Mini Normal 2326 | Everything has exploded !

[Naerys]

that moment when gob cried "hu tao help me" lol

[DarthPunk]

also i would like to announce you degenerates broke the record for the longest mini on site !

I thought I might hit 1000 posts.

Although having 850 ish posts as mafia is pretty good, im really tired though.

[Luca Blight]

I've come back to the site after a three year break and in both games lost in melo as town. Probably need another long break after this.

[Hu Tao]

that moment when gob cried "hu tao help me" lol

He was fr

[gob]

that moment when gob cried "hu tao help me" lol

LOL and Hu Tao did come in with the carry

Props to DarthPunk too.

Also two mormons just walked pst me irl. Theyre scary

[Hu Tao]

I've come back to the site after a three year break and in both games lost in melo as town. Probably need another long break after this.

Tbf last game you were very towny and did well, no one scumread you. This one you were on the right track about things too but it's hard to say since this game I'm seeing it from a scum perspective. I think keep playing

[Vivax]

Any tells that mafia are aware of that actually made them mafia would be helpful for the learning process.

The D1 HT thing DP also called out maybe ?
DP not killing scum for two days and generally avoiding too strong leadership ?
Anything else ?

[DarthPunk]

Any tells that mafia are aware of that actually made them mafia would be helpful for the learning process.

The D1 HT thing DP also called out maybe ?

DP not killing scum for two days and generally avoiding too strong leadership ?
Anything else ?

HT thing 1000% in my opinion was a slip.

Not sure how to analyse my own tells or whatever, I think I play town and scum almost the same? Probably not trying harder to save oats and yeet gob who I scum read all game.

[Hu Tao]

I would 100% make that post as town, so I was confused why people thought it was a slip

[DarthPunk]

I would 100% make that post as town, so I was confused why people thought it was a slip

ok maybe I am wrong about it then.

[Hu Tao]

I probably would vote first as town in that situation at the end like I did last game. Not wait for vivax to vote.

[SuperfluousNinja]

Im still figuring that out, but as you have gone to some length to throw shit around this game, its hard to

entangle.

Was this a scum slip? lol

[DarthPunk]

Im still figuring that out, but as you have gone to some length to throw shit around this game, its hard to

entangle.

Was this a scum slip? lol

Probably not.

I am sorry if I caused you any harm this game ninja.

[SuperfluousNinja]

Oh it's 100% on me, don't worry lol.

[gob]

We had plenty of tells. The issue was people posted way too much bullshit going down made-up rabbit holes.

Obvious teams become impossible teams when you overthink things. And overthinking = thinking anything other than your first surface level thought.


Anyway my big tell as mafia early on is inconsistency in reads i think. Im quicker to drop reads/pushes when im scum.

Later on in the game its lack of caring about the gamestate

[Oatsmaster]

Gg!

[Hu Tao]

Oh it's 100% on me, don't worry lol.

I hope you play more in the future. It was fun playing with you

[SuperfluousNinja]

Oh it's 100% on me, don't worry lol.

I hope you play more in the future. It was fun playing with you

I'm done, but thank you.

[Grackaroni]

I've come back to the site after a three year break and in both games lost in melo as town. Probably need another long break after this.

I lost my last game in melo and got yeeted pre-melo this game.

Solid improvement!

[DarthPunk]

I've come back to the site after a three year break and in both games lost in melo as town. Probably need another long break after this.

I lost my last game in melo and got yeeted pre-melo this game.

Solid improvement!

I win endgames

[DarthPunk]

[Grackaroni]

LOL

Even higher than Chezinu playing as confirmed town.

[DarthPunk]

LOL

Even higher than Chezinu playing as confirmed town.

I assume there is a scum game in there otherwise he would be at 100%

[SuperfluousNinja]

In retrospect, I think Darth's scummiest tell was when I made what I feel like was a pretty rock-solid case to at least SUSPECT Darth of guilt and walked him through my case to the point where he finally arrived at a "yes, that's a good point" sort of statement, and conversationally, it felt like he had capitulated. I fully expected him to abandon his stance on Vivax at that point, but after that conversation ended and things picked up in a different direction, it was as if the conversation never happened, and he was right back to "nah, Vivax just isn't scum". Something felt very off in his defense of Vivax in general, but him basically losing the defense but still carrying on with it anyway should have been a sign to me that he was full of shit, armed with some knowledge that the rest of us lacked. And at that point in the game, there was no reason to think Darth had some power role that cleared Vivax, since we had already most likely lost all of our power roles by then.

Also, part of the reason I suspected Oats so heavily was because of his angle that the only reason Luca could be frustrated for being suspected was that he was scum. I didn't want to out Luca and point out another obvious reason why a person might get frustrated for being suspected: they could be power town and disproportionately useful to the town. The fact that Oats wasn't considering this at all had me pretty convinced that he was guilty. But for sure the rest of the rationale was how incredibly unhelpful he was being and his extreme reluctance to be a team player, being largely combative and just adding to the chaos, which I figured he'd just play off as "oh that's just my personality" if anyone really pushed him on that, but I still feel like town REALLY ought to know better. If all you ever do is just play heavy offense against everyone, you should never be surprised to be scumread for that. It was incredibly unhelpful to town for a townie to play like that and get himself yeeted; I still felt like it was an unfortunate but necessary yeet after I saw the flip.

[SuperfluousNinja]

In retrospect, I think Darth's scummiest tell was when I made what I feel like was a pretty rock-solid case to at least SUSPECT

VIVAX

of guilt

Fixed. I named the wrong fella