Blitz 17: Netherspite's Blitz SORM II [Game over]

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if we had lynch day 1 i would push for mass claim.

since it isnt we dont claim tll day 2

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if we had lynch day 1 i would push for mass claim.

since it isnt we dont claim tll day 2

I dont see any hand waving that would explain why its beneficial even on D2.
There are 5 vaguely defined town slots and then 9 other people who will either probably fake claim or have been randomed into the slots.
Rather a lot of combinations of numbers of each type of slot is reasonably possible by chance.
It, the actual claims, may get you info that is slightly better than random lynching.

But my math says not much.

and there exist downsides. Consigliere is a mafia role because the information mass claim gives away is worth something.
and ...

here let me put it in experince

ive played 1000+ of this games on the sc2 mafia mod

ive played this on myhomestie

ive played this 3 times here

i know what im fucking doing

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This is different to last time.

not even close to being diffrent

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K briefly read up a bit

Errant looks town

rkvothe looks scum

All my posts will be signed.

~SW

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Well, it's my wird against yours, but 67 was sincere. I do admit that I'm starting to follow what should I do. Your post was helpful.

Regards 70, it wasn't credit grab at all. I've pointed it out because he wasn't adding anything new to the table, I'd say that it was a 'free post'. Also, it was the third time itbwas said. Look at my wording: 'I also agree...'. The hydra talks like he made a discovery no one knew of.

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@yakko why'd you say that?

Yeah, pretty much. As it was scummy to 'credit grab' in my case.

OK WTF are you talking about?

ika suggested in 69 that we don't massclaim today since there is no lynch today and that we massclaim D2 instead.

You said you said the exact same thing in [pos]t67[/post] but said nothing of the sort.

Then you go on and on about how we are scummy for "credit grabbing" something you said, when ika has played this game numerous times and knows good strategy on how to do it and he DID NOT say the same thing you did.

This totally smells like scum looking for any reason to scumread another person. Even a pathetic one like this.

~SW

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@errant

Well, it's my wird against yours, but 67 was sincere. I do admit that I'm starting to follow what should I do. Your post was helpful.

Regards 70, it wasn't credit grab at all. I've pointed it out because he wasn't adding anything new to the table, I'd say that it was a 'free post'. Also, it was the third time itbwas said. Look at my wording: 'I also agree...'. The hydra talks like he made a discovery no one knew of.

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@yakko why'd you say that?

Yeah, pretty much. As it was scummy to 'credit grab' in my case.

OK WTF are you talking about?

ika suggested in 69 that we don't massclaim today since there is no lynch today and that we massclaim D2 instead.

You said you said the exact same thing in 67 but said nothing of the sort.

Then you go on and on about how we are scummy for "credit grabbing" something you said, when ika has played this game numerous times and knows good strategy on how to do it and he DID NOT say the same thing you did.

This totally smells like scum looking for any reason to scumread another person. Even a pathetic one like this.

~SW

ebwop

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Like seriously rkvothe, you either don't know how to play the game or are scum or both.

I'm kind of concerned that Aronis posted one post that said zero. Does anyone know if this is how he is as scum? I don't know that I've ever played with him.

~SW

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This is different to last time.

not even close to being diffrent

As i have previously defined how it is different and you have previously defined yourself as the absolute authority on the game setup.
I guess we have nothing to discuss then.

What? This seems unusually hostile. If you can't deal with ika, you can talk to me then.

~SW

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I'm having computer issues though sadly.

~SW

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Listen Axle, ika can be that way, don't take it so personal. I know ika well enough to tell you that provoking him will get you nowhere. If yo don't like it, deal with me instead.

~SW

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ika is getting ready to go to work but Axle this is from him:

-This setup is closer to what the original is then the others. That's why it's not different.

-Like 700 out of his 1000+ games on sc2 mafia mod had a no lynch D1

~SW

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I thought scum but maybe just total newb.

~SW

Aronis bugs me a lot more

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It's only 24 hrs.

~SW

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@Anxiety, you are being bit hostile to me for no reason.

If you scumread us for stupid shit, get used to it.

~SW

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I'm actually getting scum vibes off of FA but ika's played with her more, so I'll ask him.

But yeah, she's pinging me.

~SW

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FA-Jester confirmed.

HI!!!

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I'm town

Hey!

wtf is jester an insult ?

No, it's a joke. Don't think you are a jester.

~SW

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Thinking about it, Axle's response to ika leans town.

~SW

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I didn't like 88.

It's forcing scum motivation where it doesn't really fit. Mostly because it's entirely conceivable that rkvothe, being new to the site might hold conviction for 'credit grabbing' being a scumtell. That thought never crossed their mind.

Also if anyone should get credit for saying to not mass claim, at least for today it should be me. I SAID IT FIRST. lol

Makes zero sense. How many times do I have to explain the massclaim business?

And I already said he could be newb but I'm not going to assume he's newbtown for that alone.

~SW

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FA is scum per ika as well.

~SW

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Like, no massclaim D1 due to being lynchless but massclaim D2 should be pushed.

This is at least the 3rd time, maybe more that's been said by us. I don't really care who said it first tbh. It makes no difference alignment wise.

~SW

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Hmmmm, I don't know what to make of Wisdom, that worries me a bit.

~SW

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Frozen if you can prove your role you might as well claim right now

Frozen claim in next post. The first rule I learned as scum was to do what your doing now: "give me a night to prove myself"

Shoot wisdom frozen

I doubt Frozen is vig right now based on her play

FYI Lynch anrois tommorw

Picking these up for ika

~SW

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Also it is worth mentioning to people: today is classified as a day.
We cannot lynch today.
Therefore, automatically, the jailkeeper/kidnapper roles if existing (and at least one of those two probably does exist) will automatically get to pull someone out.
Thus, the mafia get a free second kill if they have a kidnapper; I would advise the jailkeeper to use their role either as a block or as a protection, make it clear to who you have jailed which it is, and absolutely do not kill your target since if you do, you're going to make yourself look like the kidnapper.

thats actualy really dumb for jailor to act like that in event of sk existing.

sk would kill jailor.

also if a jailor exist they should execute anywasy jsut to prove existinace and confirm its role.

so if jailors exist they execute no matter what

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sorry deadline is here and silver jsut told me and i jsut got home

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again, if we die lynch anoris tommorw

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ok so anyways cus i think i got more time to make a more cohent post:

kidnapper has one exeution alone, so if they jail some obvious town target or something they yes we scutanize them. if they target someone who is acting scum or is scummy (ie frozen/anrois) then i would leave them.

worst case we could jsut have them porve themselfs again by no lynching

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but asking a jailor to not execute makes it a can of wifom game for scums to use and claim and fake stuff so ya....

jailor always executes

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I've given reads throughout the day. In our ISO. They haven't changed. If I am not saying something on someone, I don't know yet.

~SW

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you have 0 explimations. when you act like you are right and others are wong like you are now it does nothing but pises us off.

axel fuck off already you dont know shit about this setup like i do

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ika. calm down. keep texting me, relax

~SW

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sigh.... sorry its just how you go about most games axel jsut rubs me the wrong way cus how you go about any game i have seen you in acts on an athorative place where what you say is law and anoyne who disagress is immitetly wrong

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Listen Axel, 88 was me. I didn't like the misrep and said so. I don't give people passes for being new. I have had newbscum roll right over me and win when I've written them off as town. You are sheeping someone else saying they don't like it and that makes you look bad.

~SW

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AA - Did you not recognize that Rvok was newb from the start?

No and what the hell difference does that make?

~SW

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AA - Did you not recognize that Rvok was newb from the start?

what is that suppose to change?

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omg silver ninjaed me.

<3

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lol, happens a lot

~SW

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i dont think i have said it yet here but this hydra of ours is the best and would not have anyone else to take it

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<3

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<3

This was me, lol.

~SW

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Like really, being new doesn't mean town and it pisses me off that my 88 is being called into question because someone is new.

Like that's all kinds of stupid. Read newbie 1598 and see how I towread scum for being new and scum won. Read newbie 1620 and see how newbscum didn't win because I didn't.

Don't use that, they are new shit. That's a way to lose the game.

~SW

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i told this to silver silver this but i will repeat it here:

this type of game is litarly my domain and the setup i grew up on for years. i knowtis game like the back of my hand.

so i am very quick to be reactionary in this game to anything.

like rangers idea of no exeuting is one and how you are actin in this game about the gamestate is another.

day 2 we claim catagories and then claims roles outright. investgations last to claim.

if we are alive i can set up the game and force sucms into a poe bloc where they will get outed

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It changes a lot in my opinion. You may read newbs different then I do, but I tend to give them some slack in the beginning, and if they don't pick it up, or they look like they are being coached, I pursue them.

cool, we arent you.

i do like to give newbies a day 1 pass cus they are newbs but that does not change anythign about reading them.

ill look over the iso overnight and talk with silver but trust me, silver is in charge fo this hydra most times and most times i will end up agreeing with her

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OK, Well I learned the hard way not to give newbs a break. I also learned not to give replacements a pass for replacing into a scummy slot.

So that's why I'm acting this way.

~SW

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OK, Well I learned the hard way not to give newbs a break. I also learned not to give replacements a pass for replacing into a scummy slot.

So that's why I'm acting this way.

~SW

^that very much.

I have seen some slots (ie mine) be town read like hell and then get lynched like not more the 50 post later cus of the shit repalcements and how new tat are

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in otherwords, you have your way dice and we have ours. if you disagree thats fine, but dont act like we are being wrong

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