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Post Post #1025 (isolation #200) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:41 pm

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In post 1023, RadiantCowbells wrote:Formerfish I refuse to look at at this time but it'd probably be Moogin.

I don't read TierShift as scum.
Okie doke, good enough for me.

VOTE: Moogin

Because I don't think the Jack wagon was all town.
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Post Post #1028 (isolation #201) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:09 pm

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In post 1026, RadiantCowbells wrote:Wasn't she your top townread at one point? :igmeou:
Aren't you the one that always tells me how shit my reads are?

So, I'm trying something new.

I suspect there was scum on the d1 wagon. Since you attempting to save town!Jack as scum doesn't make any sense at all, that left Moogin, Tier, and fish.

You said Moogin is the scummiest of the three.

Ergo, I voted Moogin.
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Post Post #1029 (isolation #202) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:27 pm

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In post 1027, RadiantCowbells wrote:Like I'm sorry but your read on me is so, so, SO shit. I'm town UNLESS I magically chose to MASTER PLAN! fakehammer my partner in order to get the wagon off them.
I would do that as town or scum. What reason do you have to think that I'm town here or is it just the Toto thing? And why would I suddenly become scum even if I did derail a scum wagon? c'mon that's shit.
Like, I'm not the only one that said Jack flipping town makes you most likely town.

I was townreading your slot because of Toto, but these chuckleheads needed something more "in your face" to see what was painfully clear to me.
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Post Post #1033 (isolation #203) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:39 pm

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In post 1030, RadiantCowbells wrote:Alright fine. I'm willing to townread you for today.

I still think Pepcho is the most likely lynch to hit scum tho.
That may be, but I don't want to lynch the guy before he even has a chance to post.
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Post Post #1035 (isolation #204) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:41 pm

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In post 904, -Grey- wrote:Jack!Town makes RC!Scum impossible, and I will never vote there.
More likely to vote Pepto in that case
Just because I'm wanting to lynch him today doesn't mean I want to do so before he can even claim.
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Post Post #1037 (isolation #205) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:42 pm

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Yes huh.
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Post Post #1040 (isolation #206) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:54 pm

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Lol I was like, "Who dat is?" :lol:
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Post Post #1041 (isolation #207) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:58 pm

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Jin's entire ISO is shitposting.

How did you townread that?
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Post Post #1045 (isolation #208) » Sun Jan 29, 2017 1:52 am

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In post 1044, TierShift wrote:Why moogin scum?
More likely than you or fish.
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Post Post #1048 (isolation #209) » Sun Jan 29, 2017 2:57 am

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In post 481, MooginSoosy wrote:I'm working on that TS post by the way, I'm just at work so it'll be slow moving.
Did you ever get around to this?
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Post Post #1053 (isolation #210) » Sun Jan 29, 2017 7:21 pm

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Fykus, what would you say if I told you that I'm starting to townread you?
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Post Post #1055 (isolation #211) » Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:12 pm

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I have no idea why you would assume jailkeeper over doctor, but it's an interesting theory.
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Post Post #1057 (isolation #212) » Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:18 pm

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Scum does not skip the night kill in the newbie queue

There is no mechanical advantage for it. Scum needs all the town death they can get.

The NK nines prevented, one way or the other.
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Post Post #1058 (isolation #213) » Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:19 pm

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NK was*
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Post Post #1059 (isolation #214) » Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:20 pm

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If the NK was prevented due to jailer, the jailer doesn't know whether they jailed scum or the target.
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Post Post #1064 (isolation #215) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:43 am

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Hi Colleen, what's it feel like to replace into a caught scum slot?
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Post Post #1065 (isolation #216) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:44 am

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In post 1064, -Grey- wrote:Hi
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Ville, what's it feel like to replace into a caught scum slot?
FU autocorrect, idk how it even got that name from Ville.
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Post Post #1068 (isolation #217) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:49 am

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In post 1067, Ville wrote:
In post 1064, -Grey- wrote:Hi
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-Grey-, what's it feel like to play as scum?
I don't care for the alignment.

You?
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Post Post #1070 (isolation #218) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:54 am

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In post 1069, Ville wrote:
In post 1068, -Grey- wrote:
In post 1067, Ville wrote:
In post 1064, -Grey- wrote:Hi
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-Grey-, what's it feel like to play as scum?
I don't care for the alignment.

You?
I don't know what you're trying to get out of me...
Trying to set up the whole town against me so you don't have to kill all players?
Damn, you got me.
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Post Post #1071 (isolation #219) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:56 am

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Hey Ville...

I wasn't kidding about your slot being caught scum.

VOTE: Ville

Just go ahead and out your partner so we can call it a day.
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Post Post #1073 (isolation #220) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:06 am

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Lolol.
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Post Post #1074 (isolation #221) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:07 am

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Your team wasn't able to make the kill last night, buddy.

Looks to me like you just scumclaimed.
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Post Post #1076 (isolation #222) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:26 am

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You really should read the game before jumping in.

You haven't done yourself any favors at all.
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Post Post #1077 (isolation #223) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:57 am

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So, here's the situation.

Fish soft-claimed PR yesterday.

There was no kill last night.

So, either Fish was protected, or he was bulletproof.

Either way, Ville can't be a PR asking for protection and still be town.
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Post Post #1078 (isolation #224) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:04 am

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Sorry Ville, but I'm not going to let you fish out our other PR before you hang.

Nice try, but in the future you should read the game before participating, lol.
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Post Post #1081 (isolation #225) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:03 am

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nydus, what do you not understand about 1077?
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Post Post #1083 (isolation #226) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:37 am

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In post 1082, nydushermain wrote:Or fish wasn't even targeted. I'm presenting possibilities, not absolutes
Somebody was. A kill was still stopped.

The only claim that would have made any sense from Ville would have been a protective role. Him claiming investigative is just to fish for a counter before he dies.
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Post Post #1091 (isolation #227) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:53 am

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Moogin cc'ed.
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Post Post #1094 (isolation #228) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:55 am

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Doesn't matter.

We Lynch Ville. If he flips town, we lynch Moogin.

You know this.
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Post Post #1097 (isolation #229) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:59 am

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No, scum does not know. They just know the kill was blocked.
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Post Post #1099 (isolation #230) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:00 am

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In post 1096, MooginSoosy wrote:Is there a way in the future to just...not cc? It seems so lazy to do that but I didn't want Ville to get away with the fake claim.
Yeah, you vote and push back regardless of the claim.
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Post Post #1101 (isolation #231) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:02 am

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In post 1100, RadiantCowbells wrote:Also would like to point out that Pep's partner is PROBABLY someone experienced given the tracker claim.
And when did this guy have a chance to be coached?
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Post Post #1105 (isolation #232) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:13 am

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In post 1103, RadiantCowbells wrote:Your play also only made sense in the context of a PR claim; I thought you had some sort of result on me that justified confclearing me. Without that your play just doesn't cut it.
I had a result on you?

On day one?

In a newbie game?

You seriously thought that?

Get the fuck out of here.
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Post Post #1107 (isolation #233) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:15 am

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In post 1102, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'm guessing that in dead thread partner said to PepCho immediately claim tracker if you get wagoned.

I think Grey is last scum.
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Post Post #1108 (isolation #234) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:15 am

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In post 1106, RadiantCowbells wrote:Faaaaaaaake.
YOU ARE CLAIMING THAT YOU THOUGHT I HAD RESULTS ON DAY ONE IN THE NEWBIE QUITE WHERE IT IS LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE RESULTS ON DAY ONE
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Post Post #1111 (isolation #235) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:20 am

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In post 1109, RadiantCowbells wrote:Grey!Cop on me.
Grey!Jailkeeper on me.

Yeah, I would expect to be townread and that's a great way of softing.
NOT ON DAY ONE
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Post Post #1115 (isolation #236) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:24 am

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In post 1110, RadiantCowbells wrote:I mean I even said that I thought you were softing and that's the reason I was ignoring your slot and you didn't say anything when I wasn't calling you scum.
I crumb PR as VT to fish the nk.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=69444

Or I just outright fake counterclaim (Open 661).

This is nothing new.
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Post Post #1117 (isolation #237) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:26 am

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In post 1103, RadiantCowbells wrote:I thought you had some sort of result on me that justified confclearing me.
This is MECHANICALLY IMPOSSIBLE considering night one is the first opportunity to use roles.

You're fucking scum. :lol:
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Post Post #1121 (isolation #238) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:52 am

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In post 1119, MooginSoosy wrote:I jailed nydushermain the first night
If fish still has his vest, we have our second member of scum.
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Post Post #1124 (isolation #239) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:54 am

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In post 1122, RadiantCowbells wrote:Fish doesn't know if he still has his vest and you fucking know that.
What I know is that 1-shot BP's are told when they lose vest.
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Post Post #1126 (isolation #240) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:58 am

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In post 1125, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 1124, -Grey- wrote:
In post 1122, RadiantCowbells wrote:Fish doesn't know if he still has his vest and you fucking know that.
What I know is that 1-shot BP's are told when they lose vest.
Scumclaim. game over.
Says the genius that thinks PR's get results on DAY FUCKING ONE
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Post Post #1128 (isolation #241) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:01 pm

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In post 1127, Fykus wrote:VOTE: grey

Sorry mate but for nlw my vote needs to sit here. I cant contribute much atm since im at work but ill look every now and then
If you're going to be an idiot, you fucking deserve to lose.
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Post Post #1132 (isolation #242) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:04 pm

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In post 1129, RadiantCowbells wrote:If they flip ROLEBLOCKER, ForemerFish conftown and I highly recommend blocking Grey.
If RB flips, I'm steamrolling your ass tomorrow.
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Post Post #1135 (isolation #243) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:11 pm

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In post 1130, Fykus wrote:VOTE: ville
Hammer vote.
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Post Post #1137 (isolation #244) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:13 pm

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In post 1136, Fykus wrote:What do you mean? Ville wasnt l-1 were they?
Tier
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Post Post #1138 (isolation #245) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:13 pm

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Oh wait, Moogin is on there somewhere.
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Post Post #1142 (isolation #246) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:20 pm

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In post 1139, RadiantCowbells wrote:If this flips GOON then either FORMERFISH IS GOON or REMIANING SCUM IS A ROLEBLOCKER. Your JAILKEEP is only relevant if it's targeted on FORMERFISH.
If this flips ROLEBLOCKER then FORMERFISH is CONFIRMED TOWN.
I'm trying to understand your theory, here.

How does the flip indicate ff's alignment?

Why would we not jail nydus again?
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Post Post #1144 (isolation #247) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:25 pm

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FF claiming PR but not specifying which is typical BP play, and he did that on d1 so I believe he's the BP and Moogin is JK.

Whoever gets jailed tonight will be conftown when Moogin dies.

Yeah. Jail me. It's the only way I'll ever be NK'ed.
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Post Post #1145 (isolation #248) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:26 pm

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In post 1143, RadiantCowbells wrote:Grey is literally confirmed scum right now. He understands how the game works, he is just trying to sneak a bad jailkeep through.
Pay close attention.

Go fuck yourself.
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Post Post #1147 (isolation #249) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:27 pm

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No fuck that.

Jail me regardless and let this prick easy his words tomorrow.
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Post Post #1148 (isolation #250) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:28 pm

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Eat*
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Post Post #1150 (isolation #251) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:30 pm

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RC is talking like he knows the flip will be Goon.

Jail me anyway. RC is scum and I'm the only one here with the balls to take him on.
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Post Post #1151 (isolation #252) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:31 pm

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In post 1149, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 1146, RadiantCowbells wrote:Only jail him if the flip is
Mafia Roleblocker

If the flip is
Mafia Goon
, you are roleblocking FormerFish.
You are listening to me because if there is a GOON flip jailblocking GREY is literally confirmed irrelevant based on the continuing existence of a roleblocker.

Grey trying to fight this is tantamount to a scumclaim.
^ THIS IS SCUM BULLSHIT BECAUSE I'LL BE CONFIRMED TOWN TOMORROW IF YOU JUST JAIL ME TONIGHT.
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Post Post #1153 (isolation #253) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:33 pm

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To hell with RC's bullshit scum manipulation.

Jail me tonight and I'll lynch the shit out of him tomorrow.
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Post Post #1155 (isolation #254) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:37 pm

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Jailing me regardless of goon/RB does not in any way allow me to deceive town and RC is a lying scumfuck.
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Post Post #1157 (isolation #255) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:40 pm

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RC doesn't want me jailed because he wants to try and mislynch me tomorrow but he can't do that when I'm confirmed town.

Jail.

Me.
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Post Post #1159 (isolation #256) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:41 pm

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In post 1156, RadiantCowbells wrote:You realize that TierShift can also correct your bullshit logic and no one in this game believes that you are stupid enough to not realize that you are making a mistake?
Don't bother talking to me, Mr. "PR's get results on day one".
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Post Post #1170 (isolation #257) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:32 pm

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RC one that and made the Jailkeeper target you so he could send Fykus to kill her without worry of him getting blocked.

Look at the timing of those votes. They're trying for a quicklynch right out the gate.
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Post Post #1171 (isolation #258) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:34 pm

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Oh, Ville flipped scum.

Lynch me idc. But look at that quicklynch bullshit tomorrow because there's scum reaching for the finish line.
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Post Post #1174 (isolation #259) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:36 pm

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You're full of shit.

I'm in eight games. This one had been closed for two fucking days and my memory is for shit.

I'm getting tired of you always saying that.
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Post Post #1176 (isolation #260) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:41 pm

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I don't really care.

No interest in bothering with a game where people are just going to head smash keyboard vote me.
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Post Post #1178 (isolation #261) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:42 pm

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Have fun.
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Post Post #1194 (isolation #262) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:17 pm

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In post 1186, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 1076, -Grey- wrote:You really should read the game before jumping in.

You haven't done yourself any favors at all.

WAIT A FUCKING MINUTE

What if this is Grey telling his partner to check SCUM TOPIC where he told them to CLAIM TRACKER?
WAIT A FUCKING MINUTE

Why would I feed my partner to the wolves right out of the gate?
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Post Post #1196 (isolation #263) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:20 pm

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In post 1195, RadiantCowbells wrote:bussing him
This is scum's! RC.

Lynch him tomorrow, because there is no way in hell he says this as town.

He knows for a fact that I don't bus.
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Post Post #1197 (isolation #264) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:21 pm

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In post 1195, RadiantCowbells wrote:Besides, contrary to my claims when we were scumpartners I know better than to think that you never bus
Feel free to point out where I have ever bussed
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Post Post #1198 (isolation #265) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:23 pm

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In post 1189, Formerfish wrote:How do you ISO two people in one thread?
Scroll to the bottom of the thread.

You're welcome.
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Post Post #1200 (isolation #266) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:25 pm

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Here's the thing, RC... I DON'T FUCKING CARE IF YOU GET ME LYNCHED today, because you doing so will prove that I'm telling the truth when I flip green and show you to be the lying scumfuck that you are.
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Post Post #1201 (isolation #267) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:27 pm

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Anybody on this site can read my post games and see for themselves that I DON'T BUS AND HAVE NEVER, EVER BUSSED.

That's what makes you scum.
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Post Post #1202 (isolation #268) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:27 pm

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Past* games.
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Post Post #1205 (isolation #269) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:31 pm

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In post 1196, -Grey- wrote:
In post 1195, RadiantCowbells wrote:bussing him
This is scum!RC.

Lynch him tomorrow, because there is no way in hell he says this as town.

He knows for a fact that I don't bus.
This is all I have to say for the test of the day.

Go ahead and lynch me, idc, because my green flip will just show that this post right here is true.
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Post Post #1206 (isolation #270) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:39 pm

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In post 1199, RadiantCowbells wrote:And besides, if you genuinely believe that I genuinely believe that you never bus the exact optimal play is to hard bus and coast on me townreading you for it!
Sure, I'm going to burn down my entire belief system about bussing being shit play for scum just to win one newbie game. :roll:

That's the problem with scum. No long-range planning. Sufficient for the day is its worries, eh RC?
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Post Post #1207 (isolation #271) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:43 pm

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Giggles said it best.
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Post Post #1208 (isolation #272) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:46 pm

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I'm going down with my vote on scum.

VOTE: RC

If town fucks this game up and loses after I flip green, I don't want a fucking soul to dare trying to lay any of the blame for the loss at my feet.
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Post Post #1210 (isolation #273) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:50 pm

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You're lying about my entire playstyle just to get me lynched.

You need to die tomorrow. My flip condemns you.
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Post Post #1212 (isolation #274) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:52 pm

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In post 1187, RadiantCowbells wrote:I am going to lynch Grey today, period. We can decide between Fykus and TS tomorrow.
He knows I'm flipping town!
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Post Post #1213 (isolation #275) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:54 pm

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In post 1177, RadiantCowbells wrote:Okay. Well your slot is getting lynched and I feel pretty confident that if you're not scum we'll solve the game anyway.
In post 1209, RadiantCowbells wrote:I believe that I would be fully justified in doing so, assuming that you end up flipping town.
Tier. Fish.

I know that you two should be able to see the scumclaim here.
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Post Post #1214 (isolation #276) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:56 pm

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In post 1211, Fykus wrote:Remember when you said to me and jack that saying this sorta thing is scummy? The ironing is delicious.
I don't recall either one of you having a line on scum that your flip would lead to, so no there's no parallel.
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Post Post #1217 (isolation #277) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:59 pm

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In post 1216, Fykus wrote:If you flip town how many more days to lylo?
Tomorrow will be MyLo.

If you NL, the day after would be LyLo.
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Post Post #1219 (isolation #278) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:05 pm

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In post 1218, Fykus wrote:Ok so you today rc tomorrow if its not gg
Stick with that and I can RIP.
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Post Post #1220 (isolation #279) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:08 pm

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Post Post #1222 (isolation #280) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:14 pm

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Nope.

If the experienced town wants to do the right thing and vote scum before mislynch me, I'm not going to discourage that.
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Post Post #1224 (isolation #281) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:01 pm

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In post 1223, Fykus wrote:Maybe ts has another concussion
Dude that's just rude.

Don't drag RL issues into the game to shade somebody.
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Post Post #1226 (isolation #282) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:09 pm

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Say whatever the fuck you want about me, RC.

All these posts I'm making are going to destroy you when I flip green.
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Post Post #1228 (isolation #283) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:12 pm

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Your false bravado is meaningless.
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Post Post #1232 (isolation #284) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:46 pm

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In post 1230, Fykus wrote:I wish moogs was still around. Atleast she was active
In post 1231, Fykus wrote:Whyd you have to kill her grey
This is straight up bullshit because she wasn't even in the top five highest posts.
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Post Post #1233 (isolation #285) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:48 pm

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Hey RC... wanna postpone our 1v1 and lynch Fykus?
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Post Post #1235 (isolation #286) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:59 pm

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VOTE: Fykus

The enemy of my enemy is my friend...
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Post Post #1237 (isolation #287) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:26 pm

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RC, in my viewpoint, scum has to be either you or Fykus.

In yours, it has to be either Fykus or me.

The logical choice here is to lynch the common denominator in our scumreads.

If you're actually town and I'm lynched today, you'll look like shit tomorrow after I flip green because you misrepresented my meta.

Frankly, I'm sure you'll probably win in a 1v1 against me in MyLo... but I don't think it'll come to that if we lynch Fykus today.
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Post Post #1240 (isolation #288) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:40 pm

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Lol scum reaction.

Yep, lynch this.
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Post Post #1241 (isolation #289) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:44 pm

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In post 1239, Fykus wrote:Are you two retarded?
If Fykus was town that was scumreading me, he would have appealed to RC by claiming I was pushing an agenda.

But his reaction insults BOTH our intelligence, which means his scumread on me is fabricated.
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Post Post #1243 (isolation #290) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:49 pm

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In post 1242, RadiantCowbells wrote:I mean I fully understand the viewpoint of wait these fucks said each other were both confirmed scum why are they suddenly voting me: but that isn't necessarily town indicative.
If he sees me as scum, how does he think I'm retarded if diverting a wagon off myself, the last member of the scumteam (in his eyes), and onto him?
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Post Post #1245 (isolation #291) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:52 pm

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In post 1244, RadiantCowbells wrote:Because he's not calling you retarded he's calling the situation retarded. Two people sitting there calling each other confirmed scum then suddenly voting him would feel pretty retarded.
Nah.

Looks to me like he called both of us retarded.

"Are you two retarded" = calling two people retarded.

"This is retarded" = calling a situation retarded.
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Post Post #1253 (isolation #292) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:37 pm

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In post 1250, RadiantCowbells wrote:HOLY FUCK YOU MIGHT BE TOWN GREY
INORITE?

U2!
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Post Post #1254 (isolation #293) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:39 pm

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In post 1251, Formerfish wrote:I want to lynch Grey here. I think that RC was on to something with the "go to the scum thread, idiot" post he postulates.

Also, this would allow me to say I told you so twice this game if Jin turns out to be scum. I'll probably die tonight, so good luck guys.

VOTE: Grey
One scum left.

Fish votes me...

... then assumes he'll die tonight.

Just wow.
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Post Post #1256 (isolation #294) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:47 pm

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In post 1255, Formerfish wrote:Why is that a wow? I am the last actual conftown. Why would scum leave me alive?
Because you're voting me even though you obviously don't believe I'm scum.
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Post Post #1262 (isolation #295) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:56 pm

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In post 1259, Formerfish wrote:Thats an interesting way to say i dont trust you to pull this off if it comes down to me.
To be fair, you ARE speculating on being NK'ed while voting for the last sum in the game, so...
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Post Post #1263 (isolation #296) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:56 pm

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scum*
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Post Post #1268 (isolation #297) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:02 pm

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In post 1266, Formerfish wrote:No, but I would like to go for grey first because i think that if it were to be fykus that whichever of us he doesnt kill will be able to sniff him out. And don't discount the idea that it could be Tier too.
RC already posted proof that shows Fykus is scum.

The only thing he can say about me is speculation.

Y'know, because I'm town.
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Post Post #1271 (isolation #298) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:09 pm

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In post 1270, Formerfish wrote:What's the proof?
Look at d2.

He spent the day dodging his buddy until he laid down a naked vote to hammer him... which he didn't even realize he was doing.

Between that and the associatives with Pepcho, Fykus is obviously the scum buddy.
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Post Post #1272 (isolation #299) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:10 pm

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In post 1130, Fykus wrote:VOTE: ville
In post 1136, Fykus wrote:What do you mean? Ville wasnt l-1 were they?
This is everywhere he mentioned Ville in his ISO.
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Post Post #1273 (isolation #300) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:13 pm

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In post 1221, Fykus wrote:Should vote for yourself as a show of good faith
WHAT TOWN THINKS LIKE THIS?
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Post Post #1275 (isolation #301) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:16 pm

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Idiot.
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Post Post #1277 (isolation #302) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:19 pm

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Oh, I'm sorry. Did you expect a pat on the back for wanting to mislynch me, then?
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Post Post #1280 (isolation #303) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:23 pm

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In post 1278, Formerfish wrote:I dunno, I guess to expect anything other than a fucking prick would have been wishful thinking.

But please continue to call me names. Really makes me wanna work with you. YOU KNOW, CONSIDERING IM FUCKING CONFTOWN HERE BRO.
CONFTOWN DOES NOT CONFER OMNISCIENCE BRO
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Post Post #1281 (isolation #304) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:25 pm

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In post 1278, Formerfish wrote:Really makes me wanna work with you.
You wanting me dead doesn't exactly make me want to work with you, either.

Pot, meet kettle.
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Post Post #1283 (isolation #305) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:33 pm

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.I did, but you decided to be a lazy, useless ass and discard everything I had to say because it wasn't spoon-fed to you and actually required a little research.
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Post Post #1292 (isolation #306) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:43 pm

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In post 1289, TierShift wrote:I don't get why anyone thinks grey powerbussed?
Hallelujah, a voice of reason amidst the chaos.
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Post Post #1295 (isolation #307) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:49 pm

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In post 1294, Formerfish wrote:
In post 547, -Grey- wrote:
In post 130, Formerfish wrote:I kinda want to hang one of the replacements simply for the fact that more often than not replace outs in newbie games are scum.
False. Replacing out is NAI.

It's a shady move to suggest lynching someone because of something they have no control over.
Told you I'd find this.
You haven't found anything except proud that I'm right.

Replacing out is NAI. It's a retarded excuse to lynch someone.
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Post Post #1296 (isolation #308) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:49 pm

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In post 1295, -Grey- wrote:
In post 1294, Formerfish wrote:
In post 547, -Grey- wrote:
In post 130, Formerfish wrote:I kinda want to hang one of the replacements simply for the fact that more often than not replace outs in newbie games are scum.
False. Replacing out is NAI.

It's a shady move to suggest lynching someone because of something they have no control over.
Told you I'd find this.
You haven't found anything except proof that I'm right.

Replacing out is NAI. It's a retarded excuse to lynch someone.
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Post Post #1298 (isolation #309) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:51 pm

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In post 1297, RadiantCowbells wrote:And TS, do you not find it sketchy that Grey only jumped on the slot as soon as there was a replacement?
That's bullshit dude. If I'd have tried to lynch it before the replacement, you'd have criticized me for attacking an empty slot.
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Post Post #1300 (isolation #310) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:52 pm

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OR IS IT TOWN TO LYNCH EMPTY SLOTS NOW?
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In post 1299, Formerfish wrote:Grey, there is a stat that says newbies who replace out have a high chance of being scum. It's a fucking fact man. You may not agree with the practice, but you can't disagree with the stat itself.

And it ended up being fucking right didn't it? You were so ready to dissuade me or anyone else from that line of thinking.
I don't give a fuck what you have to say. All your bullshit isn't going to change the color of my role pm.

It's a lazy, retarded ass excuse to scumread somebody, end of story.
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In post 1300, -Grey- wrote:OR IS IT TOWN TO LYNCH EMPTY SLOTS NOW?
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Post Post #1304 (isolation #313) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:54 pm

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(Psst: The answer is no)
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Post Post #1307 (isolation #314) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:58 pm

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In post 1306, Formerfish wrote:
In post 1301, -Grey- wrote:
In post 1299, Formerfish wrote:Grey, there is a stat that says newbies who replace out have a high chance of being scum. It's a fucking fact man. You may not agree with the practice, but you can't disagree with the stat itself.

And it ended up being fucking right didn't it? You were so ready to dissuade me or anyone else from that line of thinking.
I don't give a fuck what you have to say. All your bullshit isn't going to change the color of my role pm.

It's a lazy, retarded ass excuse to scumread somebody, end of story.
Awesome, then hang.
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Do me a favor and don't join any games I'm in in the future.
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Post Post #1309 (isolation #315) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:04 pm

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In post 1308, Formerfish wrote:Cool story bro. Sorry I didn't just fall in line with whatever you said and have independent ideas. But sure. I'll go fuck myself?
Wrong. You didn't have an independent idea.

You sheeped somebody else's idea. You don't get credit for that.

You're too fucking lazy to put in the work to read people, so you look for cheats, and to hell with anything that contradicts your easymode way of life.

So yes. Please do.
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Post Post #1311 (isolation #316) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:33 pm

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Funny how my supposed competence fluctuates with whatever agenda Fykus is trying to push.

"Killing the PR shows that scum is experienced! Grey is experienced!"

"Grey is confscum on d2!"

Apparently, my experience taught me to kill PR's, but didn't teach me not to be so obvious that noobs can't spot me d2.
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Post Post #1313 (isolation #317) » Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:11 am

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In post 1312, Fykus wrote:I didn't catch you being scum it was RC who did that. In the beginning it was your shitty attitude that rang alarm bells for me.
Right, because it's obvious that scum is going to be abrasive.

It's not like they'd get father in the game by appeasing town or anything.
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Post Post #1319 (isolation #318) » Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:46 am

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In post 1315, TierShift wrote:Grey you didn't answer my question as to who the last scum is: confscum fykus or confscum RC?
I'm gonna have to go with Door Number 1.
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Post Post #1333 (isolation #319) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:43 pm

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Lololol @ Fykus' drama
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Post Post #1335 (isolation #320) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:54 pm

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Squirm, scum. Squirm!
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Post Post #1337 (isolation #321) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:19 pm

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No fucking way does a noobtown look at my play yesterday and the way I hounded scum to the gates of hell and immediately think it's a bus.

Especially when I had plenty of reason to push Fykus left over from d1.

Fykus is invested in scumreading me. He's not trying to gamesolve at all.
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Post Post #1340 (isolation #322) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:25 pm

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^ I rest my case.
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Post Post #1341 (isolation #323) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:43 pm

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UNVOTE:
In post 1327, RadiantCowbells wrote:UNVOTE:

Now worried that Grey may not be as shoe in of a lynch as I thought it would be tomorrow. Makes me reluctant to lynch low priority Fykus and let Grey through.
Survivalist mindset.

This looks like scum that's reordering their priorities based on ease of lynch, not town that's hunting for most likely scum.

RC was happy to have my support in lynching Fykus today as long as he believed nydus would lynch me tomorrow. nydus townreading me threw a wrench in his plans.
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Post Post #1343 (isolation #324) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:48 pm

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What did he say that was objectively scummy?
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Post Post #1345 (isolation #325) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:55 pm

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nydus, response?
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Post Post #1347 (isolation #326) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:58 pm

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In post 1346, RadiantCowbells wrote:You are calling me out for keeping my options open and widening the lynchpool when that is precisely what Nydus is doing, albeit with the exception that he isn't pushing on you.
I'm questioning you both, if you can't tell.
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Post Post #1349 (isolation #327) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:24 pm

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In post 1348, TierShift wrote:
In post 1341, -Grey- wrote:Scum loves to keep their options open.
youre the only one actually doing this i hope you realise
Are you blind?

RC JUST threw
everybody
out of his town reads.

You aren't even committing to reads.
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Post Post #1352 (isolation #328) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:08 pm

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That's true.

If he was scum, he could have easily supported the Fykus/Grey combo lynch that everybody is rushing head first into.
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Post Post #1353 (isolation #329) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:10 pm

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I mean seriously, I'm like, the last person in the game that scum wants to pocket.
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Post Post #1354 (isolation #330) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:15 pm

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nydus, what do you think of the theory that the Tracker claim was coached?

If it was, Fykus is unlikely to be scum too.
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Post Post #1355 (isolation #331) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:19 pm

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In post 25, Fykus wrote:VOTE: TierShift

Partially cause he voted for me, and partially because i dont think there would be 2 inexperienced scums on their first game (thered be 1 experienced person there to guide the other newbie).
Tracker fakeclaim coaching doesn't come from somebody that posts this, lol.
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Post Post #1357 (isolation #332) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:23 pm

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Can't really theorize on coaching.

Pepto may have been active in the scumteam pt n1. If he was, he might have mentioned it.
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Post Post #1358 (isolation #333) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:27 pm

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In post 1356, RadiantCowbells wrote:Who says that he was coached to make that claim? Who says that they didn't just make it independently, which is what probably happened if you're town?
That claim did not come out of his mouth independently.

He hadn't done any reading of the past day whatsoever, which is how I caught him out.
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Post Post #1360 (isolation #334) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:34 pm

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RC, lynch Tier tomorrow.

The Jack wagon was not all town. No way in hell.
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Post Post #1362 (isolation #335) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:37 pm

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Look at the day 1 wagon.

Once I flip green, that makes Tier the only possible scum on the wagon, and there's no chance in hell it was 100% town.
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Post Post #1364 (isolation #336) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:39 pm

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In post 1361, RadiantCowbells wrote:defending as many people as possible.
I haven't defended Tier.
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Post Post #1367 (isolation #337) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:43 pm

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RC: Not scum because of fakehammer on town that disrupted a mislynch.

Nydus: Not scum because who the fuck wants to pocket me of all people when they could just go along with the proposed Fykus/Grey combo lynch

Fykus: Probably not scum because noob.

Tier: Scum on the d1 wagon that has been laying lower than a motherfucker and most likely coached the fake claim

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Post Post #1369 (isolation #338) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:44 pm

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VOTE: Tiershift

Going down voting scum.
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Post Post #1370 (isolation #339) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:47 pm

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In post 1365, nydushermain wrote:
In post 1354, -Grey- wrote:nydus, what do you think of the theory that the Tracker claim was coached?

If it was, Fykus is unlikely to be scum too.
I honestly haven't looked at it much. I feel like it's just a dumb thing to push on because it's just theory at this point. Can you link the quote specifically that makes ville and fykus unlikely to be partners if the tracker claim was coached?
I did. Post .

Somebody that thinks the scum team is strategically distributed obviously doesn't know enough about newbie games to coach an ideal fakeclaim.
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Post Post #1372 (isolation #340) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:07 pm

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Good man.

Now come on down to the Tiershift wagon!
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Post Post #1377 (isolation #341) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:10 pm

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L-1 btw
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Post Post #1379 (isolation #342) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:17 pm

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In post 1378, RadiantCowbells wrote:If scum is coaching scum that's not you then it's fucking Nydus it's not Tier
Why in the hell would scum!Nydus townread me when he had the game all tied up in a bow by simply agreeing to lynch me if Fykus flipped town?

That's nonsensical.

Lay out your Tiershift town case, because I ain't seeing it.
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Post Post #1381 (isolation #343) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:20 pm

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Look at Tier's ISO.

He can justify a vote on anybody!
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Post Post #1383 (isolation #344) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:20 pm

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In post 1380, RadiantCowbells wrote:no one is that fucking blase about scum play and you know it
That's bullshit.
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Post Post #1385 (isolation #345) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:31 pm

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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=58767

Tier apparently likes being blase scum in the newbie queue.
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Post Post #1387 (isolation #346) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:38 pm

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In post 1380, RadiantCowbells wrote:no one is that fucking blase about scum play and you know it
In post 1385, -Grey- wrote:http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=58767

Tier apparently likes being blase scum in the newbie queue.
In post 1380, RadiantCowbells wrote:no half decent player would take that easy way out without committing to anything. ever.
In post 1381, -Grey- wrote:Look at Tier's ISO.

He can justify a vote on anybody!
In post 1379, -Grey- wrote:Lay out your Tiershift town case, because I ain't seeing it.
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Post Post #1388 (isolation #347) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:39 pm

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In post 1386, RadiantCowbells wrote:this game and that look nothing alike and are 2 years apart.
Doesn't matter the timestamps. He's blase as hell in that game.

Idk what kind of love you for for the guy, but he's scum.
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Post Post #1389 (isolation #348) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:42 pm

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Also, that link was the most recent completed game I could find where he was scum in the newbie queue.
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Post Post #1391 (isolation #349) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:05 pm

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In post 1390, Fykus wrote:(inb4 "this makes fykus undoubtably scum lets lynch him today")
Nah, you're town.
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Post Post #1392 (isolation #350) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:07 pm

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In post 1367, -Grey- wrote:RC: Not scum because of fakehammer on town that disrupted a mislynch.

Nydus: Not scum because who the fuck wants to pocket me of all people when they could just go along with the proposed Fykus/Grey combo lynch

Fykus: Probably not scum because noob.

Tier: Scum on the d1 wagon that has been laying lower than a motherfucker and most likely coached the fake claim

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Post Post #1394 (isolation #351) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:12 pm

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Fykus, you should be aware that RC is just going to lynch you tomorrow if you help him today.

He's town, but he is refusing to even consider the possibility that Tier is scum even though I contradicted every single thing he posted to defend Tier.

Our only chance at winning this game rests on your shoulders, because you're getting lynched tomorrow if I die today.
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Post Post #1396 (isolation #352) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:14 pm

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In post 1395, RadiantCowbells wrote:lol please discredit me more.
You can't argue the accuracy of my remarks, so your buzzword is a hollow accusation.
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Post Post #1398 (isolation #353) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:18 pm

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In post 1397, RadiantCowbells wrote:Actually I would lynch Nydus tomorrow. I've been coming around on Fykus town for a while.

:good:
Sure Cow.

Because scum!Nydus would turn down your offer of a fast and easy win and instead townread his ticket to victory.

There's no fucking way he's scum.
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Post Post #1400 (isolation #354) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:20 pm

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Hurr de hurr. :roll:
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Post Post #1402 (isolation #355) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:22 pm

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You can say that a thousand times.

Doesn't make it true.
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Post Post #1404 (isolation #356) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:24 pm

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Nuh-uh100
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Post Post #1405 (isolation #357) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:27 pm

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See this? This is how I know you're town beyond the fakehammer.

If you were scum, you'd just tell me you'd lynch Tier if I flipped town so I'd go along with my own lynch, because I made it pretty clear that I was fine with being lynched today if he was lynched tomorrow.

Instead, I'm having to fight to get scum lynched today because you'll never lynch him.
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Post Post #1408 (isolation #358) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:31 pm

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In post 1406, RadiantCowbells wrote:know how I know you're scum because you are scum.
So hammer Tier.

If he flips town, those voting with me now will come screaming for my head because I led two mislynches.

Doesn't seem like something scum with any sense would do, to me. It virtually guarantees my death if he flips town.
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Post Post #1410 (isolation #359) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:32 pm

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In post 1392, -Grey- wrote:
In post 1367, -Grey- wrote:RC: Not scum because of fakehammer on town that disrupted a mislynch.

Nydus: Not scum because who the fuck wants to pocket me of all people when they could just go along with the proposed Fykus/Grey combo lynch

Fykus: Probably not scum because noob.

Tier: Scum on the d1 wagon that has been laying lower than a motherfucker and most likely coached the fake claim

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Post Post #1412 (isolation #360) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:34 pm

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You know that 1408 is true.

Anybody with half a brain knows it's true.

You have at least 51%!
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Post Post #1414 (isolation #361) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:36 pm

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Aw, you're scared of little old me?!?!

That's flattering, really.
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Post Post #1416 (isolation #362) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:48 pm

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So, for the town members who
don't
have their head shoved up their ass:

If I should come to be lynched today, one of you who are voting Tier WILL be NK'ed.

No Lynch tomorrow, because RC will be blindly holding on to his Tier townread and it'll take every single town member to lynch him which you won't have.

That will force Tiershift to kill someone else that was on his wagon which will further implicate him because RC can only ignore Tier's scumminess for so long and Tier will never kill his biggest supporter.
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Post Post #1419 (isolation #363) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:42 pm

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In post 1418, Fykus wrote:What makes you think tier is scum
Lynched scum was coached.

Lynched scum's buddy was experienced.

That means it wasn't you.

My role pm is green, so it wasn't me.

nydus passed up the perfect opportunity to skate to a win simply by agreeing to lynch me, but he townread me instead which means he was playing directly against his wincon if he was scum, so it wasn't him

RC not only disrupted a wagon on town d1, but is also not trying to appease me with offers to vote Tier when I flip green even though there's tons of support for Tier's lynch, so it's not him.

Process of elimination.
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Post Post #1420 (isolation #364) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:46 pm

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Fykus, ask nydus why he townreads me. I'm not going to try to convince you because you'll just say anything I'm saying could come from scum anyway.
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Post Post #1423 (isolation #365) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 11:35 pm

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In post 996, RadiantCowbells wrote:VOTE: pepchoninga

Good with this vote though.
In post 1012, RadiantCowbells wrote:oh I want to see pepcho's head on a plate.
In post 1422, RadiantCowbells wrote:we lynched pepcho because of me. don't you dare lynch my top townread.
Pretend for thirty seconds that the mod turned me into an Innocent Child.

How is nydus scum when he threw your offer to chain lynch Fykus and me back in your face?

I'm not even trying to get you to change your read on me here. That's a lost cause. I'm trying to get you to open your fucking eyes after I'm dead and not lynch more town.
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Post Post #1429 (isolation #366) » Sat Feb 04, 2017 12:05 pm

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In post 1424, nydushermain wrote:Sorry wait. How do we know scum wasn't coached?
He
was
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Post Post #1431 (isolation #367) » Sat Feb 04, 2017 12:18 pm

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In post 1430, Formerfish wrote:I'm not sure where to go from here. Grey is making sense,
which I hate
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Sorry. :?
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Post Post #1433 (isolation #368) » Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:49 pm

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The problem with your theory is that all of these guys have every reason to doubt whatever I say, yet they can STILL see my point.

Break out of your fucking tunnel already.
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Post Post #1435 (isolation #369) » Sat Feb 04, 2017 2:03 pm

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Fykus, I know you dislike me... but don't let that dislike of my personality stop you from voting scum.

Just look at what you're sheeping. LOOK AT IT!
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Post Post #1437 (isolation #370) » Sat Feb 04, 2017 2:07 pm

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You're making my point, RC.

You aren't after me because you think I'm sum. You want me dead because you don't like how I'm playing.

Drop the fucking grudge already and vote this sum so you can bitch at me all you want in post-game.

You're just mad that I found the last scum before you, and your ego is bruised. Get over it. Even a broken clock gets to be right twice a day.
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Post Post #1439 (isolation #371) » Sat Feb 04, 2017 2:11 pm

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Lol.

If I said your push on me was alignment indicative, you'd scumread me for that too.

You're the epitome of confbias.
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Post Post #1441 (isolation #372) » Sat Feb 04, 2017 2:13 pm

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I'm not playing for pride here, RC.

I found my reads and I'm sticking with them. What others do is up to them.

If you want to blow this game because I hurt your wittle feewings, that's all you.
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Post Post #1449 (isolation #373) » Sat Feb 04, 2017 8:32 pm

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I stayed awake for that?

Going to bed now.
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Post Post #1451 (isolation #374) » Sat Feb 04, 2017 9:34 pm

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So, anyway ... RC walled up a storm because he knows my phone shits the bed on them.

That's okay, I can make it work when the need is great, and the cause is just.
In post 1443, RadiantCowbells wrote:Where it becomes very not fine is when he says that my disruption of the JackChaos wagon makes me scum if JackChaos is scum.
Bullshit.

You knew damned well that fakehammer g Jack's wagon would lead to reactions of the hammer.

Reactions that could then be used for a flashwagon.

Jack being scum and you rescuing him was a solid theory. Lucky for us that was not the case.
In post 1443, RadiantCowbells wrote:No, he was townreading my PREDECESSOR who is not the level of actor that I am and so discarding that townread makes very little sense
Mid to late game, this is true. But on d1, there is nothing concrete to build a hard read on which is why MINE ARE ALWAYS ALL OVER THE PLACE ON D1 IN EVERY GAME EVER.
In post 1443, RadiantCowbells wrote:Oh, and I just want to point out with regards to the bussing shenanigans: you have someone in this game who is a top tier scumhunter and uses meta frequently and you're not going to shake up your meta in a situation where your scum partner is basically dead in the water? Come on.
Not bussing isn't a playstyle issue. It's a fucking religion with me.

I'm not going to sacrifice my beliefs just because of the player list.

Giga's quote in my sig is fucking law.
In post 1443, RadiantCowbells wrote:First off, he suggested that I knew that there was going to be a goon flip.
Sure did.

Why didn't you ask me why instead of fly off the handle with wild accusations?

Because if you had, I'd have told you that you looked like you were setting up the JK to make sure I wasn't cleared so I could be mislynched the next day.

And here we are.
In post 1443, RadiantCowbells wrote:GREY WOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT DOESNT CONFIRM SHIT. SCUM IS EITHER FORMERFISH OR HAS A ROLEBLOCKER. WHY IS GREY ATTEMPTING TO LIE ABOUT MECHANICS TO GET HIMSELF FALSELY CONFIRMED AND AT THE SAME TIME TAKING AWAY OUR CLEAR ON FORMERFISH?
Stop equating ignorance with malice.

The day was racing to a close after the hammer with the mod coming to lock the thread at any second.

All I could think about was, "fucking clear me!"

And quit making all these declarations about my knowledge because I derp mechanics ALL THE FUCKING TIME.
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Fixed to remove confbias.
In post 1443, RadiantCowbells wrote:Grey defended Pepcho and actually tried to negotiate votes on other wagons with me; onto people he claimed not to scumread.
Wrong.

I did not defend Pepto.

I entertained the thought of a Moogin wagon because
YOU
always tell me my reads are shit so I considered an alternative approach based on mislynch wagon composition.
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Corrected to remove shade.

You act like you've never seen anyone jump onto a replacement with accusations of being scum to gauge their reactions.

My affinity for reaction testing is well documented.
In post 1443, RadiantCowbells wrote:that slot immediately scumreads him back ???
Noobscum OMGUS. So?
In post 1443, RadiantCowbells wrote:AND THROW IN THE FACT THAT HE HINTS THAT HE NEEDS TO READ THE 'THREAD' AND THE GUY IMMEDIATELY claims tracker. Such a fucking obvious hint to go read the scum thread.
He was already caught scum. I was fucking gloating that he gave himself away because he hadn't even read THE FUCKING THREAD.
In post 1445, RadiantCowbells wrote:Oh, and if he's not a PR then saying he's going to CC any pr claims is so fucking antitown as to be beyond belief.
I shouldn't even need to remind you of Open 661.

Or the fact that you know damned well that I do such shit on the regular.

The only reason I DIDN'T cc him is BECAUSE it's the newbie queue. It's a terrible example to set even if you're certain the claim is fake.
In post 1446, RadiantCowbells wrote:AND I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT GREY HASN'T SAID SHIT ABOUT WHY TIER IS MORE LIKELY TO BE SCUM THAN NYDUS
Why are you resorting to blatant lies?

I stated multiple times:

Spoiler: MULTIPLE TIMES
In post 1367, -Grey- wrote:Nydus: Not scum because who the fuck wants to pocket me of all people when they could just go along with the proposed Fykus/Grey combo lynch
In post 1379, -Grey- wrote:Why in the hell would scum!Nydus townread me when he had the game all tied up in a bow by simply agreeing to lynch me if Fykus flipped town?

That's nonsensical.
In post 1398, -Grey- wrote:Sure Cow.

Because scum!Nydus would turn down your offer of a fast and easy win and instead townread his ticket to victory.

There's no fucking way he's scum.
In post 1419, -Grey- wrote:nydus passed up the perfect opportunity to skate to a win simply by agreeing to lynch me, but he townread me instead which means he was playing directly against his wincon if he was scum, so it wasn't him
In post 1423, -Grey- wrote:How is nydus scum when he threw your offer to chain lynch Fykus and me back in your face?
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Post Post #1453 (isolation #375) » Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:14 pm

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In post 1452, RadiantCowbells wrote:I sincerely do not believe that you are as anti-town and ignorant as you are claiming to be. And your reasoning for why not Nydus is basically 'he sided with me instead of looking obvscum by sheeping a wagon that he would look scummy for being on'
You and I were both scumreading Fykus and each other.

Between the two of us, you win in LyLo hands down, so I reached out to you to lynch Fykus first.

You were all set to chainlynch Fykus and me. nydus had plenty of excuses to claim a scumread on me. Just like you are doing right now, as a matter of fact.

It makes zero sense that scum!nydus would throw away an easy 1-2 mislynch combo being driven by you.
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Post Post #1455 (isolation #376) » Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:19 pm

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In post 1452, RadiantCowbells wrote:anti-town
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=69517

I fake countered a cop claim.

The cop claim was fake.

And cut the horseshit. You know as a damned fact that my playstyle in general is antitown.
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Post Post #1457 (isolation #377) » Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:21 pm

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In post 1452, RadiantCowbells wrote:anti-town
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p8584432

Hilarious hammer.

Antitown as hell.
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Post Post #1458 (isolation #378) » Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:22 pm

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In post 1456, RadiantCowbells wrote:This game was a little too anti-town combined with some lack of game mechanic understanding that I think was fake and some very convenient actions on day 2.
Look at ANY of my scum games.

Not antitown.

I care more about appearances as scum.

You fucking well know that.
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Post Post #1459 (isolation #379) » Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:24 pm

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Post Post #1462 (isolation #380) » Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:58 pm

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My reads are set in stone.

Tier is the only person that makes sense as scum.

Did you miss that big ass spoiler? You should go read it. Again.
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Post Post #1466 (isolation #381) » Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:04 pm

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In post 1464, RadiantCowbells wrote:So like you don't actually have the choice of lynching Tier unless you rush it today while I am still alive in which case I would just vote you tomorrow anyway.
Do you not realize that Tier is already L-1?

I'm perfectly happy with camping here until deadline unless you or Fykus decides to wise up and lynch scum.
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Post Post #1468 (isolation #382) » Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:07 pm

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Idk, the IC, who would do that regardless of alignment?
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Post Post #1473 (isolation #383) » Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:17 pm

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It's about him giving up two easy mislynches and instead townreading the one player all the momentum was building up against.

His play just makes no sense as scum.

If both scum were still alive, sure... he might be scum off the wagon. But we're down to one scum. That flexibility is gone and scum will go after opportunities to win.
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Post Post #1477 (isolation #384) » Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:23 pm

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Make the case and I'll consider the vote.
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Post Post #1479 (isolation #385) » Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:25 pm

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If I DO switch to Nydus, I don't want to hear any shit from you tomorrow except a Tiershift vote if he flips town, though.
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Post Post #1481 (isolation #386) » Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:27 pm

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Where the hell has he been, anyway?

UNVOTE:

I can do that. His slot seems empty.
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Post Post #1482 (isolation #387) » Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:27 pm

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In post 1480, RadiantCowbells wrote:If you are town there won't be a tomorrow.
This isn't MyLo.
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Post Post #1485 (isolation #388) » Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:33 pm

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In post 1483, RadiantCowbells wrote:You're missing my point.
Scumreads isn't killing either one of us.

We're the grand finale. Don't you see that yet?
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Post Post #1486 (isolation #389) » Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:34 pm

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In post 1485, -Grey- wrote:
In post 1483, RadiantCowbells wrote:You're missing my point.
Scum isn't killing either one of us.

We're the grand finale. Don't you see that yet?
Edit.
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Post Post #1489 (isolation #390) » Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:48 pm

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In post 1487, RadiantCowbells wrote:weird as fuck overreaction to being called scum by his partner.
How is Pepcho calling him scum in that quote?
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Post Post #1494 (isolation #391) » Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:53 pm

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In post 1487, RadiantCowbells wrote:Pressuring an empty slot durdurdur. I wanted that shit powerlynched but he is preemptively making excuses to jump off.
Good point.
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Post Post #1495 (isolation #392) » Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:55 pm

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In post 1487, RadiantCowbells wrote:Grey: FUCK NO NO ONE CLAIMS LETS POWERLYNCH THIS SONOFA-
Nydus: Hey guys let's massclaim!
Oh yeah.
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Post Post #1496 (isolation #393) » Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:59 pm

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Fuck it.

I'm sheeping the cow.

VOTE: nydus
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Post Post #1503 (isolation #394) » Sun Feb 05, 2017 5:07 am

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In post 1499, nydushermain wrote:I don't care about RC voting but you literally said I was never scum. You're shady as fuck.
I said RC was never scum too, but I wound up voting him a few times.

Never say never, I guess.
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Post Post #1520 (isolation #395) » Mon Feb 06, 2017 2:22 pm

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Flow your vote onto nydus.
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Post Post #1564 (isolation #396) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 5:55 pm

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In post 1533, RadiantCowbells wrote:Ayyy.

So Grey isn't actually House then and this game proves it. House would have known about the goon-jailkeeper thing.
Holy Christ man, thank you for burying that bone! :facepalm:
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Post Post #1568 (isolation #397) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 7:50 pm

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I'll bite, whatcha got?
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Post Post #1574 (isolation #398) » Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:11 am

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In post 1573, RadiantCowbells wrote:NOt entirely comfortable giving you play talk while we're in ongoings.
Guess I'll never get advice from you. :lol:
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