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[JacksonVirgo]

Also could anybody inform me of any claims, clears, general mech info that would be great

[Titus]

Short version, no clears. Drew's voted you.

[JacksonVirgo]

Alright so general gamestate, I'm viewing each perspective for if they are Town. I'm seeing Titus thinks it's both Drew and myself but is withholding their vote for now
Chell/Drew are cross-voting, obviously contains at least one wolf.
I need to know Drew's stance on my slot before I repped in and I need to know Chell's view on the wolf that isn't who they're cross-voting.

Titus I also need to know why you haven't voted if you're leaning on a Drew/me solve

[JacksonVirgo]

Short version, no clears. Drew's voted you.

No clears is the fun type of Limlo, and he isn't voting me?

[JacksonVirgo]

Wait there's someone I'm missing

[JacksonVirgo]

Ah snivy, I need to know their stance on the gamestate too

[JacksonVirgo]

Chell what's your current reads on Titus and Snivy independently, and what were they prior to the vote-crossing and I guess end of day 4 as well

[JacksonVirgo]

I'm hoping that if they say something contradictory, someone will call it out so I'm holding some trust in what you say. I will be trying to skim-read the game to verify myself but 172 pages is 172 pages

[JacksonVirgo]

Contradictory in terms of what they say vs what they actually were acting like in those moments to be more precise

[JacksonVirgo]

eh well

ill leave it for now and if either drew unvotes I'm not quickhammered by tomorrow then ill start discussing this again

Snivy not cross-voting Drew here is something to note, not sure what to make of it exactly but looking on either side

If they're wolf, and had the thought that Drew was going to keep their vote there they would have voted Drew outright and crossed it.
If they're wolf with drew, this would have probably been spoken about and would not have been retracted immediately unless of course WIFOM
If they're Town like I believe this makes them, it's just pure mindset and not one that lines up with what I would deem a wolfy mindset.

Drew immediately jumping ship is also something to note. I am gonna sit on that one for a bit though before saying anything (if I even ever do)

[JacksonVirgo]

Wait drew pivoted off the cross-voting to go on snivy and then back?

[JacksonVirgo]

Whenever somebody pops in, quote a post of mine so I get the notif.

[JacksonVirgo]

but it's kind of awkward if they both just vote me in tandem

What do you mean by awkward here? Awkward in the sense of their image, awkward as to how it would feel for you isolated from either of them?

[JacksonVirgo]

JacksonVirgo replaces gob.

Welcome to the hellfire.

Currently Titus thinks we are scum together, but just play it cool until it blows over.

Don't worry, I am of the abyss I will be fine. I would like to tap your brain more though (this goes for everyone)

[JacksonVirgo]

I hope there's no post restriction or anything I didn't check and here I am spamming

[JacksonVirgo]

I have read a bit more and I have my initial thoughts on the gamestate, it's been bouncing back and forward. I am sitting on my hands until I get my answers I have asked for

[Chell]

hi im here

extremely busy with work today but can answer basic questions

[Chell]

but it's kind of awkward if they both just vote me in tandem

What do you mean by awkward here? Awkward in the sense of their image, awkward as to how it would feel for you isolated from either of them?

in the sense of optics

i think in a 5p elo where scum doesn't know if it's gonna go to 3p or not

it's kind of unintuitive for the two of them to obviously be acting/voting together

like that's pretty much putting all the chips on the table and saying that either they're gonna win the 5p or not at all

[Chell]

Chell what's your current reads on Titus and Snivy independently, and what were they prior to the vote-crossing and I guess end of day 4 as well

titus i currently town read

she was actually a pocket scum read earlier and i thought she was the one most playing for an end game position, but after rereading i think that's not really as true as i thought of earlier days

snivy i think is the most likely partner for drew just based on the way they've danced around scum reading each other all game. I also don't really have any good reasons to town read snivy, although I kind of always have trouble finding reasons to town read snivy

[Chell]

i guess there's a world where it's titus/drew instead of snivy/drew

[Doctor Drew]

JacksonVirgo replaces gob.

Welcome to the hellfire.

Currently Titus thinks we are scum together, but just play it cool until it blows over.

Don't worry, I am of the abyss I will be fine. I would like to tap your brain more though (this goes for everyone)

I think it is clear that Chell is scum(from my perspective, since as pointed out if we were both town then the two scum would have quick hammered one of us by now).

I think Snivy is the more likely other scum.

I don't think it is your slot, Jackson, or Titus.....but I am not super confident in those reads.

[camelCasedSnivy]

Whenever somebody pops in, quote a post of mine so I get the notif.

hi

this ELO is literally a minefield.

drew i thought this was just your gut feeling? like come on man

also chell also thinking that I am partners with drew because of drew's push on me??

can yall please make sense

[camelCasedSnivy]

im probably going to vote doctor drew unless titus or jv are willing to give me insight

[Doctor Drew]

Whenever somebody pops in, quote a post of mine so I get the notif.

hi

this ELO is literally a minefield.

drew i thought this was just your gut feeling? like come on man

also chell also thinking that I am partners with drew because of drew's push on me??

can yall please make sense

One, I agree it is dumb to think we are buddies.....for vastly different reasons that you are pushing.

Two, you are awfully defensive of my 'gut read' on you

[Doctor Drew]

Vote me Snivy, and if you can convince town to vote me as well I will be the first to say GG to you.