Open 397: Pick Your Poison! Game Over!

[BK201]

The case on T&P from BK sounds more like an objection against hydras in general. That is fallacious.

I think you misunderstood. I'm against

how

T&P is using hyrdra. He responded saying his disclaimers are not disclaimers, but in fact they remain disclaimers. You can weasel out of much more when you say one head wanted to vote player x for reason y, but the other head can/will claim to not have been too sure and would have not voted player x for reason y, but decided to listen to the other head, and stating the other head admits his mistake, thus seemingly giving the power to the other head as punishment.

Basically the way T&P uses the hydra is scummy.

[Thomith]

seems like you just explained the definition of a hydra to me...

[BK201]

uh well that's kind of stupid if all hydras become resistant to lynches just for being hydras.

[Thomith]

wut?
all you said is that it is scummy that they are waiting on each others opinions and that they are disagreeing with each other, so i dont see that being resistant to lynches.

[BK201]

It is when you can say half of you didn't (really) want to do it. If that was one player saying half of him didn't want to do it, he would be lynched on the spot.

[BK201]

I'm sure you can use a Hydra without giving all kinds of disclaimers.

[Thomith]

It is when you can say half of you didn't (really) want to do it. If that was one player saying half of him didn't want to do it, he would be lynched on the spot.

i think i understand what you mean here, but it does sort of seem that you are being more critical of them because they are a hydra.

[BK201]

Well I admit that much. but still.

[Lastsurvivor]

Okay, there are three days left in deadline, and there's one wagon which looks like lynching.

If we wait till L-1 for Rach to claim, we may not have time to assemble a new wagon.

We truly hate to no-lynch day one, we assume we're all familiar with the maths behind this.

So, we don't feel we're out of line in asking Rach to claim.

BAD BAD THIS IS BAD.

No, we don't claim at L-2 just for you, scum. That's bad.

@Chrimi: I've already said what I see. Now what about you?

[Chrimi]

Yes, I am seeing what you are seeing, if you have already said what you are seeing.

[BK201]

I'm VLA till thursday mid-day. get on this T&P vote kass.

Noted. - Elmo

[Lastsurvivor]

Yes, I am seeing what you are seeing, if you have already said what you are seeing.

Oh oops. I thought you were referring to something else. I haven't already said what I see. <_<

So you don't see anything then?

Would you rather have a bunch of wrong town reads, or few accurate town reads?

:/ I don't see why you don't get it. You're not a town white knight for destroying people's town reads. It doesn't work like that.

[Chrimi]

I am seeing what you are seeing, I never said I didn't see more.

[Lastsurvivor]

I am seeing what you are seeing, I never said I didn't see more.

How cryptic.

Anyway, Rach still is making a lot of noise...but she's not including CONTENT. In 1206, under that layer of noise there was always stuff. Not here.

Do you see that Chrimi?

[Chrimi]

I did not notice that until you pointed it out.

But yes, I would have to agree.

[RachMarie]

Ok I am back from the doc in Oakdale, now will go through ISOs and get back with a vote and a case.

@LS it is a bit hard to get much content when we have so little of it posted to actually analyze. How do you analyze a one word post like eh, for example? But I will do my best.

[Chrimi]

And...

She's still doing it O.o

[Lastsurvivor]

Ok I am back from the doc in Oakdale, now will go through ISOs and get back with a vote and a case.

Just do this and we'll be all good.

[SaintKerrigan]

What is this madness

Can't promise content tonight, too tired and stress, but I'll get you something tomorrow evening at latest.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

The Fool has been prodded. & Nice to see you posting Saint

[TheFool]

Eep, sorry, thought I'd posted more recently than that.

im following the wagon

Blunt honesty is a towntell here, I feel.

Jeez bork is town. For like all of page 16.

Reasonable town read on LS as well.

@LS it is a bit hard to get much content when we have so little of it posted to actually analyze. How do you analyze a one word post like eh, for example? But I will do my best.

This rings somewhat hollow 17 pages into the game.

BK is also looking town, and his points (as well as others') on T&P form a good case. I'd be willing to throw my vote that way, but I'd rather have a rasp lynch. The case on T&P is the better case, but my gut read on rasp is strong. Don't think Rach is a good lynch choice, though I think the case has merit.

[Chrimi]

Blunt honesty is a

town

troll

tell here, I feel.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Nobody Special has requested replacement

[Terrance and Phillip]

Would you rather have a bunch of wrong town reads, or few accurate town reads?

:/ I don't see why you don't get it. You're not a town white knight for destroying people's town reads. It doesn't work like that.

... uh, that's a little harsh, but maybe we use the term 'white knight' a little differently. Meh, we honestly don't see any reason not to argue town reads just as fiercly as scum reads, to not debate them cuts down on an avenue of discussion, and we honestly don't see any benefit to letting a townread we disagree with slide.

I am seeing what you are seeing, I never said I didn't see more.

Dude, quit stalling the lynch. You're claiming to have information on us, and it makes people not want to lynch anyone else (Rach) yet. You're not revealing what that information is, which is putting people off lynching us.

Meh, guess we found Rach's partner, when she flips scum, our vote's on you.

[Chrimi]

Except she won't flip scum