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Hello.
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Choice: One. I'm 80% certain this is the right choice.
Bane: Titus. Because I see no scenario in which knowing her sign is a bad thing.My academy.
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Sounds a lot like me. Unfortunately, my team was more focused on getting specificIn post 27, Zar wrote:he couldn't stop talking about how much he loves being scum and all these evil mustache twirling plans he had in mind for future scum games, so...games(we got every game we wanted, and positioned pretty much exactly as we desired too) rather than specific alignments, so here I am stuck as not only town, but a walking deadwoman of a town player.My academy.
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While I need to debate this to be sure, I'd massively, MASSIVELY prefer One.In post 40, T S O wrote:Choosing between One and Two seems to be kinda irrelevant to me, honestly, but I'd prefer Two to One.My academy.
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Not the town-UT *I* knew.In post 57, T S O wrote:Actually, UT's anger does feel a little off, given that the only catalyst for it was someone disagreeing with him. I guess it's possible that UT has extreme anger issues, but it doesn't seem particularly likely.My academy.
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Actually, I'm an idiot.
I got that backwards.
Choice: Two.
Thisis the superior option, pretty sure.
Sorry.My academy.
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How about that Choice 2, while not confirming players from the word of the mod, can still confirm players through word of the player, while making said protection stronger, meaning town potentially lives longer?In post 141, DeasVail wrote:I've thought about it and I really believe that Choice 1 is better. I think it has great potential to confirm people as town where Choice 2 wouldn't. I'm happy to consider arguments for Choice 2 in the meantime though.
(Very important, that.)My academy.
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My team's quite active! Just not on what I need at the moment.In post 229, Tammy wrote:Because you're not actually discussing the game.My academy.
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Tough. All you're getting is that Baning me is a Very Bad Idea (TM). I have very good reason for this.In post 255, Shadoweh wrote:I still want to powerbane Mastin and am looking forward to walls about it!
That said, Grey's probs-right about TSO.My academy.
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Weekend V/LA, work, plus dealing with rl affairs. (Schedule conflict. Nasty.)In post 262, Titus wrote:Kinda surprised Mastina is not here yet.
Builds up.
Also, going to say that I agree with the assessment of my buddies on DV more or less, but what said assessment IS will wait.My academy.
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Seriously, don't make me emphasize this more. I'm already a dead woman walking; don't speed it up.In post 270, Titus wrote:What do you think of baning Mastina?My academy.
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Probably has scum involved. 1 or 2 makes the difference in my other reads, though. And not really stating an opinion on which of the three scum combos I think is most likely. I don't think it's townVtown is all.In post 306, GuyInFreezer wrote:So what do YOU think of Zar/Tammy interaction? TvT? TvS? Scum theatre?My academy.
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(Also, vezok's town.)My academy.
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FFS, you have NO clue how much this argument ticks me off.In post 331, Titus wrote:I really don't like Mastina lurking.
You have toactually be on sitefor it to be lurking.
Which I am easily-established to NOT be, for quite a large period of time, to the point where on weekends it often will look like I've siteflaked.
This game started.
I wasn't here.
I got here as soon as I could.
Really.
Go into my post history.
Look at the timetables I typically post at.
Weekend posts are rare, sporadic at best.
Posting Monday Night late enough that it's technically 1+ am on Tuesdays, and similar time for Tuesdays technically being Wednesdays, and lateposting each weekday?
Extremely common. You can verify this going back at least two, three months. (Heck! Look at the times I posted during my modded game. When posting on the weekend, my updates were less effective and more brutal. I also deliberately orchestrated nights to avoid ending on the weekend save for the one that did, specifically because nights ending on the weekend were something I knew would be disastrous because I wouldn't be around to do anything more than just open the thread.)
I come when I come. I come as often as I can come. No, literally. I give up hours of my freetime every single day for mafia. If I gave more than I do, then I'd destroy myself. I am not omnipresent. As much as I'd like to be (especially when I get groundbreaking thoughts I want to post aboutright. then.), we don't have that tech yet, and work and such comes first.
And yet, in spite of this.
Entirely null.
Thing that is out of my control.
In multiple games.
Thisexactpoint.
Keeps.
coming.
up.
I don't like it. I hate it. But YES. Believe it or not. I have a real life, outside mafiascum, difficult as that may be to process given how much time I pour into here. You have my attention whenever I can give it. But I cannot. Literally cannot. Give it all the time.My academy.
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It was basically far, FAR more important to get the right games than the right alignment as far as I was concerned. Getting into THIS game was my request, because I've been playing extensively in Large Themes. As town, I typically either die early (this game, duh), or live long enough to give the scum a beating. I also figured that if I got scum, it would be a goldmine. I had my strategy all laid out. I had everything planned out. I didn't tell my team what it was in the off chance I got town (because I was feeling scum, justIn [url=/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6722310#p6722310]post 341[/url], Bulbazak wrote:I wouldn't put it past her to WIFOM everyone by not spending tokens on herself.feelingit. Haha. THAT worked out well ) so that I could use it in a future game instead, but basically, I knew that if I did well as scum in THIS game, if I brought my A-game, then I wouldn't just be showing off to the members of this game--I'd be demonstrating, proudly, for the first time in a full year, the full extent of my scumgame...to the ENTIRETY of mafiascum, effectively: I'd have fooled not 16 players, but 64, almost all of them being big-name players.
...And then I not only drew town, but dead woman walking town.My academy.
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By pretending he's me.In post 352, Titus wrote:@Bulba, how can you townread someone who has not posted?
(Also, for the curious, yes, it is in fact 3 am as I post this. And no, I am not done with my site duties yet. And yes, I do get up at...oh, I believe tomorrow it's 10 AM. Might be 9, I forget; I'll figure it out when my alarm goes off. When I say I come when I can...I REALLY mean, I come when I can...and that the times I can come are frequently late at night, VERY late at night.)My academy.
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I have words to say on this.In post 376, DeasVail wrote:Bulb, if you're town then I appreciate the advice, but I currently think you're scum for a number of reasons, not limited to you telling me what to do.
I don't want to say them right now.My academy.
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Quite the opposite. Deadwoman by SCUM hands.In post 382, Shadoweh wrote:even Mastin thinks we should lynch Mastin!
If I'm a deadwoman by town hands, we deserve a Tales-styled loss.My academy.
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Two gives double the protection on a person, extending the life of a successful protect.In post 384, DeasVail wrote:I don't get what you mean here, so if you could explain in simple terms it would be much appreciated. I do also have a more detailed posts explaining my preference of choice.
A player, be it that person or an external benefactor, can claim it.
Plus ~reasons~.My academy.
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TammyIn post 391, Shadoweh wrote:You think Zar/Tammy is possible scum on scum? :Vshouldbe the first person to tell you I'd be a foolnotto consider it.
Also, Cheetory is town.My academy.
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In post 401, Shadoweh wrote:
Do you have any reasons to suspect this based on reality rather then FUD paranoia?In post 398, mastin2 wrote:
TammyIn post 391, Shadoweh wrote:You think Zar/Tammy is possible scum on scum? :Vshouldbe the first person to tell you I'd be a foolnotto consider it.Sort-of.
Tammy could be scum.
Zar could be scum and has fairly decent chances of being scum.
I do not think their interactions are such where Tammymustbe town if Zar is scum. I can, very easily, plausibly see this as scum-scum distancing. Do I think it is, no. Do I think it ISN'T, though, that is ALSO a no. It's a, "in the back of my mind" type thing, stronger than paranoia but weaker than actual proper suspicion, where I'll have my eye on it the entire time and will not pass judgement until I'm sure.
(Yes, I'm way back here.)My academy.
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(This is why you DON'T leave things like this in hammering range, PARTICULARLY when I haven't been around to read, because no, when I cast my vote, I do NOT check to see. Very much ticked off at this.)In post 417, hitogoroshi wrote:TheChoicehas been made. The effect of protection is to prevent one kill on the target and to inform the target if a kill on them is prevented this way.
Vezok is ridiculously easy to read; he's town.In post 406, ChannelDelibird wrote:CES argues that we should use the Bane on a player who is hard to read (vezok is his example).
This is very, very sheepable.In post 420, fferyllt wrote:TOWN
Tammy
Deasvail
GiF
Titus
MAYBE TOWN
Marquis. - I don't like the stuff Deas likes. Will ultimately probably defer to GiF
Actiondan. - possibility of scum theater maybe, but otherwise leaning a little town. have a question in to my team about the interaction with UT
T S O - not having a strong read on him is concerning me a little
Gammagooey. - will be soliciting from my team to clarify this read
ChannelDelibird.
Cheetory6.
Mastin2. - this will be a nacho-read probs. Leaning slight town on my own.
Shadoweh. - want input from my team
NOT SO TOWN
Bulbazak.
UT
Vezok
Zar. - here for now because Tammy/Empire.
WHERE THE HELL ARE YOU?
Antihero.
Aronis.
Espeonage.My academy.
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Grey should totally swap into this game just so that he and I can synch up without having to go through a filter.In post 486, Shadoweh wrote:CeeDeeBee, GreyICE is challenging you on CES saying vezok is hard to read. He says vezok is easycake biscuits to read and wants to know why your team is saying otherwise. I generally agree with this, vezok is pretty straightforward.
Butyeah, obviously agreed.
I've finished reading page 20, but at the risk of falling further behind at our current rate, I want to call it a night at there and resume from 21 tomorrow. Itis3 AM right now, and honestly I'm not sure I have the stamina to read 18 additional pages tonight. I should have additional time tomorrow, though.My academy.
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Hey, know that spot of page 21? Still there. Briefly coming here, though, to say:
Esp is scum regardless of what his alignment is.In post 960, Espeonage wrote:I honestly don't trust anyone enough right now to give them Boon.
Just saying.
And now, if you don't mind, I have a TON of reading to do.My academy.
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(And worse...I'm going to be mostly alone. See, team mafia aint exactly a team if you catch my drift. :/)My academy.
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Hi.
I'm here.
I basically am not in the game aside from blind flailing.
I wake up in 4.75 hours (it's 1 AM and I get up at six), so no promise of getting caught up, but my life IS looking like it's FINALLY, FINALLY getting into the clear, so I should be able to make sense of this stuff soon.My academy.
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So I'm here, but I'm not really here, you could say.
I certainly don't have the strength of four players at my back.
I'm going to be the sorry soul who did absolutely nothing but got nightkilled early-on via policy alone.
(Yes, I will try to fix that.)My academy.
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Back pathetically long ago (by which, I mean, in the first 20 pages), my group (myself included) shared this sentiment, though in my case the emphasis was on DV.In post 1416, fferyllt wrote:Nacho thought the interactions between DV and Marquis felt off.
Also, not lynching Tammy and going to probably just lynch anyone pushing her.
Vote: Espeonage.
Just to put that out there.
Oh and did I mention I'm still horrifically behind having not read anything except random pieces? I'm applying a, "keep reading the current material and scratch the older stuff until I have the time" policy right now. When I have the time, I'll read the 40-page gap for all that important stuff, but right now, not so much; staying caught up is far more important.My academy.
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In post 1428, hitogoroshi wrote:(6)TellTaleHeart:Titus, Empire, Tammy, Aronis, Marquis, vezokpiraka [L-4]
(1)Bulbazak:Gammagooey
(1)GuyInFreezer:ChannelDelibird
(1)Tammy:Espeonage
(1)Aronis:Bulbazak
(0)Gammagooey:(Bulbazak)
That TTH wagon looks bad.
I remember thinking vezok was town, so not going there, and Tammy I'm assuming at this point to just be town, but this is just a whole bunch of to me.
...Incidentally, the (1) voters aren't so great, either. Gamma's probtown but I'm not feeling a Bulba wagon; CDB's okay but I've got nuthin' on GIF, Esp I voted for good reason, and Bulba's not great though I'm at leastinterestedin his Aronis vote. (His prior Gamma vote doesn't look good, though.)
Not Voting I cut out since, y'know, daystart.My academy.
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Okay. Could be wrong. But IIn post 1433, Aronis wrote:I'm not willing to disclose my read on Bulba at this time to it not being that strong and I want to be able to keep a close eye on his behavior for a while longer before being 100% sure.thinkI see something in this that'd make Aronis town.My academy.
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For what it's worth: the more I read, the better I feel about voting Esp.My academy.
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Also, 1458 makes me seriously not want to touch Bulba for quite a while. Not off the hook, per se, but a wide, wide berth. It's not nearly enough by itself for me to lock down a read on him. (If I was actually fully in the game right now I probably could do exactly that.) But I'm just gonna go with my superficial gut reaction to it, which was that it's town, and even if that's wrong I'm sticking to it for now.My academy.
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IsIn post 1466, Shadoweh wrote:Simply put, DV is on my team's list of expected nightkills, so detecting him is suspicious.thatit?
...Seriously?
THAT?
It?
Investigating Deas.Vail.
I'm sorry. Can't help it. Yeah, the TTH wagon is BS.My academy.
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True he doesn't like it.In post 1498, vezokpiraka wrote:He was scun and doesn't like playing scum.
Doesn't mean he can't play it, though.
Seriously, the TTH wagon is just...bad.
Like, I realize it's not gonna have a load of scum on it, but that doesn't automatically make it good, either.
Cheetory I think is town, CDB is town enough, but their joining only made the wagon all the more worse.My academy.
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Not gonna support that, either, since I remember GI's reads lining up nicely with my own early-on. I want to keep Shadow around for the time being to see more of that.
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Also,
VOTE: Espeonage.
Official votetag upgrade.My academy.
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So.
Vezok's town.
Tammy's town.
TTH is probtown.
Shadow I'm not touching.
Bulbazak's getting a pass.
Aronis may be town.
Cheetory is town enough.
Gamma looks fine.
CDB is good enough for now.
Marquis is kinda...ehhhh.
DV is just...ehhhhhhhhhh.
Empire's scum.
Espeonage is scum.
Leaves ActionDan, GIF, Titus, TSO, and UT to sort.My academy.
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Not disagreeing.In post 1514, TellTaleHeart wrote:The ambivalence in the read itself and the failure to pursue any other leads while soft supporting the wagon under the banner of "vezok got results" is a position I think scum are more likely to take.
I just don't think that Shadow's scum who took it.
Other players, though, that're off your wagon? Very well may be.My academy.
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Well I'm not saying they're gonna be great, given they were made almost entirely off of four pages of content with vague memories of earlygame thrown in, but they feel fairly good to me, so while we can talk, probs just gonna go with my flow. (Unless my teammates yell at me that I'm being stupid. )In post 1517, Titus wrote:We need to talk on some of those reads Mastina.My academy.
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Sure thing!In post 1525, Gammagooey wrote:you do realize that scum will have been detecting their likely nightkill targets if they want to not have 3 different actions all spent on killing a single person right?
I'm still laughing.My academy.
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Pure gut. Nothing there but ~feels~ of not being scum, just probably not pushing in the right spots.In post 1535, Bulbazak wrote:Mastin: Talk to me about Gamma.My academy.
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There was nothing for me to say about it.In post 1539, Titus wrote:Can you please hit 1534??
I think scum are scum; I don't think they're any more nor less likely to attack a player because of another scum doing the same if both are. Nor do I think they would plan an attack--it's theoretically possible, but not exactly probable. That doesn't mean they haven't done the attack, though.My academy.
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It's a gift.In post 1544, DeasVail wrote:I'd also like mastin to explain her strong reaction to the reasons for the TTH wagon considering her lack of engagement with the game. You're acting like someone who has a strong handle on the game and is very confident that her views > everyone else's in 1505, yet this sentiment is not shared by other posts.
Sometimes, I really can come in, look at stuff, and go, "Yep. That's X."
X in this case being a BS wagon on a town player.
If I knew how it worked, I'd tell you. But while I might not have a perfect handle on the game, I'm ~feeling good~.My academy.
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^In post 1538, mastin2 wrote:
Pure gut. Nothing there but ~feels~ of not being scum, just probably not pushing in the right spots.In post 1535, Bulbazak wrote:Mastin: Talk to me about Gamma.My academy.
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(BTW, tried this via iso. Dan and GIF gave me nothing. TSO I think can give something, but I skimmed too much so gave me nothing, either. Haven't bothered with Titus or UT, but needless to say, I'm not getting reads on 'em any time soon.)In post 1513, mastin2 wrote:Leaves ActionDan, GIF, Titus, TSO, and UT to sort.My academy.
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Uhh. Titus?In post 1553, Titus wrote:
My team wants me to sheep this, not that they've seen this comment specifically, but they told me to find a player whose reads you generally agree with. Vote their gut read and see what the hell happens and not to do too much forcing (but for town reads).In post 1552, mastin2 wrote:
^In post 1538, mastin2 wrote:
Pure gut. Nothing there but ~feels~ of not being scum, just probably not pushing in the right spots.In post 1535, Bulbazak wrote:Mastin: Talk to me about Gamma.
So yes, this logically sucks, but I'm doing this because, go team!
VOTE: Gamma
That was me saying Gamma's town.My academy.
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If you want to sheep me, though, there's a nice shiny Esp wagon to join!My academy.
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I feel horrible doing this, but I have to say it.
Empire's replace-out wasn't a town one.
singer's content is not town content.
That read's not a holdover of a read on Empire. I mean that singer's content simply isn't town, in addition to her slot not having been town in any of its iterations.
Then you should have the same feels about Esp as you did about Toon!In post 1596, Bulbazak wrote:I have the same feelings regarding the TTH wagon as I did with the Shos wagon in Unbalanced 2. It's a bad lynch.My academy.
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For those who don't get it, yes, I am saying Esp is scum, like Toon was scum. The push there seems good.
The push on TTH is horrible, and yes, Bulb is right in his reasoning, too. (Incidentally, it increases the townread there, so IF--and this is becoming an increasingly HUGE if--Bulb's scum, his defense is a smart one.) His reasoning is (almost) my reasoning. The push is just bad, and the people that supported the wagon are mostly bad.My academy.
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Hey, worked in Drawn on Arrival! (Admittedly every time I get arrogant andIn post 1630, Cheetory6 wrote:I don't want to just sheep mastin [though I'm honestly kind of feeling tempted to]. q.qthinkmy play is great it ends up only being mediocre, and right now I'm feeling arrogant and think my play is great therefore it is almost certainly mediocre and not great, butstill, can't help but feel like I'm doing well. But if I had to choose a game this'd be closer to, DoA would be closer than Sabotage. I'm probably not right on everything. But I can feel I'm right on more than I'm wrong on.)
No, I think that wagon has one or two scum on it and no more. I'd need to check the names on it to be sure, though.In post 1625, Cheetory6 wrote:@mastin, you think that scum was trying for a quicklynch here?
Because calling someone scum after they replace out including thinking their replace-out post was scumposting is a horrible, horrible thing and yet here I am?In post 1629, singersigner wrote:1. Why do you feel horrible for voicing your opinions/reads?
On the contrary. You gave plenty of content. It just all screamed scum to me. (Also, tangent, but I got a read on things in four pages.)I don't really have any content to contribute right now with what little I've read and how far behind I am.
Oh, there's certainly more to your posts than you think there is.If you'd like to read more into my posts than there is, I suppose that's your prerogative.
On the contrary, the one, and ONLY discussion I shut down is talks of lynching TTH. (For good reason.) Other than that, I've actually done more in 48 hours for opening talks up than the rest of the playerlist.I need to interact with people to figure out the game and I don't see you positioning yourself in a way I can do that with you having shut down that flow of communication before it even started.
Well, my reasoning basically goes like this:In post 1636, Bulbazak wrote:Let's just be more specific here Mastin. The not town content coming from Singer is her attempt to try to limp wristedly push the TTH wagon back into the spotlight based on "information". As I've said, the TTH wagon was a clusterf-, and using it for information will probably lead to more mislynches if scum are pushing that angle. I could see Singer trying to promote lynching those nervous about the speed of the wagon, rather than those on the wagon pushing for crap reasons. Besides, if she really wanted to lynch someone based on interaction and who would give the most information, she'd be angling for my lynch.
Zar when he was playing looked like scum.
Empire, through Zar as a proxy, looked like he was playing scum.
The switch-in looked like a scum-motivated switch.
Empire, from what I've gathered, looks like scum.
His replace-out looked like scum-faking-what-should-be-done-by-town. (I know this all too well. But I feel terrible about it--if I'm right, it's not a good accusation and if I'm wrong it's an even worse one to make.)
singer's posted plenty of content, contrary to her insistence she hasn't, but none of it has been town.
I just don't see the town in there.My academy.
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Then talk to me. My reads have been posted. singer's stronger scum than ever before. Other updates I'll mention as they happen (my read on DV continues to degrade for instance), so it's really on your end.In post 1638, fferyllt wrote:Mastin, usually you and I don't do a lot of direct interaction in games. I think the rest of this game day could benefit by being an exception.My academy.
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A player voting TTH holds no respect saying this to me, vezok.In post 1651, vezokpiraka wrote:Can you please understand for the love of all that is holy that Empire is town and your gut is broken?
Dead serious.
A player not voting TTH, even a scumread of mine, even if a player I've never met nor heard of, saying the exact same thing, holds more respect than you who I know and respect and think town. Because of a TTH vote.My academy.
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(Says the person who just said vezok could be scum. And witnessed me nail basically every anti-town in Drawn on Arrival save for one who died via NK during the night that was null. I do do derping, but no matter how much derping I do, and no matter how mediocre my play, I am not myself a derp.)In post 1682, Untrod Tripod wrote:mastin is a derp, but what's new.My academy.
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Yeah, two scum max.In post 1753, Bulbazak wrote:(7)TellTaleHeart:Titus,Empire,Tammy,Aronis, Marquis,vezokpiraka, Cheetory6[L-3](ChannelDelibrd)My academy.
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This, incidentally, is the strongest proof I have that my reads aren't perfect. Gamma's a townread, Shadow's getting a pass, Cheet looks town enough, I'm not interested in pursuing Titus, so really that leaves GIF, Aronis (who was a townread but I admit Bulba's sparked my interest in) and TSO for there to be scum aside from DV.In post 1765, Bulbazak wrote:(10)Bulbazak:DeasVail, Gammagooey, Shadoweh, Cheetory6, Titus,vezokpiraka, GuyInFreezer, Aronis,Tammy, T S O
Also, the following people tried to cast bane votes on me after the hammer: CDB, UT
Not the best of odds.
I mean, logically, it makes no sense for there to be only one scum on the wagon.
But that's what my gut says.
Or that if there is a second, it's GIF. But that's just POE on thinking not-Aronis and not-TSO and not-the-people-I'm-passing. Thus the one. (Gut.)My academy.
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*Addendum: add UT to the list and make it GIF/UT.My academy.
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I'm gonna be "that guy". (Well, girl. But the expression is 'that guy', so let's assume it's *generic* 'guy', rather than gendered 'guy', i.e. "hey guys" to a group of mixed genders.)In post 1833, DeasVail wrote:[ActionDan, Aronis, Bulbazak, GiF, Mastin2, Shadoweh]
Yes,thatone.
See that banner under DV's name?
I'm going there.
I am town. (Not just town, walking deadwoman town.)
TTH is town.
Bulbazak is town.
Shadow isn't as certainly town but probably is.
This list could have scum (Dan, Aronis, GIF), and probably does (town who's only mostly off, or scum who's bussing, either way works), but likely only one, two at absolute most and not particularly probable to be more than one. (Zero is possible.)
This is not scumhunter-of-the-year-level play.
It is, however, scumplayer-that's-darn-good play.My academy.
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Like.In post 1834, Shadoweh wrote:Town: Titus, Tammy, Deevees, vezok, TSO
People keep telling me Empire was town.
And I see that slot, and I just go..."nope".
People keep telling me DV is town.
And I wonder what the heck the town is smoking.My academy.
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Hey, singer.In post 1872, singersigner wrote:AS SCUM, you're trying to trick the town, or throw shit around, or blend in, or make enough noise that people get distracted, or whatever scum-playing tactic one might have, right?
Guess what I think you've been doing ever since you came into the game?My academy.
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No duh, and Nacho owes me BIG time.In post 1884, Tammy wrote:are you guys reading mastin as town?My academy.
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I'll give you Titus. I like what I'm seeing muchly. So too can I give you Tammy; I not only trust you there, but agree.In post 1917, fferyllt wrote:Titus and DV are god tier town to us atm. So is Tammy.
But I just cannot.
CanNOT.
See DV as town. The very post you cited (or was it Tammy, doesn't matter) as being town is so choked full ofwrongnessthat it alone would be enough. Given the rest of what I've seen...this just feels like Tales-DV to me.
Bulba-pass has been upgraded to full-on Bulba townread. What he's doing is just town. Shadow I'm not touching because of GreyICE mainly I admit.Why are you not touching Shadoweh? Why are you giving Bulba a pass?
Singer is scum. UT *might* be, but probably isn't.What are your thoughts about the UT/Singer interactions?My academy.
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