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In post 19, Zoronos wrote:VOTE: Zulfy
So, what made you change your vote immediately from one post to the next?
1. Wanted the wagon.
2. Curious to see who would call me out on it. Now I get to ask: What'd ya do that for?
In post 21, Keyser Söze wrote:
Do not fear Lady M, the non-diacritic 'ö' can be converted to 'oe' (Keyser Soeze).
Isn't it a Turkish name? I thought umlauts only worked like that in German.
In post 22, RadiantCowbells wrote:That font is incredibly annoying and I want to lynch you posthaste.
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In post 29, Keyser Söze wrote:What, you actually searched MafiaWiki for the definition? How cute.
I think you will find that trying to lynch someone based purely on what font they use is "bad town" and harmful to town.
Which obviously makes him town!
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Y'all serious? You all actually think that Iforgot my own vote?
Unvoted the RV and voted my scumping.
In post 41, Frozen Angel wrote:RC's vote can simply be considered as a spam vote. But I can't read zulfy's vote ... its slightly scum leaning ...
Elaborate
In post 46, Elyse wrote:
I don't buy this from Zulfy. If he really did want the wagon, then I find it highly unlikely he would forget (after a few posts) that he was already voting for RC. Plus, his second vote doesn't make sense.
VOTE: Zulfy
In post 47, Zoronos wrote:VOTE: Frozen Angel I like this better, but explaining why is hard. Frozen's language feels like she's keeping herself at arm's length from her reasoning. RC's vote 'can simply be considered a spam vote' -> Sure, you can consider it, but is it?
Says Zulfy's vote on RC is scummy, doesn't vote Zulfy (and is voting with Zulfy).
idk. Bad gut vibes!
I agree completely! Now answer my question, please.
In post 49, Mathilda wrote:In post 23, Zulfy wrote:In post 19, Zoronos wrote:VOTE: Zulfy
So, what made you change your vote immediately from one post to the next?
1. Wanted the wagon.
2. Curious to see who would call me out on it. Now I get to ask: What'd ya do that for?
That suggests to me that both you and Zulfy are playing pro-town, and you at least are more likely to be town (which isn't saying much at this point in the game when there is no information to go). Scum hide best in the long term when they are considered to be scum hunting but they try to avoid drawing suspicion on themselves and certainly won't do that in order to help town.
This theory of course relies on us actually believing your explanation though. Why did you wait 7 minutes before posting a new vote?
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In post 50, Mathilda wrote:It is difficult to imagine the same person making a mistake so early in the same game as they make a make a keen strategic ploy, as described in #23. It suggests that he is not paying that much attention to the game and that his excuse is not to be trusted.
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In post 54, Zoronos wrote:In post 51, Zulfy wrote:I agree completely! Now answer my question, please.
What was your question?
+1. We're on page 3 bro. Not that hard to go look. Why'd you call me out on my voteswitch?
In post 55, Garmr wrote:So basically the question is why is ice keeping her vote on a rvs vote instead of a scummy post?
Keep up the good work Garmr.
In post 57, Elyse wrote:@Zulfy
So you're saying you unvoted and revoted because you were voting RC for RVS but the second vote was serious?
Zulfy here. Yes
I like FA votes too.
You mean you like Frozen's vote on me or the votes on Frozen?
In post 58, Frozen Angel wrote:My real scum hunting begun when a real wagon is going on ...
Like this?
VOTE: FrozenAngel
If the RVS captain planet hatewagon ever gets to L-1 I will hammer.-
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Hurrying because I got to go to work:
Having my RV be on a wagon still counts as an RV. There is absolutely zero reason to scumread me at this point.
Lhix, we were already on our way out of RVS, pay attention or stop trolling whatever you're doing.
Keyser explain that question after Lhix broke the rules (By the way, Jake from State Farm, I thought there was no comfirmable randomization?)-
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In post 142, Elyse wrote:@Zulfy
When Zoronos asked you why you switched your vote to RC, you said you wanted the wagon. That doesn't look like an RVS vote to me. An RVS vote would be something like your first vote.Starting a random-ass wagon on a random-ass player falls into the RVS category for me.
In post 79, RadiantCowbells wrote:
This is a weird ass response and I get the impression that Lhix may not have been lying.Yep.
In post 147, Mathilda wrote:In post 65, Zulfy wrote:[quote="In
If the RVS captain planet hatewagon ever gets to L-1 I will hammer.
Wooah! Intention to hammer already?No, de-railing the lynch on a player because of a cartoon character.I liked your effort to get us out of RVS whatever your motivation, but I can't see why you should be so sure of anything at this point to state an intention to hammer, even speculative.
UNVOTE: Keyser because I liked #53.
VOTE: Zulfy for above reasons.And what about now?
In post 149, Mathilda wrote:In post 102, TheLhix wrote:In post 101, RadiantCowbells wrote:Also, the flying fuck is Lhix doing?
Sorry. Was feeling a bit off and was trying to bait reaction out of RVS to actually get the ball rolling and have something comprehensive to look at and read/analyze/hunt/discuss. Was a bit of a risky thing to attempt, but it has worked for me in the past I suppose. Still feeling it out on this new meta though
, and then sort of continued to make himself look scummy when he should have stopped and could have looked town.But we're already out of RVS. Zulify did that waaay back
Okay. Where did I continue to make myself look scummy?
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Preview edit: Lhix, you don't have to copy the entire quote, delete everything that isn't relevant to your reply Response to what I bolded and enlarged.
Second preview edit: Sorry.
In post 159, Jake from State Farm wrote:In post 158, Zulfy wrote:(By the way, Jake from State Farm, I thought there was no comfirmable randomization?)
There isn't
Sometimes there is. Why do it? Why tell us you did it? +1
In post 162, Aneninen wrote:In post 157, Zulfy wrote:Keyser's avatar is a picture of Captain Planet.
Captain Planet and the Planeteers is a cartoon. There's Captain Planet and 5 planeteers. In this analogy I am Ma-Ti. Elyse and Anine get to be Sly Sludge and Verminous Skumm for not paying attention to the game.
Yes, I know that cartoon, but it's still confusing when the same player is called by many different names.
In post 163, Jake from State Farm wrote:it's not that confusing
Just look at his profile pic. It's like calling me Zulfikar.
In post 164, Jake from State Farm wrote:
you have to keep in mind that the only one who said the reaction was weird was RC, and pretty much anything RC says can be ignored.
In post 167, Jake from State Farm wrote:Eh, I've got no better place to put my vote. Lord help me but I'll sheep RC. That's not something I'd normally do
vote: keyser
This game is taking care of itself, huh. +1
In post 170, Keyser Söze wrote:In post 158, Zulfy wrote:Keyser explain that question after Lhix broke the rules
In post 75, RadiantCowbells wrote:It's against site rules to claim scum with someone else, btw.
^^
ThisUnderstood.
Based on TheLhix's play so far, I conclude that he is a bonafide newbie. I have ruled out trolling.I'd say the newest players are the most likely to troll.
In post 160, InputPrimary wrote:For nowwho said Keyser's reaction to Lhix's insanity was weird.I'll just sheep the people
VOTE: Keyser Söze
This is a very bold move - I like it.
Is his brashness somehow town-indicative? Ugh.
By the way, I won't be making a roleclaim unless the mod confirms the rule regarding claiming scum with another player. If I do roleclaim, we will likely be lynching someone on my wagon.[/size][/font]
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In post 240, InputPrimary wrote:Zulfy, you just "Yep'ed" RC's reason for voting Keyser, the person whose lynch you were trying to derail. What?
Trying to derail people from voting on him because of his profile pic.
To anybody who ever plays with me in the future: When an RVS wagon gets to L1 I will always hammer.
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In post 175, Garmr wrote:I'm a bit iffy with keyser at the moment since he did just beat me in a game he we just finished as mafia.
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post 186 was a good defense.
Lhix derailed the momentum we had with me and Ice (is that we all call her?) Spazzed around for a while and then pretended it was all protown. Also his verbosity irritates me.
VOTE: Lhix
And I'd bet you $5 (only 5) that he was telling the truth about him and his scummates.-
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In post 243, TheLhix wrote:My response to that is the same as it has been, when I did all of my action for the purpose specified
What purpose specified? I guess I missed it.-
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In post 260, Elyse wrote:I could see Zulfy or Frozen scum based on VCA.
VCA=vote count? What does this mean? Also could you actually lay out your attacks on me?
RC, I can't see why you would think that +1-
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In post 277, Garmr wrote:Lay down the reasoning then before you conveniently forgot. And no me and Elyse aren't masons
Also your the one flipping shit throwing accusations. Wtf is wrong with you.
Lay down the reasoning RC.
In post 279, Frozen Angel wrote:In post 266, Garmr wrote:
Being a hypocrite doesn't make one scumIn post 265, RadiantCowbells wrote:What the fuck do you even mean Garmr?
This isn't about what she said it's about how she said it's about the fact that she's discussing that and in that fashion.
this took my attention. the only thing we have right now in the process of game to work on , are scummy behaviors. we don't know who is scum and who is not . and being a hypocrite is a scummy behavior. So you think we shouldn't look for scummy behaviors to find scums?
As others have said, hypocrisy isn't necessarily scummy.
Ooh town points here. You're not going after the bait.
In post 283, Aneninen wrote:In post 186, Mathilda wrote:It's in scum's interest to spend longer in RVS because it is not possible to hunt scum when no one can take your vote seriously. This is because it does not assert any pressure on the recipient. The more time that is spend on scum hunting the harder it is to avoid suspicion. So someone who breaks us out of RVS is in my opinion playing pro-town. Now you can argue that scum could go about hiding by play pro-town but in my experience people remember suspicious behaviour more than they remember how other people played pro-town.
I don't think it's working in that way.
Actually this reasoning reminds me of my first scumgame. I used another kind of generalization there ("scums are lurking early-game") so as to avoid picking up fights and draw too much attention on me.
In post 186, Mathilda wrote:Are you suggesting that I should be utterly confident in my reads this early in the game and unwilling to entertain all possibilities or to change my mind?
No.
But your posts were typlically "one step forward, one step back". This is a good way to look as if you were doing something whilst avoiding direct conflicts with others.This is true Mathilda, have you replied to this?
In post 191, Zoronos wrote:
a) Those pronouncements of pro-town play seemed out of line with actions. I don't think Zulfy was playing pro-town
Do you think I'm playing anti-town? What is your read on me right now?
In post 298, Mathilda wrote:In post 242, Zulfy wrote:
To anybody who ever plays with me in the future: When an RVS wagon gets to L1 I will always hammer.
If that wagon goes away and comes back with some essence? Then yea, that's called playing mafia.
Why?
Not relevant to this game at all now. We can talk about it some other time if you'd like.-
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In post 260, Elyse wrote:@Zoronos
I could see Zulfy or Frozen scum based on VCA. Zulfy has stayed off the wagon whilst not opposing it and frozen was the counterwagon. So if keyser were to flip town, frozen could be scum for that reason.
Second time asking you this +1, what are you talking about here?-
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In post 327, Jake from State Farm wrote:In post 253, Zulfy wrote:But uhhh why not just jump into what was already there and try to start your own thing? Kinda like what Lhix was doing...
Somehow missed this question
Because I'm not lhix
But uhhh why not just jump into what was already there and try to start your own thing? Lhix did the same thing you did and I scumread him for it. Hence why I'm asking you.-
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In post 333, Jake from State Farm wrote:1. Yes I was doing my own Rvs thing like everyone else did
2. Me doing my own thing isn't alignment indicative so it's stupid to try and imply it is
3. See number 2
4. Scum reading somebody for not jumping in to the game is also stupid because it's not alignment indicative so your basis for scum reading lhix and myself are bad and if you are town I hope after this game you learn to not do it anymore.
Right, I'll just stop talking to you.
Everybody, yoo-hoo: What are your reads on me and the Geico gecko?-
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In post 340, Elyse wrote:@Zulfy
You need to ask me a better question than "what do you mean?" I also didn't see your question the first time.
You should be paying attention.
I feel you could have inferred what I was asking. What about your vote count analysis on me makes you read me as scummy?
+1, seems to me you're being obtuse to gain some thinking time.
Not relevant to this game at all now. We can talk about it some other time if you'd like.[/quote]
Except it is relevant because you brought it up #65. It rings LAMISTry to me and now you're evading giving an explanation. I'm not interested in getting bogged down in a conversation of generic game mechanics, but I do want to know that you had a good reason to policy lynch Keyser in the event of reaching L-1 from RVS.[/quote]
My reason: A strategy to derail an RVS wagon so we can get on with the day, in the event that we actually get to L1 (irrelevant, like I said, because we're not in RVS anymore) I'd hammer and shit would hit the fan, which is always fun to watch. Also LAMISTy? Really? No.
Response to Lhix's post 347, I just told Mathilda why I threatened to hammer the Captain Planet wagon. Regarding your supposed results from your flailing around in page 5 or wherever it was, I'm not seeing it. If you really did help, please show me where.
In post 348, Scorpious wrote:
I think you are town. I think I caught something from you earlier,but very early
Yeah? What was it?
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In post 363, Aneninen wrote:
You wanted an answer from Mathilda two posts before and you're sheeping her here. Why?
I'm sheeping because I agreed with her. I wanted an answer because I asked her a question and wanted an answer.
In post 334, Zulfy wrote:
Right, I'll just stop talking to you.
Everybody, yoo-hoo: What are your reads on me and the Geico gecko?
I don't like this. Asking for reads on self is never a town-move in my opinion.What are your reads on me and the Geico gecko?-
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In post 373, Elyse wrote:@Zulfy
I already said that you've been supporting the wagon but not haven't hopped on yourself.
Never did I support that wagon +1. Assuming you's talking about Keyser.-
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In post 423, TheLhix wrote:Kinda have no leads of anything at the moment, and what I should comment on is a bit dry as well. Would anyone mind or care to ask me question?
Of course, scum wouldneverbe so open about being lost, right? +1-
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In post 485, Jake from State Farm wrote:In post 482, Mathilda wrote:You're voting for yourself? That's such a scum tell. Complete LAMIST.
No it isn't.
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RC: He'd like to get lynched. So let's do that please.
Lhix: Other than some surface-level scumhunting, he's been tooting his own horn about how he got us out of RVS.
Keyser: MiA, not liking that. He's been on the defensive but that doesn't excuse his lack of scumhunting.
Scorpious: Nully. lurky, and unnatural sounding
Input: A dud.
List goes from most scummy to least scummy. This list is very shallow, off-the-top-of-my-head type stuff.
Input should be getting replaced soon. Okay with any others being the lynch right now.-
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In post 487, Jake from State Farm wrote:It's anti town. It's not alignment indicative
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In post 540, Elyse wrote:In the ban announcement thread TheLhix was banned for being a troll account.
I was sort of getting that vibe.
So 3 players gotta be replaced now? Daaaamn. Get on it Yames.-
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