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[DragonEater70]

Not hammering

[DragonEater70]

I'm kinda thinking the team might be geraint/Pav

I know it's kinda wild and I have zero reasoning for it but that's what my gut's been telling me ever since I started rereading yesterday

[DragonEater70]

It coud also be Hu Tao/geraint tbh

[Flavor Leaf]

I feel it’s for sure one of Hu Tao/Pav and one of Geraint/Purple.

Geraint or Purple don’t have a strong win condition if Pav is scum here is something that makes me lean Hu Tao, but i see why they might need to roll the dice and bus still.

[geraintm]

Not hammering

This is good
Do you want to swap?

[Flavor Leaf]

Im siding with the dead player side against Hu.

If Hu is scum, they wanted dragon here for that, and that possibility is here.

I am not confident in Hu, though. I see Pav case, but knowing there is scum on Pav right now makes it difficult.

[Flavor Leaf]

It coud also be Hu Tao/geraint tbh

Hu Tao was sitting on Geraint the entire beginning of Day 4 too.

HPE had some weird dynamic with Geraint where it looked like distancing too hard.

So it probably is Geraint based on HPE. I think this endgame has exposed Geraint a lot right now.

[Flavor Leaf]

Idk if he’s going for a win or going for bus credit, though.

[geraintm]

Idk if he’s going for a win or going for bus credit, though.

Scum me would have voted days ago

[Flavor Leaf]

If you jail Hu Tao, and there’s no kill, the easy answer is “Hu Tao was the night kill!” Which i don’t like, but it’s a solid defense that she wouldn’t have to explain further

[Flavor Leaf]

Idk if he’s going for a win or going for bus credit, though.

Scum me would have voted days ago

Why?

[geraintm]

Idk if he’s going for a win or going for bus credit, though.

Scum me would have voted days ago

Why?

Because I get impatient

[Flavor Leaf]

Thing is Dragon, I really don’t think Pav kills me two nights in a row.

Geraint would, and I think Hu Tao has a much better time gamestate wise doing so than Pav.

Same with Random.

The Random Nurse kill is very weird if Pav is scum, especially over a Purple or Geraint who was leaning his way, not RN who would have voted with Pav probs.

[Flavor Leaf]

I do see merit in Hu Tao killing Thomith Night 1 if Hu Tao is scum against Thomith + seeing possible cop crumb.

[geraintm]

Thing is Dragon, I really don’t think Pav kills me two nights in a row.

Geraint would, and I think Hu Tao has a much better time gamestate wise doing so than Pav.

Same with Random.

The Random Nurse kill is very weird if Pav is scum, especially over a Purple or Geraint who was leaning his way, not RN who would have voted with Pav probs.

I would leave you alone because I think you would see me as town.

[Flavor Leaf]

You think I would see you as town as scum?

[geraintm]

You think I would see you as town as scum?

I guess so. But you weren't on my tail so I wouldn't have shot you

[Flavor Leaf]

You think I would see you as town as scum?

I guess so. But you weren't on my tail so I wouldn't have shot you

I called out HPE as pushing a partner super hard on Day 3, so idk if that’s 100% true, albeit I wasn’t going after you like that.

That being said, you weren’t really here too much.

What are your thoughts on Hu Tao early Day 4 sitting voting you?

[DragonEater70]

Im siding with the dead player side against Hu.

If Hu is scum, they wanted dragon here for that, and that possibility is here.

I am not confident in Hu, though. I see Pav case, but knowing there is scum on Pav right now makes it difficult.

It does

[DragonEater70]

Idk if he’s going for a win or going for bus credit, though.

Scum me would have voted days ago

Why?

Because I get impatient

Can you not change that in order to win?

[DragonEater70]

Thing is Dragon, I really don’t think Pav kills me two nights in a row.

Geraint would, and I think Hu Tao has a much better time gamestate wise doing so than Pav.

Same with Random.

The Random Nurse kill is very weird if Pav is scum, especially over a Purple or Geraint who was leaning his way, not RN who would have voted with Pav probs.

Can you explain why Pav wouldn't but geraint would? This is not entirely something I understand.

I do think though Purple would 100% do it.

[Flavor Leaf]

What is Pav’s wincon if I weren’t alive protecting him?

To say “but why would I kill FL?!”

I think that’s a bad defense, and is much worse than keeping me alive.


Geraint actively knows I can read them, and I feel like I’ve been pretty good at reading a town Geraint past year.

I don’t remember another game I’ve even had with Pavowski.

[DragonEater70]

Let me explain my thought process on Pav, because I sorta intentionally didn't explain it earlier as I'd wanted to see reactions to my vote on him.

Day 1 he was being voted/shaded for some eary game weirdness which I was willing to ignore as I could see coming from town. Then he made more posts which came across as towny.

However today with Abnegation flipping green and me re-evaluating my scumread on HPE (I think HPE is nulltown right now FWIW), I realized I'd been most likely townreading scum. And while his posts *sound* towny, they are definitely NOT impossible to fake, which makes him the likeliest person to be the scum I'd been townreading. He *sounds* like he's trying to solve the game, but when I actually read his posts I cannot an actual thought process about people's alignments to which I could say "yeah, this person actually had this thought and is actually trying to figure things out".

VOTE: Pavowski
Think this post hit the nail on the head for me especially with how poor Pav's D2 posting has been.

I'm tryna discern if this is distancing or not

Because I'm like 100% sure I have seen scum react this way both to votes on their partners and to votes on town.

Honestly putting this here for now gera's pretty fucking stinky this game VOTE: geraintm

Yeah this reads weird.

Lemme check myself before taking someone this one is wary of at face value

Okay checks out thank you :salute:
VOTE: Laplacian

Looks like you're just voting them since you're getting heat too.

VOTE: HPE

this post is actually key, because it shows you 100% had heat building on you, and other players felt that too.

ht made this post when this one had. one (1) vote on it. You DIRELY need to get real here.

Kinda feel this is maybe not aligned with HT but I could absolutely see it as aligned. UGH.

You keep presenting CW as a do nothing slot, but CW's done a hell of a lot tbh, and i think, and Hu Tao agreed, that CW has given more analysis than you have, so idk why you keep grouping CW in there.

because cw killed my grandma okay

I just quoted this post because it's hilarious.

Can we hammer hpe already? Its just flailing.

oh fuck you

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm this could definitely go either way right

[DragonEater70]

What is Pav’s wincon if I weren’t alive protecting him?

To say “but why would I kill FL?!”

I think that’s a bad defense, and is much worse than keeping me alive.


Geraint actively knows I can read them, and I feel like I’ve been pretty good at reading a town Geraint past year.

I don’t remember another game I’ve even had with Pavowski.

I mean, you do have a point in that

But why weren't you killed last night though

[Hu Tao]

Can we just hammer pav? They are scum.