Mini 1782 Game Over

[Clumsy]

Then... don't read it? Hard concept, I know. I'm spoilering it so that it's not taking up that much room, and easy to scroll past for people who don't want to go through all that. I'd rather do something with all of this though, if you wouldn't mind. So just skip past it if you'd like.

And I could be Sports Center. You don't know my life.

[pisskop]

Lol.

Page by pages are simpyl the past. They are an inferior vehicle to convey thoughts.

[Clumsy]

Well let me know when you get the telepathy SUVs working, and I'll use those instead. For now though, I'll do this.

[Clumsy]

Page 1-5 recap.

APF seems really scummy in this segment. Making comments that could be read as still joking, but much more than I would think that someone would do as joking. Definitely would put my vote here for this segment.
RC is a decent runner up, with strange behavior coming out of that slot, particularly with PLs and FA.
FA's slot is sitting at null-town with me at the moment.
At first I was very meh about Roshar, looking like she was pushing too hard on something that wasn't really there, but I'm reading more as aggressive scumhunting this go around. Town.
Froot Loop is doing mostly commentary here, not much to remark on. Null.
Kain makes me feel better when I'm in a bad mood.
Not much else yet this early.

[Ircher]

Vote Count - Day 1 VC #14

Titus (0) -
Mhsmith (1) - Nos
Huntress (0) -
Froot (0) -
Pisskop (0) -
Max (2) - Froot, Titus
Maverick (0) -
Shaddow (0) -
Nos (0) -
Plain (0) -
Lowell (0) -
Clumsy (6) - Lowell, Maverick, Plain, Mhsmith, Rosh, Shaddow
Rosh (0) -
No Lynch (0) -
Not Voting (4) - Clumsy, Pisskop, Huntress, Max

Deadline

Day 1 will end on April 19, 2016 5:30 PM EST or in (expired on 2016-04-19 17:30:00).

Lynch Threshold

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Mod Notes

Clumsy will be V/LA April 15-17
Maverick was prodded.

[Clumsy]

Spoiler: Page Seven.

I can find you an example of me using the very similar phrasing of a very similar thing when I was talking to Titus in a previous game.
In fact if I was scum I'd be way more likely to specifically say 'town' there if FA wasn't on my team. I insert reminders that I'm town constantly as scum.

I'm not going to read meta because A) It's easy as hell to change your own meta, and B) you've just asked me to check your meta. What makes you town or scum in another game doesn't apply to this game, and you can play against your meta in different alignments in different games. What an awful post.

FOS: RC

too now.

Exactly. Why would we look at that when that's what you -want- us to do? As scum, you'd only do that to help you. Town would do that to help you too, but that leads to it not really mattering. It's like the old riddle of "One guy lies, the other tells the truth. What do you ask to know the right path to walk down?" You can't just use a simple question (or example in this case) for that. You won't get anything one way or the other.

I'm not yelling at people that I want to yell at because I'm trying to be nice.

But people are being hella dumb rn.

How are they being dumb? For not blindly following you in everything you do, for showing even a little skepticism or suspicion towards you in a Mafia game? I'm disliking RC mafia more and more. (I know he isn't here, I'm not talking directly to him.)

I have absolutely no difficulties responding to pressure as scum.

I'm sick of dealing with this crap as town. I am town. lay off.

This -really- seems over the top as a response to all of this. Looks really really bad.

You are one of the people who, if I were scum, would have an unshakable townread on me the entire game because you can't read through any lines.
If I were scum I'd have absolutely no issue coming up with a wallpost of reasons why Roshar is scum.
FA wouldn't townread me for that and neither should you, so in the end you're wasting your time because that's not how you sort me.

Ugh.

Gonna take a break for now, but I want to at least get through page 10 tonight. Unfortunately, that'll be all once I'm going on V/LA, and I'm -not- doing this on the phone.

[Clumsy]

What the? Page six was in the preview. O.o Glad I had it saved.

Spoiler: Page Six.

VOTE: roshar

This guy is barely holding it together and we've just started. Come do this with me and watch this poor rube flail. His ISO reeks of careful scum... already, somehow.

Also clumsy's ham-handed "omg how many scum are there guyz" is the worst fake-townslip I've seen in a while. which is saying something.

maverick is town.

If it's the worst fake-townslip you've seen, why are you not voting for me here? If it's a fake-townslip, that would outright implly that I was scum looking like town, so why on Roshar (who I think is actually doing well at this point, so I don't get that) instead of me.

Also, my responses to Lowell have been like that mainly because he's just getting on my nerves.

ISO reeks of careful scum... already, somehow.

Careful, yes. I always recheck and reword my posts for coherency and try to put things in one post. Alignment indicative, no.

Really don't like the, "I'm so sure someone is scum and it's so early" kinda posts. Speculate all you want, but the utter confidence in a choice this early is either really noobish or fake.

The confusion between FA and RC is weird. I didn't know what RC was talking about because scum know each other. It's a strange interaction anyway.

Did you read it is as genuine or fake excitement when RC thought frozen slipped?

I had read it as straight incredulous reaction to actually catching a slip. Felt okay to me.

I was (erroneously) thinking that by "As in she's suspicious that I'm her buddy", RC was accusing you of actually slipping that you were wondering if he was your scumbuddy due to the scum PT not having been opened yet (when, I would have thought, the PT would have been open).

It was late when I was reading that, and it's even later now. I gotta get some sleep.

Decidedly meh. I understand, but it feels like a reach.

There's a difference between pretty sure and outright stating that people are scum and claiming people as scumpartners.

I am capable of revisiting and rethinking my reads. Apparently most people aren't.

Again, that early, I was reading that post by APF as a joke, because there was absolutely 0 substance there. Seems like a hard push and hard defense for something so.. insubstantial.

[Lowell]

No one cares.

[Lowell]

Titus or Nos-- kill clumsy please.

[Clumsy]

Again, to cut off time? That's not a good move Lowell. And it's going to look really bad on you. Why don't you want town to catch up with the replacements?

[Clumsy]

Like, not even to just pester you, but if you're town it's legitimately not a good move when we have people trying to catch up.

[Lowell]

Thanks for your concern. I'll be fine.

[mhsmith0]

I don't see the problem with what clumsy is doing right now. I'm not sure it's useful, but it's either going to lead somewhere that we can say he's not scum, or he's going to leave a legacy that we can mine post flip. Plus, as long as he's slapping it all under spoiler tags, who really cares.

That said, Clumsy I think it'd be better if you didn't do one post per page. Do like one post per five pages or the like. Especially please don't do this when it gets into the FA-Jake war.

[shaddowez]

Titus or Nos-- kill clumsy please.

Why those two specifically?

[shaddowez]

I prefer the recap like 1053 if you're going to continue. It actually gives us your thoughts instead of having to read walls and responses.

[Nosferatu]

Titus or Nos-- kill clumsy please.

tbh I wanna see what happens at the end

[Clumsy]

I'm getting the feeling Lowell just wants to shut me up because I called his play scummy for doing nothing but undercutting others, and now that I'm doing things, wants me quiet.

@Smith Yeah, I think I'll do that. Tried to combine the last two but formatting hates me I guess.

@Shadow I'll do that too, but the page by page is helping me make those. I don't see the point of me doing that and not posting them though. You don't have to read them, I'll still do that recaps.

[Nosferatu]

Titus or Nos-- kill clumsy please.

Why those two specifically?

Lowell when you get back this would be nice actually

[shaddowez]

@Shadow I'll do that too, but the page by page is helping me make those. I don't see the point of me doing that and not posting them though. You don't have to read them, I'll still do that recaps.

That's fair.

[mhsmith0]

Titus or Nos-- kill clumsy please.

tbh I wanna see what happens at the end

You find out it was the butler all along

[Lowell]

Titus or Nos-- kill clumsy please.

Why those two specifically?

Lowell when you get back this would be nice actually

You're two who I sort of am familiar with and who aren't voting clumsy. Really I don't care who does it.

[Ircher]

Unfortunately, as per the most recent Ban announcement, I'm gonna have to replace Pisskop. Sorry.

Will probably add a day for the replacement(s) to catch up.

[Ircher]

Searching for a replacement for Maverick1102 (24h nearly expired)
Prodding Titus, albeit slightly early(; if she posts before 11, the prod does not count.

[Froot Loop]

I literally cheered at Clumsy's post 1037 then I saw the page one and was like "Oh nooooo.." hahaha. That being said, I don't mind it and the spoiler tags are helpful.

I agree about Lowell advocating for something anti-town.

Anyone who asks things like "is this a pressure vote, or a lynch vote" is inherently suspicious, IMO.

I was trying to clarify Roshar's comment when she voted. Why is asking that scummy?

Lowell, can you clarify this? I hadn't thought about devaluing the vote but considering Roshar's comment when she voted, I wanted to know what she meant.

[Maverick1102]

I've asked for replacement sorry guys, I've messaged the moderator with why. Have a good game everyone!