Mini Normal 1707 - Frog Mafia! - GAME OVER - TOWN WIN!

[Scorpious]

In for Ciara,not too much,so I should be able to catch up fairly quick..

[Scorpious]

I guess I'm caught up

That's a shitload of Zakk..wow

Addressing the most recent event. I don't think voting nos is the right lynch for today. Does it really give us that much info? Is nailing scum on D1 ever that easy?

And why is it when people mention school it's always AP or honors classes. Nobody ever says. I got a lot of Votech work to do to complete my G.E.D?

Depending on the game I'll keep reads close to my chest, but sonic tends to annoy me because he's overly fluffy as town and sometimes lately serious as scum. Im findin him funny and fluffy which makes me town read him tbh.

I tend to ignore questions because I either don't see them or I can't explain my gut.

I hate these comments. I don;t like

any

attempts at justification for not answering questions.

QUICK LYNCH HIM BEFORE FROG GETS A REPLACEMENT.

I don't like this at all,again. What do we learn from lynching someone that was hardly active and went corn flake?

okay guys. i re-read the thread and went through everything meticulously.

Shiro is town.
AxleGreaser is town.
notscience is scum.
Metal Sonic is scum.
BlueBloodedToffee is town.
singersigner is town.

Lynch accordingly.

I don't know if there is mafia slang word for trying to direct,but that coupled with this list bothers me.. Thank you Zakk,Once I read this post I was like,that was it..that was the post that told me all i needed to know.. :/

then changing the nos vote in back 2 back posts looks weird two,Did he think better of looking opportunistic?

I think Mala,and Zakk are scum,Singer not so much,that post bothered me but she has gotten better imo. She also seems genuinley excited to make a case she feels strong about. I like that

BBT-looks like clueless town
Notscience-looks like confident town
Axlegreaser- weird way of speaking..almost hard to follow.. town nonetheless

Null on:
Metal Sonic
shaddowez
Veegee
Shiro

[Scorpious]

@Scorpious...what do you think of Nos himself? Why would you prioritize information over scum?

I don't read it as scum,I read it as a young kid that had no plans on committing to a game.. obviously lynching scum is priority. I never said I would prioritize info over scum. I don't think he is scum

[Scorpious]

I don't read it as scum,I read it as a young kid that had no plans on committing to a game.. obviously lynching scum is priority. I never said I would prioritize info over scum. I don't think he is scum

This lands in the middle of my read. Same answer same reasons.

This doesn't

BBT-looks like clueless town

have you played with (read) BBT before?
I am pretty sure i haven't, but i read several games.
For BBT to limbo under Clueless town bar, you have to have set the clue bar pretty high and lots of people (majority?) are going to be clueless.

fair enough,I just gave my initial reads. I dont know anyone,nor have I read up on anyone. I know that isn't the case now. Thank you for correcting me..

do you agree/disagree with any of my other early reads?

[Scorpious]

skimmed.

sooooo much meta... *sigh*

at work, so plenty of time to catch up properly and post,any questions welcomed..

[Scorpious]

Well I didn't like Zakk at all in my initial read.. looks like my slot had him already voted. I'm going to keep my vote there.

Nothing to do with meta,I'm not experienced enough to know what to do with it.. lol

[Scorpious]

Zakk, Do you have intentions of joining the max wagon? He

is

higher on your to-lynch list than Mala..

in fact,Mala is #4.. I doubt there are 4 scum.. Why vote her over your top 3?

[Scorpious]

Can you explain what made you think I was clueless town?

The block of 163,172,and 176 where you were like " I voted,whos with me" was what made me think that,but after it being pointed out and me re-reading stuff I realize my initial read was terrible..Still have you as town though..

[Scorpious]

Hey, Scorpious is restating other people's arguments.

who made this argument?

It was.briefly mentioned in 345,and I do mean briefly. Please tell me who else made this argument..

[Scorpious]

Thats weird. Mala is 4th 321

This is an argument?

[Scorpious]

Scorpious, the argument was made. You just restated what Axle had already pointed out.

Bullshit..

If that's the case,why are you not more concerned about Zakk avoiding this alleged argument?

So what if he pointed it out.. I asked a question.. He didn't

[Scorpious]

It's not bullshit Scorpious. You clearly just restated an argument - it's right there in black and white. I'm not talking about it any more.

ok fine,then explain why you awere ok with Zakk avoiding Axle's "argument" up until the point he did.

and

How do you feel about his answer that it was for reactions?

[Scorpious]

Yeah, Scorpious is also scum.

Funny, considering there are still unanswered questions from me to you..

[Scorpious]

So you're just going to ignore my questions BBT?

You put a weak ass case on me..Don't answer my questions,and I'm scum.. ok dude..

[Scorpious]

Well if you weren't none existant opinions might change.

what are you talking about?

[Scorpious]

you're saying you didn't notice I was here and that's my fault?

I replaced in.. Skimming much?

[Scorpious]

@Shiro,Can you please show me where you have your own case on Vegee,and not just sheeping BBT?

[Scorpious]

Just that you haven't done anything of relevance at all to make your presence noticed.

I'm not even entertaining this nonsense.. READ the thread.. I've questioned your boy and am still waiting for his response.

[Scorpious]

UNVOTE: Zakk

[Scorpious]

@Axle, I have not stated any views on Max,The only time I even said his name was when I was asking Zakk if he had plans to hop on the Wagon. I didn't find this slot scummy with his,and I really don't find it scummy now. Comes off to me as someone trying to "prove" not "convince us he is town. I will not be a part of that wagon today.

Right now I read Zakk,Mala,Shiro as my top 3..

I'm not "stealing arguments"(because this one actually was),but I agree with Singers comments on Mala's genericism. I've also taken Singer off my top 3 for Shiro.

I dont like shiros buddying with BBT and then focusing on me like he did yesterday. I read BBT as town and suspect Shiro is trying to associate her behavior with his..

Going with Shiro,for now. Maybe drum up some responses. There really is no wagon for any of my scums right now,I would support a lynch on
of my scums today..
VOTE: Shiro

[Scorpious]

I was going to try to post content instead of prod dodge, but I've missed 9 days of content, sooo....

I'll be back Sunday night, with a day and a half until deadline. If anyone directs anything to me between now and then, I'll be sure to answer it first thing when I get back on.

I'm not feeling this at all.

9 days of content to catch up on? Even if that was true you have been active well within that time frame..

I'm just left very confused by this one..

[Scorpious]

I'd be fine with either. That's balls to be the second least frequent poster to call v/la until a day and a half before dl. What leads us to believe that there will be more posting then..

[Scorpious]

I would support a mala lynch..

[Scorpious]

ika - On the fence about
Metal Sonic - scum
shaddowez - maaaaybe scum
AxleGreaser - I think town
BlueBloodedToffee Dizzle - pretty sure he's town
Shiro - maybe town?
Scorpious Ciara24 - could be scum (scum reading me after a few people have expressed interest to lynch me feels scummy af)
notscience - town
zakk satsujin - IDK I'm on and off about this slot.
MaxwellPuckett Nosferatu - Maybe scum? I'm trusting singer on this tbh
VeeGee - IDK
singersigner - I think town?

This is one of the most non-commital read lists I have ever seen.

Also,saying that I only expressed interest in you after others is false. I expressed interest in you in my first post in this game.

So according to your list,the only thing you are "sure" of is that notscience is town?

[Scorpious]

VOTE: Shiro

[Scorpious]

yes I voted for Shiro. I think it's scum and I've explained why.

I also think Mala,is scum(also explained) and I'm over this "f this" "f you" attitude.. It's just grating and tiresome to look at..

I would also support a Mala lynch.

[Scorpious]

Good because right now it will be zakk or me because I'm sick of his play at me so far.

I'll give you that..but I also think he's scum fwiw..

[Scorpious]

Nah tbh I think he thinks it is you or zakk with me

If this is to me,yes. I think Mala and Shiro are scum,my scum read on Zakk is wavering. That third spot is being vyed for at the moment. I want to observe a few to begin this day..

[Scorpious]

@Shiro,Can you provide us reads based on this game and this game alone? Without using any meta?

What is your opinion of Zakk in THIS GAME?

[Scorpious]

@Metal Sonic

can you elaborate a little?

[Scorpious]

Uber Town

Singer-lalala
BBT-extra bacon

2nd string

notscience-could be science
ika-my grandma told your grandma
Axl-patience

friend zone

shaddowez-5 o clock?

stinks a little

VeeGee- Geez Vee
Metal Sonic-new toothbrush
Zakk-awesome cell phone Morris

Whale from hell,I stab at thee

Mala-a bad Malaf*cker
Shiro-that's what Shiro said..

If you are not completely satisfied,please return the unused portion of the product for a full refund..

Would you like to know more?

[Scorpious]

I like your scum hunting. I think your targets are off,but I don't base reads on being correct, I base them on effort.

[Scorpious]

Like, why is my effort town effort and not scum effort?

I'm surprised I haven't come under heavy fire Today - I was town reading the shit out of Maxwell when he got lynched.

So was I. we both read Max as town

[Scorpious]

You strike me as town. You don't seem to have any more knowledge than you should. your questions seem to be coming from a place where you genuinely do not have anything else other than what you have read here.

I always try to look for people that seem to know a little more than a townie should.

[Scorpious]

first off,it was the explanation of why one would not answer questions.. I do not like that at all,ever.

I'm also not a fan of the "We aren't lynching me" comments.. Anyone that says things like that always seems to flip scum.

like I mentioned I really wasn't feeling the "f you,f this,you are f'n stupid" attitude

also in 622 she talks about lynching Sonic on the next day,then in 655 posts a comment about lining up lynches.(sonic tomorrow) I always see inconsistency as scummy behavior..

[Scorpious]

BBT-Do you feel that anyone's behavior has changed since the encryptor flip?

[Scorpious]

scum has called me a better lynch than a lurker

can you direct me to this post?

[Scorpious]

Thank you Mala, you have given me something to chew on..

@Singer,that's fair. I've just seen it trend to other way..

[Scorpious]

Thoughts on the game Scorpious?

I leave work in 10 minutes.. Can it wait a couple hours?

[Scorpious]

Thoughts on the game Scorpious?

Well,It's the first time I've ever replaced in so that in itself was a new experience. I came in right as nosfaratu was losing it. I didn't think that was motivated by being scum,maybe it wasn't,maybe it was just coincidence. I also did not read scum on Max. I was wrong. I'm really surprised I have not encountered more questions about that. My answer is I was wrong,just like most everyone on D-1's.

My initial reads haven't changed all that much because I'm still learning how to hunt.Although there has been some movement in my list. I'm still learning what constitutes "Scummy" behavior. I think it's important to acknowledge anyone who might be acting differently. I read about the encryptor role so there was at least one person interacting with Max.That's what I've been looking for in D-2. I'm a perfect target for any of the vets around here to say "Oh no,that's not right.In Game X,So and so,did this and was town,so you are wrong."Or the other way around.So I find myself being on the lookout for anything like that.

I like being engaged with questions,I'm not looking for a crutch,but it gives me a springboard to understand what questions are effective and which are wastes of space.

I know it sounds dumb,but I find myself creating less interesting posts because I'm still learning the nuances of the quoting system and what not.Like I said I enjoy answering questions,it's a fun part of all this for me,so fire away.. I hope this is what you meant by "thoughts". I would assume you weren't just asking for another list of reads.

[Scorpious]

It's much better if you lynch town on Day 1 and/or 2 because then you get WAY more info for nailing scum as a team

please explain this a little more. The idiot in me is confused. Are you saying you would rather lynch town on D1 and maybe 2 for endgame purposes? Why would you EVER want to lynch town if you are in fact; town.

[Scorpious]

I just can't get over that damn post..
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Zakk

[Scorpious]

It's just a stupid thing to say..And I feel I'm even more stupid if I let it go,or be swayed by some sort of explanation,then find out he flips scum.. The guy said he thinks it's good for town to lynch town.. no, no, no, no,... no.. My vote will remain here.. Thank you

pedit-don't worry Shiro. I still think you are scum too..

[Scorpious]

Apathy is awesome. Hope you're singing this in my sing songy voice. Because lalala lala lalala.

Sorry having another bad week and only really skimming. I will still lynch from my pool of five (four?) of people decide on one of them.

@mod...V/LA 8/31-9/3.

All hail Queen Singer!

I will hold the palace until your return, your highness!

Smooth winds and safe trip!

sidenote..

This is fucking annoying..that is all

[Scorpious]

Going to vote Zakk,Mala?

[Scorpious]

VOTE: Scorpious

awesome.. may I ask why?

[Scorpious]

You can start by answering one of my recent questions?

I have been more than responsive to all your questions. I say you owe me this one..

As far as movement on my list,nothing really significant. I've recently given my scum reads,Zakk and Shiro are my top 2,with a sprinkle of Mala. I'm trying to figure out if Mala's abrasiveness is just annoying me. That doesn't necessarily make her scum though. IDK.. still on the fence

[Scorpious]

You said there was movement in your list - if it was nothing significant then why mention it? It's a very generic 'Hey, look at me, my reads are changing because of the new information provided' but what you post doesn't actually say anything specific or tell us where you're at in the game.

Why do you think Zakk is scum? I mean, if your whole reasoning boils down to that one post (which isn't scummy) then it's pretty weak.

I'm not going to spell out every answer for you bro while you pile on more everytime I respond..

I thought Zakk was scum way before that post..Go pester someone else. You voted me already. So. I'm taking a break from your inquisition for a bit..

[Scorpious]

Dammit Shiro. Stop making me like you.. You're scum lol

[Scorpious]

BBT- are you going to tell us why you voted me?

All you did was ask me another question after I asked mine and answered yours.

[Scorpious]

Oh, I might do later.

Why would you say this as town? How does it help us?

[Scorpious]

Fair enough.. I

think

I know what you are doing..

[Scorpious]

[Scorpious]

I'd like to know what I did too tbh.. All I see is my scum vote voting me for reason x..

if this wagon picks up at all with no explanation,I have no idea what to say to that..

Zakk likes lynching town apparently anyway..

[Scorpious]

Catching up now,been a bit since we got q VC,no?

[Scorpious]

I know I'm not going to die

How?

[Scorpious]

VOTE: BBT

Unless you can explain to me why town would act like this(I am still kinda new) I'm going this way..

[Scorpious]

but what you post doesn't actually say anything specific or tell us where you're at in the game.

sounds a little familiar..

[Scorpious]

Shiro, are you going to claim?

[Scorpious]

Anything else to contribute bbt?

aside from terrible play,and tunnel a townie,you have done jack shit..

I hope you get your wagon so everyone in this game realizes how clueless you are..

[Scorpious]

this game... lol

Shiro, you're at L-1.. it's a legitimate question.

BBT- you're just a moron..

[Scorpious]

Also, not long ago you were pretty sure I was town. What happened?

you ask questions but don't answer any directed at you. That's what happened

[Scorpious]

I don't answer to scum.

LOL!!!

pathetic.. ok dude

[Scorpious]

yes I voted for Shiro. I think it's scum and I've explained why.

I also think Mala,is scum(also explained) and I'm over this "f this" "f you" attitude.. It's just grating and tiresome to look at..

I would also support a Mala lynch.

[Scorpious]

I've had a scum read on zakk almost all game. I would support that as well..

[Scorpious]

BBT-are you still interested in a wagon on me?

[Scorpious]

BBT- you are so off man,you really need to go back and re-read with an open mind..

[Scorpious]

That's ok man,at this point,you being wrong on something you are sure about is satisfying enough for me..

[Scorpious]

Are we mass claiming or not?

[Scorpious]

I think ether BBT,Zakk,and at this point to a lesser extent Mala..

I'd be very happy with BBT or Zakk.

[Scorpious]

It's funny that you think I'm scum.

I can say the exact same thing about you,but IDK if "funny" is the word I would use..

[Scorpious]

Can we not fucking lynch me?

nah..

VOTE: BBT

[Scorpious]

VOTE: Zakk

[Scorpious]

If a Mala wagon forms, That would be my alternate. It's either these two for me

[Scorpious]

I feel good about my choices.. I know I'm town,and I'm sure one of those two know it too.. If not both..

[Scorpious]

Yeah we aren't lynching me. >.>

Yes I jailed scorpi

What did jailing me accomplish?

[Scorpious]

I'm sorry. So Mala is telling everyone she prevented me from klling? Is this correct?

[Scorpious]

Just in case I wake up at L1,with an intent and can't do anything because of work like things.

I'm just a plain ol' VT.. Lynch accordingly

[Scorpious]

remaining scum is Zakk or Mala. It's not rocket science..

[Scorpious]

i was just about to vote scorp because that is undeniably the proper play for today unless you have more information

I gave you more information. Explain why lynching a VT is the "proper play"

[Scorpious]

So, how about today, we lynch either Scorpious or Mala. I think Scorp is scummier but I will go with Mala if that's the majority. If who it is flips town, we lynch the other one tomorrow.

I'm totally ok with this,but when I flip town you vote Zakk next..

its one of those two if not both.. Plus I haaaate the "pfft,yeah right i'm getting lynched" style of defending ones self.

UNVOTE: Zakk
VOTE: Mala

[Scorpious]

Mama is lying.

jailing me last night would have been pointless,it prevented nothing. Unless I'm just an idiot. Jailing a VT does not prevent NK's..

[Scorpious]

Ugh..Mala(mama lol)

[Scorpious]

Nope, notscience I was just wrong on BBT,and I'll admit there was a little bit of "f*** off" in my push on him. I did though think he was scum. Trying to make me a mislynch.. You're giving me too much credit,I wouldn't be confident enough to fake that..

[Scorpious]

Just so I'm clear. I believe Mala and/or Zakk are remaining scum. I will only vote one of them. Everyone else is town to me..

[Scorpious]

^^^^
That's impressive.. Too bad its false..

[Scorpious]

Well,I'm assuming zakk is smart enough to realize that if I get lynched,then it(should be) is open season on him,so I'm comfortable with my mama vote..

[Scorpious]

^^^^
That's impressive.. Too bad its false..

If its impressive why would you not kill Mala N2 and instead leave it to a "last ditch" hail mary?

the scum plan is this one

do you think it's even REMOTELY possible that scum is no-killing to make you look bad (hint: you look bad)

sarcasm dude..

[Scorpious]

please provide details for your statement.

He was not involved in lynching Maxwell or Shiro. Zakk didn't lynch Maxwell but did lynch Shiro. Both lynched BBT. Granted it's not much. I also picked up on associative tells between Maxwell and Scorp on day 1.

This is actually wrong.. I was one of the first to suspect Shiro

[Scorpious]

Can we just HVE a masclaim? Please and thanks.

second time you've asked for this..

Why?

[Scorpious]

I still disagree, I feel it would help the remaining scum.. Like,who to take out tonight.. And its not like the scum is going to tell the truth anyway.. Obviously I've already claimed,but I don't think its necessary right now..

[Scorpious]

i always get the heebie jeebies when someone volunteers to make tables and uses lots of fancy code to try to prove their worth in a mafia game

i want mala dead if we don't lynch scum today.

it's actually quite useful..

[Scorpious]

Its not me..

but its cool. Maybe learning that guarantees us the win..

lynch accordingly

[Scorpious]

I like that Zakk..

but lets try simple,and,umm..reality.

lynching me will only confirm me as town.. Trust me,you don't want that..

[Scorpious]

Lynch me then. I dont care about it if it means we can win

[Scorpious]

Like I said.. I'm VT

I'm 90% sure the last scum is mala or zakk, I've read them that way since my first post in this game.

I'm not going to spend my weekend trying to placate anyone. My vote is staying on mala.

this is probably all you'll get from me this weekend.

so,I'll say it again. Lynch accordingly

[Scorpious]

VOTE: Zakk

[Scorpious]

lol...

this game..

[Scorpious]

VOTE: Mala