Mini 1697 - a Re-balanced Game of Mafia - GAME OVER

TheDominator37 · Post Post #19 (isolation #0) » Sat Jul 11, 2015 2:57 am

In post 17, Thesp wrote:Hello everyone! I tend to be less active on weekends, so I'm just checking in quickly here. I would like to know three things of everyone:
1) How much Mafia have you played before (in person or online)?
2) How active are you typically in a Mafia game? That is, is there sort of a posts per day frequency that's approximately typical for you?
3) Are you scum?

1) This is my third on this site, I have player many in person, 100+ games of ToS and played 3 on another site
2) idk pretty active
3) Yes

TheDominator37 · Post Post #20 (isolation #1) » Sat Jul 11, 2015 2:58 am

Forgot my RVS
VOTE: nether for have a pinocio like avatar

TheDominator37 · Post Post #22 (isolation #2) » Sat Jul 11, 2015 3:52 am

But it looks like it and I don't like it

TheDominator37 · Post Post #26 (isolation #3) » Sat Jul 11, 2015 5:37 am

In post 23, Netherspite wrote:You didn't answer. Do you claim scum?

yes

TheDominator37 · Post Post #32 (isolation #4) » Sat Jul 11, 2015 6:39 am

Op @nether we gotta lynch pj too
He's my scum buddie

TheDominator37 · Post Post #40 (isolation #5) » Sat Jul 11, 2015 8:28 am

I am currently in this game with fire where he seems a lot newbier than here could possibly mean he is town but maybe. We'lol see

TheDominator37 · Post Post #41 (isolation #6) » Sat Jul 11, 2015 8:28 am

In post 40, TheDominator37 wrote:I am currently in this game with fire where he seems a lot newbier than here could possibly mean he is town but maybe. We'lol see

Forgot the link
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=62455

TheDominator37 · Post Post #43 (isolation #7) » Sat Jul 11, 2015 8:42 am

That counts as that?
I've seen someone else do that and they didn't get in trouble

TheDominator37 · Post Post #45 (isolation #8) » Sat Jul 11, 2015 8:46 am

I thought discussing would be like doing what you would do it that game on this thread

TheDominator37 · Post Post #48 (isolation #9) » Sat Jul 11, 2015 9:04 am

It was a joke...

TheDominator37 · Post Post #53 (isolation #10) » Sat Jul 11, 2015 9:58 am

Nether you are growing on my scum list for unreasoned accusations

TheDominator37 · Post Post #68 (isolation #11) » Sun Jul 12, 2015 7:45 am

@alchemist mind explaining your scum read on fire?

TheDominator37 · Post Post #89 (isolation #12) » Sun Jul 12, 2015 3:12 pm

I don't get why thesp is being scum read

TheDominator37 · Post Post #90 (isolation #13) » Sun Jul 12, 2015 3:55 pm

The only thing I could see is the question about our experience. That could be a how experienced are you so I can make an informed decision on who to kill

TheDominator37 · Post Post #115 (isolation #14) » Mon Jul 13, 2015 12:05 pm

@rad mind If I call you that? And could you please keep the name in your quoted it is troublesome for me to read

TheDominator37 · Post Post #116 (isolation #15) » Mon Jul 13, 2015 12:07 pm

This is the first game ever that I have had no reads this far

TheDominator37 · Post Post #143 (isolation #16) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 1:03 pm

V/LA until Saturday thanks!

TheDominator37 · Post Post #144 (isolation #17) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 1:03 pm

mod V/LA until Saturday thanks!

TheDominator37 · Post Post #145 (isolation #18) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 1:04 pm

Oops double post

TheDominator37 · Post Post #146 (isolation #19) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 1:08 pm

I'm going with who I think is most scummy atm
VOTE: rad

TheDominator37 · Post Post #191 (isolation #20) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 2:22 pm

In post 174, ActionDan wrote:
bump

?

TheDominator37 · Post Post #210 (isolation #21) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 1:51 am

Nether and eventi are looking like scum buddies VOTE: nether

TheDominator37 · Post Post #233 (isolation #22) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 5:10 pm

In post 221, Alchemist21 wrote:@Dominator, care to explain your scumreads?

I may have been scumreading RC partly for playstyle. There are still parts of her early play that don't add up, and I still have a mild scumread on the slot, but I want to engage some other players for a while.

VOTE: Duppin

Where is this guy?

TheDominator37 · Post Post #244 (isolation #23) » Fri Jul 17, 2015 3:03 am

Lynch me if you want I'm town
And when I flip kill nether
I'd like to kill Atoriax.

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TheDominator37 · Post Post #252 (isolation #24) » Fri Jul 17, 2015 6:05 am

I can't defend you make no sense
All I can say is I'm not scum

TheDominator37 · Post Post #256 (isolation #25) » Fri Jul 17, 2015 7:52 am

In post 253, Netherspite wrote:
@All Alone

TheDominator
is obvious scum since beginning of the game.
I'm just trying to find more obscure scum because we can always lynch
TheDominator37
. I doubt town will need any more to be convinced lynching him.

Yup I'm 10000000000% percent scum lynch me now
VOTE: dom

TheDominator37 · Post Post #276 (isolation #26) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 1:45 am

VOTE: eventi

TheDominator37 · Post Post #278 (isolation #27) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 3:05 am

Eventi nether and cowbwll

TheDominator37 · Post Post #282 (isolation #28) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 5:59 am

BBBs gambit is what I'm doing
/sarcasm

TheDominator37 · Post Post #284 (isolation #29) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:59 am

Could we like not kill me
I'm town
Instead we could kill cowbell or nether

TheDominator37 · Post Post #286 (isolation #30) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:48 am

*says the person who is scum*

TheDominator37 · Post Post #288 (isolation #31) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 2:58 pm

See makes no sense

TheDominator37 · Post Post #315 (isolation #32) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 12:11 pm

In post 311, duppin wrote:You guys...

Anyway TheDominator, do you have a town read on anyone?

Everyone but nether rad and eventi

TheDominator37 · Post Post #326 (isolation #33) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:10 am

In post 318, All Alone wrote:And now that Newbie 1617 is over I can go into more detail about why I'm sure Dominator is scum here. In that game Dominator was town, and
repeatedly insisted that bandwagon votes with no reason were anti-town
:

Spoiler: Quotes from Newbie 1617
In post 153, TheDominator37 wrote:
In post 150, Willowmeadow wrote:Care to explain? I'm not fully sure about why are you voting Wanderer, even less sure about why Mahonster is triggering your suspicion.

Wanderer vote on me had no reason and was a bandwagon

Mahonster is next on my list because of how quiet he is.

In post 167, TheDominator37 wrote:
In post 164, Wanderer-nl wrote:@Dom: wagons aren't bad, if everyone is smart enough to count votes so they don't derphammer (hammering but not knowing it was already hammer), wagons can give is a great deal of information. Now why exactly do you think Mahonster and me are scum?

I disagree with you on that

Bandwagons are a way to get scum under you attention

Mohonster is suspicious because he is quiet and trying not to draw any attention to himself

In post 171, TheDominator37 wrote:My top 5 suspects list

1. Wanderer: bandwagon and voting without explanation

2. Keychain: Quiet trying to float under thee radar
3. BBT: so intent on lynxhing me without any substaintal proof
4. Willow: same as above a little bit o bandwagoning
5. Yuri: you know why

Now compare that to Dominator's voting patterns and "explanations" in this game. There's no way it can be town here.

bandwagon meta scum anyitown communist conformist deconformist mafia tic tac toe Yahtzee game set match fatality end over blasphemy lies dishonest.
VOTE: qll alone

TheDominator37 · Post Post #327 (isolation #34) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:11 am

In post 321, Netherspite wrote:I think I've got an idea why does
TheDominator37
act that scummy.
Since he is caught scum he is trying to stretch it beyond any recognition to hide his partners in the shadow of his scumminess + to not provide any association tells.

What do ou mean I'm caught

TheDominator37 · Post Post #333 (isolation #35) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 5:29 am

No way nether
VOTE: nether

TheDominator37 · Post Post #334 (isolation #36) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 5:30 am

In post 332, eventi wrote:
In post 293, Netherspite wrote:
In post 292, RadiantCowbells wrote:Dominator basically scumreads everyone as soon as they get a vote.

He's honestly too scummy to be scum.

I don't see the point for the townie to act like him.
Neither for scum.
He looks like a troll or something.

That's the reason scum would act like this... nobody will vote for him

The WIFOM is real

TheDominator37 · Post Post #341 (isolation #37) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:57 am

In post 338, pistachi0n wrote:
In post 298, davesaz wrote:
In post 267, pistachi0n wrote:Also, Alchemist's vote on Duppin was grasping at straws. Maybe he's seeing something I'm not. I looked through his Iso expecting some glaringly obvious statement that he was scum, but the rest was pretty towny. I agree with his analysis on Thesp/RC. What's up with the Duppin vote, Alchemist? Why's he scummier than anyone else in the game?

You said things about several players in this and surrounding posts.
1. Have you been following these players that you were interested in?
2. What are your reads on them?

1. Yes I have
2. Alchemist is my strongest townread, I'm also townreading Nether and RC. Eventi and Dominator are my scum-reads.

Ok
Do you have any ORIGINALS reads

TheDominator37 · Post Post #343 (isolation #38) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:10 am

Yourself thesp and how about nether (hint: scum)

TheDominator37 · Post Post #368 (isolation #39) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:05 am

Ok that was a fun gambit. Found who scum is
Definitely alcamist
And 2 out of the following: thesp, fire, eventi
Nether is obv town

TheDominator37 · Post Post #369 (isolation #40) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:06 am

VOTE: alcamist

TheDominator37 · Post Post #373 (isolation #41) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:42 am

Act like an idiot get reactions and it worked amazing
I still need to look at who soft read me
Eventi and alchemist definitely scum and rc and nether are definitely town

TheDominator37 · Post Post #374 (isolation #42) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 5:19 am

Ok there is 3 days left and I think we need to lunch someone
Although alcamist is my top scum I'm ok with going with my #2
VOTE: eventi

TheDominator37 · Post Post #384 (isolation #43) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:24 am

In post 378, davesaz wrote:@Dom: Thoughts on people who were interested in actually checking your meta?

The reaction test was a calculated move, but being calculated doesn't necessarily indicate town.

I'd say it's useless. This is the first game in trying it

TheDominator37 · Post Post #385 (isolation #44) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:25 am

In post 383, eventi wrote:
In post 373, TheDominator37 wrote:Act like an idiot get reactions and it worked amazing
I still need to look at who soft read me
Eventi and alchemist definitely scum and rc and nether are definitely town

When are you going to stop acting like an idiot?

Ok, for sake of argument, why are alchemists and I scum? Why are rc and nether town? Prove it's a gambit.

Reactions, reads, if you don't believe me look at their ISOs

TheDominator37 · Post Post #386 (isolation #45) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:26 am

In post 382, eventi wrote:
In post 374, TheDominator37 wrote:Ok there is 3 days left and I think we need to lunch someone
Although alcamist is my top scum I'm ok with going with my #2
VOTE: eventi

OMGUS!

Or maybe I don't see an alcamist wagon going anywhere so I'll vote my #2

TheDominator37 · Post Post #387 (isolation #46) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:27 am

In post 376, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 373, TheDominator37 wrote:Act like an idiot get reactions and it worked amazing
I still need to look at who soft read me
Eventi and alchemist definitely scum and rc and nether are definitely town

For future reference, this is called Slayer's Gambit, and people will hate you for it.

Why do people hate it? It catches scum

TheDominator37 · Post Post #391 (isolation #47) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:37 am

In post 388, Firebringer wrote:Why do you always think I am scum Dominator? Seems odd to me lol. I think you are town.

Anyways people say Nether train is bad, yet I see exact same with eventi train. You really think everyone on each train is bad? Someone is on the wrong side. I am thinking its you guys, I trust my judgement

Well you are a scum read.
Idk about the third but ik eventi and alc are scum

TheDominator37 · Post Post #392 (isolation #48) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:38 am

Wouldn't scum want day to go shorter? Dragging day out is null-town

TheDominator37 · Post Post #399 (isolation #49) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:43 am

why do people not buy it? Is the price to high?

TheDominator37 · Post Post #403 (isolation #50) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 11:43 am

so we lynching eventi?

TheDominator37 · Post Post #452 (isolation #51) » Fri Jul 24, 2015 12:43 am

In post 450, RadiantCowbells wrote:Eventi's town.

Let's do Firebringer?

I'd also support Dom just to get a lynch through on someone who isn't Eventi.

Eh I'm not too confident in a fire lynch. And what makes eventi town?

TheDominator37 · Post Post #461 (isolation #52) » Fri Jul 24, 2015 4:04 am

Per just hammer eventi already

TheDominator37 · Post Post #469 (isolation #53) » Fri Jul 24, 2015 4:42 am

In post 463, Netherspite wrote:
@Persivul

I decided that he's just a newbtown for now. May as well change that opinion later.
However, you asked the right question.

@TheDominator37

Elaborate on the results of your gambit please.

I did

TheDominator37 · Post Post #473 (isolation #54) » Fri Jul 24, 2015 4:55 am

Ok lynch eventi Because he is scum and if you still think I am scum you can invest me tonight

TheDominator37 · Post Post #493 (isolation #55) » Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:06 am

Nether you make no sense

TheDominator37 · Post Post #547 (isolation #56) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 4:54 am

Not much more I can contribute :/

TheDominator37 · Post Post #548 (isolation #57) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 5:05 am

Well 1 hour SOMEONE HAMMER EVENTI OT YOU ARE SCUM

TheDominator37 · Post Post #554 (isolation #58) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 5:43 am

Am I at L1 yet?

TheDominator37 · Post Post #581 (isolation #59) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 9:06 am

Knew it just like I said
That now clears thesp's name

TheDominator37 · Post Post #621 (isolation #60) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 10:44 am

ok my third scum spot is.... still undecided
lead runners are per and fire

TheDominator37 · Post Post #643 (isolation #61) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 1:46 am

So I guess I got it wrong twice...
Maybe go the opposite and nether and rc

TheDominator37 · Post Post #644 (isolation #62) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 1:48 am

VOTE: alc for now

TheDominator37 · Post Post #655 (isolation #63) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:45 am

I completely forgot about thesp!
Ill either vote alc or thesp by the end of the day

TheDominator37 · Post Post #660 (isolation #64) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:02 am

In post 658, duppin wrote:
In post 656, Netherspite wrote:
In post 652, duppin wrote:
Because it makes it easier for scum to push a lynch on TheDominator.

It would be pretty easy to push a lynch on him regardless of the NK because of his pretty scummy play D1.

Perhaps, but who would TheDominator be aligned with? Please tell me. Who are his teammates?

My teammates are alc and thesp. We should lunch tgose two

TheDominator37 · Post Post #664 (isolation #65) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:17 am

In post 661, Netherspite wrote:
In post 660, TheDominator37 wrote:
My teammates are alc and thesp. We should lunch tgose two

If they are your teammates and they are scum then you're scum as well? Why shouldn't we lynch you first then?

There is nothing I can do to defend me or attack thesp and alc. I've already accepted my lunch today. If there is anything I can be of service before I leave the town let me know

TheDominator37 · Post Post #694 (isolation #66) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:48 am

Pistachio is slowly moving to #3

TheDominator37 · Post Post #728 (isolation #67) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 11:28 am

I'm just about done with this game
Ima VT btw

TheDominator37 · Post Post #770 (isolation #68) » Thu Jul 30, 2015 2:07 am

In post 767, All Alone wrote:town

Cowbells
Netherspite
Dominator
duppin
Alchemist

Ankamius
pistachi0n
Persivul

davesaz
Thesp

scum

I love it how I'm suddenly town

TheDominator37 · Post Post #777 (isolation #69) » Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:56 am

Yay alc wagon is starting
VOTE: alc

TheDominator37 · Post Post #780 (isolation #70) » Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:19 am

In post 778, Persivul wrote:You were already on him.

Oh I thought I was on thesp. Doesn't matter I guess

TheDominator37 · Post Post #822 (isolation #71) » Fri Jul 31, 2015 6:34 am

I'm not getting the per wagon could someone please explain it to me?

TheDominator37 · Post Post #835 (isolation #72) » Sat Aug 01, 2015 7:18 am

whatever there is nothing left to do you guys dont believe me at all i just want this hame to end
VOTE: ivul (sounds like evil)

TheDominator37 · Post Post #837 (isolation #73) » Sat Aug 01, 2015 7:48 am

im not trolling :/

TheDominator37 · Post Post #840 (isolation #74) » Sat Aug 01, 2015 11:05 am

I'll try to analyze and stuff. I hate being the guy to drop out
VOTE: alc

TheDominator37 · Post Post #858 (isolation #75) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:33 am

V/LA

for another 2 days. Sorry for my inactivity

TheDominator37 · Post Post #859 (isolation #76) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 2:41 am

Alc wagon not going anywhere so I'll vote my #2
VOTE: thesp

L-2!

TheDominator37 · Post Post #860 (isolation #77) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 2:42 am

V/LA

for two days tag didn't work

TheDominator37 · Post Post #870 (isolation #78) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 10:59 am

Omg alc is lurking now
I'm 90% sure he is mafia

TheDominator37 · Post Post #887 (isolation #79) » Tue Aug 04, 2015 2:26 am

In post 885, davesaz wrote:
In post 870, TheDominator37 wrote:Omg alc is lurking now
I'm 90% sure he is mafia

Please clarify what you mean by lurking.

In post 871, Alchemist21 wrote:You haven't given a case on me either beyond the results of your supposed gambit.

Got reads? Please share.

He hadn't posted for 48 hours and then BOOM he was prodded and is active for 10 minutes and goes back to lurking

TheDominator37 · Post Post #891 (isolation #80) » Tue Aug 04, 2015 4:29 am

VOTE: alcemust
Forgot if I voted for him or not

TheDominator37 · Post Post #903 (isolation #81) » Tue Aug 04, 2015 12:58 pm

I beg to differ

TheDominator37 · Post Post #905 (isolation #82) » Tue Aug 04, 2015 2:04 pm

In post 904, pistachi0n wrote:
In post 903, TheDominator37 wrote:I beg to differ

About what and why?

You said alc looked strong on day one. You couldn't be more wromg

TheDominator37 · Post Post #907 (isolation #83) » Tue Aug 04, 2015 2:11 pm

In post 71, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 68, TheDominator37 wrote:@alchemist mind explaining your scum read on fire?

I think Cowbells is right about Fire. He's been pretty dodgy and defensive. I also don't really like the way he backed down from his Cowbells vote because it looked like he just wanted to avoid the trouble.

In post 86, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 85, Netherspite wrote:
@RadiantCowbells

You're town and I'll be against your mislynch.
Lets please focus on scumhunting.

@Alchemist21

If
Firebringer
is scum (you classified it as 'may be') why would
RadiantCowbells
vote him and push him?

Early distancing. I'm wondering how likely it is they could be scum together though. If Firebringer is noobscum, I can easily see bantering with a buddy then backing down before things got too serious, but I don't think noobscum are more likely to dodge a buddy's questions. I'll need to see more from Firebringer to know what to make of him.

In post 78, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 77, RadiantCowbells wrote:
Suppose Firebringer flips Town. What do you make of Thesp's post in that case?

Still bad for trying to shove us back in RVS.

So you're going to scumread thesp regardless of Firebringer's flip.

Why is All Alone's vote bad?

Because it's a naked vote onto one of my other scumreads right after I FoSed one of the scum.

You are aware scum very frequently RVS each other, yes?

What? It's bad because he voted Thesp after you voted Firebringer? That's crappy reasoning.
Also, someone actually looked into games a while back and found scum don't often RVS each other. The site meta may have shifted a bit because of that thread, but it's certainly not common enough to automatically assume that if someone flips scum their RVS vote is their partner.

VOTE: RadiantCowbells

Firebringer may still be scum, but Cowbells is trying unnaturally hard to paint Thesp as scummy no matter what, and her logic is reachy as hell.

In post 221, Alchemist21 wrote:@Dominator, care to explain your scumreads?

I may have been scumreading RC partly for playstyle. There are still parts of her early play that don't add up, and I still have a mild scumread on the slot, but I want to engage some other players for a while.

VOTE: Duppin

Where is this guy?

In post 335, Alchemist21 wrote:After re-reading ISO's, both Duppin and RC are null for me. Duppin looks like he's going to pick up his activity and lay out his thoughts more, so he should be easier to read as the game progresses. I actually understand some of RC's latest posts, and the more I look over their early play the more I think I misread them for playstyle.

VOTE: Netherspite
The way he's defending RC and pushing Eventi is scummy to me. I normally wouldn't think much of a player defending 1 slot and attacking another, but he's misrepped a couple of times so I'm suspecting scum shennanigans on his part.

I could also vote PMysterious. They voted Eventi for pressure, then later they unvoted without voting another slot, but maintained the eventi and dominator scumreads. That read as trying to softpush the slots while staying off the lynches in my opinion.

I also noticed Pistachion's only vote this whole game was his RVS vote.

@pistachion, could you explain why you haven't made a serious vote?

In post 634, Alchemist21 wrote:VOTE: Dominator

When people claim a Slayer's gambit you can see a shift in their play after they reveal they were gambiting. There's no such shift in Dom's ISO, so I'm comfortable putting a vote here.

Through his fist 30 posts this is all the scum hunting he did
Comparable to now

TheDominator37 · Post Post #908 (isolation #84) » Tue Aug 04, 2015 2:11 pm

Do spoilers not work on this site?

TheDominator37 · Post Post #928 (isolation #85) » Wed Aug 05, 2015 3:21 am

V/LA over

TheDominator37 · Post Post #931 (isolation #86) » Wed Aug 05, 2015 4:19 am

so all alone the basis of your argument is that alc is to ignorant to be scum?

TheDominator37 · Post Post #942 (isolation #87) » Wed Aug 05, 2015 6:56 am

In post 914, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 907, TheDominator37 wrote:
In post 71, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 68, TheDominator37 wrote:@alchemist mind explaining your scum read on fire?

I think Cowbells is right about Fire. He's been pretty dodgy and defensive. I also don't really like the way he backed down from his Cowbells vote because it looked like he just wanted to avoid the trouble.

In post 86, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 85, Netherspite wrote:
@RadiantCowbells

You're town and I'll be against your mislynch.
Lets please focus on scumhunting.

@Alchemist21

If
Firebringer
is scum (you classified it as 'may be') why would
RadiantCowbells
vote him and push him?

Early distancing. I'm wondering how likely it is they could be scum together though. If Firebringer is noobscum, I can easily see bantering with a buddy then backing down before things got too serious, but I don't think noobscum are more likely to dodge a buddy's questions. I'll need to see more from Firebringer to know what to make of him.

In post 78, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 77, RadiantCowbells wrote:
Suppose Firebringer flips Town. What do you make of Thesp's post in that case?

Still bad for trying to shove us back in RVS.

So you're going to scumread thesp regardless of Firebringer's flip.

Why is All Alone's vote bad?

Because it's a naked vote onto one of my other scumreads right after I FoSed one of the scum.

You are aware scum very frequently RVS each other, yes?

What? It's bad because he voted Thesp after you voted Firebringer? That's crappy reasoning.
Also, someone actually looked into games a while back and found scum don't often RVS each other. The site meta may have shifted a bit because of that thread, but it's certainly not common enough to automatically assume that if someone flips scum their RVS vote is their partner.

VOTE: RadiantCowbells

Firebringer may still be scum, but Cowbells is trying unnaturally hard to paint Thesp as scummy no matter what, and her logic is reachy as hell.

In post 221, Alchemist21 wrote:@Dominator, care to explain your scumreads?

I may have been scumreading RC partly for playstyle. There are still parts of her early play that don't add up, and I still have a mild scumread on the slot, but I want to engage some other players for a while.

VOTE: Duppin

Where is this guy?

In post 335, Alchemist21 wrote:After re-reading ISO's, both Duppin and RC are null for me. Duppin looks like he's going to pick up his activity and lay out his thoughts more, so he should be easier to read as the game progresses. I actually understand some of RC's latest posts, and the more I look over their early play the more I think I misread them for playstyle.

VOTE: Netherspite
The way he's defending RC and pushing Eventi is scummy to me. I normally wouldn't think much of a player defending 1 slot and attacking another, but he's misrepped a couple of times so I'm suspecting scum shennanigans on his part.

I could also vote PMysterious. They voted Eventi for pressure, then later they unvoted without voting another slot, but maintained the eventi and dominator scumreads. That read as trying to softpush the slots while staying off the lynches in my opinion.

I also noticed Pistachion's only vote this whole game was his RVS vote.

@pistachion, could you explain why you haven't made a serious vote?

In post 634, Alchemist21 wrote:VOTE: Dominator

When people claim a Slayer's gambit you can see a shift in their play after they reveal they were gambiting. There's no such shift in Dom's ISO, so I'm comfortable putting a vote here.

Through his fist 30 posts this is all the scum hunting he did
Comparable to now

Here's a fun little game. Go through your own ISO and do the same thing.

And I had my reasons for that
What are yours?

TheDominator37 · Post Post #943 (isolation #88) » Wed Aug 05, 2015 6:58 am

Ugh I don't know whether to vote alchemist or these :/

TheDominator37 · Post Post #944 (isolation #89) » Wed Aug 05, 2015 7:58 am

Yeah alch wagon going no where
VOTE: thesp

TheDominator37 · Post Post #947 (isolation #90) » Wed Aug 05, 2015 9:55 am

Hint: alchemis

TheDominator37 · Post Post #949 (isolation #91) » Wed Aug 05, 2015 11:17 am

Your push on me and eventi's lynch. And I think ivul is town tbh

TheDominator37 · Post Post #954 (isolation #92) » Wed Aug 05, 2015 12:36 pm

In post 951, davesaz wrote:
In post 949, TheDominator37 wrote:Your push on me and eventi's lynch. And I think ivul is town tbh

You think who is town? The typo (??) is making it hard to identify.

Ivul is town

TheDominator37 · Post Post #964 (isolation #93) » Wed Aug 05, 2015 4:39 pm

In post 957, davesaz wrote:
In post 954, TheDominator37 wrote:
In post 951, davesaz wrote:
In post 949, TheDominator37 wrote:Your push on me and eventi's lynch. And I think ivul is town tbh

You think who is town? The typo (??) is making it hard to identify.

Ivul is town

Now you're doing it deliberately. Abbreviating from the beginning of a name or initials works pretty well, but taking the last part of a name? Are you trying to be difficult to read? Should we be referring to you as tor, or nator? How about esp or mist or saz as abbreviations. If this game were advertised as bastard I might think you're a jester. Actually your behavior suggests another more normal role too, but I won't help scum out by saying more. I will say that I hope for town's sake that if you are town that your scum reads are accurate. Which is what we all hope for of course, but still....

I like to be creative.

TheDominator37 · Post Post #975 (isolation #94) » Thu Aug 06, 2015 5:19 am

In post 974, Thesp wrote:
In post 954, TheDominator37 wrote:
In post 951, davesaz wrote:
In post 949, TheDominator37 wrote:Your push on me and eventi's lynch. And I think ivul is town tbh

You think who is town? The typo (??) is making it hard to identify.

Ivul is town

Being deliberately obtuse is neither cute nor funny (nor creative) - it's obnoxious and anti-town. Cut it out.

In post 971, All Alone wrote:
In post 940, Thesp wrote:

In post 776, Thesp wrote:
All Alone
, I don't get the feeling you're trying hard in this game, do you have the same feeling about yourself? (I don't mean this as an insult, honest.)

All Alone
, I missed your answer to this question, do you mind responding?

I pushed Dominator hard for most of D1, and you today, and in both cases the wagon grew as I pushed them. What exactly do I need to be trying harder at?

This is not the response I expected, and I'm incredibly uncomfortable with it.

I'm seeing the vote count look like this:

Thesp
(4): All Alone, Persivul, davesaz, TheDominator37

Persivul
(3): pistachi0n, Ankamius, Thesp

All Alone
(1): Alchemist21

davesaz
(1): RadiantCowbells

Not Voting
(2): Netherspite, duppin

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline
: (expired on 2015-08-10 18:30:00)

I'd really like to see some movement from Alchemist21, RadiantCowbells, Netherspite, and duppin. We've
got
to move, not a lot of time left.

says scum

TheDominator37 · Post Post #979 (isolation #95) » Thu Aug 06, 2015 6:08 am

In post 976, Thesp wrote:
In post 975, TheDominator37 wrote:
In post 974, Thesp wrote:*snip*
says scum

Oh how I wish I didn't think you were town.

Why because I would an easy lynch O_o

TheDominator37 · Post Post #981 (isolation #96) » Thu Aug 06, 2015 6:31 am

What if me and duppin are scum buds

TheDominator37 · Post Post #997 (isolation #97) » Fri Aug 07, 2015 5:17 am

nether i suggest you figure out where to put your vote soon

TheDominator37 · Post Post #1001 (isolation #98) » Fri Aug 07, 2015 6:43 am

TheDominator37 · Post Post #1005 (isolation #99) » Fri Aug 07, 2015 8:53 am

If thesp flips town a persivul alc rc team is plausible

TheDominator37 · Fri Aug 07, 2015 11:27 am

Productive backstabbing would work

TheDominator37 · Fri Aug 07, 2015 2:05 pm

No faction kill your bud

TheDominator37 · Sun Aug 09, 2015 3:20 am

In post 1014, All Alone wrote:I'll vote Persivul slot if needed to lynch but I'd much rather lynch Thesp.

I couldn't agree more

TheDominator37 · Sun Aug 09, 2015 7:55 am

The push on eventi, trying to push on me and then acting like that was nothing

TheDominator37 · Sun Aug 09, 2015 10:30 am

Spoiler: this is why thesp is scum

In post 222, Thesp wrote:Sorry for my absence today, I've been sick.

In post 184, eventi wrote:Are you saying that I'm willfully
ignoring
something in my argument; that I'm being intentionally misleading?

When there have been a few pages of material, and the
only
thing posted by a player jumping in is a case and vote on the leading wagon, it gives me pause.

I'm thinking TheDominator37 is scum. I don't like #210.

In post 193, Quaroath wrote:Meh. I think RC is tryhard town. She's NOT worth lynching right now simply because she is movign the game. She'll catch herself up later on in the game if shes scum.

She's not a good D1 lynch at all.

That said, I don't look for buddy combo's day one. I don't think it's worth exploration before the first flip. I'm aware that's not common, but trying to tie people together D1 has consistently in the post caused me to make major mistakes and I've lost town games simply by doing that.

Mostly because I'm aware I can be manipulated later on if I start talking about my tie-ins early.

I agree SO MUCH with this post, save the bit about not finding buddies D1.

In post 198, RadiantCowbells wrote:I like the Eventi wagon.

:hifive:

In post 221, Alchemist21 wrote:...but I want to engage some other players for a while.

VOTE: Duppin

Where is this guy?

I approve of this! At the same time, it feels like you're looking for a way off the RadiantCowbells wagon in a discreet way. Why vote Duppin over Sword Master?

Current favorites for scum: Eventis, TheDominator37, Sword Master. Alchemist21 gets an Honorable Mention.

In post 259, Thesp wrote:davesaz, thanks for immediate posts!

UNVOTE: davesaz

In post 258, PMysterious wrote:Whoa now, gotta let down a little. This could ruin any chance of any more D1 talk. Slow the votes guys, and let's see if we can find his partners.

There's been practically nothing from you this whole game. Do you still think eventi and TheDominator37 are best bets for scum?

In post 223, duppin wrote:As previously stated I believe that was a scum train, so I'd like to look at the people who voted on her. (Alchemist, Firebringer, eventi and TheDominator.
In post 223, duppin wrote:Anyway, I have Alchemist and RC as town and Firebringer is leaning town.

Why do you have Alchemist and Firebringer in the town column?

In post 223, duppin wrote:
In post 210, TheDominator37 wrote:Nether and eventi are looking like scum buddies VOTE: nether

He calls out eventi, the other person I find suspicious. I am not sure I like the vote on Nether though, I would have prefered if we had voted on eventi.

I agree with this.

In post 243, Netherspite wrote:
In post 241, All Alone wrote:
I think this is a legitimate town-slip from Firebringer.

I don't think he really meant that there are exactly TWO scum in the game.
He just meant that both of us could be scum in his opinion.

Firebringer, is this accurate?

Updated favorites for scum: eventi, TheDominator37, PMysterious.

VOTE: eventi

I'm equally happy with a TheDominator37 lynch. I typically have little tolerance for self-votes.

In post 283, Thesp wrote:
In post 261, davesaz wrote:I'm all caught up, now I need to think about it a bit.
Off the top of my head I'm getting scum vibes that match with Thesp's really well.

:hifive:

In post 274, PMysterious wrote:
In post 237, Firebringer wrote:So PMysterious you have any reads? This feels like your first post in the game. I had to actually look back and see that you were in the game.

Been very lurking this game.

So far I think Nether and Raidant are most likely scum or at least one. If only one then I have no clue on the other. Perhaps dupin.

Anyways going to V/LA till Sunday. Will try to post 1 or 2 times till then, but no promises.

I'm certain Dominator is scum, but like I said, lynching him too early will cause less time for day talk. As for eventi, I'm certain he/she is probably scum too, but odds are probably not exactly the smartest of townies. For now, I'm certain there's nothing coming out of eventi, so I'll lay back on that.

UNVOTE:

Third scum confirmed!

So, here's the plan.
1. Today, we lynch eventi.
2. Tomorrow, we lynch TheDominator37.
3. On D3, we lynch PMysterious.

That's the end of the plan, because by then we will have won. I'm open to discussing changing the order on these, but I'm pretty happy with killing all of them.

In post 330, Thesp wrote:I haven't seen anything terribly compelling this weekend, other than I wouldn't mind if Firebringer died, and I like All Alone's case on TheDominator37.

eventi's wagon seems to have nearly dissipated, so...

UNVOTE: eventi
VOTE: TheDominator37

I'm still happy lynching either one, or even PMysterious. I'd like to see us move towards a lynch or at least real threat-to-lynch very soon, so we're not forced by a deadline. Remember, if we hit deadline without a lynch, it's a no-lynch, which is one fewer opportunity for us in this setup, and something scum would love. We've got plenty to work on, there's no reason we couldn't do a lynch several days before our deadline. Let's move, people.

TheDominator37 · Sun Aug 09, 2015 4:18 pm

Double hint: they aren't

TheDominator37 · Sun Aug 09, 2015 5:12 pm

Triple Hint: alchemist is scum

TheDominator37 · Mon Aug 10, 2015 7:13 am

TheDominator37 · Mon Aug 10, 2015 9:26 am

VOTE: mafia

L-1

TheDominator37 · Thu Aug 13, 2015 8:32 am

VOTE: thesp

TheDominator37 · Thu Aug 13, 2015 10:38 am

VOTE: alcemist