Open 415: Bird 7P (Game Over)

[Venmar]

Sceptical right now if MrBump is scum, i am really null here.

Anyone has intent to hammer?

[kondi2424]

Alright. I've went through possible teams, eliminated people who are town, and determined that the scum is in one of these:

MrBump-Trollie
MrBump-Thomith
Snake-Trollie
Snake-Thomith
Trollie-Thomith

Notice that all possible teams have either Trollie or Thomith in them.

[Venmar]

Alright. I've went through possible teams, eliminated people who are town, and determined that the scum is in one of these:

MrBump-Trollie
MrBump-Thomith
Snake-Trollie
Snake-Thomith
Trollie-Thomith

Notice that all possible teams have either Trollie or Thomith in them.

What happened to MrBump? Why go for him if you think Thomith and Trollie have a much higher chance of being scum?
What is so scummy about Trollie?

[kondi2424]

They don't have a

higher

chance of being scum. Those are just the possible teams; I'm personally betting on MrBump-Trollie.

Trollie isn't scummy, but he's impossible to read right now.

[kondi2424]

Venmar, what are your reads on everyone?

[Venmar]

Town / Leaning Town:
1)

Venmar

-Me
2)

Kondi

- Not 100%, but he hasn't given me any bad vibes as of yet and has good feedback. However, i am naturally suspicious of him, but really that is just a small fraction that isn't effecting my view of him all that much.
3)

MalaKitten

- Mostly leaning, but is giving good vibes for me.

Null:
4)

TheTrollie

- Hasn't posted much or anything of much relevance. Null to the max.
5)

MrBump

- He hasn't necessarily given me really bad vibes but at the same time he hasn't really given me much town vibes. Some of his posts are edgy though and some reactions as well. I will need to reread the thread for Bump, but for now i feel null about him.

Leaning Scum:
6)

Snake

- Comes in with a unexplained vote on MrBump. Given he hasn't really contributed much at all yet, it looks like he is bandwagoning on MrBump right now. He also thinks that if someone is on L-1 they should claim, i really disagree with this. Claims should only be made after someone expresses intent to hammer. Snake, for the time being, is the scummiest player in the game right now.
7)

Thomith

- Mostly null, but i naturally find how Thomith plays and how he responds to people and how he questions, i find all those scummy. This might just be how Thomith plays though. Mostly scummy vibes and little to no town vibes from him make me very suspicious.

- I will reread the thread and ISO Thomith and MrBump, i don't know if my reads on them are as accurate as i would like them to be, especially MrBump who i am having second thoughts on. Regardless, at the moment i feel like Snake is the scummiest player right, and on that note,

Vote: Snake

[kondi2424]

Two things -

First, what is your opinion on my reasoning for voting MrBump?

Second, yes, this is Thomith's usual play.

[Thomith]

@bump, page 4 is a little early for me to get town reads strong enough to anounce them, you are making out like i have accused every player in the game, when i really haven't.

[Venmar]

First, what is your opinion on my reasoning for voting MrBump?

Hmm, i think i asked you a question regarding MrBump... right here: and you still haven't answered.

I'm not sure if Kondi is making friends with me due to the fact it's scum wanting to become close with town or if it's a town with a role that wants to become close with another townie. >.> Also what makes me wonder is saying claiming someone is town just because of something someone posted really early on the thread. That's sort of a really early read and it makes me think like he knows something that everyone else does. -__- Though I think that would be too obvious for a scum to do that, but then again if they TALKED prior to the start of the Day makes me wonder if its part of a plan after all.

Sigh, sadly my posting might be a bit not as much as I planned. I had to emergency replace someone off another site and they don't like super short posts like here and they have to be huge and long and actually concrete or else it's considered scum. Though the deadlines are much shorter there then here so during the silence nights there I can actually focus here during that time period. They had me replace on the Starting of D6 and I have to go read through almost 1,600 posts to figure out who I think may be scum and why. >.>

I don't see why you made the giant fluff paragraph about your off-site game. Nobody was saying you are not posting enough, at ease. Premature defenses like these don't flow smoothly with me, but honestly this is hardly a reason to be suspicious.

@Kondi

- Can you explain to me why would we want to lynch MrBump? Right now all i see is assumptions and accusations that MrBump is making accusations but not actually directing them / addressing them. Also something about scummeta and townmeta. Would you be so kind and clear this up to me?

So, why are you voting for him? Like i said, all i can see is what i posted above. Is it because he hasn't shown scum and town meta or what?

Also

, i would like to note that only 2 people, Thomith and Snake have made a big deal out of my pressure that i put on Snake and Trollie. Hmmm? Only makes me want lynch them both more. I don't think it is a coincidence that the two "scummy" players right now have both rosen up to argue the same point, coincidentally with a two scum game.

Kondi, convince me with the case on MrBump, right now i am leaning for either a Thomith or Snake lynch.

[kondi2424]

MrBump should be lynched for being extremely cautious, especially around Thomith. I've already shown two examples of this.

This is also a decent reason to lynch him:

I don't like how mala has only commented on stuff directly related to her as of yet and essentially completely ignored Page 2.

Without addressing my two reasons that mala is town at all. This is a more minor point, but still valid.

[Venmar]

Hmm. Being extremely cautious is not necessarily a scumtell, IN MY EYES. What you are suggesting though is that if MrBump is scum, than his cautious approach on Thomith is WIFOM. Either he is scum trying to distance or scum being cautious on town as not to not appear pushy or such.

Kondi, do you believe MrBump is still the best target? Your last read post says that Thomith or Trollie are better targets because you think they check out more for scum teams, meaning they are scummy.

[kondi2424]

In theory, it would make sense to lynch Thomith and Trollie both for a guaranteed scum. However, I don't want the momentum on MrBump to die because he is actually scummy based on evidence as opposed to teams. I may switch to Trollie or Thomith if they become candidates for lynch.

[MrBump]

@bump, page 4 is a little early for me to get town reads strong enough to anounce them, you are making out like i have accused every player in the game, when i really haven't.

You've yet to do anything but accuse or throw suspicion onto people. Surely SOMEONE seems townier? I mean, kondi had two townreads Page 1, as did Venmar I believe.

Speaking of which, I don't like Kondi's play. He seems far too keen to lynch basically everyone and marked two people as town within seconds of the game starting and said everyone else was scum. There seems to be no "in-between", as such.

Tbh, Venmar and Kondi seemed like long-time friends from the first page. Do you two have history or what?

I feel happy with a Snake or Thomith lynch myself. Snake's post last page was awful, and Thomith is just so strange idk if he's scummy or bad town. =/

[kondi2424]

He[Snake]'s a wildcard right now, along with Trollie. He hasn't posted much content, but that's not necessarily scummy yet. I don't think he's partners with Mr. Bump though, so I'll say null until a flip.

That's considered in-between. Thomith could also be put there. In fact, the only person I've continually wanted to lynch is you.

Nothing else you said resembles scummy play. So yeah I call BS

I played an epic game with Venmar recently, but that's our only one.

[Thomith]

me throwing suspicion around is my way of pressuring everyone to find scum, generally i find people that react badly to said pressure which i end up pressuring more, so sorry if you think this makes me crap at being town but it is how i play and it usually works at finding scum so why change it?

[BwBurke]

Vote count comin' up soon.
The game kondi2424 and Venmar were both in was Open 399, by the way.

[kondi2424]

Oh yeah, your brother modded that.

[Venmar]

Kondi is a cool guy. I like him, but respectively weary of him, he is good and i heard he is an even better scum player.

[TheTrollie]

yo so i kinda just skimmed the last page and a half but venmar seems really excited about this game, just sayin'

[TheTrollie]

[quote="Thomith]Scared you will be found as metascum?

I legitimately don't understand this point. Can you elaborate?

I honestly don't get what he means. ;;

kondi tries to paint himself as town nonchalantly.

Also, I'm not sure how I'm being super cautious. If anything, I'm verging on tunnelling him on Page 2.[/quote]

oh, dude. ur scum.

MrBump is L-1 right? glad i thougtht to check cause i was about to vote him

intent to hammer

[Venmar]

I would like to say that i have intent to hammer as well.

@TheTrollie

- Does this make me scummy?

[kondi2424]

Claim time.

[TheTrollie]

@venmar - no, now ur town.

[MrBump]

HAHAHA

HAHAHAHA

Sorry, TheTrollie's last post just hurt my eyes.

Are you saying bussing is completely impossible? One of your biggest FoS's is INSANTLY town because he may never bus?

Are you for real?


Okay, allow me some time to ask a question. Why am I scum?

kondi basically went "he looks scummy", along with Thomith, and everyone tunnelled me from there while giving no solid reasons. "He's cautious". Are you serious? That's not a reason bah gawd.

Anyway, time to claim, because apparently 5/6 players want me dead for reasons I still don't understand. Vanilla Townie. AND NOT ONE THING WAS ACHIEVED THAT DAY.

[MrBump]

[quote="Thomith]Scared you will be found as metascum?

I legitimately don't understand this point. Can you elaborate?

I honestly don't get what he means. ;;

kondi tries to paint himself as town nonchalantly.

Also, I'm not sure how I'm being super cautious. If anything, I'm verging on tunnelling him on Page 2.

oh, dude. ur scum.

MrBump is L-1 right? glad i thougtht to check cause i was about to vote him

intent to hammer

[/quote]
This entire post is stupid.

NUMBER ONE WHAT IS METASCUM AND METATOWN

FFS NO ONE HAS EXPLAINED THIS YET

Number two, how am I scum from this post? Just "oh dude ur scum", with no explanation. That totally gives me a way to defend, and it totally opens your thoughts to everyone else as a good town should.