Large Normal 247 - Day 4

[NotAScum]

did you claim already NAS?

Nope.

[Random Nurse]

did you claim already NAS?

Nope.

Am I correct in assuming you'll hold off until L-1?

[Random Nurse]

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Willow why DID you claim already?

[Naerys]

Trust me snow, scum me is more focused and less inclined to be lazy and moody

[Naerys]

Nobody interested in yeeting Titus? Shame

[Thomith]

To me it looks like NAS is a deliberate mis-lim wagon potentiated by Scum.

However we're also running out of time.

NAS is not the optimal lim in my opinion right now but if it means achieving a lim I will yeet him.

Why do you think this?

[Random Nurse]

To me it looks like NAS is a deliberate mis-lim wagon potentiated by Scum.

However we're also running out of time.

NAS is not the optimal lim in my opinion right now but if it means achieving a lim I will yeet him.

Why do you think this?

In my opinion, when it comes to general gameplay, when there's a sudden shift of like 3+ votes onto someone else with little resistance it makes me think there's Scumfuckery afoot.

[Thomith]

To me it looks like NAS is a deliberate mis-lim wagon potentiated by Scum.

However we're also running out of time.

NAS is not the optimal lim in my opinion right now but if it means achieving a lim I will yeet him.

Why do you think this?

In my opinion, when it comes to general gameplay, when there's a sudden shift of like 3+ votes onto someone else with little resistance it makes me think there's Scumfuckery afoot.

But the wagon stalled after 4 votes with people actively resisting the wagon?

Who do you think we should vote for instead, believing that NAS is a mislim?

[Random Nurse]

To me it looks like NAS is a deliberate mis-lim wagon potentiated by Scum.

However we're also running out of time.

NAS is not the optimal lim in my opinion right now but if it means achieving a lim I will yeet him.

Why do you think this?

In my opinion, when it comes to general gameplay, when there's a sudden shift of like 3+ votes onto someone else with little resistance it makes me think there's Scumfuckery afoot.

But the wagon stalled after 4 votes with people actively resisting the wagon?

Who do you think we should vote for instead, believing that NAS is a mislim?

Well, it's also night still.

Who's actively resisting?

As for who to launch I don't know because I haven't been around recently due to getting mangled by IRL issues.

[Thomith]

To me it looks like NAS is a deliberate mis-lim wagon potentiated by Scum.

However we're also running out of time.

NAS is not the optimal lim in my opinion right now but if it means achieving a lim I will yeet him.

Why do you think this?

In my opinion, when it comes to general gameplay, when there's a sudden shift of like 3+ votes onto someone else with little resistance it makes me think there's Scumfuckery afoot.

But the wagon stalled after 4 votes with people actively resisting the wagon?

Who do you think we should vote for instead, believing that NAS is a mislim?

Well, it's also night still.

Who's actively resisting?

As for who to launch I don't know because I haven't been around recently due to getting mangled by IRL issues.

You and Hu Tao are actively resisting.
Multiple people (Gypyx/Snow/Willow/Oblivion) Have posted since and also did not join the wagon, which while it isn't active resistance, I feel as if the wagon was "facing little resistance as it is a mislim", then one of those people likely jump on the wagon, at least imo.

[Random Nurse]

To me it looks like NAS is a deliberate mis-lim wagon potentiated by Scum.

However we're also running out of time.

NAS is not the optimal lim in my opinion right now but if it means achieving a lim I will yeet him.

Why do you think this?

In my opinion, when it comes to general gameplay, when there's a sudden shift of like 3+ votes onto someone else with little resistance it makes me think there's Scumfuckery afoot.

But the wagon stalled after 4 votes with people actively resisting the wagon?

Who do you think we should vote for instead, believing that NAS is a mislim?

Well, it's also night still.

Who's actively resisting?

As for who to launch I don't know because I haven't been around recently due to getting mangled by IRL issues.

You and Hu Tao are actively resisting.
Multiple people (Gypyx/Snow/Willow/Oblivion) Have posted since and also did not join the wagon, which while it isn't active resistance, I feel as if the wagon was "facing little resistance as it is a mislim", then one of those people likely jump on the wagon, at least imo.

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Now why would you think trying to manipulate my words like this would help you?

I'm not actively resisting I'm saying a sudden shift of 3 votes to NAS seems suspicious to me, and me pointing that out doesn't mean I'm actively resisting. In fact if I was actively resisting you WOULD KNOW IT. If you're Town be aware of what you are saying to me, especially if you're Scum because I detect WAY MORE than I let on.

Also, indifference is not resistance of any kind.

[geraintm]

2 days remaining. I feel a deadline scramble coming up.

I'm a Vanilla Townie.

any suggestions where the wagon should go instead?

Where do

you

think it should go?

No strong opinion, I was just interested who they thought because they clearly thought saving a Vanilla townie was important enough tonsavrifice someone else.

And just claiming VT day 1 in these circumstances doesn't necessarily mean they aren't a good option still.

[Thomith]

To me it looks like NAS is a deliberate mis-lim wagon potentiated by Scum.

However we're also running out of time.

NAS is not the optimal lim in my opinion right now but if it means achieving a lim I will yeet him.

To be fair, I misread the bolded (or rather, saw the first part when skim reading and moved on, not reading the part of you saying you will compromise on it).
I don't see indifference from the four I mentioned as "not resistance", as they are scumreading other people, which in my opinion, is still (more passive) resistance of the NAS wagon.

[Random Nurse]

With a little over a day left would it be better to just launch the claimed VT Willow?

[Random Nurse]

To me it looks like NAS is a deliberate mis-lim wagon potentiated by Scum.

However we're also running out of time.

NAS is not the optimal lim in my opinion right now but if it means achieving a lim I will yeet him.

To be fair, I misread the bolded (or rather, saw the first part when skim reading and moved on, not reading the part of you saying you will compromise on it).
I don't see indifference from the four I mentioned as "not resistance", as they are scumreading other people, which in my opinion, is still (more passive) resistance of the NAS wagon.

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If you're Scum be extremely careful how you approach next time.

[Thomith]

With a little over a day left would it be better to just launch the claimed VT Willow?

Maybe. I'm considering it at least.

[Random Nurse]

With a little over a day left would it be better to just launch the claimed VT Willow?

Maybe. I'm considering it at least.

...why exactly are you voting NAS over Willow currently?

[Thomith]

To me it looks like NAS is a deliberate mis-lim wagon potentiated by Scum.

However we're also running out of time.

NAS is not the optimal lim in my opinion right now but if it means achieving a lim I will yeet him.

To be fair, I misread the bolded (or rather, saw the first part when skim reading and moved on, not reading the part of you saying you will compromise on it).
I don't see indifference from the four I mentioned as "not resistance", as they are scumreading other people, which in my opinion, is still (more passive) resistance of the NAS wagon.

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If you're Scum be extremely careful how you approach next time.

I'm not. I just misread what you said before/misremembered it.

[Random Nurse]

Nobody interested in yeeting Titus? Shame

Why Titus currently?

[Random Nurse]

To me it looks like NAS is a deliberate mis-lim wagon potentiated by Scum.

However we're also running out of time.

NAS is not the optimal lim in my opinion right now but if it means achieving a lim I will yeet him.

To be fair, I misread the bolded (or rather, saw the first part when skim reading and moved on, not reading the part of you saying you will compromise on it).
I don't see indifference from the four I mentioned as "not resistance", as they are scumreading other people, which in my opinion, is still (more passive) resistance of the NAS wagon.

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If you're Scum be extremely careful how you approach next time.

I'm not. I just misread what you said before/misremembered it.

...yeah.

[Thomith]

With a little over a day left would it be better to just launch the claimed VT Willow?

Maybe. I'm considering it at least.

...why exactly are you voting NAS over Willow currently?

I am voting for NAS because I believe they are more likely to be scum over Willow, especially recently because I feel like claiming VT randomly does not help scum!willow at all.

I would swap to willow purely to stop a potential PR having to out themselves if the day shifts a different way - if willow flips VT, I feel we get information for Day 2, without scum getting much information on potential PR's, I'm just not convinced that Willow flips scum any more.

[Random Nurse]

With a little over a day left would it be better to just launch the claimed VT Willow?

Maybe. I'm considering it at least.

...why exactly are you voting NAS over Willow currently?

I am voting for NAS because I believe they are more likely to be scum over Willow, especially recently because I feel like claiming VT randomly does not help scum!willow at all.

I would swap to willow purely to stop a potential PR having to out themselves if the day shifts a different way - if willow flips VT, I feel we get information for Day 2, without scum getting much information on potential PR's, I'm just not convinced that Willow flips scum any more.

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So you're voting NAS not because of what NAS did but because of what Willow did? Did NAS do anything Scummy to be worthy of a launch?

If there was a PR claim wouldn't you shift to NAS instead of Willow based on what you said earlier? What makes that make you choose Willow over NAS? Did you mean ti say if NAS PR-claimed you'd choose Willow instead?

[Thomith]

Why the sudden 3-vote shift for NAS?

People wanted to vote NAS but didn't think anyone else was on board, when it was brought up and became clear there were people that were on board, we voted.

Why the sudden 3-vote shift for NAS?

People wanted to vote NAS but didn't think anyone else was on board, when it was brought up and became clear there were people that were on board, we voted.

OK but WHY did you vote?

Just because others did?

VOTE: Thomith

Maybe you should read and see I suggested it first?

I'm tired and grouchy so sorry for snapping here.
Nobody mentioned NAS really before other than Kay in passing, but when I thought about it yesterday, I've been seeing no real attempt to solve in his posting, and he was largely under the radar. I made a comment about being open to wagoning him because of this to gauge interest, to see of there was any, and when it became clear there was, I voted.

We getting towards EOD so swapping to a new wagon when it likely won't lead anywhere likely isn't helpful, so I wouldn't have voted if nobody really was feeling it.

Actually I do also remember someone (I think Gera? Might have been dave) say NAS did this before as scum, which added to this a little bit too.

[Thomith]

The above is where I explain why I voted NAS, and why my vote is currently staying there.

If it doesn't appear that people are willing to eliminate NAS, I would swap to Willow, rather than somebody else to make sure we got a flip today, to avoid us potentially eliminating a potential PR, or forcing a PR to out themselves.

[KayJayQueue]

As I said, my NAS vote is purely biased from how he plays day 1 and how while apparently not AI as others noted, he was scum the last time he did it in a game why me. If he’s town…maybe I’m just overly invested right off the bat but I just don’t get purposely disengaging for all of day 1.

I was leaning Will’o earlier but the vt claim…I don’t really know what to do with that. Again, my experience is limited but the last time someone claimed vt with a wagon on them on D1, they actually had a PR. So now Will’o is a big question mark for me because I don’t even have a guess on if it’s vt, pr or scum.