painting myself into such a horrid corner.

But I do think I’m right.

Bruh

[AnimatedWiz]

Would explaining how the kills make no sense if I committed them work? I was still trying to get through to Black, and I was working to elim Roden.

Would explaining how Enchant has worse associations with Python work? Or even how OWER forgot to read you and otherwise tried to distance himself from you work?

Would showing my consistent explanation for my votes and reads and how they have been far more upfront and detailed than both of yours work?

That’s the evidence I have—if that isn’t going to be convincing, I have little left, especially if you’re just going to repeatedly call me scum.

What is your argument for me?

[Thestatusquo]

Would explaining how the kills make no sense if I committed them work? I was still trying to get through to Black, and I was working to elim Roden.

Would explaining how Enchant has worse associations with Python work? Or even how OWER forgot to read you and otherwise tried to distance himself from you work?

Would showing my consistent explanation for my votes and reads and how they have been far more upfront and detailed than both of yours work?

That’s the evidence I have—if that isn’t going to be convincing, I have little left, especially if you’re just going to repeatedly call me scum.

What is your argument for me?

Hard to say because you didn't really try to do any of that, you just switched targets despite the fact that until previously you had been expressing it was enchant and using language like "me and shea might need some time to figure it out"

And now I know you're scum so its hard to care about those arguments now.

I have already explained why I think you're scum here. It was quite honestly more that I thought enchant was definitely town than anything to do with you, which I've explained in detail quite a bit, but the way you reacted to my entrance to the thread definitely sealed it for me.

[AnimatedWiz]

One last note: Shea’s been consistently off the eliminating wagons since D1 until OWER—I may have been wrong about some of the wagons, but Shea has barely cast any votes at all.

I really do think Shea has been trying to slip under the radar and not make waves—to avoid any associations at all and therefore not have anything tying him to the flipped scum at ELO.

If Enchant and OWER’s crossvote is town-indicative, and my repeated crossvotes with OWER are also town-indicative, one person is left without that. Shea.

[Thestatusquo]

One last note: Shea’s been consistently off the eliminating wagons since D1 until OWER—I may have been wrong about some of the wagons, but Shea has barely cast any votes at all.

I really do think Shea has been trying to slip under the radar and not make waves—to avoid any associations at all and therefore not have anything tying him to the flipped scum at ELO.

If Enchant and OWER’s crossvote is town-indicative, and my repeated crossvotes with OWER are also town-indicative, one person is left without that. Shea.

This is a disingenuous argument. You've read my scum games and you know that's not how I play as scum. Enchant has played with scum me too and knows that I'm not shy about voting or being on wagons as scum.

[AnimatedWiz]

And now I know you're scum so it’s hard to care about those arguments now.

Then if that’s the case, it’s down to Enchant.

Enchant, do you have any questions for either of us?

[Thestatusquo]

The last statement is laughable. Cross voting each other at end game when a quicklim wins the game is not the same as voting each other at other random times throughout the game. Scum don't do the first much (I've never personally seen it) and they do the latter frequently

Is your claim seriously that scum don't vote each other? Have you heard of bussing?

[Enchant]

What motivation has OWEN to suicide on me previous day and for Mafia!Shea to vote OWEN first?
What motivation has OWEN to suicide on me previous day and for mafia!Animated to hammer OWEN?