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[geraintm]

da fuk gypyx
we need to consolidate asap

Psyche is just being town right now methinks

and i just don't like how oblivion has faded into the background while getting away with it because of towny-looking playstyle

if you are town, then it feels like scum have been letting you lead the elimination today and hoping to passively get a death through that won't have their fingerprints on

[geraintm]

A number of points:
1. We have a pair of scums or a pair of towns Thomith-Gypyx.
2. They seem to stop scumreading people once the latter stop conflicting with them. Weird. But this can be their desire to protect each other.
3. So, what to do? One approach is to "test" and lim one of them. May be not worth it.
4. The other is that lim one of Thomith-Gypyx later after we milim towns (query is how many tries we give them). If so, another query is how many power we give them in directing a lime (since they will be responsible for a mislim/s).
5. In the scenario where Thomith-Gypyx are town, I would probably focus on Naerys.

they surely know they wont be allowed to survive too long and will be pushed out by us before it gets too close to the end.

[Snow2697]

My post is to invite exchange of views on the issue.
I tend to play for some time, at least this day, on the assumption that you are town.
Maybe we don't need to decide on the number of mislims now.

[geraintm]

yeah i hate that you do that day 1 thing but i understand that as NAI for you
even beyond that though all of your votes have probably always been on town, and also not super well motivated
not knowing about ranger's neighbor posts is some kind of excuse, sure, but there are other scum in this game and your votes haven't help find them

but hmmm actually the naerys vote

could

turn out to be prescient good luck out there

Sorry I missed this.
I'll reread later

ok, ignoring the bit about my interaction with you that you did reply to (i brought it up because i needed to remind mysel what i thought about you previously)
(not looking at every posst)

2205- defeatist post
2201 - wants now to sheep Gypys.thom

2194 - snips at me for my read on lycan being poor and how i will look bad after they flip (though there would be 5 other people on the same wagon, wont they all look equally bad?)

2188 - zero content interaction with Kay and Naerys

219 - defeatist post
2175 - very deafeatist post

2170 - snippy

2168 - snippy

2156 - frustrated post

2148 - very defeatist post

so i stand by my view that your last series of posts are snippy. you just have the vibe of someone who has relaced in to a scum slot and cannot change the narrative. coupled with scum going down yesterday i wouldnt blame you.


i note in your 2194 you don't actually bother to dispute my read on you

[Alianna]

3.14

Votecount 3.14

Oblivion (3): Gypyx, Thomith, KayJayQueue
Psyche (2): Titus, geraintm
Lycanfire (2): Random Nurse, Naerys
geraintm (1): Lycanfire

Not Voting (3): Oblivion, Snow2697, Psyche

With 11 players alive, it takes 6 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-04-17 13:15:36).

Mod Notes: The combined mod ISO is here.

[Oblivion]

Killing it is a truly truly brain dead decision given how it played around Ranger yesterday but it is honestly over playing this game? No one wants to listen to it, and two supposed masons are deciding how things go. It is VT, it doesn't care. Kill it so it can stop playing this truly terrible game and either take credit for being right when town wins or laugh when town loses.

[Oblivion]

Tell you what.

It is fine if you kill it today, except, when neither Thomith or Gypyx die tonight, kill one of them tomorrow before ELO for it.

If they're town, they're hard throwing voting for it anyway, and if they're scum we get to deny this fake claim play.

[Oblivion]

VOTE: oblivion

Bestie-masons have spoken

Also, this is probably not a town post.

Anyway, it's gonna go AFK for another 24 hours again because it can't be bothered to care. The "masons" will either come to their senses or they won't, and the town will either enable them to do this, or they won't. If they kill it, town better flip one of them tomorrow so you don't have them both alive in ELO for 0 good reason.

[Psyche]

i can't bother atm to check if it's a total misrep but even if it weren't, nothing in gera's pbpa identifies scummy behaviors. rationale for scumreading me is still extremely leaky, particularly for someone now doubling down on it.

[Lycanfire]

I don't understand the paranoia about the homies.

Thomith's crumb points to it and their behavior day 2 should clinch it.

Oblivion's town because of its 1v1 with Ranger yesterday. Go read the back and forth and tell me that's fake.

Also I was playing along because I thought my wagon was bait, but how am I scummy Gypyx?

[Lycanfire]

Oblivion please come back. Your plan isn't going through. Even if it was a good plan it runs into Snow's problem: nobody will listen to you after your dead.

[Lycanfire]

You're ebwop

[Psyche]

kinda weird to me how many players can't appreciate how townlocked gypyx/thom should be rn

at very worst the hypothetical that they are a team should only be taken seriously if we get to lylo or something with neither another scumlim nor one of their deaths

[Lycanfire]

Just as weird as anyone scumreading me after I exposed:

1) Ranger's bad progression in reads
2) Ranger's scumread of Hu Tao despite Hu Tao not posting on that page or the three previous
3) How Ranger's "wait until you see what davesaz's role really was" along with the shitclaim.

Yet if you were off the wagon you are obviously town!

[Oblivion]

Oblivion please come back. Your plan isn't going through. Even if it was a good plan it runs into Snow's problem: nobody will listen to you after your dead.

Ah but see, the issue is that it has lost all motivation to try?

It wants to kill Naerys or Jay. Pick one and kill them with it. But are players really going to go against the masons? Why does it matter, it has zero desire to convince players who have no desire to be convinced and whose egos appear to be too large to do anything but whatever schemes they can dream of.

[Lycanfire]

It should be frustrating if you work against Gypyx/Thomith here. You won't get anywhere with them if you don't talk to them, Oblivion. Don't let a problem weigh you down when you can do something about it.

Naerys seems like elimination bait. Can you go more into your read on Kay?

[Snow2697]

kinda weird to me how many players can't appreciate how townlocked gypyx/thom should be rn

at very worst the hypothetical that they are a team should only be taken seriously if we get to lylo or something with neither another scumlim nor one of their deaths

Another approach is that we simply assume for some time that they are towns, but are not following them. Since even if they are town, they have yet to explain why their vote is right.
Not sure I fully understand their vote into Oblivion.

[Naerys]

kinda weird to me how many players can't appreciate how townlocked gypyx/thom should be rn

at very worst the hypothetical that they are a team should only be taken seriously if we get to lylo or something with neither another scumlim nor one of their deaths

It would be stupid of scum to tie themselves together like that so yeah i think gypyx and thom are town

[Naerys]

I can see psyche/snow buddies if lycan is town tbh

[Gypyx]

need to reread the oblivion ranger interactions ig

hu tao does seem to be a possibility?

kinda afraid to pivot onto a TPR

[Naerys]

Hu is dead, gypyx

[Gypyx]

Brain goes hehe

[Random Nurse]

Why should Oblivion be the lim?

[Psyche]

woah i just learned about [post] tags

[geraintm]

kinda weird to me how many players can't appreciate how townlocked gypyx/thom should be rn

at very worst the hypothetical that they are a team should only be taken seriously if we get to lylo or something with neither another scumlim nor one of their deaths

It would be stupid of scum to tie themselves together like that so yeah i think gypyx and thom are town

It is certainly my assumption until proved otherwise.