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I am going to go 3 pages at a time.
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In post 10, Thomith wrote:also:
1- what allignment do you prefer playing as, town or scum?
scum for sure, i like being evil and i prefer being the informed minority, of course that doesn't mean i don't try as town .
2- how many games have you played before this one?
this is something like my 17th game, i lost count
3- what is your timezone and how many times a day can we expect you to be posting?
my timezone is the UK one (no clue if it is GMT or BST i get confused between the two... 19:31 as of the time posting so...) and i will try to post at least once a day, if not more.
1) Town
2) A bunch
3) I post a bunch a day, EST
Also, Thomith is town. Just because I would never RQS and say I LOVE LOVE LOVE being scum when I was scum, it's fucking weird.
In post 26, kondi2424 wrote:Forgot about those
1: Scum. More satisfaction in deceiving people than stopping them.
2: A lot. Somewhere around 40 on-site.
3: CDT, depends on how interesting the conversation is
Also, the question couldn't really give scum away. It's just asking when scum can talk.
PEdit: In that case, Ven's #21 suspicion of the non-posters is.borderline townslip
NO NO NO YOU ARE NOT DOING THIS KONDI. Have you noticed something? Every time you say someone townslips they flips scum! I am a prime example of this in Open 399. Stop with the townslip mumbo jumbo!
Oh, ew, drop that townread on Thomith.In post 29, Thomith wrote:Venmar why are you throwing around stupid suspicion on players who havent posted yet, it is not scummy at all, and don't see why you brought it up.
EW REALLY DROP ITIn post 32, Thomith wrote:so venmar throwing around WIFOMy suspicion which makes little sense is fine but me questioning it is scummy.
lolk.
Oh, here we go, Kondi is being flip floppy and master detective as usual, he's conftown.In post 34, kondi2424 wrote:Actually, rethinking that. Thomith and MrBump probably aren't scum together.
VOTE: MrBump Gimme a scum meta and a town meta.
In post 36, kondi2424 wrote:Because you somehow failed to read where I said Venmar townslipped. But then I realized you are Thomith so it's okay.
You should vote MrBump.
THIS MEANS NOTHING EXCEPT THAT YOU ARE TOWNIn post 43, kondi2424 wrote:He suspected the people that hadn't posted yet of talking in their QT, and after that, the Mod told us that the scum planned in their QT before the game started.
Oh. I don't know how I feel about this post. Tad aggressive for so early in the game with a player having not posted.
How did confirmation work this round? Did everyone receive a PM to go confirm in thread or not?In post 58, SnakePlissken wrote:Venmar have you ever considered the reason that people confirmed so close together is because it's when ey got an email that the role PM had arrived and like myself at that point logged on and confirmed? For my part I should point out that I am pretty much V/LA at weekends and my wife was recently diagnosed with cancer so we are in and out of hospital fairly frequently so I post when I can get 5 minutes to myself.
That said there's nothing going on currently which peaks my interest in the way of scummy reads thus far. I've only people on here I've been in a game with is Kondi and I recently modded a game with Thomith in, so Im taking In how I see everyone posting first. Then I'll make my judgement. Although your constant pressure for everybody to post every 30 seconds or something is a tad disconcerting. It almost falls into looking to eager and you are actually scum trying to look town by being Mr Scumhunter superstar.SlappyKrust-
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In post 77, Malakittens wrote:
Also, I'm smack in the middle for a read on MrBump. He's already pointed out that I'm only answering things that are directly at me. I don't /really/ see a problem with that since we were just on page 2 and also because it's Day 1. I'm not sure if he as a scum will use that later on to get me lynched or it's actually a townie trying to get someone to be more useful. As days go on I'll be a lot more useful once solid content comes. Which means I'll be doing scum hunting and questioning everything that I don't see/agree with.
Malakittens is scum.
The lack of committal to a read along with the going on and ON AND ON about it is scum trying to keep their hands clean.
Oh my God. What the fuck is wrong with a game where I have 4 scum reads of 6 players. that was SO OMGUSyIn post 85, SnakePlissken wrote:I should add that I currently believe that the scum team is Mr. bump and Venmar, before anyone thinks I'm just throwing votes around.
Thomith, Mala, Venmar, and Snake so far.
Oh thank God at least you are town, Kondi. Thank God we at least have you.In post 101, kondi2424 wrote:Alright. I've went through possible teams, eliminated people who are town, and determined that the scum is in one of these:
MrBump-Trollie
MrBump-Thomith
Snake-Trollie
Snake-Thomith
Trollie-Thomith
Notice that all possible teams have either Trollie or Thomith in them.
Why do people do this? T.T Hey, let's give scum a lynchlist.In post 105, Venmar wrote:Town / Leaning Town:
1)Venmar-Me
2)Kondi- Not 100%, but he hasn't given me any bad vibes as of yet and has good feedback. However, i am naturally suspicious of him, but really that is just a small fraction that isn't effecting my view of him all that much.
3)MalaKitten- Mostly leaning, but is giving good vibes for me.
Null:
4)TheTrollie- Hasn't posted much or anything of much relevance. Null to the max.
5)MrBump- He hasn't necessarily given me really bad vibes but at the same time he hasn't really given me much town vibes. Some of his posts are edgy though and some reactions as well. I will need to reread the thread for Bump, but for now i feel null about him.
Leaning Scum:
6)Snake- Comes in with a unexplained vote on MrBump. Given he hasn't really contributed much at all yet, it looks like he is bandwagoning on MrBump right now. He also thinks that if someone is on L-1 they should claim, i really disagree with this. Claims should only be made after someone expresses intent to hammer. Snake, for the time being, is the scummiest player in the game right now.
7)Thomith- Mostly null, but i naturally find how Thomith plays and how he responds to people and how he questions, i find all those scummy. This might just be how Thomith plays though. Mostly scummy vibes and little to no town vibes from him make me very suspicious.
- I will reread the thread and ISO Thomith and MrBump, i don't know if my reads on them are as accurate as i would like them to be, especially MrBump who i am having second thoughts on. Regardless, at the moment i feel like Snake is the scummiest player right, and on that note,
Vote: Snake
OH THANK GOD MR BUMP IS TOWN.In post 123, MrBump wrote:HAHAHA
HAHAHAHA
Sorry, TheTrollie's last post just hurt my eyes.
Are you saying bussing is completely impossible? One of your biggest FoS's is INSANTLY town because he may never bus?
Are you for real?
Okay, allow me some time to ask a question. Why am I scum?
kondi basically went "he looks scummy", along with Thomith, and everyone tunnelled me from there while giving no solid reasons. "He's cautious". Are you serious? That's not a reason bah gawd.
Anyway, time to claim, because apparently 5/6 players want me dead for reasons I still don't understand. Vanilla Townie. AND NOT ONE THING WAS ACHIEVED THAT DAY.
Town:
Me
Kondi
Mr. Bump
I REALLY REALLY REALLY hope I get one more townread before pg 9 so help me God because then we can deal with the 2 scum.SlappyKrust-
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In post 220, kondi2424 wrote:Matt, you're like a master scum player. I'm pretty sure Venmar couldn't fake a townslip like that. (No offense to Venmar of course)
And I actually do have a good record of finding townslips. You're the only one I've ever gotten wrong.
Kondi, baby, you've messed up more than your townslip on me but [ongoing]
I am just so happy you're this town, it makes me big ol day <3SlappyKrust-
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Thomith moves up a bit on the town-scum spectrum to null for having sense. Thank goodness.In post 152, Thomith wrote:ok you know what
UNVOTE:
i agree with bump here, a few of these votes look convenient, so bumps logic makes sense to me, right now i want snake and the replacement to chime in before voting.
I hate this.In post 154, SnakePlissken wrote:Chime in with what? I'm town nothing more to say, although I would point out if you do lynch me you will put us at a disadvantage.
But I hate this even more. You have no reason to be this annoyed at him, it reads fake and you striving for a mislynch on Snake.In post 158, Malakittens wrote:I really do not like soft claims, either you claim or you don't claim. -_-
In post 161, Malakittens wrote:No because if you are soft claiming as a scum then you are avoiding a lynch.
If you are soft claiming as a town then you have literally just painted a nice easy NK target.
I want Mala lynched.
I will push for a Mala lynch today. Mala will flip scum.SlappyKrust-
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In post 158, Malakittens wrote:I really do not like soft claims, either you claim or you don't claim. -_-
This is fake
And Mala can me scum with Venmar too, but you have a townread on himSlappyKrust-
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In post 236, Venmar wrote:In post 235, MattP wrote:Both your townreads are based off of townslips that aren't townslips :/
Work with me on Mala. If she flips town my vote it yours all round.
- Problem is that if she flips town we will be at LyLo tomorrow. Not much of a vote gain for just 1 day, and kind of bad if Kondi is actually scum. Then again, i know you Mattp, you're a good player, so your read could be reliable depending if we can trust you to be town.
^How can you tell me town would say this, Kondi :/SlappyKrust-
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Yeah, rereading I don't think Thomith would stop the L-1 wagon on Bump just to bus his partner Snake so I don't see that combo anyway.
That leaves two possibilities for scumteams, thomith/bump and venmar/mala. Since Bump is a townread I know venmar/mala is the scumteam, and I will not agree to any other lynches.SlappyKrust-
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In post 238, kondi2424 wrote:It's Venmar. -_-
What? You can't just say "it's venmar" when the only game you've played with venmar he was scum.SlappyKrust-
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In post 242, Venmar wrote:I think i figured out how Mattp plays. Be an asshole.
It's fine, but if Mattp pisses me off again i will replace out.
Seriously? I have been cordial towards you since being in this game and you want to be immature like this? Then just replace out, I'm not going to walk on eggshells this entire game because you plan to threaten me any time I ever think you are scum. That actually really pisses me off, Venmar.
Additionally, this seems like a really low attempt to make me stop targeting you. I have never seen anyone do this before and it's very insulting.SlappyKrust-
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You know what, screw this.
Replace me
I didn't join a game to deal with this. I thought we were on good terms after last game Venmar, but it turns out you are unable to have any semblance of maturity. If you are scum and did this to dissaude me from tunneling you I will make sure the mods know about this.SlappyKrust-
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Cancel replacement
Fuck you, absolutely fuck you. I was understanding of when YOU were upset but you pull "hahahah dafuq" on me when I am.
You know you just did that to stick to a shitty town meta of you being angry at me and threatening to replace when I mistake you as scum when you are town.
YOU JUST STOOPED THAT FUCKING LOW
That is the poorest sportsmanship I've ever seen. Replacing is not a game strategy, you little twit.
Now fucking replace if you want because I'm staying.SlappyKrust-
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Look at this game for reference:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=22335
I fakeclaimed dayvig and shot venmar in it and he got pissed and called me an asshole and replaced out. We were both town.
This game I do nothing to venmar but say I have a scumread on him and he sticks to his town meta by saying he will replace out.
That is not good sportsmanship, that is incredibly disrespectable, and on top of that, it confirms he is scum playing to a meta he's created with me.
It does not read authentic at all this time. Kondi, I really hope you see this. It was basically a scumslip.SlappyKrust-
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In post 263, Malakittens wrote:Actually I'm not lurking I been sick all day.
If I flip town, I'd advise you to look at MattyP for pushing the lynch so hard. I do hate soft claims but that's not a scum tell.Seems like you are pushing a lynch on someone, but you never considered that I might actually be town.
Wut? This post reeks.
#1, "I flip town"?!IF
#2, you're bolded underlined italicized part reads fake as hell and is just weird and pointless.
#3, I have SEEN you on the thread, now you're lying!SlappyKrust-
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In post 255, Venmar wrote:Sure.
Hoopla, i apologize for all that happened in the last few posts, i take full responsibility for the actions that happened. If it makes things better, please, i do feel bad now. Either way, i am sorry if i offended you Mattp, but that is not how i ever meant anything, even if it looks like it.penalize me in some fashion
In advance, i also apologize to the game.
Unvote: Venmar
Please Replace Me Hoopla
Add those to his replacement thing earlier.
Sorry, Venmar, I have to use these things because you are scum.SlappyKrust-
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In post 236, Venmar wrote:In post 235, MattP wrote:Both your townreads are based off of townslips that aren't townslips :/
Work with me on Mala. If she flips town my vote it yours all round.
- Problem is that if she flips town we will be at LyLo tomorrow. Not much of a vote gain for just 1 day, and kind of bad if Kondi is actually scum. Then again, i know you Mattp, you're a good player, so your read could be reliable depending if we can trust you to be town.
This post is Venmar responding to my desire to lynch Mala, it is an incredibly scummy post because he basically says he is willing to sheep more for an opportunistic lynching of a player. Pretty much, Venmar is confscum. But let's find his partner.SlappyKrust-
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I really hate you kondi for that hammer.
Why would you wait for a replacement to not even give everyone a chance to say their thoughts about what I've brought up?
I will probably be NKd tonight. Venmar is scum, he practically claimed it, and I have no idea how the fuck you all missed it.
That is all.SlappyKrust-
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In post 308, Venmar wrote:Kondi isn't a bad player, stop being an ass by the way.
I never said that, but it's cut that you misrep me to be Kondi's white knight to buddy him so that he votes with you. Charming!SlappyKrust-
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In post 310, Venmar wrote:Kondi's town reads are much more accurate than your scum reads. So i trust Kondi more.
This is probably a town vs town debate, so let's just hush and wait for Hoopy.
Oh really? Kondi's townreads in 399 were off, and you saw me in the game you replaced out of call BB scum correctly by her FIRST post, so why did you come to that assumption? Because I have a scumread on you?
Obviously you will "trust" kondi more when I have a scumread on you. What a strange thing to say.SlappyKrust-
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Well awesome.
I'm going through every player again. This is all going to be from my perspective.
Let's start with Venmar. If Mr. Bump is town then Venmar is town meaning Thomith and Kondi are scum.
If Mr. Bump is scum then Thomith is town and either Kondi or Venmar are scum.
So we have the following combos left:
Thomith-Kondi
Mr. Bump-Venmar
Mr. Bump-Kondi
This destroys my Venmar-Thomith theory. So I'll go over shit again.SlappyKrust-
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In post 299, MrBump wrote:
Matt vs Venmar is Town vs Town and completely retarded. I have a head shaped hole in my table. It's SO STUPID.
In post 333, MrBump wrote:
Before I continue, I am Cop with an Innocent on Venmar. Yeah, me claiming Cop looks back. I hate it when this happens. *yawns*
Then why the fuck did you investigate Venmar?
Scumslip lol.
Mr. Bump is scum and I don't even care.
VOTE: Mr. BumpSlappyKrust-
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^Oh that was easy.
Venmar is scum with Mr. Bump, trying to soft push around a lynch onto Thomith.SlappyKrust