Mini Normal 2317 - Postgame

[biancospino]

5.07 (UNCHANGED)

Votecount 5.07

Doctor Drew (E-2): Chell
Chell (E-2): Doctor Drew

Not Voting (3): camelCasedSnivy, JacksonVirgo, Titus

With 5 players alive, it takes 3 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2023-12-24 17:31:29).

Mod Notes: The combined mod ISO is here.

[Doctor Drew]

Chell what's your current reads on Titus and Snivy independently, and what were they prior to the vote-crossing and I guess end of day 4 as well

titus i currently town read

she was actually a pocket scum read earlier and i thought she was the one most playing for an end game position, but after rereading i think that's not really as true as i thought of earlier days

snivy i think is the most likely partner for drew just based on the way they've danced around scum reading each other all game. I also don't really have any good reasons to town read snivy, although I kind of always have trouble finding reasons to town read snivy

It's more accurate to say Chell and I think Drew is scum but disagree on the third. I'd like that sorted.

Well if you vote me you wouldn't have to worry about figuring out who the third scum is, save you that hassle lol

[Doctor Drew]

Snivy cross voting me after I voted him would, especially after I left Chell to vote him, would be too risky not knowing what gob and Titus are thinking.

Sure, but under the impression that Snivy is a wolf that thinks ur gonna stick with all the "fuck it, after I go flip Snivy" they'd be kinda foolish *not* to vote you back

Scum would be too careful to put me at E-1 there, hell I had a chance to hammer for the scum win one time and I didn't because I wasn't sure of all the details of night actions(not an exact comparison, but best to hold off until you know you can win the game with your vote as scum is my point).

Snivy(or whoever is the last scum), needs to be the last vote on me.

Also, I did a brief iso of gob because of some paranoia growing of some of your wording Jackson lol.......I feel pretty good you are no aligned with Chell if I am wrong about Snivy.

Also who was it that you could have hammered for the win

It was a previous game if I wasn't clear

I see, what about my q about the paranoia

The classic repp into a scum slot and town it up.

I don't believe that to be the case, like I said I do lean town on gob, but you just seem so buttoned up and serious it threw me off a bit lol.

[JacksonVirgo]

I wish Drew like answered my question because it's harder to speak about my reads without giving away what I am exactly looking for but given Drew's position here so I'm running on a pretty shallow read but with Chell voting him, Snivy stating they're voting Drew unless the game shakes up and you said you believed the solve was Drew/Gob his wiggle room is pretty low if he does wish to survive today and hasn't given up, I replace in with (what I believe to be) a pretty obvious town-read on him and yet he decides to treat me with the whole paranoia line, he did spin onto a "I don't think ur with Chell" but that treatment tells me a few things possibly and I'm mostly writing this down to settle it in my own thoughts rather than to any of you but if you do have thoughts please tell me. I may be under a faulty assumption but I am thinking that if he was scum in that position he would be trying to pocket me outright but he's not how I expected him to be trying to do, so I feel that's townie. His vote swapping when already cross-voting in Limlo is another townie thing from him.

@Titus

, you say it's weird but you don't buy it. What is it you're not buying? Why aren't you buying it?

[JacksonVirgo]

Oh he literaly answered me LOL, thanks

[JacksonVirgo]

Great timing with that one

[JacksonVirgo]

I don't believe that to be the case, like I said I do lean town on gob, but you just seem so buttoned up and serious it threw me off a bit lol.

Ah yeah, taking a different approach than I usually do because repping into Limlo is scary scary

[JacksonVirgo]

I'm questioning whether my assumption as to how Drew would play in a general sense is reliable at all. If he was scum wanting to suicide here to position their partner higher it could justify that

[JacksonVirgo]

Not sure I believe that to be the case even when saying that

[JacksonVirgo]

Drew/Chell, thoughts on Titus?

[JacksonVirgo]

Wait, Drew. You said you gave gob a brief ISO dive when the reason you were taking a second look was because of how I was acting, why? Why not comment on what I was saying more?

[Alianna]

Moderator Announcement

Any deadline that is in place, and all prod timers, will be frozen on December 24 and 25 MST.

[Doctor Drew]

Wait, Drew. You said you gave gob a brief ISO dive when the reason you were taking a second look was because of how I was acting, why? Why not comment on what I was saying more?

It was what you were saying that wanted me to go back and look if gob was a viable partner for Chell. Again, the paranoia growing from your entrance

Even on a cursory skim through he did not look like a buddy to Chell

[Titus]

Yeah, I was really hoping scum moved first but that's not going to happen. I want to stretch into next week because IRL this week but I can't risk flubbing the deadline.

VOTE: Drew

[JacksonVirgo]

I'm genuinely believing Drew to be Town here so I'm going to be voting Chell. If Titus' vote isn't game over here then I know my solve, which is what my solve was regardless but that's mostly by PoE

[JacksonVirgo]

This was also me acknowledging I could have hammered but haven't

[JacksonVirgo]

VOTE: Chell

I actually wanna do this. If this is game over because of this vote, apologies but if this happens and nobody is hammered then that's certainly quite something. Forces this elim to be full the solving elim. I feel safe in doing this but I am also still sorry if this makes us lose OwO.

Having like no context and placing a dangerous vote is hilarious

[camelCasedSnivy]

VOTE: Drew

[JacksonVirgo]

Gross, I guess I gotta hope I was wrong

[JacksonVirgo]

Wait, unless Titus bussed I have to be right as I'm a town not voting them

[Titus]

Sorry if I messed it up.

[Titus]

If not, Merry Christmas.

[JacksonVirgo]

Ah so it was Snivy/Chell?. Sadge

[Alianna]

5.FINAL

Votecount 5.FINAL

Doctor Drew (EXECUTED): Chell, Titus, camelCasedSnivy
Chell (2): Doctor Drew, JacksonVirgo

With 5 players alive, it took 3 votes to secure an execution.

[Alianna]

Doctor Drew has been executed. He was a

Town Inspector

.

Spoiler: Role PM

Doctor Drew

Welcome, Doctor Drew, to Mini Normal 2317!

You are a

Town Inspector

.

Abilities:

Inspector - Each night, you may target another player. Assuming no interference with your action, you will learn if anyone other than you targeted your target that night. You will not learn who they were targeted by or what they were targeted with.

Win Condition:

You win if all players not aligned with the town are dead and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Please confirm by replying with the name of your role.

At this point in the game, nothing can prevent the mafia from wiping out the town, meaning the game ends in a mafia victory. Titus,

Vanilla Townie

, and JacksonVirgo,

Vanilla Townie

, are endgamed.

Spoiler: Role PMs

Titus

Welcome, Titus, to Mini Normal 2317!

You are a

Vanilla Townie

.

Abilities:

You have no special abilities.

Win Condition:

You win if all players not aligned with the town are dead and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Please confirm by replying with the name of your role.

JacksonVirgo

Welcome, JacksonVirgo, to Mini Normal 2317!

You are a

Vanilla Townie

.

Abilities:

You have no special abilities.

Win Condition:

You win if all players not aligned with the town are dead and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Please confirm by replying with the name of your role.

Chell,

Mafia Informed Odd-Night Motion Detector

, and camelCasedSnivy,

Mafia Even-Night Follower

, survive and win.

Spoiler: Role PMs

Chell

Welcome, Chell, to Mini Normal 2317!

You are a

Mafia Informed Odd-Night Motion Detector

. Your partners are Organized Khaos and Random Nurse.

Abilities:

Informed - You are informed that a protective role exists. This information will be redacted upon your flip.
Odd-Night Motion Detector - Each odd-numbered night, you may target another player. Assuming no interference with your action, you you will learn whether or not any actions were performed by or on that player. You will not learn what those actions were or who else was involved.
Factional Communication - You may talk to your partners at any time here.
Factional Kill - Each night, your faction may send one of its members to target another player. Assuming no interference with this action, the target will die. You have access to the factional kill.

Win Condition:

You win if all players not aligned with the mafia are dead and at least one mafia-aligned player is alive, or if nothing can prevent this from occurring.

Please confirm by replying with the name of your role.

camelCasedSnivy

Welcome, camelCasedSnivy, to Mini Normal 2317!

You are a

Mafia Even-Night Follower

. Your partners are Chell and Organized Khaos.

Abilities:

Even-Night Follower - Each even-numbered night, you may target another player. Assuming no interference with your action, you will learn what type of action your target performed that night, if any.
Factional Communication - You may talk to your partners at any time here.
Factional Kill - Each night, your faction may send one of its members to target another player. Assuming no interference with this action, the target will die. You have access to the factional kill.

Win Condition:

You win if all players not aligned with the mafia are dead and at least one mafia-aligned player is alive, or if nothing can prevent this from occurring.

Please confirm by replying with the name of your role.

Congratulations to the mafia team of Chell, Afrayed Knott, and camelCasedSnivy for winning Mini Normal 2317!