Open 595: Elemental Mafia (Town Wins!)

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Wrong: PR
RMM: PR
Bella: PR

Plotinus: VT
FA: VT
BBT: VT
Farside: VT
Senator: VT
Lane: VT

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Go ConMan!

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Sounds about right.

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Wrong: PR
RMM: PR
Bella: PR
ConMan: PR

Plotinus: VT
FA: VT
BBT: VT
Farside: VT
Senator: VT
Lane: VT

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Dave: PR
Wrong: PR
RMM: PR
Bella: PR
ConMan: PR

Plotinus: VT
FA: VT
BBT: VT
Farside: VT
Senator: VT
Lane: VT

[BlueBloodedToffee]

5 PRs.

This is very interesting.

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Oh yeah, forgot about that.

Post incoming.

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Alright, here's what I thought I saw (I also derped because I assumed each doc had a specific element (Water Doc, Fire Doc, Earth Doc) and not a choice which I realised earlier tonight.

Wait

wait wait

Yeah, I mean I can see how you're

sEeing

it, but I'm honestly telling you that it doesn't strike me as jumpy. It strikes me as messing around during rvs. guaranteed he was not legitimately worried about a quick hammer for

That

. Now if he would've been like "oh yeah, day 1 quick hammer cause I didn't care about my rvs vote" when flub was pressuring him, that'd be a totally different story

I thought these posts were intended to spell out 'WET' therefore crumbing being a water doc. I'm sure there were more references but in this post;

I'll see if there's more, but I'm not interested in a Papi vote. Bella or senator. as far as I can see Papi was trying ti get his

ketchup

on while getting pressure from everywhere. That's a battle no one can win, mixed with the WTF wagon... that's messed up for sure

Reading through I liked bbt's

ketchup

for sure bit his constant push for a quick lynch scares the Fuck outta me, and his constant... is bbt a her? I'm not sure while I write this so I apologize. But bbts constant attempt to quell conversation is messed too. No idea why bbt busted in with the read through and all of a sudden everyone is perfectly fine with a speed wagon and not talking about shit cause bbt

saus

so. Way to take control. Bravo, but I've never found that much insistence to speed lynch and stop all who oppose very becoming of town. Why can't you answer simple questions?

Here, I thought he was referencing liquids (Ketchup and saus; read sauce) and therefore providing more back up to his Water Doc claim.

@Mod - Don't worry. I found what I needed in one of the spoilers

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Dave: PR
Wrong: PR
RMM: PR
Bella: PR
ConMan: PR

Plotinus: VT
FA: VT
BBT: VT
Farside: VT
Senator: VT
Lane: VT
Reverend: VT

Just Wanderer left to go.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

If somebody knows a PR claim is false I think they should speak up.

For example, if Tracker or back up claimed VT and you know there cannot be 5 PRs I think you should come forward.

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After Wanderer claims obviously.

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It's even worse of a derp because I played the first run of this game (where funnily enough the mod did put kill flavour into the flips)

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Thanks Mod.

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Everyone has claimed and we have 5 PR's.

Looks like scum chose VT.

Dave: PR
Wrong: PR
RMM: PR
Bella: PR
ConMan: PR

Plotinus: VT
FA: VT
BBT: VT
Farside: VT
Senator: VT
Lane: VT
Reverend: VT

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Now some VCA (assuming all PR claims are true)

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Spoiler: Day One Votecounts

VC 1.12

(8)

Papi Bear

:

BlueBloodedToffee,

Ricastle

, Plotinus,

Flubbernugget

,

RationalMadman

,

Bellaphant

, The Reverend, lane

(4)

RationalMadman

:

Davesaz

, FA_Q2,

Wrong Song

,

ConManMick

(1)

Davesaz

:

Papi Bear

(1)

ConManMick

:

farside

(1)The Reverend:

Senator

Not Voting: Choof

VC 1.13

(5)

Papi Bear

:

Plotinus,

RationalMadman

,

Bellaphant

, The Reverend, lane

(4)

RationalMadman

:

Davesaz

, FA_Q2,

Wrong Song

,

ConManMick

(4)

ConManMick

:

farside,

flubbernugget

,

Ricastle

, BlueBloodedToffee

(1)

Davesaz

:

Papi Bear

(1)The Reverend:

Senator

Not Voting: Choof

VC 1.14

(7)

Papi Bear

:

Plotinus,

RationalMadman

,

Bellaphant

, lane, BlueBloodedToffee,

Ricastle

,

flubbernugget

(5)

RationalMadman

:

Davesaz

, FA_Q2,

Wrong Song

,

ConManMick

, farside

(1)

Davesaz

:

Papi Bear

(1)The Reverend:

Senator

(1)Senator:

The Reverend

Not Voting: Choof

VC 1.15

(9)

Papi Bear

:

Plotinus,

RationalMadman

,

Bellaphant

, lane, BlueBloodedToffee,

Ricastle

,

flubbernugget

, The Reverend, FA_Q2

(4)

RationalMadman

:

Davesaz

,

Wrong Song

,

ConManMick

, farside

(1)

Davesaz

:

Papi Bear

(1)The Reverend:

Senator

Not Voting: Choof

Alright, couple of things to note;

I don't see scum being on the Papi wagon. I am having a hard time believing Rev, Lane or Plotinus are scum.

Why the hell didn't scum vote RMM when Papi was being run up (VC 1.12)? I have trouble believing FA is scum.

VC 1.13 - I'm struggling to understand why scum were not voting RMM here. It makes no sense, unless he is scum fake claiming. What is important to note here though is if Farside is scum, both her and Flubber are pushing the counter-wagon to Papi. (Note: Once Papi claims, Farside never even thinks about rejoining the Papi wagon; she avoids it like the plague.

This can be shown in VC 1.14 where, when the ConMan wagon breaks down, she jumps onto RMM. Conveniently, the next available counter-wagon. Now scum are pushing a second counter wagon to Papi.

Thoughts?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Why?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I have asked that if a PR claimed VT that they come forward.

My VCA is based on all PR claims being true.

I think it points to Farside being scum (which is something I had considered before the mass claim)

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If one of PR claims is fake it surely has to be RMM.

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I don't think so.

I'm not sure it's super important.

I'm not sure Senator's voting implies scum motivation.

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It's not what I think.

It's what your voting tells me.

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We need to wait for everyone to check in and see if the game-state changes anyway.

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Claims are far from over.

Let's wait for everyone to check back in.

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I thought conman was scum. I'm stubborn that way.
Next.

And RMM? You tried super hard to avoid that Papi wagon.

Lane, why would Scum!Senator sit on a pointless wagon when his buddy is being ran up?

PEdit - I'm not SK. I would have killed you (Can say it's WIFOM, idc. I would have)

I could maybe, at a push see Senator (based on his play, not his voting)

I really do think Farside has the best chance of flipping scum.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I'm not stalling.

I also didn't fully understand your plan.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Tracker can track me. It would be wasted though.

He claimed PR. We have 5 PRs claimed. That makes him conf town, no?

PEdit - Truth.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Ah, I see. That plan.

Sure. We can do that.

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That involves full claims though...

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Hold on, we lose two docs in one night though if we miss scum lynching toDay...

That seems dumb.

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This cycle of lynching within the vt's and tracking vt's with the doc's agreeing to use different elements can next 2 to 3 players cleared/checked.

No it doesn't. It gets us one and then we possibly have no docs left. So it could potentially only be two.

Seems high risk for low reward.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

We think PR's are known.

If tracker or back up claimed VT early we're in a completely different scenario if they come forward.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Let's wait for everyone to check back in.

I'm starting to think Farside is actually town, which is pretty fucking annoying because I don't know who is scum if all claims are true.

UNVOTE:

[BlueBloodedToffee]

We think PR's are known.

If tracker or back up claimed VT early we're in a completely different scenario if they come forward.

You can't be this dumb.
Did you even read the set up?

I'm gonna lose my fuckign shit in a minute.

If a PR has claimed VT it means one of the PRs have lied. Can you follow this?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

OK, now. Here is a scenario for you;

Scum claimed PR (let's say RMM).

Tracker or back up claimed VT (Let's say FA)

FA comes back to thread tomorrow and says 'I claim PR'.

We now have 6 PRs.

Do you see how this changes the dynamic of the game?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Hmm, I might wanna vote FA actually...

[BlueBloodedToffee]

tough crowd...






Can I please give my thoughts first? >.>

Not only can you but you should. However, if they are the same thoughts you have been giving then don’t bother – BBT was spot on when he called you out for not taking a stance on anyone. You continue this trend in every post you make.

You are not posting thoughts that are useful when you state this person could be scum or they could be town. That is pretty well established already – tell us who you think is scum and WHY.

I can go with this lynch today I think. I will vote later though if it looks as though this is the lynch for today.

I would prefer RMM though.

321 was REALLY bad and that has been beaten to death.

I genuinely cannot find a single townslip or scumslip or anything form anyone. This is unusual for me.

Nothing.
Then:

Plotinus' attitude, however, is what I call 'over the top' style of scum-play. The typical tryhard scum attitude. Overdoes any explanation etc.

And

But then again tryhards can be VERY useful town members so I really am struggling here.

Takes a stance and then runs from it in the very next post. More nothing.

And tops it off with:

yay for bandwagons VOTE: Papi

Really! No issue with players joining wagons on scummy players but at least have a better reason than because everyone else is doing It at the time.

This runs from a stance much more than Papi does, contributes less and has posted 2 things that make me really think he is scum – runs to a PL and jumps on the first available wagon that might get a lynch without bothering to add any thoughts or agree with anything. Just states yay for bandwagons. Wth…

I still read flubber as slightly scummy but he is not as scummy as these 2. I don’t really agree with the bella scum read, she is null for me. This is mostly based on the last game I played with town bella – the style just seems similar IMHO. Will look harder at bella when I have more time to.

This is an interesting post from FA. Where did your suspicion of Flubber go?

You read Flubber as slightly scummy - yet you started D2 sounding pretty convinced that you thought Flubber was scum;

Really because I think that flubber was BLATANTLY scum. Much more than even papi IMHO.

Yes, one mafia and one sk.

There are a few things not adding up here. Your latest stated read on Flubber was 'slightly scummy', this attempt to make your read stronger appear stronger than what it was is a push for town cred I believe.

You then state you will join the lynch (Papi's lynch) if it's the lynch for the Day. But, you would much prefer to lynch RMM instead. Then you joined the RMM wagon. Can you explain your thought process here? Why did RMM suddenly become so scummy? You had posted after 3 of his posts that you quoted you had a problem with, why did you not address the issue sooner?

I think you saw RMM as a good opportunity to stop bussing and push a potential counter-wagon to Papi.

VOTE: FA

[BlueBloodedToffee]

The only early VT claim left is Plotinus and I don't see him changing.

I think we have our 5 PR's.

Let's lynch FA.

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I think all the claims are in.

Plotinus has been online and he hasn't changed his claim.

I think scum is in FA/Farside.

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I can do either, I don't care which goes first.

Plotinus, did you read my post on FA? What do you think about it?

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I don't mind a full claim.

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I think I know who a PR is.

If I'm right, it confirms me as town because I would have killed said PR if I were scum.

PEdit - I'm not SK. I would have killed you (Can say it's WIFOM, idc. I would have)

Check out toffee flailing hard for town cred.

First of all he's obviously not scujm because he says he thought lane was a PR, and lane is alive.

The he tells us he'd have killed farside.

So because BOTH farside and lane didn't die n1, toffee can't be SK.

Tracker can track me. It would be wasted though.

Here's where toffee says that being tracked would be a waste. Actually it would clear you, assuming that is that you're not scum/SK.

I could be the SK. I'm not pretending that me not being scummy means I'm confirmed town. And if PoE becomes a thing, I'll happily eat rope if it serves the greater town good. Will you?

Here's where I say I'm prepared to be lynched in order to PoE scum.

No, I hate giving myself up to be lynched. I'm 100% town, I cannot say the same for anyone else in this game with the same level of certainty.

Aaaand here's where toffee tells us that he'll still fight his lynch even if it serves the greater town good.

Just to really ram the point home, this is a town mindset...

Stop stalling bbt.
I'm accepting that I should be lynched.

toffee is clearly an anti-town role here. I don't care if we hit scum or SK, it makes no difference to us, and if we hit a baddie today then with only one kill tonight, the docs and tracker are in great shape.

vote toffee

Reverend, I was saying I would have killed Lane in the post where you think I said I would kill Farside.

I already explained that I know I am 100% town and cannot say the same for anyone else. So, just because I'm not willing to let myself get lynched, that doesn't make me scum. You need to understand that people play the game differently.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Yeah, it is.

I'm not going anywhere. I'm VT.

I'll never offer myself up to be lynched. In any game. Ever.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Haha, you're not able to see the game from other people's POV. And that's fine. We both know why that is right now.

If by some miracle you get me lynched, you know you're going straight after, right?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Play-style, Wanderer.

I'm an aggressive player.

Do you disagree that scum is inside of FA/Farside?

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You should take seriously that I got scum lynched.

You should take seriously that I was looking for scum off the Papi wagon because I didn't believe scum double bussed.

You should take seriously my cases for both Farside and FA scum.

You should take seriously that I am town. I thought this would be evident enough in my play, obviously I was wrong.

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I can see how people can think I am SK. There isn't anything I can really respond with except that I'm not and I would have killed Lane N1 if I were.

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Show me why you thought Farside was a PR.

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OK.

So you can see the difference now, yeah?

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Between me showing why I thought he was a PR and him still being alive

and

you not being able to do the same.

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Thanks Rev.

PEdit - I have presented both my cases for FA and Farside.

In fact, I have only just posted my thoughts on FA.

I have also only just requoted all my reasoning for Farside scum after someone requested it.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

This game is taking a strange turn of events.

Kills get halved if we lynch scum, no?

Given that we have two flips and a very good chance of finding scum I'm very concerned that Lane/Rev are concerning themselves with finding the SK instead.

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Rev you've done well discrediting me as a townie.

You stand no chance lynching me though.

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It's much, much harder to find the SK than scum.

We have scum associations and flips that we can use to sufficiently narrow down the pool.

If you're looking to 'half the kills' you should be looking for scum.

FWIW, Rev is the SK.

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SK could literally be anyone. How many players left, 12? 1/12 chance of finding SK.

We have narrowed down the pool in which to find scum (due to associations and wagons). Are you saying you don't have a better than 1/12 chance of finding scum? Hunting SK right now is bad play.

PEdit - That makes me happy. I can live with that.

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Although, if you trust me, you should probably listen to me now instead of lynching me...

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Hahaha! You should be a comedian.

I'm not the SK and I'll prove it when push comes to shove by self voting if my lynch is necessary.

You already made it clear you're not willing to go down quietly, even if it helps town to win.

You're right, I won't. And that's not scummy no matter what light you shine on it. But keep trying.

I'm pretty sure you're SK.

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Nah, I want to lynch scum.

You can wait.

I stated you were SK way back when you joined the game, remember?

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Plotinus even quoted it recently.

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Thanks.

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Hahahahahaha.

VOTE: Reverend

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God damn I'm good at this game.

Nice catch Bella.

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?

I like it when scum get caught.

I like it more when I'm right

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I knew you were tracker as well Bella.

Was worried others would pick up on it.

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Haha, aww, no pics

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I also just realized that Rev is actually scum and not SK.

Which bursts my bubble a little bit. But not too much.

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I was lynching you regardless as I thought you were SK.

Pedit - I'm town. We don't want that.

Keep pushing me though. Maybe I'll live another night.

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Yeah, that doesn't look good for me does it.

I have no defence either haha.

Fuck.

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Harsh words.

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I genuinely have no idea how to SK hunt.

I'm assuming we'e going to have to go off of NKA.

SK might also be on the Papi lynch.

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I think we rely on Bella to be amazing again.

That sounds like a good plan.

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You die today, scumbag.

I'm not getting lynched. I already told you this.

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Plotinus, you SK?

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I agree.

Now we only have one kill to deal with docs should out and state what protect they will use to make sure Bella is fully covered.

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What if a PR had a result?

In a sec, far: can you clarify the first bit of your post first? (head-cold, beer, election night = idiot)

Sure, I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything.

I claim PR.

It was obviously much easier once you claimed PR but it looked like you were subtly asking for advice on what a PR should do in particular situations, just hinted that you were tracker.

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You have one?

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Something I just thought of with the SK is he still needs to mislynch town (throughout the game, from the beginning)

Might be worth looking at who was on wagons and why. Find the weak link.

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I feel I should state that I'm not great at SK hunting.

I've never had to do it. However, it seems it would put a fair few minds at ease if I were tracked so I'll volunteer to be tracked if you decide that is the best choice Bella.

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GL Bella!

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Yep.

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Results Bella?

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It seems somewhat unlikely that the SK no-killed.

This is weird.

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OK, who?

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Plotinus: VT
FA: VT
BBT: VT
Farside: VT
Senator: VT
Lane: VT

I'm good with Senator.

VOTE: Senator

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I don't mind getting lynched at this point.

I don't know how to proceed and there is more than enough suspicion on my slot to detract from people SK hunting.

I wouldn't mind getting spoilered

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Only willing to do Senator and FA at this point.

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I think we should eliminate suspects from the Papi wagon.

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Actually we know everyone's alignment off the Flubber wagon except Senator and Farside.

Let's do one of them.

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I can do that.

VOTE: Farside

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Let's flash wagon her.

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FA, I'm surprised your opinion on people 'giving themselves up' hasn't changed given, you know, the bigger pusher of this actually flipped scum.

I have stated my reasons for the change. Do you disagree with them?

Bella, don't worry. I'm town.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

We should lynch.

We need to narrow the pool down.

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There really is no point talking. The game is won.

Let's flash lynch and get this over with.

Farside is a great start.

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Yeah, I agree.

If it is mathematically impossible for SK to win he should throw in the towel.

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VOTE: Plotinus

Sneaky feeling.

I find myself agreeing with Farside.

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I don't know why she would bring forward a theory that ends her game.

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Plotinus or Senator for me I think.

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VOTE: Senator

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The alt-slips are real up in here!

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Senator, I genuinely don't know how you can think Farside is SK.

Have a think on it. Look at what she presented to CATCH the SK. I highly doubt it is Farside, if it is, well played.

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Plotinus, you make me twitch every time you post.

If you're SK you should probably kill me.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Hamma time

VOTE: Senator...

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You were strong town until we had to find a SK.

Now, I guess I'm looking everywhere to try and find him.

Your last posts feel genuine though and make me think I'm wrong already.

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Plotinus: VT
FA: VT
BBT: VT
Farside: VT
Senator: VT
Lane: VT
Wanderer: VT

Alright. I don't think it's Plotinus. I also don't think it's Wanderer or Farside.

That leaves Senator, Lane and FA.

Strong to weak SK likelihood - Senator > Lane > FA.

Actually, as I write that, Lane looks like a really good shout for SK.

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Hmm, Lane could be SK.

Early game, there was set-up spec from Lane; this shows he tends to look at the game as a whole. However, during his whole time in the game (until towards the end of Day yesterday, which we will come to soon) he never once mentions SK. This doesn't quite fit with his overall view of the game.

Then, when Reverend jumps on me as SK, Lane is very quick to jump on this. He also says he 'trusted me' on Rev. I found this weird because he shouldn't want to lynch me if he trusts me. Thinking about it, it actually allowed Lane to line up two lynches; lynch me, I flip town then lynch Rev.

Everyone seems to think that Flubber was killed because SK knew he was scum. What if he was killed for other reasons? Such as to set up ConMan (SK may have assumed town flip remember) or because Flubber didn't have too many interactions and was a low info kill?

I actually think it could be Lane.

VOTE: Lane

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I will do Senator if people think I'm talking shit.

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I know.

Perfect win would be nice though.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

You're giving up?

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I mean, it would save us a lot of time and effort and you're very unlikely to win.

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There are other motivations behind killing Flubber other than SK knew he was scum.

Which, as SK, would have allowed you two lynches, which is perfect.

Because it fits with your view of looking at the game as a whole (as you did in the beginning)

You're also insistent that I am SK and you're basing it on the fact that SK knew Flubber was scum (and as I said, I believe other motivations where behind the kill of Flubber) I think you want to get rid of me but don't want to waste a kill so you're trying to lynch me knowing there was some support behind the SK!BBT theory.

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Second line is confusing - I'm talking about you wanting to lynch me and then Reverend - two lynches is perfect for you and it was a good way to set that up and base it on 'BBT has been right so far, let's follow what he said.'

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I'll be blunt.
If senator isn't scum I think it's bbt.

I'm not explaining why just yet I maybe wrong, but yeah let's do this

You're definitely wrong on me.

Lane, I'm using it as evidence against you because you just mentioned it!

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I was already voting him Mod..

Sorry!

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I mentioned what?

That Flubber was killed because SK thought he was scum.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

You know what? I'm pretty sure you said you were bad at finding sk long ago so you would have an excuse for being so bad at finding sk. You knew everyone you went for would flip town and you could be like, well I already said I'm bad at finding sk.

Valid point.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Well I think the general thought would be he was killed cause they thought he was scum. or that's what I assume

I presented other scenarios that should also be considered.

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I believe Senator is at L-2.

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VOTE: Senator

Don't want apathy setting in.

Lane next if we're wrong.

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Anyone can hammer, and should hammer, when ready.

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Stop being bad Senator.

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I'm not SK.

FA prob isn't either due to him providing theory that SK should probably give up.

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*twitching*

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I really could see Plotinus.

Wanderer not so much.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Trolling?

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Why Flubber?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Why didn't you want to kill me?

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Fair enough.

Well played town, great game. That was some effort!!

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Don't be too harsh on yourself.

One got SK'ed and one got tracked. So, technically, 0/2

[BlueBloodedToffee]

we should lynch Farside.

I endorse this product and/or service.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Hey, if you were on the lynch that's a correct read!

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Goooooooooo Town!!!

Thanks for modding Alch! Great job!

[BlueBloodedToffee]

BBT can we talk about this sometime now that you know that I was town here because I think sometimes I say dumb things and I want to say less dumb things.

My motive for what I said was: I really was wrong yesterday. My being wrong yesterday might have given the SK false hope. If I take away that false hope now maybe the SK will just give up like they should have done yesterday.

It's not a problem on your end Plotinus, it's how I perceive your play-style (I was struggling to disconnect how you to play to what your alignment could be). My problem with your play-style is your uncertainty; which there is nothing wrong with. Some people approach the game in that manner, I just need to learn how to differentiate that from your alignment.

I don't think you say many dumb things. In fact, from the time we have played together I would say you're very good at looking town without being too obvtown to everybody so that you're a good NK choice. That's a good skill to have. I have solidly town read you twice now and have been right both times.

I genuinely don't know how to hunt SK, so paranoia was getting the better of me. I was just trying to make sure I checked every avenue. I would keep playing the way you are, I think it works for you.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Thanks FA, much appreciated.

Think town played well together overall and deserved the win.