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Not much can really be made from the first 3 pages
I'll give my immediate reads
The early wagon on implosion IMO is a bit of an over reaction
In post 51, dragonspawn wrote:In post 49, implosion wrote:Unvote
VOTE: GrayFoxxxx
I wanted to do this earlier but there was no one else voting him so it wasn't really worth it. Thank you, KK.
Yeah I
Dont like this. Town doesn't need cover for a vote.
VOTE: implosion
In post 54, Shazam wrote:In post 51, dragonspawn wrote:In post 49, implosion wrote:Unvote
VOTE: GrayFoxxxx
I wanted to do this earlier but there was no one else voting him so it wasn't really worth it. Thank you, KK.
Yeah I
Dont like this. Town doesn't need cover for a vote.
VOTE: implosion
these to posts seemed scummy to me-
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Ok page 4 was a lot better than the last 3
I'll give you my reads
In post 77, Shazam wrote:In post 69, MarioManiac4 wrote:In post 67, Shazam wrote:In post 64, MarioManiac4 wrote:Yes, but 3 votes had already been placed on Implosion. I think he should have been trying to find another possible scum at that point.
Scummiest thing yet. Not only are you wrong about how many votes were on implosion, but what townie would suggest that we need to find two scum before putting pressure on one? Definitely seeing a Mario/Implosion team as a possibility.
If spawn was the 3rd vote, then I retract what I said
3 is not actually bad and we can keep this on Implosion.
And I was thinking that we already had 4 votes on Implosion. What's more, it is good to have pressure on more than one player, as otherwise if we're wrong we have nothing to fall on. And I don't like how you said that being wrong is scummy.
Being wrong in a way that diverts attention from someone else is scummy. But only if that someone else is scum themselves. Hence no vote on you.
I like Kublai's reasoning. VOTE: GrayFoxxxx
I don't like this. A bandwagon on kub. Scum points for you
In post 82, FA_Q2 wrote:In post 79, MarioManiac4 wrote:In post 73, Necessary Evil wrote:WoodyWoodpecker wrote:In post 70, Necessary Evil wrote:This idea that we need multiple suspects is awfully strange.
Hi, have you played mafia before?
Yes. Something the timing seems strange, especially since he is still voting for Implosion.
You seem to be unable to realise someone can have more than one scumread. In this setup, there is likely three mafia. I don't see why I can't suspect more than one person.
In post 60, MarioManiac4 wrote:In post 51, dragonspawn wrote:In post 49, implosion wrote:Unvote
VOTE: GrayFoxxxx
I wanted to do this earlier but there was no one else voting him so it wasn't really worth it. Thank you, KK.
Yeah I
Dont like this. Town doesn't need cover for a vote.
VOTE: implosion
I don't paticularly like this vote from Dragonspawn. It seems rather oppurtunistic with a wagon on Implosion starting.
What makes you think dragonspawn's vote was opportunistic? He gave a fine reason for it, I think. Further, why are you voting Implosion when the first suspicion you have is towards dragonspawn?
In post 71, MarioManiac4 wrote:Is that RVS?
If not, then since when have we only had one suspect on D1?
We do not have to lynch every suspect.
I think we're better off focusing on one at a time. It creates more pressure and keeps the town from becoming splintered. However, I am not necessarily opposed to having multiple suspects at a time. What you specifically suggested seemed suspicious to me so I am investigating you.
If everyone agrees on one person, that's a bad sign, as that means mafia are content with the lynch.
We are better off with everyone grilling their scumread, like you are doing with me right now.
And yet your vote remains on the target of the one that you are scum reading...
You are doing a bit of damage control and essentially nothing else.[/quote]
I like this. Town points for you
In post 91, implosion wrote:In post 90, GrayFoxxxx wrote:In post 89, implosion wrote:For me at least, it's not about actively avoiding reactions. It's more of a subconscious thing.
You subconsciously think I'm scum?
No, I'm saying that scum will subconsciously do things like overjustifying RVS votes because they want to avoid being conspicuous. Hence there being other ways to avoid reactions is irrelevant. But I also somewhat like post 80, so.
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VOTE: Necessary Evil
Necessary Evil voted for Mario for doing something "strange", without equating strange with scummy. When questioned on it he once again called it strange. I'd like a better explanation of why strange in this case equates to scummy.
Good candidates for town so far are dragonspawn and Woody, and maybe Shazam. Boonskiies also might be scum.
He voted because he thought he was scum. Seems odd. Null-
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In post 126, Boonskiies wrote:Khan's like the towniest guy besides me.
Makes no sense
no explaination for that?In post 132, implosion wrote:Boon's also no longer scummy.
that was not pressure or at least it did not seem like to me. Your probably on top of my scum list atmIn post 134, Necessary Evil wrote:In post 91, implosion wrote:
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VOTE: Necessary Evil
Necessary Evil voted for Mario for doing something "strange", without equating strange with scummy. When questioned on it he once again called it strange. I'd like a better explanation of why strange in this case equates to scummy.
Good candidates for town so far are dragonspawn and Woody, and maybe Shazam. Boonskiies also might be scum.
Yes, it was strange but not necessarily scummy. It caught my intention and I investigated further by voting and questioning MarioManiac4. I voted him to create some pressure. I'm not totally sure about him at this point but I am leaning towards scum and I would like an answer to my question about the lack of a vote on dragonspawn.
you think gray is scum for asking questions? If anything that makes him townIn post 139, implosion wrote:Why are you so concerned with your vote's 'weight' so early?
Because people (aka Grayfoxxxx) keep asking me about it? I'm not going to ignore questions or arguments made towards me.
Like why are you more focused on your votes placement than on addressing scumreads or producing content?
I have addressed reads and produced content; points were made towards me, so I'm going to address those points. No one has criticized any of myreadsas of yet, so I haven't discussed any in-depth. I've given a number of townreads (dragon, woody, shazam) and a current scumread on NE; I gave a scumread on foxxxx which I've since retracted, and a weak scumread on Boon, which I've since retracted (he's now in the townread pile, foxxxx is null). I can go in-depth into any involved reasoning if desired.
Another point I have been harping on, and will harp on more: KK really has not towntold yet. Everything he's done so far is just pure reasoning; it isn't necessarily a towntell for him just because you agree with his reasoning. I'd like to hear from Boon why KK is town.
I would have also expected you to vote him after you said you wanted to. Why havent you?
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In post 171, Bulbazoor wrote:VOTE: mario
I think you should stop blabbering abour rvs. Mario seems a bit iffy. He defends people for basically pointless reasons.
these two votes were awful fast boon seemed pretty eager there. But then again I can kinda see where he is coming from. My predecessor did not play well at allIn post 172, Boonskiies wrote:Mario is playing exactly the same as my scum game with him last game. He doesn't respond to like anything. Comes in, posts one thing, completely changes direction of game and expects people to just believe him.
VOTE: Mario-
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you don't have to remind us that you are town. That is normally something anti town players doIn post 213, Bulbazoor wrote:It is basically a vote on a slot that I find the scummiest. Why dont you like my vote? I find hes trying to act logical like last game in the marathon. As town, I usually see him acting more funnier and sarcastic. In games I read where he was town.
meta off of activity is poor meta.In post 221, Boonskiies wrote:No, i'm meta'ing him off of the lack of him posting much.-
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In post 228, Boonskiies wrote:You seem like you are just looking for town cred, rather than scum hunting.
That's not always a bad thing. You can get scum by process of elimination
In post 237, GrayFoxxxx wrote:In post 235, Boonskiies wrote:Help me see things from your perspective.
If game ended today. I think I would find at least one scum in Bulb,implosion,and shazam
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In post 339, Bulbazoor wrote:Can you explain your scumread on me?
It's not a strong scum read tbh but to explain it you were a bit wish washy and were eager to jump on a wagon-
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In post 343, Shazam wrote:In post 321, TheDominator37 wrote:Oh and I forgot in post 133 shaman seems awful eager to vote Mario or foxx
Yes, I was. What is your point? I was already voting one of them, and later switched to the other. They're the two players whose posts I like the least so far in this game.
TheDominator37 wrote:Ok I'm pretty much caught up. You guys want to interrogate me? Want me to RC?
I don't care if you roleclaim. I doubt very much whether it would change anything.
Scum are often eager to vote up someone and it was pretty early in the game and you wanted to vote up me and foxx. It looked scummy IMO-
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that is what triggered mine a bit too. What was your reasoning?In post 355, Bulbazoor wrote:In post 343, Shazam wrote:In post 321, TheDominator37 wrote:Oh and I forgot in post 133 shaman seems awful eager to vote Mario or foxx
Yes, I was. What is your point? I was already voting one of them, and later switched to the other. They're the two players whose posts I like the least so far in this game.
TheDominator37 wrote:Ok I'm pretty much caught up. You guys want to interrogate me? Want me to RC?
I don't care if you roleclaim. I doubt very much whether it would change anything.
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In post 376, Boonskiies wrote:Town to Scum
Boonskiies
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FA_Q2
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WoodyWoodpecker
StubbsKVM
Necessary Evil
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2 things
Mind explaining those
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In post 359, TheDominator37 wrote:
that is what triggered mine a bit too. What was your reasoning?In post 355, Bulbazoor wrote:In post 343, Shazam wrote:In post 321, TheDominator37 wrote:Oh and I forgot in post 133 shaman seems awful eager to vote Mario or foxx
Yes, I was. What is your point? I was already voting one of them, and later switched to the other. They're the two players whose posts I like the least so far in this game.
TheDominator37 wrote:Ok I'm pretty much caught up. You guys want to interrogate me? Want me to RC?
I don't care if you roleclaim. I doubt very much whether it would change anything.
Reeks of antitown mindset.
@bulbplease answer-
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In post 389, Boonskiies wrote:nah, that was just the counter argument, and I didn't feel like arguing it because it was stupid. All his posts are exactly like they were with ScumMario; he got wagon'd and he avoided the site, forcing to replace. This is EXACTLY what happened last game. And then, as soon as it was abandoned, he instantly signs up for this game.
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In post 413, WoodyWoodpecker wrote:my reads right now for scum are khan, shazam, and FaQ
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ive scum read him since I've been in this game
In post 424, Boonskiies wrote:In post 416, TheDominator37 wrote:My scum team is shazam and implosion. Not sure about the third
Possibly NE or Boon
Why am I only possibly? I feel from your position, if you were town, I should be your number 1 suspect.
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why are you so high on shazamIn post 580, Boonskiies wrote:I'm going to continue to update this as I see fit.
Town to Scum
Boonskiies
dragonspawn
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Notes on biggest movements:
• Wackpecker has obviously moved scummier. I don't agree with a lot of what he is saying, and don't see the town motivation in how he is playing. I also don't enjoy how he keeps responding to me and misrepping A LOT, and only reading what he wants to read.
• Stubbs has moved down on my list due to inactivity really. He has 6 posts. 6. Day 1 is often a day where scum can easily lurk without being noticed, so I definitely want to see more of this.
• Grayfoxx has moved up, as I actually like how her posts feel lately, and it seems more genuine than before.-
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In post 740, implosion wrote:I think I agree with boon's assessment of FA's most recent slew of posts. Something about the way he frames Woody/boon's interaction feels off. He just says that he doesn't like them because of the exchange without any further explanation, but it seems strange that the first thing that would come to mind after such a heated back-and-forth exchange would be that they both become scummier for having been involved. It just feels like an excuse to vote Woody and lead in to a Boon fos tomorrow. He talks about information from the lynch in the case that we get scum, but lynching scum is almost always going to give useful information.
I feel like taking this argument and framing it as "there's probably scum amongst the two of them" is a fairly likely scum tactic. And I don't see it as being a likely reaction to the argument as town. So. This is further strengthened to some degree by my still thinking both of them are town.
I also have a good initial impression of Annarchy's (Stubbs replacement) opening.
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VOTE: FA
Still have a (decently) strong scumread on the NE slot, contingent of course on spicer's posting. But my votes have been dead ends for pretty much this entire day, and I think I'm happy with this vote right now.
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In post 760, Bulbazoor wrote:Can you explain. Dom?
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In post 767, Boonskiies wrote:Oh yeah...
@Dom - You Baaaa'd Implosions post when he voted FA. You are against that?
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In post 819, Shazam wrote:I want everyone to get caught up, but once that happens, we're beginning to run out of time. It would be good for everyone to think of a few people they'd be ok lynching and start zeroing in on some players that could actually be lynched.
We already did
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In post 886, TheDominator37 wrote:Anna/shazam/bulb scum team?
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He's almost soft reading FA hoping for a mislynch
In post 928, Bulbazoor wrote:I feel like I am about to be mislynched.
And then here this post means nothing. If you are about to be lynched and you are town we know it will be a mislynch. You don't have to say that-
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In post 973, Annarchy wrote:I feel confident he's scum now
he probably won't be killed tonight if telling the truth, which would be the main use of a claimed PR
I think leaving him alive will probably just end in us wasting time lynching him later
overall I see the benefits of lynching him are now greater than the benefits of keeping him alive
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