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RQS (Or QS) isn't my style and to be honest I really don't like it. It's just people making noise and either town or scum can tell the truth and not have to worry about towntelling. That and I am not reading useless walls of fluff page one. Nope.
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Post #23 (isolation #1) » Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:28 am
Postby Maverick1102 »
You aren't asked to regurgitate useless, NAI details such as your favourite film or icecream or whatever. Rather, we get an early indication of how people react under pressure (especially when wagoned) which is vital for spurring on discussion. That's why I think RVS is far, far superior to getting D1 underway than RQS.
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Post #29 (isolation #4) » Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:59 am
Postby Maverick1102 »
To be fair, Innocent's first question is an okay one. I'm GMT+0 and because I'm a seasonal worker I'm at work every day of the week barring sunday, which is the day that I sleep all day to recover after my saturday shift(s).
Activity levels? It varies but usually between 1800-2100 GMT daily barring weekends.
In post 32, reso wrote:Another considerably-more-hare-brained meta reason RQS is that it would allow veteran players to gauge a newer player's attitude and playstyle. It's too meta and inconsistent to actually be called a legitimate reason, but the possibility exists.
Yea this is what I use it for. For example your list of pizza toppings tells me a whole lot about you than I would normally have to guess. A lot of scumhunting has to do with understanding perspectives of where a person is coming from
I apologize I can only check in quick here. More in 6-8 hours
So if I tell you my favourite pizza is Hawaiian, how does that affect how you read me?
Because honestly, I strongly feel this is fluff and distraction. Same from IV.
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Post #58 (isolation #6) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 7:28 am
Postby Maverick1102 »
IV, people can change their own meta if they're aware of it (as hiplop is). I would never teach newbies to follow that kind of information and I think your vote is there for either misplaced reasons or I haven't fully understood them.
Could you clarify? Is your vote based on Hiplop's self-meta?
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Post #88 (isolation #9) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 7:54 am
Postby Maverick1102 »
To be honest I haven't seen any associative tells and given that people are using them without a flip - I'm inclined to think scum is on your wagon. Will catch-up and pursue this in an hour when I'm not phoneposting and skimming.
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Post #166 (isolation #15) » Fri Jul 22, 2016 8:23 am
Postby Maverick1102 »
Cobalt is hilariously hard to read as a result. If he had any conviction in his vote he wouldn't have reacted in the way he did which makes me question the wisdom of voting to L-1 in the first place.
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Post #219 (isolation #17) » Fri Jul 22, 2016 8:24 pm
Postby Maverick1102 »
I'm still wondering why there isn't more focus on Cobalt for trying to quietly push through a quickhammer and then, when it got fluffed up by an invalid vote, itrying to salvage it and score townpoints.
Cobalt, what were your reasons for putting Inno to L-1 in your #89? If people are really going to berate and even vote me for 'not explaining my vote' or whatever (I have) then they should also have reacted far, far more angrily to the hammer-that-never-was earlier.
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Post #253 (isolation #19) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 1:01 am
Postby Maverick1102 »
0x40 stop tunnelling it's very distracting.
Neither of the 'slips' are slips, because they're both examples and not outright statements in the course of open play. Don't be so absurdly tunnelly.
Cobalt is at
L-1
by the way guys, and so if someone fancies declaring intent to hammer that'd be great. We've caught scum stop faffing about with ill-concieved conjecture.
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Post #272 (isolation #21) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 2:36 am
Postby Maverick1102 »
Reso, if you spell InnocentVillager's name, the word 'Inno' is an easy way to shorten it. Don't try to misrepresent what I'm saying.
I'm getting rather sick of the double standards in this game.
Cobalt puts someone at L-1, doesn't draw attention to it hoping someone will hammer and it very (very) nearly works but for a fluffed vote and a technicality in the rules.
I put someone at L-2, I draw attention to when it progresses to L-1 and I ask for intent to hammer and all of a sudden I'm scum?
Cobalt quickly backtracks (having no conviction in his vote-SCUM) and looks to earn townpoints by looking about for ways to not have the hammer apply (eventually settling on the same rule quote I do) and somehow succeeds.
I vote a legitimate scumread, ask for more votes, ask for intent to hammer and a claim and yet somehow I'm scummy for it?
If anybody thinks scum isn't on my wagon (cough COBALT cough) then you seriously need to walk away, give your head a wobble to make sure it's screwed on, then return to the game and vote for Cobalt. I'm seriously getting frustrated that scum is pulling so hard on town's strings here.
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Post #274 (isolation #23) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 2:39 am
Postby Maverick1102 »
In post 256, RyanK wrote:Welcome back to my scumdar, maverick. You've played for months now and you still don't know that hammering someone means the end of the day? We've still got 230 hours and we're going to waste that just to hammer PhantomCobalt? VOTE: maverick1102
I would much rather lynch scum now than gift them the chance to talk their way out of it. Putting off a hammer because 'ooh there's plenty of time left' is weak at best.
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Post #277 (isolation #24) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 2:48 am
Postby Maverick1102 »
I love the way Reso's #261 is focused almost entirely on IV and RyanK and yet the vote went on me for another hilariously weak reason.
Ninja'd: I'm fairly convinced. I'd be surprised if he flipped town. I was kinda sure earlier in the day but the last few posts and then jumping on the easiest wagon he can to push through a mislynch convinces me that my vote is in the right place.
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Post #369 (isolation #31) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 7:27 am
Postby Maverick1102 »
That's a wild switch. Ryan why have you gone from seemingly scumreading Cobalt in your #350 and pushing on him, to suddenly scumreading me for calling for votes on my #1 scumread which I have held ALL DAY and explained at least once in full.
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Post #371 (isolation #32) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 8:04 am
Postby Maverick1102 »
In post 219, Maverick1102 wrote:I'm still wondering why there isn't more focus on Cobalt for trying to quietly push through a quickhammer and then, when it got fluffed up by an invalid vote, itrying to salvage it and score townpoints.
Cobalt, what were your reasons for putting Inno to L-1 in your #89? If people are really going to berate and even vote me for 'not explaining my vote' or whatever (I have) then they should also have reacted far, far more angrily to the hammer-that-never-was earlier.
In post 272, Maverick1102 wrote:Reso, if you spell InnocentVillager's name, the word 'Inno' is an easy way to shorten it. Don't try to misrepresent what I'm saying.
I'm getting rather sick of the double standards in this game.
Cobalt puts someone at L-1, doesn't draw attention to it hoping someone will hammer and it very (very) nearly works but for a fluffed vote and a technicality in the rules.
I put someone at L-2, I draw attention to when it progresses to L-1 and I ask for intent to hammer and all of a sudden I'm scum?
Cobalt quickly backtracks (having no conviction in his vote-SCUM) and looks to earn townpoints by looking about for ways to not have the hammer apply (eventually settling on the same rule quote I do) and somehow succeeds.
I vote a legitimate scumread, ask for more votes, ask for intent to hammer and a claim and yet somehow I'm scummy for it?
If anybody thinks scum isn't on my wagon (cough COBALT cough) then you seriously need to walk away, give your head a wobble to make sure it's screwed on, then return to the game and vote for Cobalt. I'm seriously getting frustrated that scum is pulling so hard on town's strings here.
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Post #408 (isolation #38) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 7:29 am
Postby Maverick1102 »
Given that you're currently pushing on the slot based on the fact that he replaced out tells me you're fishing for anything to jump onto. I want you gone from the game now.
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Post #419 (isolation #42) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 8:26 am
Postby Maverick1102 »
The point was you tried to undermine my argument by altering a quotation of your own post. Now that I've brought to attention the fact that you misquoted yourself you're backtracking, Cobalt.
In post 419, Maverick1102 wrote:The point was you tried to undermine my argument by altering a quotation of your own post. Now that I've brought to attention the fact that you misquoted yourself you're backtracking, Cobalt.
You're the one misrepresenting me saying that I had 5-6 scumreads when I posted my rusty case
In post 410, Maverick1102 wrote:A quickhammer that you set up.
You've jumped on most half wagons today.
PoE? Your last readslist had 5 or 6 scumreads!
SCUM!
I was talking retrospectively about your last readlist and you're misrepresenting it. You've dropped and hopped onto fresh wagons opportunistically before, (remember the wagon on me that ended before it began that Cobalt jumped on without reason, anyone?) reasonable to assume your reads don't fluctuate much between votes...
L-1 now so once again get an intent to hammer from someone? Let's lynch scum D1 come on.
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Post #440 (isolation #46) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 10:15 am
Postby Maverick1102 »
Nope. I'll decide when I reread the game carefully in the night after you flip scum. I'm half-tempted to go for RyanK but like I say, a careful re-read after your lynch will decide, not your PoE and I refuse to engage you in this lest you distract me from your partner with WIFOM.
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Post #454 (isolation #48) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:33 am
Postby Maverick1102 »
The fact that he's played so scummy for so long and had a wagon dissolve on him already (with this one taking time to gain traction) also suggests to me that we have scum.
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Post #459 (isolation #49) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 8:55 pm
Postby Maverick1102 »
Waaaaaall of text. Okay yeah I'll read that when I have time but you votecounts are off - Hiplop was also on the cobalt wagon if memory serves have a look.
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Post #495 (isolation #51) » Fri Jul 29, 2016 12:51 am
Postby Maverick1102 »
I'll shorten Reso's argument for you all:
I don't like Ox40 tunnelling on people who I thought at that point were town, but I'd be more than happy if they were to tunnel on my scumread. I'm strong in how I approach my case about my scumread, I push hard and apparently I'm unco-operative with town? I hardly agree.
But the reasoning behind the quote is such a bad misrepresentation. The point was that Cobalt had no conviction in his vote, and worried that he'd be accused of scumhood for allowing a quickhammer to happen (townpoints for IV for this btw) quickly backtracked to look like he'd valiantly tried to save the day. That they settled on the same rule that I did is a moot point, I was simply recalling the events for people. (You know, that whole co-operating with town thing).
That is such a forced vote and the fact that you give yourself a disclaimer at the start of that 'this isn't a scum list' reeks.
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Post #589 (isolation #54) » Mon Aug 01, 2016 9:15 am
Postby Maverick1102 »
As much as I don't want to indulge in WIFOM, I'd say that 0x40's death makes it less likely to Vax to be scum. I'm going to go ahead and remove him from my list of potential scum. I really don't know what to make of Ryan. It looks like overeager newbtown but at the same time I can't ignore the shift from him placing the hammer vote and voting me for causing a mislynch. It's very forced.
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Post #613 (isolation #56) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 5:50 am
Postby Maverick1102 »
Upon a quick re-read I suppose my vote is going to go on Ryan or Vedith. I kinda want Ryan because his posts are difficult to get a read on but the hypocritical nature of Vedith's vote on Hiplop earns my vote for today for the time being. Vedith says he doesn't want a hammer yet (intent is fine) but is voting Hiplop who basically implied the same thing in my eyes.
VOTE: Vedith
Ninja'd: I'd have to go through more analysis of X40's posts and reads but that's a wiiiiide road of WIFOM. I think the best way to approach it is look at it as a random kill. I'm awful at NKA and would rather do without it than become entrenched in a WIFOM-y back-and-forth.
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Post #615 (isolation #57) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 6:14 am
Postby Maverick1102 »
Scum has to be on the Hiplop wagon, since it wasn't a player off the wagon who disrupted it and there was no counterwagon. As such, I'm looking at one of you, Ryan or Vax for scum.
I don't think Vax would have killed his tunneller and I townread him off mostly gut anyway so between you and Ryan I think one of you is scum. Ryan at the end of it all looks like (hilariously) overeager town so I come to you. You voted for hiplop and welcomed intent to hammer on the same basis that he voted for Cobalt. There is no credible reasoning for why your vote is there since you're voting hypocritically which simply isn't something Town!Vedith would do.
Hiplop did say he was going to post between 1-3 times a day. Just because it appears inactive, doesn't mean he's lying. If you go off RL days that we've been in the day phase, he's actually pretty much in that average. There is no case to answer to on Hiplop and I don't see an unposted meta analysis to be all that indicative of alignment.
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