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Post #1733 (isolation #201) » Thu Mar 14, 2024 5:20 am
Postby Kagerou Imaizumi »
In post 1729, Tenshi Hinanawi wrote:
There was this townread that somehow shifted on a dime to a scumread Kagerou felt comfortable 1v1ing without any real established push from them prior. And that “miswording” feels bizarre on top of that.
Ichirin made a towny post wow
*4 real life days happen*
ok maybe Ichirin isn't town let's fight
WOW SO SUDDEN AND UNPRECEDENT OF YOU KAGEROU, YOU MUST B A MMBR OF THE MAFIA
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Post #1801 (isolation #203) » Thu Mar 14, 2024 10:31 am
Postby Kagerou Imaizumi »
In post 1773, Ichirin Kumoi wrote:
Part of me wanted to say that scumflip on Clownpiece exonerates Kagerou after catching a glance of this post but I have alot of issues with a similar more recent post:
You, Kagerou and Clownpiece for sure, Koishi could be trying to coast along without having to give in-depth analysis on me as an easy mislim, as I theorized. Otherwise I think Sanae and Tenshi just aren't really bothering to put in the effort to read me.
That's still like 4 townies at least who are legitimately thinking you're scum, i'm especially curious how clown is "in bad faith" where like, her case on you is quite voluminous
1. Did you miss the part where I said no one is in good faith or entirely aware of what's going on? Are you counting yourself as a "townie"? I can't say for sure if there's 2 or 3 scum, though I'm willing to bet 3 considering everyone is a power role, but either way I would think you'd understand that town being up for a wagon does not make it a good wagon inherently especially when the odds that scum are all just chilling nonchalantly on it are very high and that the majority of town who ARE on it just aren't fucking paying attention to the facts of the case or are being intentionally obtuse for some mysterious reason.
2. Obviously, I am of the firm belief that Clownpiece is not even remotely good faith right now, but what I want to call attention to is that I think Clownpiece was MORE good faith when you were saying she WASN'T. It's very mysterious as to why you said these conflicting things but I'm realizing that either way you two seem to love to defend eachother's reads on me.
you can't be both town and in bad faith, like, that doesn't add up
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Post #1971 (isolation #206) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 3:11 am
Postby Kagerou Imaizumi »
I guess i would not be completely against a Koishi lim but, in a sense it feels like Koishi wants the pressure on him while Ichirin is trying really hard to avoid it, if we're considering they have equal odds of flipping scum i'm absolutely staying on Ichi
My take on the Ichirin 2 scum comment was that it's either a slip or trying extremely hard to dumbtell to save hirself
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Post #1973 (isolation #208) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 3:17 am
Postby Kagerou Imaizumi »
Kaguya's laid back attitude as we're consolidating on wagons makes me think she's either scum or we're wagoning 3 townies and she kinda doesn't need to do anything
In post 2053, Kagerou Imaizumi wrote:
i mean, i don't really mind you no, i think you're town and that's what i get for flying too close to the sun
for the record i do feel bad if you are town here, i've been hard on you and i know that it's not fun to be on the receiving end. i just don't THINK you're town here so i am trying to shove my sympathies for you to the deepest recesses of my heart and stay the course
i am probably not getting my way today and am slowly beginning to accept it, so if you're town you will probably still have an opportunity to prove me wrong!
Uh, honestly no you haven't? Like yeah idk you're scumreading me big deal, i'd maybe be a bit more agitated about it you played agressive about it or something, but that's just to say that you're not doing anything wrong right now
Yeah idk, i hope it will come naturally, seems like we don't really have the same view around how to do townplay
but i am down for Clownpiece slot being protected by Koishi's role, although this will not dissuade from continuing to push for Koishi's elimination
You do realize we lose a lot of utility if you're wrong on Koishi
but for real, i don't really care? the priority is to eliminate scum. if i feel Koishi is scum, any potential utility we lose in the event that the are town will likely not prevent me from pushing for her elimination
Unless you think everyone else is town and you're some kind of mafia god there is no point in taking such a gamble and that's something i feel strongly about
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Post #2076 (isolation #226) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 6:37 am
Postby Kagerou Imaizumi »
In post 2070, Koishi Komeiji wrote:
(Obviously the "elim me before xylim" parts don't apply if I'm somehow cleared via other means but I'm not gonna sit here and say I'm worth copping just to keep me alive going into that phase if we get there over hitting others)
I mean, why would we need to lim you more than any other unconfirmed town player?
In post 2070, Koishi Komeiji wrote:
(Obviously the "elim me before xylim" parts don't apply if I'm somehow cleared via other means but I'm not gonna sit here and say I'm worth copping just to keep me alive going into that phase if we get there over hitting others)
I mean, why would we need to lim you more than any other unconfirmed town player?
Because with my claim public as of D1 me making it to that phase will naturally lad to me being super fishy and I don't feel like being the game-losing mis-elim? And if that does occur then heck, I brought a super townie slot to endgame for ya'll.
you could always act towny, i belive in you
pedit : holy shit daiyousei has said something i agree with, this is an important event
I mean, other than the protection not working if I'm dead?
I mean that's why I asked what happens if you get limmed and the way you answered I thought the protection still holds
If it doesn't - holy heck is this a good fake-claim for you not to be limmed any time soon if you're scum and I kinda hate it
People are falling for the same "Role = Alignment" trap they did with Ichirin in the other direction. If we think Koishi is scum we kill her today, if we don't we don't kill her
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Post #2271 (isolation #237) » Sat Mar 16, 2024 12:11 pm
Postby Kagerou Imaizumi »
sorry i promised reevaluation but actually i didn't do it <3
I guess i still think Ichirin is the elimination that's most attractive in my eyes, but people aren't really rushing to suggest alternatives (Koishi lim isn't happening) and i'd rather giving too much of a hint as to who i'm shooting tonight
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Post #2390 (isolation #242) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 12:51 am
Postby Kagerou Imaizumi »
I do agree on your reasons to townread Ichirin, and like, i think sie's barely above >rand for flipping scum, but i was thinking about who else i was voting if not hir and i kinda blanked on names, don't get me wrong i have scumreads, i'm just not getting them killed
i'm also more comfortable killing a role we know is at worse low utility anyways rather than outing more claims, we already have 3 roles out
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Post #2399 (isolation #244) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 1:45 am
Postby Kagerou Imaizumi »
In post 2398, Eternity Larva wrote:
today i learned Kagerou is claiming a dayvig shot and i am left questioning why they wouldn’t just keep this to themselves as scum and just shoot an obvtown player in the event they become the elimination for today
or why as scum they would just lie about a role that should be provable
i hate this for me
don't get me wrong i kinda wanted to keep it to myself
but then people started going "Lol Marisa has her final spark spellcard, does that mean Kagerou can vig someone?" And at this stage that probably takes away the point in hiding it
In post 2398, Eternity Larva wrote:
today i learned Kagerou is claiming a dayvig shot and i am left questioning why they wouldn’t just keep this to themselves as scum and just shoot an obvtown player in the event they become the elimination for today
or why as scum they would just lie about a role that should be provable
i hate this for me
don't get me wrong i kinda wanted to keep it to myself
but then people started going "Lol Marisa has her final spark spellcard, does that mean Kagerou can vig someone?" And at this stage that probably takes away the point in hiding it
especially since, to reiterate, it can't gain another shot in any way, so i'd rather people waste their actions trying that
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Post #2652 (isolation #255) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:00 pm
Postby Kagerou Imaizumi »
In post 2650, Clownpiece wrote:
tbh I think Sanae's recent positions suck and if I assume that all of Aya, Irchin, Koishi, Reisen, Marisa are all town, then Sanae becomes an immediate point of concern.
I mean, not to be rude but "If half the players are town maybe someone in the other half is scum" is not your greatest point
In post 2650, Clownpiece wrote:
tbh I think Sanae's recent positions suck and if I assume that all of Aya, Irchin, Koishi, Reisen, Marisa are all town, then Sanae becomes an immediate point of concern.
I mean, not to be rude but "If half the players are town maybe someone in the other half is scum" is not your greatest point
This comment is also not constructive. Did you think I just wrote a bunch of names there arbitrarily? Like, what are you doing?