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Post Post #10 (isolation #0) » Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:39 pm

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Terrance here! Phillip is currently farting with his girlfriend on the phone, but when they finish farting we'll post something else... although being RVS currently we'll probably just make a few more fart jokes. But, in case anyone's going to ask; yes, we are a hydra, our heads are in the signature.
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Post Post #11 (isolation #1) » Mon Apr 30, 2012 1:03 am

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"Hello, Terrance!"

"Who... who are you?"

"It's... it's me! I can't talk in blue, because that's the mod's color."

"Ohhhh.... I fart on the mod!"

"You can't do that, Phillip! It's against the rules!"

"I fart on the rules too!"

"Ahahahahahahahaha"

"Anyway, I do believe we need to vote someone. I vote you, Phillip!"

"That's... that's not how you vote!"

"Oh, sorry. VOTE: Phillip"

"I fart on your vote!"

"Oh no, not my vote!UNVOTE: "

"Um... why are you cleaning your vote, Terrance?"

"Because you farted on it, and now it is smelly, like your anus!"

"Oh, I'm sorry, Terrance. How about we give it to someone else?"

"Why yes, that's a great idea, Phillip!"

"Let's give it to SaintKerrigan, because he reminds me of Ugly Bob!"

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"Ahahahahahahahahaha"

VOTE: SaintKerrigan

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Post Post #50 (isolation #2) » Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:22 pm

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Yes, the rest of our posts will be more serious/less farty.

Well, we were originally going to do one at the start of each game day, but if they're that unpopular/annoying, we'll cut them out all together.

I'm waiting for my other head to arrive before posting serious content; we'd like to discuss and come to consensus and post with uniform opinion where possible. We will always consult each other before changing a vote.

However, I feel this obvious enough that I don't need to consult my other head:
In post 40, borkjerfkin wrote:regarding T&P: I think a lot of people here are overreacting to an intro post.
I like this post.

Content coming in somewhere between five and ten hours.
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Post Post #57 (isolation #3) » Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:55 pm

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In post 38, Nobody Special wrote:They'll probably just fart in your general direction.

Nope, just your direction...

No, seriously, we've got something.

In post 21, Nobody Special wrote:I hate random questions, but if I don't answer, everyone will point and call me scummy.

a) I prefer being 3rd party. I'm really, really good at it.

2) I lost count at 40 games. And I haven't updated my wiki in forever.

D) Pacific time (GMT-7 or -8)


So, you say that you don't like RQS, but decide to participate because you don't want to be called scummy. Also, this is your first post after we had our nice little fart sketch. However, you didn't vote us for playstyle until someone else did it first.

UNVOTE:
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In post 19, Thomith wrote:3- what is your timezone and how many times a day can we expect you to be posting?


Phillip's being a dick and refusing to answer the first two questions, but:
We're in +9:30 time zone, with one or two posts a day.

In post 49, TheFool wrote:Glowball's recent posts are pretty townesque.


... Glowball was just giving theory discussion in his last few posts before you said that... theory discussion is null.
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Post Post #88 (isolation #4) » Tue May 01, 2012 9:50 pm

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In post 84, borkjerfkin wrote:@LS: I've made it clear where I stand on the first post. Quite honestly, this is my first experience with a hydra: he's not contributed anything of value, and while that's bad, he's admitted that it's because the other "head" hasn't shown up yet; I won't tolerate that excuse for too long.

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In post 57, Terrance and Phillip wrote:
In post 38, Nobody Special wrote:They'll probably just fart in your general direction.

Nope, just your direction...

No, seriously, we've got something.

In post 21, Nobody Special wrote:I hate random questions, but if I don't answer, everyone will point and call me scummy.

a) I prefer being 3rd party. I'm really, really good at it.

2) I lost count at 40 games. And I haven't updated my wiki in forever.

D) Pacific time (GMT-7 or -8)


So, you say that you don't like RQS, but decide to participate because you don't want to be called scummy. Also, this is your first post after we had our nice little fart sketch. However, you didn't vote us for playstyle until someone else did it first.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Nobody Special

In post 19, Thomith wrote:3- what is your timezone and how many times a day can we expect you to be posting?


Phillip's being a dick and refusing to answer the first two questions, but:
We're in +9:30 time zone, with one or two posts a day.

In post 49, TheFool wrote:Glowball's recent posts are pretty townesque.


... Glowball was just giving theory discussion in his last few posts before you said that... theory discussion is null.


In post 86, Chrimi wrote:Dude. TheFool, I don't see where you're getting at all.

And lynching the most obv. town person in this game is NOT a good idea.

After all, she's the one getting us somewhere.

VOTE: TheFool

... We both agree with the majority of TheFool's post, actually... although I (Terrance) think that there's also the possibility of scum defending their scum buddy.

Phillip/2birds1stone, however, thinks assosciative tells are worthless when they're between two people who know each other well.

We still prefer the Nobody Special wagon. And not just because we started it.
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Post Post #144 (isolation #5) » Thu May 03, 2012 9:59 pm

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Phillip/2birds1stone here, this is a bit of a prod-dodge (you'd think that living with my other head would make this a lot easier, but oh well).

However, so as not to make this totally worthless, something we both agreed on unanimosly while playing
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In post 96, Lastsurvivor wrote:T&P, convince me to vote NS. Because what you've posted so far about him is not convincing.
Four pages into the game, we weren't going to be particularly convincing. Seriously.

Also, on reading, I no longer believe NS to be the best wagon, there are some interesting things going on now. Uh, I'm pretty sure we'll have our actual post and new vote tomorrow.
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Post Post #253 (isolation #6) » Sun May 06, 2012 12:41 am

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Terrance here, Phillip's sleeping but told me to make a post for us without him, so yeah. This is all me.

post 110 from RachMarie strikes me as really odd... why go to the bother of a nice fancy set out with one paragpraph for everyone if you're just going to say "null" for just about everyone... seems to me like scum trying to look like they're doing more work for town than they are... Chrimi, you've played with her, did she do that sort of thing in her games early on?
In post 119, Nobody Special wrote:
In post 113, glowball wrote:To be fair it's a 13 player game in day 1 on page 5 with less than awesome activity from some of the players. Any town reads would probably be relatively unsupported as would most scum reads. Why exactly does the amount of nulls this early bother you NS?

It's not just the sheer amount of null reads; it's the structure, the presentation -- it just seems very forced.


Just saw that Nobody Special said my exact thoughts.

In post 140, BK201 wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: Kassadin Too much soft-defense of him going around.


Too much soft defence? If anything, multiple people saying he's always like that shouldn't make him scum... if more that two people say it, then it's nothing scummy, cause you know, the scumteam has three people... so if they were defending him there'd only be two people soft defending him.

At page 7 BK is looking really bad...

It'd be nice to be able to metacheck our Rasberry friend...

In post 236, Lastsurvivor wrote:Just a "why I'm still voting T&P and you should too" update...

1) NS case. There's nothing really original there. Everything except the "you didn't vote us for playstyle until someone else did first" thing someone else said. And the actual original part is a huge stretch.


... someone saying "we like a wagon not just cause we started it" is something you can find scuminess from? We're scummy for making a less-than-serious remark about a wagon, which had nothing to do with the rest of the post at all. I think this is like when the adults looked too far into the Tale of Scrotie McBoggerBalls... it was complete nonsense, and they claimed it had several things that weren't there. Only instead it's you claiming that saying we like a wagon because we started it means that we're taking credit for a scum catch...
In post 144, Terrance and Phillip wrote:
In post 96, Lastsurvivor wrote:T&P, convince me to vote NS. Because what you've posted so far about him is not convincing.
Four pages into the game, we weren't going to be particularly convincing. Seriously.


Did you miss that, or do you just think he's making stuff up? We were putting forward something we thought was off, get stuff moving, and then other stuff happened. If you see someone do something slightly odd, do you keep them as your number one suspect for the entire day? Heck no, reads change as the game goes on. More stuff has happens.

So we're scummy for changing our mind about a wagon that started four pages in?

2) T&P denouncing town reads (for link, see link above). He shoots down TF's town read on Glowball just because he thinks theory talk is null. However, glowball had talked about more than theory when TF posted his town read. So not only is T&P denouncing town reads (which is bad for reasons I've already explained if you don't get it please ask), but he's also misrepping.


You say that even if it was just theory, it'd still be bad to say that it's not town in post 184. So, let's say the guy giving theory was scum. You're saying we should let someone think that someone who could easily be scum is town for terrible reasoning? No, that's just going to end horribly!

3) Now, the case in #1 isn't really that bad since it was an early case, right? Obviously he wasn't taking the case that seriously. Well, take note how T&P has pride in the case. It looks like T&P is saying "My wagon is good; you should hop on." Not what he said here. Basically, he's now distancing from the NS wagon since it's dying down. "We weren't going to be particularly convincing," they said. Well, it certainly seems like they were trying.


Looking back, the only reason I think that we would have said that Glowball's post(s) as solely theory is that we're Canadian and so we can't read US English. (basically we stuffed up in reading.)

But we explained why we changed our mind. Because reads change in game.

4) I feel like he's using the hydra excuse to coast. "Oh, my other head isn't here so I can't really do much other than say something incredibly obvious."

I don't know about Phillip, but I am not that low that I will chose to start lurking to try and stall out time. I become inactive when I'm actually unable to post.

BK201 seems off to me, but in the morning I'll throw a bucket of cold water on Phillip and ask him if he also sees BK201 as being off.

RachMarie's post mentioned at the start of this one makes me think a null/scum read on her... LastSurvivor picking on a page 4 wagon makes me think he's silly, but probably town...

rasberryman is looking about as useful as a rasberry... like, even less content than Phillip and I...

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Post Post #304 (isolation #7) » Sun May 06, 2012 10:14 pm

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Phillip/2birds1stone here, I'm not really seeing the big deal about BK201, despite what my other head thinks/said; the only scummy thing he's done is deflect attention to lurkers, and I've done that as town before -- there's a fine line between deflecting and pushing a wagon whilst under fire.

Having said that, we think we should ignore lurkers today -- if they don't get shot tonight, we can start lynching them, but right now, we need to keep some alive so as to give potential vigs something to prove their existance with.

We honestly don't see anything scummy about denouncing town reads. Scum getting obvtowned sucks [chocolate salty] balls, especially in LyLo; mid-strong townreads should probably be disputed just as hotly as scumreads. We do, however, admit to being wrong about glowball being only theory.

Also, we didn't "sheep away the instant you called us out on it", and no, you cannot expect good cases just out of RVS, if you could expect good cases just out of RVS, town would win 100% of the time. You look at what happened between the NS case and our next post, and if you can say that any sane townie could've stuck by that case given the interesting
shit
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However, your tunnel on us does seem town-motivated; it's a fairly useless tunnel for scum to be locked into.

I, Phillip/2birds1stone don't feel particularly motivated/compelled to vote anyone; however, Terrance wants to sheep the Rach wagon.

VOTE: RachMarie

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Post Post #365 (isolation #8) » Mon May 07, 2012 8:07 pm

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In post 312, RachMarie wrote:I had not noticed that til after our interchange TBH. Still my point is we do have a lot of loose cannons in this game after all look at T and P too.
At risk of sounding stupid [you are stupid, Terrance], what's a loose cannon?

In post 333, Lastsurvivor wrote:@T&P: Yeah, it does suck when scum is obvtowned into LYLO. It also sucks when there are few legitimate town reads to go around because scum keeps on denouncing them.
Would you rather have a bunch of wrong town reads, or few accurate town reads?

In post 340, BK201 wrote:
In post 304, Terrance and Phillip wrote:

I, Phillip/2birds1stone don't feel particularly motivated/compelled to vote anyone; however, Terrance wants to sheep the Rach wagon.

VOTE: RachMarie

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Alright you have a decent case LS. @Chrimi, I also don't like when people park on a wagon and leave. this above quote + LS's case is why imma vote the hydra. I don't like how you can throw out disclaimers in case things go bad by saying for example "I don't really want to vote this person, but my other head does, etc etc". A hydra should act as one being, not two people that share a vote and can save themselves with disclaimers.
UNVOTE:
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Phillip/2birds1stone here, to clarify: it's not a disclaimer. Well, to a degree it is, but it's not a "I think this wagon is a bad idea" disclaimer. It's a "meh, I don't actually feel particularly strongly about anyone atm", with Terrance going "Eeeeeeeee, killing time, let's lynch Rach". I'm like, "sure, she's as good a day one lynch as anyone". Unfortunately, we're only Canadian, we can't fully agree 100% of the time, but Terrance is not acting in contradiction with my opinion, and we do fully stand by each other's actions. That's why we're not voting BK201, because we want to act in a way we're both okay with.

In post 352, Chrimi wrote:Shit.
VOTE: T&P

Saw something.
... You did? Enlighten us, what did you see? Was it a... wait... no, we won't make a fart joke here... As much as we'd like to.

Rasp is a horrible wagon. Both Rasp and Kass need to live until day two, then we can start lynching them.
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Post Post #373 (isolation #9) » Tue May 08, 2012 12:12 am

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Okay, there are three days left in deadline, and there's one wagon which looks like lynching.

If we wait till L-1 for Rach to claim, we may not have time to assemble a new wagon.

We truly hate to no-lynch day one, we assume we're all familiar with the maths behind this.

So, we don't feel we're out of line in asking Rach to claim.
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Post Post #423 (isolation #10) » Tue May 08, 2012 10:54 pm

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In post 411, Lastsurvivor wrote:
In post 365, Terrance and Phillip wrote:Would you rather have a bunch of wrong town reads, or few accurate town reads?


:/ I don't see why you don't get it. You're not a town white knight for destroying people's town reads. It doesn't work like that.
... uh, that's a little harsh, but maybe we use the term 'white knight' a little differently. Meh, we honestly don't see any reason not to argue town reads just as fiercly as scum reads, to not debate them cuts down on an avenue of discussion, and we honestly don't see any benefit to letting a townread we disagree with slide.

In post 412, Chrimi wrote:I am seeing what you are seeing, I never said I didn't see more.
Dude, quit stalling the lynch. You're claiming to have information on us, and it makes people not want to lynch anyone else (Rach) yet. You're not revealing what that information is, which is putting people off lynching us.

Meh, guess we found Rach's partner, when she flips scum, our vote's on you.
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Post Post #458 (isolation #11) » Wed May 09, 2012 9:09 pm

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We're doing these next two posts somewhat unusually, because I, Phillip, really, REALLY want to rip into Rach's case, and Terrance's influence on my post is going to prevent me from doing this my usual way.

So, I'm going spend the next paragraph [counter]productively yelling, and Terrance is going to post content content.

Becuase Rach's case is total bull and the sheeping is fucked. Last's case on us is reasonable, but all the extra stuff Rach added is either misrep or nonsensical.

However look at the bold text here this looks like buddying up to TF though he goes back to his wagon he started (with no real basis for voting for NS in the first place. He started a wagon and never really made a case on NS. He then later when it did not pick up much steam and people (primarily LS) started questioning him, instead of building an actual case, backed down and said well there was not much going on. Could that perhaps be, because he knew NS was town? Which the only way he could know FOR SURE is because he is scum.
"OMFG, they agreed with someone, that must be buddying", followed by a claim that we never posted a case WHEN WE DID, ON PAGE THREE OF THIS GAME! Yeah, it was a weak case BECAUSE IT WAS PAGE THREE OF THIS GAME. It was also, coincidentally, the longest post up until that point in the game, so don't try the 'no content' BS, we've posted much more content than you and your null-reads-except-on-the-only-wagon-that-will-guarantee-your-survival. THE ONLY SCUMREAD YOU HAVE IS THE ONLY PLAYER WHO MIGHT BE LYNCHED APART FROM YOU, I DON'T THINK THAT'S A COINCIDENCE. That's some bloody extreme self-preservation.

Yeah, we then backed down from our case, BECAUSE IT WAS A PAGE-THREE CASE, frankly, it's not that often people pick scum three pages into a game.

You put that much effort into your case on us, and totally missed the context? That's... that's really not a town move.

You then quote a fluff post which was marked as a prod dodge, I really put a lot of work into disguising the prod-dodge marked as a prod-dodge too. You then try to pretend we didn't post content since then DESPITE QUOTING SUBSEQUENT POSTS, which honestly say a lot more than yours do.

Oh, and this is the greatest fucking misrep I've ever seen in mafia, this next quote is amazing.
Again look at the bolded parts here. Town does not know who the potential PRs are, we may or may not have a vig to "take care of the lurkers". Mentioning NK seems scummy as well. As town, our focus should be on DAYTIME scum hunting, not trying to figure out night actions.
I know we may not have a vig to take care of lurkers, that's why THE WORD 'POTENTIAL' IS IN THERE. That's why we lynch them IF THEY DON'T GET SHOT, and not "don't lynch them ever at all in a million years". WE WAIT UNTIL TOMORROW, AS I'VE POINTED OUT ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS, SORRY IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND CONDITIONALS. Also, I disagree strongly about "shouldn't speculate about the night game". If you haven't noticed (which you have, because you're scum), scum know the town PRs, and town don't. That puts us at an information disadvantage. Sure, PR speculation shouldn't take up the entire game, but it's definately important.

Yeah, we sheeped a good wagon, sue us.

ONCE AGAIN, YOU DON'T SEEM TO GET THAT LURKERS NEED TO LIVE TILL DAY TWO! They are vig fodder. If they don't die tonight, we don't have a vig, and we lynch them because they are no longer useful even as vig fodder. WE HAVE MADE THIS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR, BUT APPARENTLY THIS IS A COMPLEX CONCEPT.

Yes, we wanted you to claim. You looked like the lynch, I would've killed myslef had you claimed a PR and we had to start a new wagon within 72 hours. Town actually surprised me here and did manage to start another wagon, but not without disassembling yours. I still think you should claim, TBH.

Lynch happy are we? On the surface this sounds like pushing for information on a read to insure the town has what it needs which seems towny, but combined with the rest of the stuff could be one of two things:
Yes. 72 hours from a deadline, and we are lynch happy. Discuss all you want before that, but at 72 hours mark, the lynch needs to be made, unless it's a LyLo or similarly important lynch.

Oh, and to top the whole thing off, you claim that we're at L-2 despite us really being at L-1. Forgive me if I'm not going to take that as a mistake.

Tracker here. Or are we multiple trackers, seeing as there are two of us?

So, that was me getting all that out of my system, Terrance is now going to post "what's going on in the rest of the game", and hopefully find more evidence pointing towards Chrimi's scumminess, because I haven't forgotten him.
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Post Post #460 (isolation #12) » Wed May 09, 2012 9:26 pm

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After pulling Phillip away from the keyboard after he nearly broke it, I, Terrance, the more awesome of the two of us, is going to say something without being angry. Find it funny that I was the one who went to the school counsellor with anger management issues...

In post 435, Lastsurvivor wrote:
In post 423, Terrance and Phillip wrote:... uh, that's a little harsh, but maybe we use the term 'white knight' a little differently. Meh, we honestly don't see any reason not to argue town reads just as fiercly as scum reads, to not debate them cuts down on an avenue of discussion, and we honestly don't see any benefit to letting a townread we disagree with slide.


There's a difference between what you did and debating a town read though. The way you posted was like "Lol no, Glowball was only giving theory he's not town." That's not really debate, that's destructive. A more reasonable way to debate a town read would be something like...I dunno, "Why do you think Glowball's recent posts are town? We felt they were just theory."

You're right, there is absolutely nothing wrong with debating a town read. You just didn't...really debate it.


So, you have a problem with the way we worded it as opposed to our motives. While we phrased it like that, it can still be done any other way. It's like saying "You're scum!" as opposed to "I think you're scum". They mean exactly the same thing, and are just worded slightly differently. You can still discuss it without needing it that way. It's not as nice, and if I were playing as just me I wouldn't say it, but Phillip's a more agressive player than me when it comes to personality and so some things are going to be not as nicely worded as they could be. But the content can still be argued the same way. You just have to work around it.

In post 428, Thomith wrote:any reasoning?
In post 429, Chrimi wrote:
In post 417, Lastsurvivor wrote:
In post 415, RachMarie wrote:Ok I am back from the doc in Oakdale, now will go through ISOs and get back with a vote and a case.


Just do this and we'll be all good. ;)

Don't lynch her while she's working on a case, that's why.


... that's not reasoning why someone's town. That's reason why we should wait before lynching someone.

Chrimi claiming to have something extra against us without saying anything, and then saying someone is town because they're promising a case of their own is not very townie... looks to me like he's trying to help out a buddy... telling us not to lynch someone because they're coming with a case is fair enough, but saying they won't flip scum because of it seems odd... Since when did a delayed case mean town?
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Post Post #462 (isolation #13) » Wed May 09, 2012 10:05 pm

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In post 458, Terrance and Phillip wrote:Tracker here.

Kassadin wrote:No claim?

Got it in one, Kass
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Post Post #639 (isolation #14) » Mon May 14, 2012 1:37 pm

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Saint Kerrigan visited no-one.

Well, actually, Om of the Nom visited no-one, but it's all semantics really.

Just popped in to post our result, my head will be home later tonight, we'll vote then.
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Post Post #652 (isolation #15) » Mon May 14, 2012 1:48 pm

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drmyshotgun wrote:Why Kerrigan?
a) Lurker. Lurkers are always hard to read.
b) Replaced. We have a hard time reading replacements.
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Post Post #656 (isolation #16) » Mon May 14, 2012 1:54 pm

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In post 653, drmyshotgun wrote:Mmm, so you chose them over RachMarie to track? Lol, okay.
Stop asking questions I can answer without my other head! I like posting with my other head!

Why would we investigate one of our lynch targets? We're going to push their lynches regardles of the results we get, especially given that it's difficult for us to confirm anyone. Also, a lot of other people want her dead, it seems a waste of a night to investigate someone who's going to die anyway. Much better to check people who we can't read.
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Post Post #734 (isolation #17) » Tue May 15, 2012 12:52 am

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We were going to break our Rach tunnel in favour of drmyshotgun until he self-confirmed...

Hey, do we honestly want our vig waste their second shot on Kassadin? What do we think of policy lynching him instead? Doesn't have to be today if we do, just saying the vig might want to save their second shot for scum.

Anyone who'd support a Kasslynch today/tomorrow, be awesome and say so now. We're willing to lynch Kassadin today, but Rach is better.

VOTE: RachMarie

She's now at L-1.

Hey, remember when we suggested a link between Chrimi and Rach day one? Anyway, just noticed that Chrimi's not on Rach's wagon. Meh, maybe nothing, but worth noting.
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Post Post #971 (isolation #18) » Sun May 20, 2012 9:10 pm

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Terrance here without Phillip.

Must say it was quite an enjoyable game. My first scum game other than a newbie that I replaced into at Day 3. From this experience hydras would appear better to play as if you're in a town slot because it means that your arguments are entirely about what's happening as opposed to what you should/shouldn't say at different points. Quite a lot of the time there were moments where I wanted to post longer paragraphs as I usually do but Phillip kept farting on me and telling me not to bother. (sorry, I just can't help myself with fart comments while under this name)

Anyway, hope to see y'all around. Phillip will probably come in sometime soon and make a post of some sort about the game.
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Post Post #973 (isolation #19) » Sun May 20, 2012 11:39 pm

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We'll link the QT if it's okay with Rach and Glowball.
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Post Post #974 (isolation #20) » Mon May 21, 2012 12:50 am

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Phillip without Terrance.

I actually enjoyed that game.

Not much else to say, other than thank you glowball for pretty much carrying us to victory; it's not easy having both your buddies at L-1 on day one, and it's even worse when they claim forgetting that we gave town three
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We would post hydra QT, but we don't have one due to living together.

I'm not one for witholding scum QTs, but I'm not one for intentionally antagonising scumbuddies I enjoyed playing with either, so I'll wait for one or both of them to agree first.
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Post Post #975 (isolation #21) » Mon May 21, 2012 12:53 am

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Oh, also, mad props to Last, that was a seriously awesome tunnel.
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Post Post #983 (isolation #22) » Mon May 21, 2012 1:36 pm

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