Mini 1591: PFs Flavorless Normal (Game Over)

SleepyKrew · Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:02 am

Then what possessed you to say that in the first place?

SleepyKrew · Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:46 am

I'm not really sure if I can explain why it's bothering me.
Like why would you say "if it's true for anyone, it'd be CooLDoG"? I don't get why you singled him out despite not seeing or hearing about him doing it before.
idk it's probably nothing just vote pops

SleepyKrew · Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:51 am

So singer I see that you aren't voting pops

SleepyKrew · Fri Aug 15, 2014 5:44 am

In post 1349, I Am Innocent wrote:Your hammer 5 hrs before, when another player not on the wagon asked for a claim is shady.

Drew claims Vig. farside could hammer or no lynch. So either same result as me, or no lynch.

In post 1349, I Am Innocent wrote:Plus your vote on RC to start the day is what I would expect of scum who was trying to frame RC. So basically I've got an either/or scum of you or RC at this point.

Except I was pretty clearly questioning him about his actions during D1,

not

the Night.

SleepyKrew · Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:17 am

In post 1359, I Am Innocent wrote:If Drew claimed vig, I would have rather no lynch than hammer personally.

Why?

In post 1359, I Am Innocent wrote:As for Part 2 above, it is irrelevant what you were questioning him about. If RC is a bodyguard, scum have some way of altering that (or RC is lying about who he guarded N1), then I would expect scum to try and get a wagon going early D2 on RC, esp since they would know I would likely be willing to join it.

You were the only one who voted him tho. Caught my eye as I started to have doubts about RC fake claiming with no likely other protective roles out there.

It most certainly is not irrelevant what I was questioning him about.

SleepyKrew · Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:18 am

This game is stagnating too much. We should powerlynch someone.
(I will have an actual post later today)
(no but really I'm not kidding)

SleepyKrew · Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:32 pm

In post 1380, SleepyKrew wrote:This game is stagnating too much. We should powerlynch someone.
(I will have an actual post later today)
(no but really I'm not kidding)

Quick skim shows there actually wasn't anything I need to respond to, so okay.
singer, will you vote IAI with me? I'm dead serious about lynching someone super soon. This game needs adrenaline.

SleepyKrew · Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:33 pm

(a pops lynch would be even better but I think IAI is more realistic atm)

SleepyKrew · Sat Aug 16, 2014 1:49 pm

In post 1393, singersigner wrote:But no it's really frustrating when I just have you and bob making cases and no one else is really fighting for anything or offering their opinion. Like I said, I'll vote when I need to but right now I'm engaging in the game and trying to get active doalogue going in order to come to my own conclusions.

You've really only engaged with farside?

SleepyKrew · Sat Aug 16, 2014 2:24 pm

SleepyKrew · Sun Aug 17, 2014 12:01 pm

In post 1409, singersigner wrote:Yeah I feel like he was trying to get on my good side since my play upon replacing into games seems to be subpar as of late...

SleepyKrew · Mon Aug 18, 2014 4:23 am

IAI why do you have me so townie

SleepyKrew · Mon Aug 18, 2014 9:36 am

So can we lynch pops yet
If not
Then can we at least lynch IAI

SleepyKrew · Mon Aug 18, 2014 12:22 pm

singer why aren't you voting pops

SleepyKrew · Mon Aug 18, 2014 1:25 pm

and pops dammit
You will try to pops

SleepyKrew · Mon Aug 18, 2014 2:02 pm

In post 1463, RedCoyote wrote:I'm more than happy with a IAI vs pops situation. I think both of these slots have a good chance at flipping scum, so I couldn't ask for anything better.

Are these scumreads independent, or do you think a pops/IAI team is possible?

SleepyKrew · Mon Aug 18, 2014 2:11 pm

CooLDoG just inned for a game
I'm pissed off now

SleepyKrew · Mon Aug 18, 2014 2:15 pm

Well I think Beck said he was in too many games, so I can understand replacing out. CD saying BUSY and then joining another game less than a week later is bullshit and I'm going to publicly shame him later.

SleepyKrew · Mon Aug 18, 2014 3:52 pm

^scumclaim

SleepyKrew · Tue Aug 19, 2014 2:46 am

Oh wow how did I miss that. He "couldn't get into it"? Bull. Fucking. Shit.

SleepyKrew · Tue Aug 19, 2014 2:46 am

In other news, singer is in my top 2 favorite users with listmod access that are in this game.

SleepyKrew · Tue Aug 19, 2014 6:24 am

farside isn't the only person that's made a pops case(s)

SleepyKrew · Tue Aug 19, 2014 8:13 am

In post 1488, Dessew wrote:Is there anything new to the case after page 52, though?

In 1330 (which is on page 54) I show that calling Drew "the lesser of two evils" is disingenuous because he straight up called Drew scummy near the end of D1. I might have said that before, but I think 1330 is when I went and got the actual quote.

SleepyKrew · Tue Aug 19, 2014 8:18 am

In post 1494, Dessew wrote:
In post 1493, SleepyKrew wrote:
In post 1488, Dessew wrote:Is there anything new to the case after page 52, though?

In 1330 (which is on page 54) I show that calling Drew "the lesser of two evils" is disingenuous because he straight up called Drew scummy near the end of D1. I might have said that before, but I think 1330 is when I went and got the actual quote.

Yes, that's what I meant by good point. I'm phoneposting, so that's why the lack of quotes now.

Your post ninjad mine, I went ahead and posted it for everyone else.

SleepyKrew · Tue Aug 19, 2014 8:22 am

949, 951, and 1212
Putting those there for anyone interested^
shit I'm having flashbacks to reinoe suppress it SUPPRESS IT
Okay I suppressed it
In addition to the 4 posts I just linked, there's also the fact that pops dropped his case on me, and unvoted me, but is still calling me scum for vague reasons. I'm going to fact-check that last sentence.
Okay so pops didn't actually vote me today, but it definitely looked like he was intending to. His vague reason for still suspecting me is that me vs. reinoe didn't feel town v town. He's not pursuing his suspicion of me though.

PEDIT: Has Goofy expressed an opinion on either wagon? I thought he said he'd get to that soon.

SleepyKrew · Tue Aug 19, 2014 8:43 am

In post 1500, RedCoyote wrote:I don't care how anyone gets on the IAI wagon if he's scum, darling.

umm

SleepyKrew · Tue Aug 19, 2014 9:01 am

Yeah. Looking back at a wagon and figuring out which people were bussing is a thing. So I'm all for pops voting IAI for bad reasoning, but we shouldn't just ignore the bad reasoning.

PEDIT: farside was there anything that I was supposed to respond to?

SleepyKrew · Tue Aug 19, 2014 9:04 am

In post 1500, RedCoyote wrote:I don't care how anyone gets on the IAI wagon if he's scum, darling.

I took that to mean that you weren't going to go back and analyze intent etc

SleepyKrew · Tue Aug 19, 2014 9:09 am

farside if you vote IAI, I'll intent to hammer.

SleepyKrew · Tue Aug 19, 2014 9:15 am

I just realized that if it's 3 scum, we could potentially lose after just 2 mislynches. But that would be with the Vig alive, so that's not happening.

SleepyKrew · Tue Aug 19, 2014 11:04 am

In post 1514, RedCoyote wrote:you, pops, SK, IAI and Drew

Hey now I didn't start that until after you'd changed your vote.
Anyway I don't want you two fighting. I think we (the three of us) all want them both lynched, correct? I might be forgetting farside's position on IAI.

SleepyKrew · Tue Aug 19, 2014 11:08 am

Okay so let's all compromise on pops for now.

SleepyKrew · Tue Aug 19, 2014 11:09 am

Or IAI.

SleepyKrew · Tue Aug 19, 2014 11:16 am

I uh
Really want to see farside's response actually.
While we're here, RC did you ever explain how bodyguard is provable?

PEDIT: Welp I'll have a look later.

SleepyKrew · Tue Aug 19, 2014 11:26 am

In post 1528, RedCoyote wrote:It's provable by my dying, SK.

Well that defeats the purpose. But w/e, I think I believe your claim.
You two play nice please.

SleepyKrew · Tue Aug 19, 2014 11:34 am

Why do you think you'll die farside?

SleepyKrew · Tue Aug 19, 2014 5:03 pm

I got yer intent right here. Claim in next post. Don't really care about time, that's what prods are for.

SleepyKrew · Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:54 am

singer you're a fresh set of eyes. Could you look at the RC/farside thing?

SleepyKrew · Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:07 am

SleepyKrew · Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:21 am

In post 1544, Dessew wrote:Playing with two accounts innthe same game is a serious violation of the rules.
But, yeah, I don't like drama, that's all. And it's nothing more than drama.

wait what
This is happening?

SleepyKrew · Wed Aug 20, 2014 11:56 am

In post 1546, Dessew wrote:I posted: ohhh, farside, and you went like hmmm?
It was a joke!

RC's and farside's exchange is literally just a personal argument, as RC's on the offensive and he's explicitely said he doesn't want to lych her. There aren't even questions asked.

Oooooooh okay

SleepyKrew · Wed Aug 20, 2014 11:57 am

In post 1553, RedCoyote wrote:If pops flips town, I swear to mith I'm going to be very upset with the townies among you, singer, farside and SK.

I thought you thought pops was scum too?

SleepyKrew · Wed Aug 20, 2014 11:59 am

In post 1547, Goofyd00d wrote:I had a heart palpitation lol

Are you saying this because of me/Dessew or was it REAL LIFE?

SleepyKrew · Wed Aug 20, 2014 12:01 pm

In post 1542, Dessew wrote:Ohhh, farside.

I don't think you've explained why you wrote this.
four posts wheeeeeee

SleepyKrew · Wed Aug 20, 2014 3:19 pm

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SleepyKrew · Wed Aug 20, 2014 3:21 pm

You're alone because everyone else thinks one or both of pops/IAI are scum.

In post 1565, Squirrel Girl wrote:neighbor

?!?!

SleepyKrew · Wed Aug 20, 2014 3:28 pm

In post 1493, SleepyKrew wrote:
In post 1488, Dessew wrote:Is there anything new to the case after page 52, though?

In 1330 (which is on page 54) I show that calling Drew "the lesser of two evils" is disingenuous because he straight up called Drew scummy near the end of D1. I might have said that before, but I think 1330 is when I went and got the actual quote.

In post 1497, SleepyKrew wrote:949, 951, and 1212
Putting those there for anyone interested^
shit I'm having flashbacks to reinoe suppress it SUPPRESS IT
Okay I suppressed it
In addition to the 4 posts I just linked, there's also the fact that pops dropped his case on me, and unvoted me, but is still calling me scum for vague reasons. I'm going to fact-check that last sentence.
Okay so pops didn't actually vote me today, but it definitely looked like he was intending to. His vague reason for still suspecting me is that me vs. reinoe didn't feel town v town. He's not pursuing his suspicion of me though.

PEDIT: Has Goofy expressed an opinion on either wagon? I thought he said he'd get to that soon.

The difference being that grandmother isn't an actual role.
Here's my pops stuff. idk how useful it'll be without having read the game though.

SleepyKrew · Wed Aug 20, 2014 3:29 pm

(you could totally just hammer and catch up during the night phase btw)

SleepyKrew · Wed Aug 20, 2014 4:51 pm

Here I'll summarize why I think pops is scummy.
Near the end of D1, he:
1. did what looked like setting up RC to be mislynched in LYLO
2. straight up lied about something, saying IAI did something when actually he hadn't (not sure if he ever responded to this)
On D2, he:
3. pushed me for terrible reasoning that also applied to himself
4. acknowledged his hypocrisy, stopped pushing me, but still called me scum one(?) more time for something completely different and with no conviction
5. his posting in general today has just seemed scummy to me but that might be confirmation bias

I think that's all of my stuff. Did I miss any questions?

SleepyKrew · Wed Aug 20, 2014 4:53 pm

6. he's saying he voted Drew basically to avoid a no lynch, even though he explicitly called Drew scummy

SleepyKrew · Thu Aug 21, 2014 4:25 am

In post 1591, Squirrel Girl wrote:I'll admit I don't get the Drew vote issue - that seems reasonable as an action paired with his stated beliefs. Maybe I'm just dumb and am missing it, but I don't really see the fire there.

He is saying that he voted Drew because he HAD to pick one of Drew/CD, and decided that Drew was a slightly less bad choice. What actually happened was he called Drew scummy. Has pops ever even tried to contest this point?

SleepyKrew · Thu Aug 21, 2014 4:51 am

I think he wants to distance from the wagon because it led to VIG LYNCH.
The problem isn't that he voted Drew or claimed to find him scummy. The problem is that after the flip, pops has been acting like Drew wasn't a scumread.

SleepyKrew · Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:01 am

Dude I don't think it's scummy either. Doing it and then distancing from it after the flip is what's scummy. Plus a bunch of other stuff.

SleepyKrew · Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:21 am

In post 1601, Dessew wrote:What I'm trying to imply is that the idea of that wagon (or other wagons) would have such a huge impact on how this day turns out is very unique to IAI. So if you're right with the explanation, pops got the idea from him, right? I mean, I state it: if pops lied with the intentions you wrote a few posts ago (and let's be honest, the only other "reasonable" explanation is that he forgot), then it originates from IAI and therefore they're most likely buddies. I don't know if they make sense as a team otherwise, I haven't been looking at them only individually.

So you're saying that they could be buddies but you haven't really looked into it? Or am I misinterpreting?

SleepyKrew · Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:41 am

In post 1606, Squirrel Girl wrote:Wasn't the Vig claim made *after* the lynch had happened?

Correct.
I'll do your other stuff later or maybe someone will hammer please

SleepyKrew · Thu Aug 21, 2014 8:02 am

In post 1625, Squirrel Girl wrote:Are you okay with IAI calling people scummy for lynching a "confirmable" role - when they didn't know that?
I'm asking this because a big part of your case on Pops seems to be about lies - so I'm curious of your attitude towards this lie.

I'm scumreading both of them. pops lynch is better because I made a pops case that I think is good.

SleepyKrew · Thu Aug 21, 2014 8:15 am

Information about what?

SleepyKrew · Thu Aug 21, 2014 8:40 am

In post 1637, Squirrel Girl wrote:
In post 1633, SleepyKrew wrote:I'm scumreading both of them. pops lynch is better because I made a pops case that I think is good.

I have to love you because of Chris Pratt - but I have to hate you for this answer

Do you have more townreads voting Pops? Because that might at least justify the stance, if not then I will somehow overcome the cuteness of the avatar and just hate you.

farside is a weak townread. RC has given intent to hammer so can I count him? I don't usually develop a lot of townreads so yeah

SleepyKrew · Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:18 pm

In post 1644, popsofctown wrote:If I'm playing a little like a survivor, well, it's because I seem to have no power to get anyone lynched no matter what I say. It sorta seemed like the only thing I could do is prevent my own lynch, then, since I know I'm town.

But you aren't even doing this.

SleepyKrew · Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:14 pm

In post 1649, Squirrel Girl wrote:@Sleepy - why is Farside town? I think that is probably wrong.

I've felt pretty synched with her about pops. However, if one of IAI/farside flips scum, then the other probably is too (I never said that before because I only just realized it).

SleepyKrew · Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:15 pm

"probably" is probably too strong a word.

SleepyKrew · Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:28 pm

In post 1652, Squirrel Girl wrote:I do still stand by my previously stated commentary about your reads

I cannot skim-find this >.<

SleepyKrew · Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:39 pm

I'm totally missing the joke. Can you quote this previously stated commentary for me?

SleepyKrew · Fri Aug 22, 2014 5:15 am

In post 1660, I Am Innocent wrote:Squirrel girl, what do u think of a player who is asked to produce his or her reads on all players but refuses to do so? Esp when they are tunneling one player, and have been on both confirmed town wagons?

In post 1661, Cyberbob wrote:(he's asking you what you think of me by the way, it's very subtle)

I think it applies to me too, actually.

SleepyKrew · Fri Aug 22, 2014 6:56 am

lalala intent blah blah blah

SleepyKrew · Fri Aug 22, 2014 7:05 am

Sorry, my Squirrelese is rusty.

SleepyKrew · Fri Aug 22, 2014 7:22 am

I want to hear RC's thoughts

SleepyKrew · Fri Aug 22, 2014 8:07 am

In post 1686, I Am Innocent wrote:Before u insult me maybe u should meta me next time.

This is the first time you've mentioned meta all game.

SleepyKrew · Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:23 am

In post 1719, Goofyd00d wrote:If IAI flips town and pops wins as scum I'm going to be a sad panda.

???
How does an IAI mislynch = a pops scum win?

SleepyKrew · Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:05 am

In post 1724, Goofyd00d wrote:
In post 1721, SleepyKrew wrote:
In post 1719, Goofyd00d wrote:If IAI flips town and pops wins as scum I'm going to be a sad panda.

???
How does an IAI mislynch = a pops scum win?

I knew someone would take that wrong, was hoping for once I wouldn't have to account for slip happy people. I just meant if that happened, not that it would happen tonight.

I don't think it's a slip; I just don't get it at all.

SleepyKrew · Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:56 pm

In post 1733, RedCoyote wrote:I missed this during my skim of 1226. This is an outstanding catch, Dessew. Everytime I try to go back and read this game, something new comes up that makes me want to dig my heels in. SK, did you see this point?

I might have commented on it when I was defending my hammer, but yeah I definitely noticed and it's part of the reason I suspect him. I did get that he meant "now confirmed", but I still think just phrasing it that way is suspicious.

SleepyKrew · Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:57 pm

In post 1750, RedCoyote wrote:I voted him, and I'm town. This argument doesn't exactly blow my socks off.

I think it's really weird that IAI didn't comment on this because it's actually somewhat of a misrep.

SleepyKrew · Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:08 pm

You clearly aren't done discussing, and I want to see Squirrel Girl's response to you (I've got some predictions!) so no hammer yet.

SleepyKrew · Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:48 pm

In post 1773, farside22 wrote:
In post 1767, SleepyKrew wrote:You clearly aren't done discussing, and I want to see Squirrel Girl's response to you (I've got some predictions!) so no hammer yet.

What do you think of squirel girls defense of pops?

I don't think it is what you think it is, but I'm going to let Squirrely explain/prove me wrong.

SleepyKrew · Fri Aug 22, 2014 6:55 pm

omg thor

SleepyKrew · Sat Aug 23, 2014 6:41 am

In post 1789, RedCoyote wrote:You're saying that I misrepresented him? How so?

He's been saying that some of the people on both wagons are going to be town, but some of them are also definitely scum. The fact that he didn't correct you, even when I pointed it out, makes me think he's not genuinely pushing that argument.

SleepyKrew · Sat Aug 23, 2014 6:43 am

UNVOTE:
VOTE: IAI

omg thor

SleepyKrew · Sat Aug 23, 2014 6:45 am

In post 1767, SleepyKrew wrote:I want to see Squirrel Girl's response to you (I've got some predictions!)

I'm so awesome

SleepyKrew · Sat Aug 23, 2014 7:04 am

Calm down farside :s

SleepyKrew · Sat Aug 23, 2014 7:10 am

There's a difference between mad and insulting.

SleepyKrew · Sat Aug 23, 2014 7:21 am

No flip is going to justify being that insulting.
PEDIT: ^^

SleepyKrew · Sat Aug 23, 2014 7:35 am

what the fuck

SleepyKrew · Sat Aug 23, 2014 1:28 pm

puh puh puh poker puh poker fuh face

SleepyKrew · Sat Aug 23, 2014 1:35 pm

Did I miss a puh?

SleepyKrew · Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:05 pm

Am I the only one that knows who Squirrely is? This information was recently opened to the public. I've even mentioned it a couple of times.

SleepyKrew · Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:25 pm

In post 1875, farside22 wrote:Mala?

SleepyKrew · Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:34 pm

HAMMER TIME

SleepyKrew · Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:34 pm

I hope my last two posts will amuse Squirrely.

SleepyKrew · Sat Aug 23, 2014 6:55 pm

In post 1881, Squirrel Girl wrote:I would prefer you react to me as this playstyle, rather than hanging the old weights on my neck.

I don't think I'm too familiar with your main anyway. But my expectations are certainly higher.

SleepyKrew · Sat Aug 23, 2014 7:37 pm

Thank goodness I'm shit

SleepyKrew · Tue Aug 26, 2014 4:37 am

I can't find a result crumb.
I want to lynch pops in his face.

SleepyKrew · Tue Aug 26, 2014 5:12 am

If you think farside was roleblocked, you should be calling RC scum.
But I doubt she would have hidden being blocked, for that same reason.

SleepyKrew · Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:06 am

In post 1907, Dessew wrote:Goofy, are you scum? If not, unvote.

Please explain why you made this post.

SleepyKrew · Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:25 am

DESSEW

SleepyKrew · Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:53 am

There was no reason you made that post? No reason you called out Goofy but not Squirrely?

SleepyKrew · Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:54 am

Like, why should he unvote. What's the big deal?

SleepyKrew · Tue Aug 26, 2014 9:06 am

MYLO assumes three scum. Saying Goofy needs to unvote or is scum doesn't make sense there, because scum can still quickhammer without him, assuming Squirrely is town.

SleepyKrew · Tue Aug 26, 2014 9:07 am

Also, if you don't want a lynch right away, I'd assume you either want to NL or to lynch after discussion, right? But you're not discussing or pushing an NL.

SleepyKrew · Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:49 am

In post 1916, Dessew wrote:it takes 5 to lynch.

Right yes well in that case I'm wrong.
What should the people that haven't posted yet be posting?

SleepyKrew · Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:21 am

Yeah, that would just get "didn't go anywhere".
Why do you suspect singer? I thought that read was dependent on IAI being scum?

SleepyKrew · Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:02 am

I don't think that's a townslip. I'm really not sure whether to expect 2 or 3 scum. If it is 3, I'm going to have words with the reviewers though.

SleepyKrew · Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:21 am

In post 1925, singersigner wrote:When the fuck was 25% scum unbalanced?

??

I considered if she had a guilty on pops but 1) she didn't push pops at the start of D2 and 2) do you really think she'd threaten to replace out instead of outting the result?

SleepyKrew · Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:28 am

3 scum means the game could potentially have ended after just 2 mislynches though. I'm really not sure and also don't think it's worth debating.

SleepyKrew · Wed Aug 27, 2014 6:20 am

He's calling you town because he doesn't think scum would have said that.

SleepyKrew · Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:07 am

That and the fact that our protective role (I believe RC) doesn't actually stop kills.
But again, this is just a distraction.

SleepyKrew · Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:08 am

I think everyone except pops has posted.
I'm also not seeing any actually relevant discussion going on, nor can I think of any suggestions. So I want to just lynch pops.

SleepyKrew · Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:30 am

What's the point of not quicklynching when there's no discussion though?

SleepyKrew · Wed Aug 27, 2014 9:28 am

Well okay then.

SleepyKrew · Wed Aug 27, 2014 12:26 pm

In post 1939, RedCoyote wrote:...because Dessew is a claimed PR? :/

He's essentially a named VT at this point though.

SleepyKrew · Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:38 am

Or it could not be mylo but whatever
RC can we lynch his face now?

SleepyKrew · Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:39 am

Squirrely why are you voting pops?

SleepyKrew · Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:50 am

Squirrel's pops vote is bugging me.

SleepyKrew · Thu Aug 28, 2014 9:07 am

Why did you vote if you don't like either of the other votes? Why are you trying to get the lynch done quickly after I actually started trying to discuss something? Wait plz

SleepyKrew · Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:31 am

In post 1948, SleepyKrew wrote:Squirrely why are you voting pops?

SleepyKrew · Thu Aug 28, 2014 1:35 pm

Why do you think farside was killed and not one of the other pops-pushers (aka me)?

SleepyKrew · Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:42 pm

How come yesterday you didn't try to push reinoe's top scumread?

SleepyKrew · Thu Aug 28, 2014 3:52 pm

That didn't stop you from temporarily pushing farside.

SleepyKrew · Thu Aug 28, 2014 6:42 pm

singer please explain the Squirrel read.

SleepyKrew · Fri Aug 29, 2014 11:43 am

In post 1981, Squirrel Girl wrote:You are correct, but I'm not sure I understand the issue.

Me: "Why didn't you push reinoe's top scumread?"
You: "IAI and pops were the only viable lynches at the time."
Me: "You pushed farside at that time though."
So that's not an acceptable excuse.

SleepyKrew · Fri Aug 29, 2014 12:20 pm

That doesn't explain why you didn't push reinoe's top scumread. If you think being scumread by the nightkill is scummy, then you should've at least looked at who reinoe had been pushing. But you didn't.

SleepyKrew · Fri Aug 29, 2014 1:13 pm

In post 1986, Squirrel Girl wrote:Maybe I should have pushed her more, but I certainly never expressed that I town read her, nor does the lack of my push somehow suggest I don't use that as a means to assess scumminess - which is the only way this is a problem unless I'm misunderstanding you.

Is "her" singer? I'm going to assume it is. I don't remember you pushing singer at all?
The fact that you didn't use "who was the kill suspecting" yesterday, despite it being your entire case today (right? I seem to recall you thinking both IAI and pops were null) makes me think that you don't genuinely believe that tactic works.

In post 1986, Squirrel Girl wrote:Basically you're pointing out that yesterday, on a replace in, and with two strong wagons, and short time in the day, that I didn't functional showcase every thought I had nor did I address my read on every player. I will agree that this is true, but I don't think it's actually alignment indicative nor does it invalidate my push today.

Why are you hyperbolizing what I'm saying? You had the time to push someone besides one of the two strong wagons; that means you had the time to push singer since that's who reinoe had suspected. But you chose not to.

Can you show me a quote where you expressed any read besides null on pops before today?

SleepyKrew · Sat Aug 30, 2014 1:14 pm

Welp apparently I'm barking up the wrong tree going after Squirrel so I'll hammer whenever

SleepyKrew · Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:53 am

Good game scum.
I'm sorry for my part in making D1 what it was.
I stand by the setup concerns I voiced in the dead thread.
Why'd you kill me? If I'd been alive, you two would probably have been my strongest townreads :/

SleepyKrew · Mon Sep 15, 2014 5:31 am

In post 2290, Konowa wrote:I just couldn't get into the game with all the vileness D1.

Sorry :/

SleepyKrew · Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:28 am

You got lucky that farside didn't counterclaim. You also got lucky that you were killed before you could fuck up D2 because of your claim.

SleepyKrew · Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:27 am

In post 2305, reinoe wrote:
In post 2303, SleepyKrew wrote:You got lucky that farside didn't counterclaim. You also got lucky that you were killed before you could fuck up D2 because of your claim.

It's not luck it's skill. Speaking of fuckups, since you want to go there, you derailed the wagon on scum to attempt a mislynch on town. Please don't talk to anyone about fuckups.

The difference being that I readily admit my faults and mistakes while you're an arrogant assholeish prick.

SleepyKrew · Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:56 am

In post 2309, reinoe wrote:Didn't you hammer a pr without giving them a chance to claim?

Because deadline, yes.

SleepyKrew · Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:59 am

idr the exact details but a quick look shows me that I probably should have waited for farside.

SleepyKrew · Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:52 pm

Sure, I'll hug Cyberbob.

SleepyKrew · Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:52 pm

No sleepykrew stop

SleepyKrew · Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:04 pm

In post 2346, Squirrel Girl wrote:That's one of a few reasons Sleepy died - he was at least shown to be able to lead compared to the other surviving town players.

You guys really overestimated me ^_^

SleepyKrew · Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:27 pm

In post 2349, Squirrel Girl wrote:Maybe you underestimate yourself.

After hammering two mislynches and then trying to derail the scum lynch, I definitely would not have even attempted to get into a leadership position. I appreciate the flattery of being the kill though.

SleepyKrew · Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:34 pm

In post 2368, Drew-Sta wrote:So I picked Konowa and RC, and you guys managed to lynch me D1

Well played mafia - you did well.

In post 2371, Drew-Sta wrote:Well played scum I had 2 of you on D1, and ended up getting lynched! Oh well.