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blatant lies right thereIn post 21, Sakura Hana wrote:You're never obvtown
lets lynch all liars
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why is sakura a mislynch?In post 35, Dragon Alliance wrote:Second why jump on your mislynch wagon?
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why do naked votes mean scum?In post 37, Dragon Alliance wrote:Because there has not been a valid reason stated on why to vote her. So at this point it is a mislynch in my mind. If someone had some type of reasoning to call her scum then you might change my mind but for now because of Hoopla's naked vote I believe Sakura is town and Hoopla is scum.
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FoS on Profont.
"This coming from MTD" regarding the creativity is repeating what Aisa said, and sheeping Hoopla also seems to follow what others have said.
Not voting yet because wanna discuss with the dog(and Sakura wagon is too good to leave)
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What town should do is not what town do. Basically you're saying anti-town = scum. Find better reasons.In post 44, Dragon Alliance wrote:Because town should give reason for everything they do especially voting
Do you agree with Profont's reasons on why Hoopla is scum?
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I don't like how it's repeating something that has already been said. It's like he was nervous about what to post so he resorted to repeating something. It strikes me as him caring about his appearence.In post 45, MTD wrote:
I think it's ok as a response to an RVS vote.In post 43, Rottweiler wrote:"This coming from MTD" regarding the creativity is repeating what Aisa said
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A vote on Sakura is never totally random.In post 58, Aisa wrote:
At least you have a reason to vote Profont. Your vote on Sakura is totally random.In post 43, Rottweiler wrote:FoS on Profont.
"This coming from MTD" regarding the creativity is repeating what Aisa said, and sheeping Hoopla also seems to follow what others have said.
Not voting yet because wanna discuss with the dog(and Sakura wagon is too good to leave)
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Unvotes exist, so if your other hydra head disagrees, he can just unvote.
Why isn't your vote on Profont?
VOTE: Rottweiler
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@Aisa
Do you think that if I wanted to plan ahead, I would announce so inthread?
Also, don't you think you are making generalizations about how hydras work? There are hydras who don't even make posts before discussing, and there are hydras with heads who post/vote separately and only discuss once in a while. Saying that "needing to discuss doesn't make sense for town" is assuming that all hydras work the same way and no hydras will ever want to discuss, which is wrong.
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neh.In post 63, Dragon Alliance wrote:someone told me saying Serious Vote was getting people out of RVS
Saying"serious vote" is just an attempt to show "look, I wanna exit RVS".
What Hoopla did, hopping on the Sakura wagon, with the very naked vote that you find "not town", is how you actually get people out of RVS. It provokes reactions.
Actions speak louder than words.
Do you disagree that it could be used to provoke reactions, like it actually did?A naked vote in RVS isn't RVS to me, it is opportunistic.
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Didnt you pretty much vote us over a single piece of evidence?In post 68, Aisa wrote:@Rottweiler: No, and in fact you didn't, you said you needed to discuss with the other head, which is more generic and allows more room for interpretation than planning ahead.
And I actually said "Needing to discussa vote so early in the gamedoesn't make sense for town." I'm not saying that discussing in general is a thing only scum does. You're making it sound way more extreme.
My generalization doesn't hold true for you? Fine, just point it out, I'm not going to lynch you based on a single piece of evidence.
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@ns
See my last question to Aisa. It should give you a feeling about what I'm thinking.
@Hoopla
I disagree with your dragon scumread. I feel that beast stubbornly insisting that your naked vote is a scumtell shows town. Scum know better than to insist in something they see people don't agree with. That said, I'm sceptical because he dropped it in his last post.
Also, fwiw, I wasn't really defending you. I was attacking the arguments against you, because I found them weak and possible to come from opportunistic scum. I do think you might be town for wanting to get out of RVS, but at the same time I'm pretty sure you'd do something similar as scum so I can't really say I'm townreading you.
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What are you responding to here?In post 82, Dragon Alliance wrote:@Rott:
My asia has a point post or that fact that what you said made sense? I don't know what zekrom was talking about with asia and seeing something a way someone else said it might be is not scummy. I will admit to mistakes if/when i make them and if someone makes a valid point against what I am argueing then I will acknoledge it. I have the horrible habit of tunneling people to death.
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@Hoopla
Fair enough. It's a mistake I often make. I just feel that he wouldn't want to bring attention to him that way, repeating an argument that doesn't gain any support. Sure, there are scum who do those stuff on purpose so I cannot say with certainty that he is town because of this - but it's the feeling I get.
What are your thoughts on Aisa and profont?
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You planning on going under the radar in this game too?In post 91, Aronis wrote:Hoopla and Rottweiler seem to ne leaning town atm. Now to sort the rest of you.
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Bit of an over reaction. Wasn't asking you to vote or anything. Just Asking if you planned in going under the radar like the jester gameIn post 93, Aronis wrote:
I never said that. I'm simply waiting till I can get some decent reads, before voting people. But apparently your just supposed to jump on a random wagon until then from what I can tell.In post 92, Rottweiler wrote:
You planning on going under the radar in this game too?In post 91, Aronis wrote:Hoopla and Rottweiler seem to ne leaning town atm. Now to sort the rest of you.
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DA seems town from what I can tell. Why are you voting Sakura?
(I'm MUTLEY btw)
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Cos you went under the radar last game and it was successful. We are voting Sakura from RVS. Haven't felt the need to change it as of yet. As my other head has said we are not going to be a hydra that keeps unvoting voting. So until we have come to a conclusion on our main scum target it won't change
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Why join a game in the first place. Every game is different. Its a psychological game. Its so hard to keep having to re evaluate slots so you shouldnt join games and replace out just cos its not your likingIn post 130, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I'm probably going to ask for a replacement. This game doesn't interest me for some reason.
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more like SHOOT TAMMY!In post 155, Sakura Hana wrote:Wisdom is part of the hydra who tends to vote me and death tunnel me when he's town, and muttley is prob. paranoid that i'm going to fool him again so yay?
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what makes you think that?In post 154, Shockwave Rider wrote:Albert is probably town here.
how do you feel about Sakura and Aisa?
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I kind of did, through my question.In post 183, Shockwave Rider wrote:Also I don't like that Rottweiler hasn't responded to my question about their scumreads.
Sakura, Aisa, Albert. We also don't feel so good about Aronis and ns.
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Mainly because you're doing nothing, and I don't buy apathy as an excuse. I didn't like your 103 either, as I feel it was forced for some towncred.In post 186, Albert B. Rampage wrote:You suspect me Aisa and Sakura? Why?
Sakura because her response to her wagon and to my pushing in particular doesn't match her town-meta and what I'd expect from her. I see no frustration, no caring, no OMGUSing her wagoners, nothing. And she is also doing nothing. She didn't even explain her Dragons scumread when she voted them.
Aisa because her attempt to push us in the beginning felt really weak, and her taking it back after she saw that she cannot do it felt scummy. Town don't back off so easily. Scum can act and fool you, after all. I don't feel any of her other posts has anything particularly town in it either.
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no i wont so stop being useless and vote scumIn post 188, notscience wrote:YOU WONT TALK TO ME SO BITE ME
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You still have not given a single reason why he is scum.In post 224, Sakura Hana wrote:Except I do think you're scum.
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yupIn post 228, Aisa wrote:Why should we? I think I recall it was something about her meta, is that true?
It's not like sakura to be so apathetic when wagoned. And she's doing nothing, she's not explaining her reads, she's discrediting mine without even reading them.
Albert is also a lynch I'd support because he's also doing absolutely nothing, but I don't know him so I'm not as happy with his lynch as I am with sakura's.
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Im feeling better about Aisa, she is at least trying to figure out people and do things.
Unlike Sakura who continues doing nothing and jumping on wagons without explanations.
iamausername, ask yourself the same questions you just asked, but about Sakura (and Albert). Aren't they worse than Aisa?
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what is the opposite exactly?In post 237, Sakura Hana wrote:You do realize that it's actually quite the opposite?
where was your usual frustration? you were completely fine with your wagon and even joked around and claimed scum
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how is that a scumtell?In post 246, ika wrote:Look carefully as well, ISO him, DA, and BC and tell me how many times they mention him or quote him for the matter.
your other reason is meta and i dont care about it, but providing the game you were talking about and showing how it is the same would help.
Not liking how you are supporting such a lynch over Sakura.
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so your wincon is to change up your meta?In post 259, Sakura Hana wrote:Well since Wis considers me doing nothing a scumtell, im going to continue to do nothing and then when I flip town that'll stop being a scumtell so there.
Have fun~
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not to mention that with this post you acknowledge that im right, despite otherwise attempting to state that im misrepping your meta.
speaking of which, how am I doing that? Is it not true that you usually overreact and get all frustrated and are totally not cool with people wagoning you and voting you and pressuring you, very much unlike you did here?
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what town should do and what they do is very different all of the time. find better arguments.In post 264, ika wrote:wisdom: this is why im lockked onto him atm, hes delibertly being ignorant of me and is riling me up. This is why i want him to eat the rope first.
Town should engadge and answer, not be ignorant like hes doing
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Sakura in how many of those games was I in?
In none, you say?
So I'm supposed to somehow know that you have decided to play in the most anti-town matter possible (apathy is even worse than being scummy, really)? Your argument is that I am scum misrepping your meta when this meta has nothing to do with me?
6 months ago or 6 years ago means nothing to me. I am going to use my experience with you, whenever that was.
And, pray tell, why are you not including your recently finished scum game, where I correctly scumread you?
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again, what town SHOULD do is irrelevant. town unfortunately are very anti-town all the time for millions of reasons.In post 270, ika wrote:but the general consensus should be that town should be engadging and not ignorant.
I do not like your tunneling. It feels like you conveniently found someone you know to tunnel on, so that you can use meta arguments and whatnot and avoid playing the game. And all that the moment I called you out on doing nothing.
Leave Profont aside and tell me who else is scum and why.
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I don't do research. I don't use cold meta. If you do, you should know that about me because I have stated it many times.In post 272, Sakura Hana wrote:Because i'd think you'd at least do your research on a player you haven't played with in months
And even if I did, why would I bother to look at games of you that I wasn't in, when I have at least 7 completed games with you and have a pretty good grip on your play?
Neh. This is just a poor excuse because you're losing this argument.
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Different circumstances. There you had to fool two of the best scumhunters around, namely Nacho and ffery. Here if I'm not wrong the only really familiar people with your play are ns and I. Your play is guaranteed to be different and more lazy. You don't need the effort you needed there.In post 272, Sakura Hana wrote: 1) I was actually putting effort on a game where I was actually scum, yet you're scumreading me here for not putting effort, what do you think would happen if i brought that up before you mentioned it?
Or maybe it does.2) You scumread me every game, as I said in that game, just because you get lucky once doesn't mean you can read me.
Those are poor reasons to avoid bringing up the game, especially since you were specifically asked to provide games with me in them.
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nope. Unlike you, I have other suspects.The same could be said for your doing on sakura.
Nice dodging. And I'll also note that you conveniently forgot you're scumreading Sakura.one of my next suspects is iamusername, however before i go into deatail. I would like you to name me who else you think is scum. guts makes me think you are town so i want to look into details about who else you think is scum, also listing why will help.
I have said who I think is scum and I have given reasons. It's your turn.
Yes, FakeGod used it in my first modded game and it helped him figure out who is a PR. So in my mind it's a PR-hunting tool for scum, and it makes me feel even worse for you for mentioning it.also wisdom, have you ever heard of something called the hypo-claims (i think thats what it is)? its a fun concept to use. if you dont i can explain it
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Why?
What do you think about Sakura, Albert, Aisa, ika?
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