Open 612 - Bad Poets Society - Game Over - Town Win

[The Fire Hermit]

Hey guys, I am not contributing to your RVS. Cause I am damn confirmed!!!

I love that vote by Duppin on me, was really hilarious.

Also I approve of all wagons because it will help us get out of RVS, which we are still in.
I will be sure to lead this town as a conf to victory.

Lets have a great game all!

-Firebringer

[The Fire Hermit]

Grayfox you are acting very odd this game, just your entrance has gotten weird vibes from me.

[The Fire Hermit]

Well not your entrance but your whole "I am relooking at his iso" like, what iso? Theres 44 posts in the game and nobody has more than like 5.

[The Fire Hermit]

Potatoes are green
Bananas are red
This is bad poetry
I'm a vote Maxwell dead.

VOTE: Maxwell

We should sheep Vedith, because Vedith is awesome.

-Firebringer

[The Fire Hermit]

hi ppl what have i missed?

You missed a great party, everyone was wasted.

good times were had by all.
Please tell me Ika you will post more content posts than this game, right?

-Firebringer

[The Fire Hermit]

I hate that I am an IC this game
Worst role in the history of mafia

- Constantine

[The Fire Hermit]

We are not tagging posts anymore either

[The Fire Hermit]

It depends, if you arent going to identify yourself i will have very little to give you. i want you to be a better player but when you start assoicating with players who have a rep of being a negavie i will just treat you as scuh

I will identify myself in this game. I will say that sometimes I don't like your playstyle and get frustrated by you just as much as I can get frustrated by Hermits playstyle.

Their are different playstyles though and I try to respect them all because their is no 1 way to play the game. No perfect way to win, no X is only way to win. I have less respect for players who don't play and lurk because I don't think its playstyle, I think its a lack of playstyle.

Just because someone has a negative rep, doesn't mean they deserve it.

-Firebringer

BTW I don't want a huge discussion on this, lets both go back to scumhunting.

[The Fire Hermit]

I thought the whole point of playing in a hydra was to avoid having others establish a meta. That was why I was interested in the first place
Sure, firebringer can tag himself and give me away, but that kind of removes the main reason why I am playing in a hydra and not as a solo account

Also take a good hard look at my dick Musume, because it makes the cock you are acting like now look small in comparison.

*Sigh*

Apologies

[The Fire Hermit]

Me and firebringer have reached an agreement. We will tag posts when they are specifically addressed to us. Otherwise we will not tag them.

If requested, I personally will take credit for a post I made.

Damn, this is getting annoying.

[The Fire Hermit]

VOTE: Ranger

omgus

this is a serious vote btw

OK real talk - my vote on ranger was a reaction test. I don't like the way that Errant responded to it - it felt like it was going after a scummy-looking player without looking deeper. He could have asked why it was a serious vote, but he mostly seemed interested in going after an easy target.

VOTE: Errant

@ranger pls get an avi - it makes your posts easily recognizable on a quick glance

Okay, so essentially the only difference between being serious and real, is that serious means you are lying and real means you are telling the truth?

[The Fire Hermit]

Worthy of note: in addition to Errantparabola, I've got my eye on GM (see above), Brunneis, and Trivium.

I don't think all four are scum, but I think we've got at least two in that group of four.

Wait, why Brunneis?

[The Fire Hermit]

OK real talk - my vote on ranger was a reaction test. I don't like the way that Errant responded to it - it felt like it was going after a scummy-looking player without looking deeper. He could have asked why it was a serious vote, but he mostly seemed interested in going after an easy target.

VOTE: Errant

@ranger pls get an avi - it makes your posts easily recognizable on a quick glance

Are you kidding?
A "scummy looking player without looking deeper?"
Youre saying this so called "reaction test" is just you acting suspiciously and then calling someone out for saying you were "scummy looking."

You have never seen a reaction test before?
Actually having a townread on makara just by this little reaction test he did.
Errant you are on my hit list.

[The Fire Hermit]

OK real talk - my vote on ranger was a reaction test. I don't like the way that Errant responded to it - it felt like it was going after a scummy-looking player without looking deeper. He could have asked why it was a serious vote, but he mostly seemed interested in going after an easy target.

VOTE: Errant

@ranger pls get an avi - it makes your posts easily recognizable on a quick glance

I don't like the way you are reacting to the pressure. Reaction test vote? That's scummy. There are ways of pressuring scum without voting, and unless you have a good reason to suspect someone, there should be no reason to "reaction test vote" someone. In my opinion, reaction test votes don't exist. The way you respond to pressure? Changing your vote under persecution. Now that I have reason to suspect you, I'm gonna go ahead and vote you.

VOTE: MAKARA

Such a bad vote.
If you have never heard of a reaction test vote, you are bad.

[The Fire Hermit]

Brunneis its pretty hypocritical to be slamming people on amount of posts this early especially when you only have 5 posts yourself.
Just yell at them to contribute more.

Its what I would do

[The Fire Hermit]

Goodmorning is probably town.

[The Fire Hermit]

We will be applying pressure here for now

VOTE: Trivium

@Varsoon
I do not know my hydra partners reasoning, but we both share a townread on Goodmorning at the moment.

[The Fire Hermit]

My other scumreads are Brunneis and Makara

Triviums subtly defensive responce didn't do him any favors in my eyes

I am curious on Triviums scumreads

[The Fire Hermit]

At any rate, I do actually agree with Trivium about Makara, but the circumstances were odd, and I want to be sychronized with my hydra partner.

[The Fire Hermit]

Yeah, in that case I guess I am flexible voting makara if it comes to that, and I hope firebringer backs me up.

Anyways, do you commonly make wall posts GM, just wondering.

[The Fire Hermit]

I am fine with pushing Makara, I don't have a huge town read on him.
But I don't have a scum read on him either.
Mild Town read.

[The Fire Hermit]

So many people need to die

VOTE: Bruneiss
VOTE: Makara
VOTE: Errantparabola

[The Fire Hermit]

It was cold in the village; Ten days before the bandits would return to pillage

All the villagers would be forced to flee
Lest they be made into a pile of mince meat

If only they had a blanket to keep them warm
To make the nights bearable while they were forlorn

Suprise to all our hero was born...

The Fire Hermit would bring light amidst the bandits scorn!

[The Fire Hermit]

Hammertime!

VOTE: Trivium

[The Fire Hermit]

Ha,







































































































































Jk that wasn't really a hammer

VOTE: Brunneis

[The Fire Hermit]

Ah, whatever! My partner had a scumread on him, so just make sure he claims first Ika.

Also I think I mastered this...

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[The Fire Hermit]

And...

[The Fire Hermit]

Oh sweet, I did it!

[The Fire Hermit]

[The Fire Hermit]

Okay, I really just want you dead

VOTE: Trivium

Tommorow I will take a closer look at Brunneis and Makara.

[The Fire Hermit]

Varsoon, the IC are Firebringer and Constantine. T

hey aren't idiots,

but their role status doesn't grant them any extra scumhunting talent, certainly not on Day 1.

You're reminding me of Classic Rock Varsoon. FoS

I am glad we got that bit clarified.
Hermit and Fire are a pair to be reckoned with.

[The Fire Hermit]

Trivium seems scummy to me. I can't articulate it well.
The IC is voting there. That's a good thing in my mind.
If Trivium flips scum, that likely means the IC will be under fire, which (cough) is also a good thing in my mind.

Why is it a good thing we are under fire?

[The Fire Hermit]

161

Also, to the people who have thrown suspicion on me but haven't stated anything beyond that

(Which is about 3: Ranger, (One Half?) Of Fire Hermit, and probably someone else I forgot to mention.)

My other head has been pretty quiet on why he thinks you are scum.
I find you are often mislynch bait so I am very hesitant to put votes on you till I know for a fact you have like 80% chance of flipping scum.

Unlike most people where I would put a vote if I thought the odds are good enough to be 50%.

[The Fire Hermit]

^ Wow, this needs to be looked at

We might be shifting gears actually. A lot of circumstances are making me believe Trivium is going to be a mislynch. Varsoon on the other hand, has seriously attracted my suspicion. I only know so much about reading him though.

[The Fire Hermit]

Okay, so you are Taly?
What a reinforcement of my previous scumread on you!

I am more interested in finding the best association lynch today, so Trivium is not really that interesting.

[The Fire Hermit]

I, for one, am not necessarily entirely convinced you aren't idiots.

I am an idiot! Just an idiot with a really high town win rate.
That is why I play the game, because I feel so accomplished when I catch scum.

Firebringer is pretty good at this game too. He has a different style of playing, whereas I mostly do things independently in my head, which is probably why I don't get along too well here.

[The Fire Hermit]

RIP

VOTE: Bruinneis

[The Fire Hermit]

Duppin and Vedith have yet to post

[The Fire Hermit]

Makaras jabs at Trivium are really just evidence for the friction being put forward on a Brunneis lynch.

[The Fire Hermit]

Can we make my life easier and allow hydra slipping?

[The Fire Hermit]

I just do not like having to keep changing accounts

I am going to be more sympathetic towards hydra slipping after this game

The goddamn irony!

[The Fire Hermit]

This is semi-important, or I wouldn't ask. Who wrote that post, Brunneis?

[The Fire Hermit]

Reaction tests are so pointless... It's so easy to dodge them and it normally just trips up town.

How dare you say this!

Well Vedith is likely town.
So blunt and making kind of anti town comments.

Yep, Town Vedith.

[The Fire Hermit]

Can we make my life easier and allow hydra slipping?

I have yet to hydra slip at all on this site.

I have posted from my hydra in a game where my main was on, that was hilarious.

[The Fire Hermit]

Every post by Brunneis has set off alarms for me. Worried about Trivium though.

If he is town, he is among a couple of select players I have encountered here who defy every rule of scumhunting I have. That has led me to be burned a couple times.

[The Fire Hermit]

NO GIF/MEMES?!?!?!

[The Fire Hermit]

Brunneis needs to go, right now! Seriously guys, I have been playing too many games where obvious scum get to slither their way to MYLO as of late.

If Brunneis is scum though, then Trivium probably is not.

[The Fire Hermit]

Taly makes me think the slot is scum, but klingon is good at making the slot look town.

Some of Klingons posts still rung scum though, so I am not moving.

[The Fire Hermit]

@Maxwell

That is sensible and summarized

everything

I was beginning to think about the slot. Still not sure if I want to prolong Brunneis's death though, considering that will drive me utterly insane. Also there is a bit more scum paranoia; I would feel more comfortable with Trivium scum alive for a little longer than Klingon scum, because Klingon is smart enough where she may be able to reimagine her slots plays and come out looking town up until the end of the game.

[The Fire Hermit]

I am also with you on Goodmorning, but that isn't territory I want to dive into now. Associatives on day one are a good way to get burned.

If I were to be brutally transparent about what players I am scumreading, and if you know my meta, I usually am not transparent at all; then Varsoon has also attracted a fair amount of scum suspicion as well.

[The Fire Hermit]

Absofuckinglutely

[The Fire Hermit]

Welp, okay, I was one off.

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[The Fire Hermit]

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[The Fire Hermit]

Okay, so usually I do this correctly

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[The Fire Hermit]

Close enough

Let's lynch Brunneis today. Look at Makara and Vedith tommorow.

[The Fire Hermit]

No and no.
Makara and Vedith are scum. They will stay scum even if one flipped at the end of today.

Firebringer does think Vedith is town though, and I respect his opinion. I just think firebringer gives people town credit way to often for things that I see scum do all the time.

[The Fire Hermit]

So agreed. The first couple of games I played here, I was blamed because others mislynched me, like it was somehow my fault.

I kept stating that I was focused on scumhunting and not on defending myself, which is how everyone should play. It just gave scum a vote justification, "If he refuses to defend himself..."
"

[The Fire Hermit]

Also I am extremely selective about which reads I share, and especially push.

I see no reason to head into Vedith territory now, even when requested.

[The Fire Hermit]

I just want to make a note, last time I played with Klingon and she used AtE she was scum....
Just making that as a note.

[The Fire Hermit]

Yeah, stay out of my territory!

Hello Town Vedith, lovely day isn't it?

[The Fire Hermit]

I could definitely see Ika being scum.
Especially with association now to Brunneis.



Fire

[The Fire Hermit]

I would say you do.
Also, no thank you. Going to stay in this game whether you like it or not Klingon.

-Fire

[The Fire Hermit]

Brunneis (Klingon)
I am going to level with you, I don't think you are scum like my other head does.
I think you are town, I wanted to test you a bit on reactions. I don't like your reactions at all, but I think they seem genuine althought that has fooled me before.

I don't like your scum reads, the only one I agree on is Trivium. I think one on GM is bad and Ranger is pretty obv town.

Thats where I am at right now,

-Fire

[The Fire Hermit]

Close enough

Let's lynch Brunneis today. Look at Makara and Vedith tommorow.

Shaddup, Hermit. I've fucking had it with you.

You're supposed to be the fucking Town Leader, but you're nothing but a dumbass troll.

If you aren't going to help Town, then fucking lurk for the rest of the game. With any luck you'll be an early NK.

Calm down! You are crossing the line, and why, because I am leading a wagon on you?

Just makes me believe this is fake raging. I find it hard to believe that any player here, especially you in particular, would overreact to a post like that without it being intentional.

[The Fire Hermit]

I am going to request that players who are scumreading the slot prioritize lynching Brunneis today if you feel the continuation of the slot is going to create drama and/or confusion. We would be fair game as well if we were not an IC, which means I am pretty fucking happy I got to be an IC.

[The Fire Hermit]

I would also like to dismiss the claim that there are special expectations that innocent children have to live up too.
The advantage of an IC is having access to a confirmed town players scumreads, which I have made available whereas under normal circumstances I would not have shared so much of what I was thinking (as a bonus, you do have two individual townies providing scum and town reads)

The point I am getting at, is that there is no reason to expect an Innocent Child to lead town, because that would imply the IC has a great degree of influence over the decisions of other townies. At most, my opinions only have marginal influence on the lynch, and I am using that influence to get Brunneis, a scumread of mine, lynched.

[The Fire Hermit]

Scum are also going to exploit my reputation for their advantage. They do every game, that is why I have such an easy time catching them usually.

[The Fire Hermit]

That's all

- St Constantine

[The Fire Hermit]

Errant: I'm not getting the feeling that you actually care about answers to your questions.

Same feeling

[The Fire Hermit]

Okay Klingon, feel free to rage, but honestly it wont get you anything besides a fine streak of negativity.

[The Fire Hermit]

Still think the rage is 100% fake though, just saying.

[The Fire Hermit]

I defended him when others complained about his behavior.

Done.

I had never asked anyone to defend me. I am more than capable of standing my own ground without others weighing their opinions in. My stance on the issue of myself, is that myself should not be an issue. I cannot understand for the life of me why I happen to be a public issue on this site.

I have been quite vocal about toxicity and attacking/mentioning players negatively inside the game enviornment, which is what you are doing now, and doing that makes this feel more like a chore than a game. In any other place I would just shrug it off, but it does get to me when I am in these situations in which I cannot ignore, with the whole purpose of being involved to have fun.

People have expressed sentiment about not liking players who do not take every single post ultra seriously, but this does not have to be an ultra serious game, and since the goal of loosening up a bit and trying to goof around is to make the game possess a lighter enviornment, then so be it.

Claimed

[The Fire Hermit]

Goddamn, I was really considering making a

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with that last post.

Mine

[The Fire Hermit]

Lol, sorry firebringer, I was posting out of hydra

[The Fire Hermit]

Hold on buddy, my ass gets kissed enough by people in real life

[The Fire Hermit]

Not answering that question either. Don't see any reason to talk about

me

. I am not important, and that is kinda my whole entire point.

Klingon probably wants to exploit me, and you are giving me the impression that you are out to do the same for town credit.

[The Fire Hermit]

@Vedith
Yeah, what duppin said...
I do not see why you asked me about my reputation, because it really doesn't make a goddamn difference anyways.

[The Fire Hermit]

Yeah, definitely scum between the two.
I got firebringer to cave in and compromise for a Brunneis lynch. That means our vote will not be changing at all, which also means scum or any holdout townies just need to give up and join the wagon.

[The Fire Hermit]

@Firebringer

I know you wanted Kling to respond, but you, Max, makara, and every other lurker in the game are the only people who haven't stated that my (Taly's posts) posts as either scummy, useless, or "just to

defend myself and push others

- clear myself as town" - so I feel like I could speak to you.

But my vote is on Trivium. Personally, I am not liking the idea of GM being town, and I've seen games where early aggressive "town" have flipped scum, so I can't say Ranger is town either. Trivium has bugged both heads of this hydra the entire game - and I don't really trust what they say because I keep picking up some very odd phrases - and I don't think people are acknowledging that.

(Which I've stated some in 288)

I'm not going to argue with your other head, Fire. It has been inquired on why he thinks I'm scummy - by myself - most of all, but nobody has gotten a reply - and he likes to think that their 3rd vote on my wagon is the one that is leading my wagon. The only thing I understand about this is that it is harming town, but I'm not excusing anything I - my other head - or anyone else who could have contributed to that.

In any case, the deadline is in 2 1/2 days, I believe. We need to begin solidifying our votes

>>>>

And I'm speaking to everyone with this statement.

I'm not opposed to a Varsoon lynch if nobody sees Trivium a conducive enough lynch to push against him at this point.

And yeah.... This is where

I am at

, right now.

Can you explain how Varsoon is a better lynch than you or Trivium?

[The Fire Hermit]

@Max its interesting you are going in opposite direction than you were in start of day.
I noticed you were sucking up to me a bit at beginning but now are disagreeing.

I kind of like that you aren't trying suck up anymore, but I am wondering if you are just discrediting for scum purposes.

[The Fire Hermit]

Goofing around does not mean naked voting players to start a trollol wagon just for the lulz.

Like it or not as an Innocent Child you are looked upon as somewhat of a Town Leader. Quit playing against your win condition, or I'll have no choice but to report you and request a force replace. I've never done that before. Your play sucks that bad, Constantine.

You think I'm Scum? Build a goddamn case, then.



Klingoncelt

Seriously this and other posts are going a bit too far.
Hermit has other ways of scumhunting, most of them are reaction testing.
All your AtE at the moment has not increased my perception you are town.
Ignore Hermit if you want, try to scumhunt if you are town.

We are distracting from the game with this stupid drama.

-Fire

[The Fire Hermit]

@Varsoon who are your top scum reads atm?

[The Fire Hermit]

Sorry Maxwell, I missed it.

I'm not entirely sure yet. The town read on me feels like buddying. Trying to determine whether that is the case or not. I don't know who I would vote for at the moment though.
I do have other reads yes, but you'll have to wait.

Why do you not feel that any of the other reads are buddying?

Do you like Brunneis scum reads as well?

[The Fire Hermit]

fire.......

are you going to interact with me?

Do you have any thoughts on Brunneis as of lately?
Varsoon?
Max?
Trivium?

What 3 players would you lynch if you could today? In what order?

[The Fire Hermit]

I am incredibly sick, so I am going to let firebringer take over for the weekend

So much AtE, drama, and general scumminess from the Brunneis slot. Lynch that pls.

My Post

[The Fire Hermit]

As an alternative to Brunneis, Varsoon is also a good lynch for today. That is one of the things I would actually agree with Brunneis were I more confident she was town

[The Fire Hermit]

You were on the Errant wagon, but later you started talking about GM, Trivium, and us.

...And there's at least three scum, maybe four, in the game.

Errant has always been my priority, but I'd be a fool to focus exclusively on them.

If I had to choose between Brunneis and Trivium I would say that Trivium is more likely to be scum based on his awful defense. However, I think it's pretty scummy to make today's lynch a choice between these two players.

I am in agreement. Nothing's changed my opinion on Errant being the best lynch.

Why are you thinking theres four?
Highly suspicious if you ask me....maybe I am off about Ranger.

[The Fire Hermit]

That's not a fair point at all.
If you're like, "Hey, bro, that sure was scummy!"
And he's all "Yup! Everything I say is scummy!"
You do not go "Oh, okay, free pass."

Well actually if the meta of a player is they act kind of scummy, then it is relevant and while shouldn't be given a free pass it should be considered instead of hammering them for it.

[The Fire Hermit]

I am still waiting on Ika to give his reads.

I am willing to lynch either Brunneis or Trivium at this moment.
I am less sure of anyone else right now.

[The Fire Hermit]

We need a lynch today.

If it isn't Brunneis its going to be Trivium.
We will examine everything tomorrow.

VOTE: Trivium

-Fire

[The Fire Hermit]

I have a good feeling one of Brunneis or Trivium is scum at this point.
Leaning on Brunneis.

It could be both, but I doubt this.

[The Fire Hermit]

5 hours left, you are cutting it close right now.

[The Fire Hermit]

Me and My Hydra head need to discuss more, but we wanted to pressure Brunneis more.

The odd thing is we are alive, so I probably need to examine why that is.

>.>

[The Fire Hermit]

Me and firebringer discussed his vote on Trivium.

I didn't want it, but it might not be a bad thing in the long run since scum exposed themselves with that obvious counterwagon to Brunneis. Actually, how fast the trivium lynch developed in comparison to Brunneis is good evidence that the slot is scum. Think we got this one under wraps guys.

VOTE: Brunneis

Varsoon, I am not dead because scum didn't want to risk wasting a nightkill.

I already identified the scum team. It is brunneis and the people who helped her form the counterwagon on Trivium.

[The Fire Hermit]

Scum screwed up nightkilling two possible mislynches. Really bad play.

Scum team is Brunneis, Makara, and Varsoon. Bet firebringers life on it.

[The Fire Hermit]

Varsoon, I do hope you know that the lack of a counterclaim in an unknown set-up does not confirm you as town.

[The Fire Hermit]

Varsoon is 100% town, I'm afraid, so you are wrong there, but you can be right about the other two. (Honestly, I actually hope you are. It'd make my job much easier.)

Always the same deal when someone makes this claim. Why is he

one-hundred percent

town?

[The Fire Hermit]

I am generally in favor of mass role claiming. It informs town, and the massive amount of pr speculation has always unrooted at least one scum.

I will differ to firebringer on this.

[The Fire Hermit]

I sometimes do what Varsoon is doing as scum.

What happened to fun Varsoon?

Anyways, the set-up isn't actually known to us right now. There is still way to much room for speculation.

Mine

Sorry Quaroth.

[The Fire Hermit]

I am generally in favor of mass role claiming. It informs town, and the massive amount of pr speculation has always unrooted at least one scum.

I will differ to firebringer on this.

I am in support of this plan and I don't want to push Varsoon today.

Makara is someone I want FoS right now.

[The Fire Hermit]

Please guys, for the sake of all that is holy, go with brunneis and then makara. They are going to be lynched at some point, and I want to get past this hurdle before scum can reassert themselves.

[The Fire Hermit]

Calm down varsoon! Like for real! Your intensity transcends the internet itself.
Let's just lynch brunneis and progress the day.

@Maxwell - Can you please explain your meta to me just briefly? I know that seems like a silly question, but your slot kind of scares me because you look super town even when you are scum. You are one of the more dangerous players, and normally I would just ask the cop to investigate you, but we cannot be sure if another exists given the 1-shot cop already flipped. Therefore I would like to know briefly what you think of your usual meta please.

[The Fire Hermit]

To counter varsoon, ignorance isn't allignment indicative. It is not scummy at all to not read the set-up and to vote a claiming player. Some might even make the case that it is town, since scum might be less willing to make an apparent mistake like that.

[The Fire Hermit]

There are too many lurkers and non participation in this game.

We are doing a mass claim.

Everyone participate.
NOW!!

[The Fire Hermit]

We're currently in what is either a 6-3-1 or a 7-3 town-to-scum-to-SK ratio.
With Firehermit as confirmed town, this allows for a pool of 9 for lynch, with only 5/6 townies in that pool.
With myself and the 1 minimum other confirmed townie who can confirm town on a mass claim, our pool shrinks to 7 for lynch, with only 3/4 chance of hitting town.
With two kills out per night, our chances of losing the game after N3 (with SK) and N4 (with Vig) are very high if we do not lynch or kill scum.
This is an issue.
We should mass-claim, as it will maximize our potential as town.
If you do not want to mass-claim, I will just stop posting altogether until I get killed tonight.
Because fuck you.

Completely agree.

[The Fire Hermit]

Brunneis claim next.

[The Fire Hermit]

I know you want me dead, but several people yesterday said that I had to die sometime in this game, and looking at how the NKs happened

I'm pretty sure scum would want my lynch today, and you're conf-town whose still alive while nobody will dare push to lynch you

Well obviously scum isn't going to nightkill themselves, lol

[The Fire Hermit]

Thinks for the consultation firebringer!!!



We are in agreement though, so Brunneis should claim.

[The Fire Hermit]

Okay good so far:
Varsoon-Doctor
Max-VT
Brunneis-VT

Okay Makara next.

[The Fire Hermit]

Varsoon stop aborting the lynches! Goddammit!

[The Fire Hermit]

Who is left to claim?

[The Fire Hermit]

Its not obvious if you didn't out right state it,
We don't need to go in order if everyone is just going to post a lot in between.

If you haven't claimed just go ahead and do so.

[The Fire Hermit]

I'm going to seek a replacement, as this is his third prod -

he'd have four if not for night happening.

Oh god, this only makes sense in the context that he had a night action he could of submitted or a private topic he was in! Mod slip FTW!

[The Fire Hermit]

Read into it if you want, but your assumption here is wrong.

Oh god, this is stating that my original assumption was incorrect, so we can imply that duppin is actually vanilla town! Mod slip FTW!

[The Fire Hermit]

I am pro-duppin

Do not replace him

[The Fire Hermit]

Duppin, claim.

Everyone should be claiming.
Seriously, I am being ignored and its making me angry.

-Fire

[The Fire Hermit]

Brunneis: VT.
duppin: VT.
Errantparabola:

VT

goodmorning: flipped 1x cop.
GrayFox: VT.
Ika: Claimed Unspecified role.
makara: ?
MaxwellPuckett: VT.
Ranger: VT.
The Fire Hermit: IC.
Trivium: Flipped VT.
Varsoon: Claimed doctor.
Vedith: Flipped VT.

Added Errant.
Did we get Ika role?
He is a power role, and says its obvious but I still don't see it.

[The Fire Hermit]

Brunneis is using a very smart and calculated mafia move. She is townreading Makara close to a lynch. We are so used to this happening when flipped scum wanted to set-up a mislynch, but in this case that same exact wifom is protecting Makara scum.

[The Fire Hermit]

How do you know there's 4 Scum?

Because

this is an open setup

and I'm not an idiot.

Actually she brings up a good point. How do you know there are four scum? The number of scum was never specified.

[The Fire Hermit]

Makara is so scum. I wont let her replacing out stop pressure from that slot.

Varsoon, don't even acknowledge lynching anyone other than brunneis today

[The Fire Hermit]

Ika claim now.

[The Fire Hermit]

Seriously, we can figure this out easier if you didn't just soft-claim a PR which you didn't specify.

[The Fire Hermit]

Persivul is making me more confident that my scumread on makara was right

[The Fire Hermit]

Finish Brunnneis final scum

[The Fire Hermit]

duppin is extremely more reactive than proactive. More defensive than actually trying to find scum it seems.
Which is scummy.

He should have more votes on him.
Is my slot voting him?

If not:
VOTE: Duppin

[The Fire Hermit]

Hurry up and kill this. She has already given us her claim and her reads. We saw the way Trivium flipped. No way are we going anyway else today.

[The Fire Hermit]

Also firebringer, I am changing this

VOTE: Brunneis

That is playing directly into scum hands.

[The Fire Hermit]

Win is simple. It is Brunneis, Persivul (Makara), and Errantabola. Errant could be a sk, but I am pretty confident all three of them are scum in one way or another. Moreso with Brunneis and Persivul.

There posts are just so incredibly easy to see through. Not to mention all the other inrefutable arguments brought up against that slot.

[The Fire Hermit]

Brunneis is acting in now way to what I have come to expect from a town player.
Even the selective using of this slots opinions is something I have come to expect as a scum tactic.

[The Fire Hermit]

The slot is just overall incredibly desperate, let's be honest. The game cannot reasonably advance if we do not lynch anyone other than Klingon. That slot just HAS to go.

[The Fire Hermit]

Taly Klingon was pushed down the slide
Taly Klingon had quite the ride
It was her own fault because Taly Klingon lied
Better luck next time, Brunneis!

Also Duppin brings up a good point. Klingon this entire game has been going after the effortless targets. Joining that quick Duppin wagon that died out really fast was perceived by me as an act of desperation.

[The Fire Hermit]

That is really uncalled for.
-Fire

[The Fire Hermit]

As soon as this game's over I'm going to request a ban on both of you for trolling and playing against your win condition. I've had enough of your dumbfuck middle school behavior.


The Klingon head.

Seriously if this wasn't a game Klingon, I would be extremely pissed of at you.
But I am not going to listen to this AtE shit that you are doing.

Like, I know St Constantine can be a standoffish, but I have done nothing to deserve this kind of treatment by you.

In short, piss off.

-Fire

[The Fire Hermit]

I think I said this before, I feel duppin is more likely scum than Brunneis, but Klingon/Tally AtE and flailing has done nothing to encourage me to actually move my vote.

Just continue being attacked and attacked.

Right now:

Varsoon-Town
Ika-Likely Town, potential SK? Doubtful.
Duppin-Scum
Ranger-Scum leaning
Persivul-Town
Max-Town leaning
Grayfoxx-Scum leaning
Errant-Town

[The Fire Hermit]

Klingon, I am not using prejudice against your character when I make posts. Sorry you feel that way, because I actually have a lot of respect for you as a player.

When I made those posts calling the slot desperate, I wasn't trying to infer that you are desperate in real life, but that you are being desperate as scum, in these specific circumstances.
That poem I made was also in jest. This is bad poetry mafia after all, and I was just trying to not take every post so goddamn seriously. I hope you understand that!

- St Constantine The Hermit

[The Fire Hermit]

God, scum have revealed their affiliation with each other literally a half dozen times, and we haven't even lynched scum yet. This was the sixth time.

Stop offering ways for Klingon and Persivul (Makara) to slime their way out of the inevitable.

What I am trying to say, is that it would be pretty damn suprising if Klingon and Persivul were not on the same team.

If you do not see it than you are unenlightened! Go back to live mafia, infidel!

Actually I have been deriving parts of my scumread from your post. Earlier in the game I actually noted in the thread that the taly head seemed scummier than the klingon head. Lately that shifted.

But yeah, I keep thinking of klingon when talking about that slot. I do the same thing in other games with hydras, usually calling out the dominant head.

Mine

[The Fire Hermit]

I really don't see anything strong as of late for this switch onto grayfox over brunneis.
But w/e.

I think I am doing bad this game, my other head is more confidant in his reads than me. Usually I feel pretty confidant about my reads too.

-Fire

[The Fire Hermit]

Hey, don't look at me. I have been trying to get scum lynched all game.

The problem is that you are not getting on board the scum wagon and actively propping up the continued existence of scum.

[The Fire Hermit]

I refuse to be apart of a second mislynch. Let my other head take the blame (or credit?) for however grayfox flips if he wants.

Just know that is is incredibly stupid that you all caved in and left Brunneis.

[The Fire Hermit]

So Grayfox and Brunneis weren't aligned. That was interesting.
The thing with Kling is she is using heavy AtE which she doesn't use as town as hard. Like its more her scum play than anything else at least from my experience.

-Fire

Not ready to jump the vote anywhere though.
Me and my other head haven't been talking but I think he wants to still push Brunneis

[The Fire Hermit]

VOTE: Brunneis

Welcome to mafia 101

[The Fire Hermit]

The players I have been scumreading the whole gave have been Brunneis, Ika Masura, and Persivul (Makara)

[The Fire Hermit]

Klingon's immaturity is icing on top of the cake for why that slot should be lynched. It isn't as bad now as when she was doing all the incredibly fake appeal to emotion shit.

Yeah, sorry folks, this is my first hydra game and I am having trouble getting in this mindset of posting on the hydra account.

[The Fire Hermit]

Oh no, klingon is going to 'tell' on me!

[The Fire Hermit]

I hope you guys had fun this game, because it may well be the last one either one of you play here.
If you had tried to build some sort of case it would have looked better for you, it's clear you're nothing but a couple of little man trolls

I see that you are going to leverage your unequivocated influence on this site to get me and firebringer banned for trolling, huh? Good luck with that!

[The Fire Hermit]

I was going to talk to firebringer today about possibly lynching Persivul today, but I think I speak for both of us when I say that we are fed up with Klingon's aggressive behavior this game.

VOTE: Brunneis

If firebringer wants to change the vote, he can go right ahead, but I do not see this vote changing until that slot seriously shapes up its attitude. I mean, it is one thing to be a troll, but another thing all together to be a prick.

[The Fire Hermit]

I gotta stop the tunneling my head is doing.
Like I think Hermit can be good, but this tunneling is doing nobody any favors.
UNVOTE: Brunneis
I need to relook at the game, but this push on Brunneis isn't going anywhere and frankly so many are pushing against it I don't think it would just be scum diverting it.

And @Ika it was the Midnight Sun game. I can see it maybe being a Null tell. Kling once told me she can go AtE too hard sometimes, I just don't like where she took it and it was blinding me to the events of the game.

-Fire

[The Fire Hermit]

@Errant I am not in the mindset to lynch anyone yet tbh. Brunneis was my strongest scum read. I don't see duppin or max being scum. Ika definitely not. So I don't know where to go.

Need some time to think about this game.

[The Fire Hermit]

I might be willing to lynch Ranger. Just cause I am null on her.

-Fire

[The Fire Hermit]

I am about ready for a flip in this game to be honest, really has stagnated.

-Fire

[The Fire Hermit]

Did the votes just reset? I thought we were much closer to a lynch than this.
Anyways, my other head probably is feeling less motivated to play this game, and I can understand why.

Right now, I just want to lynch someone and call it a day. Would prefer someone in Ranger/duppin/Brunneis.

-Fire

[The Fire Hermit]

So yeah me and my buddy are getting al ittle apathetic to the game.
And our reads are vastly different.

he is hard scum reading pers, who I am just null on tbh.

But its only one we can agree on atm.

VOTE: Persivul

He has taken a step back from the game. Which I kinda want to, but the game must go on!

-Fire

[The Fire Hermit]

Fire/Hermit - I know you both want Pers lynched versus Troy, but we have to have all town vote to lynch somebody if we want to avoid the idea of "which scum bussed their buddy" next dayphase - which will create WIFOM - and we don't need anymore of that especially since we could be looking at game-long mylo from this point forward until we actually win; on the idea that we DON'T lynch the scum PR.

If I am pushing pers, that means this wagon is at least partially town lead. Right, or wrong?

Pers is the one I am voting and I don't see me changing my mind on this.

-Fire

[The Fire Hermit]

I liked how Taly is being a town leader right now tbh. I would be willing to disregard my scumread if she pushed a lynch on Persivul, since I still strongly think they are associated with each other.
I find it incredibly suspicious that the slot has avoided ALL contact with persivul. Even in that last post Taly is saying that she is 95% sure that Persivul is scum, but 5% of doubt is making her withhold. Well don't withhold, and vote persivul! That is where all my doubt is stemming from.

- St Constantine

[The Fire Hermit]

Still think something might be off with Persivul, but my reads have been way off this game. I guess I can see Errant being scum.
Will hammer if firebringer consents.

- Constantine

[The Fire Hermit]

Thats nice how I didn't get any "Day Begins" pm.

Anyways I am down for fast lynch on Pers slot.

VOTE: Titus

No offense Titus, but you did switch into a bad slot.

-Fire