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Post Post #425 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2015 6:43 pm

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Sky,

my top three suspects:

1. heyboxgaminig
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I feel that hbg often toyed with the momentum of discussion early in DP1. Every time a new conversation that had something to do with someone
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than saad or bewilderbeast, hbg was right on the spot moving the conversation back to those two. This hyperfocus reads scummy to me. But on the other hand HBG has been fairly consistent with having those two focal points throughout the day. That either is a tunnel-vision from a townsperson or a scum tell. I'm currently undecided.

In post 157, heyboxgaminig wrote:
...
Also, town read on paladin after the fantastic post that was #151 and I support your case that we may have found our two scum buddies already.

Although, if we lynch beast and he flips green.... we don't have a lead on saad anymore, Personally I believe that either paladin or myself will be the night kill as everybody else seems a little bit over the place, although coldwine is a possibility

So we should plan ahead. We shouldent put all of our eggs in the beast & saad basket.


If he did flip green, who would be the next likely wagon?


Every post after #157 in HBG's ISO fails to place suspect on anyone but bewilder and saad except for a one-line mention of Anarchist...upon which HBG fails to follow-up or even give any explanation. I find this light punch to be highly suspect and a good way to feign suspicion but without having to own to hbg's own accountability, which is then also given up on solely because Anarchist pushes on saad. Further evidence of tunnel-vision on Saad.

In post 192, heyboxgaminig wrote:Anarchist just made a big push on saad, that's why I don't see him being Scum buddys with him.
My read was based on how when saad pleaded with somebody to hope of the wagon anarchist did not hesitate, almost like taking an order from another scum? sure, Its not a great scum read and that's why I was waiting for more. this whole saad situation made me rethink that.

Even if he was mafia, Getting his side lynched is the worse thing to do day one and we could (much later mind you) mass claim when there are only 3 of us left and our vote on the last scum would be inherently easy...


Between HBG "suspecting" Anarchist and then retracting, I was expecting Anarchist to have made a strong post on Saad. While the rationale for pushing was good, Anarchist did nothing to emphasize this strongly. I feel that HBG is just dropping an act that is known to not be able to stand up after defending against it.


2. bewilderbeast

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It's all retread from others, but the main points are having a hyperfocus on Saad, possibly lurking when pressure was high, and also for not providing much overall. Seems fairly defensive and seems more focused on defending self than trying to find out a little more to


3. saad

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Before the recent unvotes, I was thinking that saad was just hyperactive in play. However, claiming that this is for a long con...it's a bit groanworthy whether as a defense as either town or mafia. What makes me a little bit less suspicious is that Saad seems to have intentionally attracted attention to self
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during times when pressure
was not
on Saad. I hesitate in believing that scum would try to do so much to keep attention on self all this time. If Saad is doing this to get a better read on everyone, I would believe it a lot more. But there's this whole long con on the whole Jake conversation, and that's just confusing and way too convulted.


In this deadline situation, I don't mind seeing saad claim with all this pressure, but I also think we're letting bewilderbeast get off the hook.
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Post Post #426 (ISO) » Sat Apr 11, 2015 1:53 am

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Wow
"Between HBG "suspecting" Anarchist and then retracting, I was expecting Anarchist to have made a strong post on Saad. While the rationale for pushing was good, Anarchist did nothing to emphasize this strongly. I feel that HBG is just dropping an act that is known to not be able to stand up after defending against it."

That indeed would be a great strategy if I was scum! Like honestly I love how much credit i am being given for something i dident even know i was doing, its like english class all over again.

Like i have said before when people say i am very focused (broken record) on saad and beast, its becuase there are beyond a doubt my two most confident votes in terms of them being scum. would you rather i question jake from state farm? seems like a waste of time for me, I like to question the people i find scummy.. hey kinda like what your doing to me? I always get a block and they get a sentence, by your logic "Oh your hyper focused on heyboxgaming who is your main suspect therefore you must be scum" although i wouldn't put it past you being scum, all your posts have been on easy lynches "saad,beast and probably myself".
would be great to see you looking on somebody else? oh but i guess you are way too hyperfocused so you must be scum?

Anyway, pablito, i can assume your going to claim town (if you were put on the spot) so i would like to know how you think highspaces actions and posts support yourself as pro-town? because he was a bit of a weird player, if you ask me.
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Post Post #427 (ISO) » Sat Apr 11, 2015 2:43 am

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Lady chance Saad. I'm giving you until this afternoon.
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Post Post #428 (ISO) » Sat Apr 11, 2015 2:50 am

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Vc time
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Post Post #429 (ISO) » Sat Apr 11, 2015 3:42 am

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In post 427, Coldwine wrote:Lady chance Saad. I'm giving you until this afternoon.

Lady chance? Lol
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Post Post #430 (ISO) » Sat Apr 11, 2015 6:34 am

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@mod
Does "Vc" mean vote count? I would really like one. :]
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Post Post #431 (ISO) » Sat Apr 11, 2015 7:22 am

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In post 426, heyboxgaminig wrote:Wow
"Between HBG "suspecting" Anarchist and then retracting, I was expecting Anarchist to have made a strong post on Saad. While the rationale for pushing was good, Anarchist did nothing to emphasize this strongly. I feel that HBG is just dropping an act that is known to not be able to stand up after defending against it."

That indeed would be a great strategy if I was scum! Like honestly I love how much credit i am being given for something i dident even know i was doing, its like english class all over again.

Like i have said before when people say i am very focused (broken record) on saad and beast, its becuase there are beyond a doubt my two most confident votes in terms of them being scum. would you rather i question jake from state farm? seems like a waste of time for me, I like to question the people i find scummy.. hey kinda like what your doing to me? I always get a block and they get a sentence, by your logic "Oh your hyper focused on heyboxgaming who is your main suspect therefore you must be scum" although i wouldn't put it past you being scum, all your posts have been on easy lynches "saad,beast and probably myself".
would be great to see you looking on somebody else? oh but i guess you are way too hyperfocused so you must be scum?

Anyway, pablito, i can assume your going to claim town (if you were put on the spot) so i would like to know how you think highspaces actions and posts support yourself as pro-town? because he was a bit of a weird player, if you ask me.


disagree, highspace was towny, pablito aint.
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Post Post #432 (ISO) » Sat Apr 11, 2015 10:41 am

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In post 429, Jake from State Farm wrote:
In post 427, Coldwine wrote:Lady chance Saad. I'm giving you until this afternoon.

Lady chance? Lol


Haha, last. Saad was on, but hasn't claimed. I'm hammering in twenty minutes.
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Post Post #433 (ISO) » Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:01 am

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In post 432, Coldwine wrote:
In post 429, Jake from State Farm wrote:
In post 427, Coldwine wrote:Lady chance Saad. I'm giving you until this afternoon.

Lady chance? Lol


Haha, last. Saad was on, but hasn't claimed. I'm hammering in twenty minutes.


i claim villager townie; today an innocent man dies. :(
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Post Post #434 (ISO) » Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:02 am

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haha 20 mins went and you didn't hammer me.
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Post Post #435 (ISO) » Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:02 am

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i'm claiming the moral victory there.
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Post Post #436 (ISO) » Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:03 am

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*here
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Post Post #437 (ISO) » Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:10 am

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In post 433, saad wrote:
In post 432, Coldwine wrote:
In post 429, Jake from State Farm wrote:
In post 427, Coldwine wrote:Lady chance Saad. I'm giving you until this afternoon.

Lady chance? Lol


Haha, last. Saad was on, but hasn't claimed. I'm hammering in twenty minutes.


i claim villager townie; today an innocent man dies. :(


LOL

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Post Post #438 (ISO) » Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:11 am

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nooooooooo :(
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Post Post #439 (ISO) » Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:13 am

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get heyboxgaming tomorrow, then last one is in pablito and seraphim.
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Post Post #440 (ISO) » Sat Apr 11, 2015 1:48 pm

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OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT 1.10
saad (LYNCH) - heyboxgaminig, Seraphim, Anarchist7, bewilderbeast, Coldwine

Seraphim (3) - Sky_Paladin, Jake from State Farm, saad
heyboxgaminig (1) - pablito

Not Voting (0) -


With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2015-04-13 00:00:59)
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saad was lynched Day 1. He was a
Vanilla Townie
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Post Post #441 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 3:37 am

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Sorry for the delay. Thread coming up in a few hours.
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Post Post #442 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:21 pm

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My sincerest apologies again for the delay.

Coldwine was killed Night 1. He was a
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Post Post #443 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:30 pm

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OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT 2.01
Not Voting (7) - pablito, Anarchist7, Jake from State Farm, Seraphim, Sky_Paladin, bewilderbeast, heyboxgaminig


With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.

The deadline for Day 2 is in (expired on 2015-05-01 00:00:59).
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Post Post #444 (ISO) » Thu Apr 16, 2015 12:13 am

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vote: seraphim


Didn't like your coasting day 1, huge scum tell imo
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Post Post #445 (ISO) » Thu Apr 16, 2015 1:20 am

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Calm your farm jake (proud of that one) no need to rush votes!

Can I be the first to say that i found the coldwine kill to be quite interesting, not killing the power players scares me. Makes me second guess who i trust, maybe that was there plan. I dont know.

I don't think seph to be scum, hes dodging sure, and even being idle to the extent that its bad for the game, but its too obvious to be scum play.

I dont like pablito/highspace, mainly because he went for an easy lych and even said "lets not let get bewilder of the hook" (paraphrasing) which is another easy lynch for him. Heck i would vouch my life on him continuing to focus on bewilder and I, using saads last words, as empty as they may be. to strengthen his argument on me. we will see how this day goes.
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Post Post #446 (ISO) » Thu Apr 16, 2015 1:22 am

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Also please not that the "dont rush votes" was part of the joke, As i made obvuise by voting pablito, i think voting straight away is fine

As long as you have a reason for it of course
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Post Post #447 (ISO) » Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:53 am

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In post 444, Jake from State Farm wrote:
vote: seraphim


Didn't like your coasting day 1, huge scum tell imo


At one stage you had a scum tell on Highspace, what happened to that?
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Post Post #448 (ISO) » Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:08 am

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if you recall towards the end of day 1 I was voting seraphim, which means I suspect him more than I do highspace. I need to re-read pablito's posts to see if they make sense, but for now when the IC is basically lurking through an entire day phase and providing little to no content, that worries me quite a bit.
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Post Post #449 (ISO) » Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:20 am

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and for the record I don't think I accused highspace of any scumtell so not sure where you got that fromo
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