Large Normal 247 - Day 4

[KayJayQueue]

Like....I am tempted to just ignore the hood. We have all made The assumption there is scum in there, but i dont think the odds are any better than a Random player in the game so it isn't much use for a scum hunting tactic.

Or am I totally missing something? Some better than me explain it otherwise?

I think the odds are much better choosing 1 out of 5 instead of 1 of 8 (if you’re ignoring the hood, 1 of 13 if not)
Unless you’re arguing it’s not guaranteed that scum is in the 5. But everyone with experience so far has said there pretty much has to be (high percentage)
Sure, I highly doubt all scum are contained in the neighborhood so we still have a shot of catching scum outside but I wouldn’t say our odds are “better”.

But also I don’t fall under the “someone better than me” to explain so feel free to ignore.

[Gypyx]

Checking in.
That is a big hood. I don't think I've ever been in a game with one so large.

Was it any use? Like....I can't see a point of it. I am assuming there is scum in there reporting back (unless scum don't have day talk), so thebhood can't use it to stratergise or anything?

It just seems a pointless waste of mental spaceship?

Was someone really trying to keep it hidden to bait out a private thread investigator?
That seems an epically useless role That I cannotnwork out it's in game use except to confuse a townie.

PT cop also detects the scum PT

and like, seeing how the hood went (so outside of pure setup considerations) i think we have a very high scum denstiy

[Random Nurse]

Let's give us something to talk about.

There is a neighbourhood in this game that consists of:
Myself (Thomith)
Gypyx
Snow
Titus
Dave

So, hello, we have a big announcement to kind of try to shake things up (seems like everyone is struggling to do things)

we have a 5 players neighborhood consisting of Gypyx / Thomith / Snow / Davesaz / Titus

my initial flashwagon on snow came from him making a pretty lackluster entry in the hood and trying to create pressure on that

Hm.

So you both mentioned this neighborhood at basically the same time.

Uncanny.

[Gypyx]

it's almost as if we had a PT to coordiante revealing the hood

[KayJayQueue]

it's almost as if we had a PT to coordiante revealing the hood

[Gypyx]

not a fan of random nurse making this comment

but anyways, i'm voting in the hood today

VOTE: davesaz

[KayJayQueue]

Is the plan to hammer Dave even with a claim, and then do the same the next day? I’m just trying to figure out if this is played differently than other games that don’t have neighborhoods. Can someone be in the neighborhood with a PR or is it just neighbor and they can’t be anything else (I’m just wondering if claiming even matters, or if it’s obvious, since I don’t fully understand the schematics)

[Gypyx]

Is the plan to hammer Dave even with a claim, and then do the same the next day? I’m just trying to figure out if this is played differently than other games that don’t have neighborhoods. Can someone be in the neighborhood with a PR or is it just neighbor and they can’t be anything else (I’m just wondering if claiming even matters, or if it’s obvious, since I don’t fully understand the schematics)

you can be a neighbor with another PR on top of it yes, and the plan is to wagon dave and see where that gets us right now

[Random Nurse]

it's almost as if we had a PT to coordiante revealing the hood

Couldn't just one person reveal it?

Obviously if they were lying someone else would step in.

Oh, and pardon me for noting my observation.

[Alianna]

2.03

Votecount 2.03

davesaz (E-2): Hu Tao, Random Nurse, Thomith, PenguinPower, Gypyx
Naerys (1): Little Will o' Wisp
Random Nurse (1): Naerys

Not Voting (6): Oblivion, Snow2697, geraintm, KayJayQueue, Titus, davesaz

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-04-06 10:29:00).

Mod Notes: The combined mod ISO is here.

[KayJayQueue]

2.03

Votecount 2.03

davesaz (E-2): Hu Tao, Random Nurse, Thomith, PenguinPower, davesaz
Naerys (1): Little Will o' Wisp
Random Nurse (1): Naerys

Not Voting (6): Gypyx, Oblivion, Snow2697, geraintm, KayJayQueue, Titus

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-04-06 10:29:00).

Mod Notes: The combined mod ISO is here.

I think Dave & Gypyx got mixed up

[Alianna]

Fixed.

[Snow2697]

Hood
Thomith – active, says right things, but with his activity does not scumread people and has not focused on people in the hood (except early train on me). Is he really hunting scums? Has strong TR on Gypyx.
Gypyx – strong TR on Thomith. SR on Will, said that he could lim Dave. Did not vote into the hood until recently (and except early train on me).
Titus – inactive, but voted Dave-Naerys, so position close to mine.
Davesaz – inactive. Suspicious.

Outside hood
Will – initiated a conflict with Naerys, early VT claim.
Naerys – did not respond to questions.

I would focus on Thomith-Gypyx-Dave. May be Will/Naerys. Dave is sus, but I don’t like Thomith and Gypyx townreading each other and being together in trains on me, NAS and Dave.

[Snow2697]

It's noteworthy btw that if I remember things right RN defended Naerys at least twice, but she is voting him. Is this a real or an artificial conflict?

[Thomith]

Hood
Thomith – active, says right things, but with his activity does not scumread people and has not focused on people in the hood (except early train on me). Is he really hunting scums? Has strong TR on Gypyx.
Gypyx – strong TR on Thomith. SR on Will, said that he could lim Dave. Did not vote into the hood until recently (and except early train on me).
Titus – inactive, but voted Dave-Naerys, so position close to mine.
Davesaz – inactive. Suspicious.

Outside hood
Will – initiated a conflict with Naerys, early VT claim.
Naerys – did not respond to questions.

I would focus on Thomith-Gypyx-Dave. May be Will/Naerys. Dave is sus, but I don’t like Thomith and Gypyx townreading each other and being together in trains on me, NAS and Dave.

I'm literally voting dave.

[Thomith]

I literally brought up the Neighbourhood, then have begun taking steps to solve within the hood today, so to say I'm not focusing on the hood is incorrect.

This is honestly reading like you are concerned that a town core is forming within the hood, and one half of that is suspecting you, so you are trying to break it up.

[Gypyx]

So townies aren't allowed to trust each other anymore?

[Gypyx]

I agree with thomith that snow's suspicion of me / thomith reads like trying to break a towncore creating itself, especially since his read is not based on anything more than "they townread each other"

[geraintm]

Like....I am tempted to just ignore the hood. We have all made The assumption there is scum in there, but i dont think the odds are any better than a Random player in the game so it isn't much use for a scum hunting tactic.

Or am I totally missing something? Some better than me explain it otherwise?

I think the odds are much better choosing 1 out of 5 instead of 1 of 8 (if you’re ignoring the hood, 1 of 13 if not)
Unless you’re arguing it’s not guaranteed that scum is in the 5. But everyone with experience so far has said there pretty much has to be (high percentage)
Sure, I highly doubt all scum are contained in the neighborhood so we still have a shot of catching scum outside but I wouldn’t say our odds are “better”.

But also I don’t fall under the “someone better than me” to explain so feel free to ignore.

Assuming there is 1 scum in the hood, that is 1 in 5.
Assuming then 2 scum not in the hood, that is 2 in 10. (Well 9 because I'm not in the hood)

I have no idea what you mean with 1 in 13??

[Random Nurse]

It's noteworthy btw that if I remember things right RN defended Naerys at least twice, but she is voting him. Is this a real or an artificial conflict?

I didn't defend her I pointed out my experiences with her in a past game when we were both Town.

[Random Nurse]

I'm just going to say right now I hate "towncores/townblocks" in general. Too easy to shield experienced Scum.

[Random Nurse]

I have a gut feeling there's one Scum among Snow/Thomith. Probably more likely among Thomith/Gypyx.

[Gypyx]

I have a gut feeling there's one Scum among Snow/Thomith. Probably more likely among Thomith/Gypyx.

Elaborate on why you think one of us is pocketed?

[Gypyx]

Not sure how to read RN's current mindset, it's extremely reactive / defensive, but not in an overtly scum way? He feels kinda lost in a way

Oblivion, since you like crafting mind models so much, what does it have to say about Nurse

[Thomith]

I'm just going to say right now I hate "towncores/townblocks" in general. Too easy to shield experienced Scum.

The townblock is between two people, so while I understand your concern when it is on a bigger scale, I don't see how two people who strongly townread each other based on information derived during the game, based on how the other is playing has that same risk of scum hiding behind it?