Mini 1737: Bringer Mafia [Mafia Win]
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/confirm
I was disappointed by my role PM.There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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VOTE: All Alone
Why are you naked voting in RVS? And on a bandwagon no less.There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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Fragger, do you have links to Keyser tunneling on you and being wrong or are you scum who knows he's a good scumhunter and want to meta-deflect in advance?There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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Vedith already made that joke, Keyser.There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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In post 31, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:Beware
the power of incoherent sentences, bad ideas and awlful spelling have been unleased on this game.....also the awesome power of ADD ( in which I will make extremely stupid mistakes bc of a lack of attentention span)
I am also the potato. ......anyone who counter claim is scum and should be lynched
VOTE: TheFuzzylogic99
Serious vote; no RVS vote looks to me like a scum trying to avoid associations by not voting.There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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I wouldn't. I claimed scum in my confirm/RVS post during the Shinobi newbie game, when I was actually scum.There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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In post 36, Vedith wrote:In post 34, Accountant wrote:VOTE: TheFuzzylogic99
Serious vote; no RVS vote looks to me like a scum trying to avoid associations by not voting.
RVS is so easy to do though, it actually tells you nothing but gets the game moving. Some people just don't care for RVS.
If it's so easy to do, why is he so reluctant to do it?There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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39: I think that RVS is here for a reason and if he doesn't want to RVS I'm very interested in knowing why.
41: Yes.
42: I think being reluctant to vote is scummy. No townie has a good reason to not participate in RVS. To not vote is basically a crude form of fence-sitting.There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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I can't think of a good reason for a townie not to RVS but I can think of a good reason for scum to do so.There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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In post 51, Fraggernaut wrote:In post 29, Accountant wrote:Fragger, do you have links to Keyser tunneling on you and being wrong or are you scum who knows he's a good scumhunter and want to meta-deflect in advance?
Why would I care if he's a good scum hunter or not since I'm town?
Fragger, if you invoke meta on someone, I would like to see some source.There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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Both scum and town have incentive to throw shit around. Town because it moves the game out of RVS and can force the quiet players out of their shell, scum because they want to setup grounds for a mislynch later or control the momentum of the game.
PEdit: BulletNLynchproof's post gave me an immediate reaction of "this post is town".There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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A lot of quick bandwagons are formed on D1; scum doesn't want to get scrutinized for being on a fishy wagon, or get scrutinized for not being on a popular one. Scum also want to avoid getting associated to their partner in early RVS.There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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In post 60, Vedith wrote:In post 56, BNL wrote:VOTE: Vedith
Hasn't done much scumhunting so far; been IIOAing, answering rhetorical questions, commenting on posts rather than actually contributing.
I'm not scum hunting in the first 2 pages of the game
Get out of here! XD
We have already moved mostly out of the RVS stage. What do you think about:
- My accusations?
- Fraggernaut's refusal to give sources for his meta claim about Keyser?
- Fuzzylogic's reluctancy to RVS?
- Keyser Soze's analysis of my posts?There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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In post 62, Fraggernaut wrote:In post 54, Accountant wrote:In post 51, Fraggernaut wrote:In post 29, Accountant wrote:Fragger, do you have links to Keyser tunneling on you and being wrong or are you scum who knows he's a good scumhunter and want to meta-deflect in advance?
Why would I care if he's a good scum hunter or not since I'm town?
Fragger, if you invoke meta on someone, I would like to see some source.
What sources? Not understanding what you're trying to make a reach at here Accountant.
You said Keyser would tunnel you early D1 and probably be wrong about your alignment. Why do you think he will tunnel you? If it was due to his behavior in previous games, can you link those games?There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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In post 61, Vedith wrote:In post 59, Accountant wrote:A lot of quick bandwagons are formed on D1; scum doesn't want to get scrutinized for being on a fishy wagon, or get scrutinized for not being on a popular one. Scum also want to avoid getting associated to their partner in early RVS.
That's not true...
Scum want to look town and fit in. What do town do day 1? They normally make shit wagons and lynch a townie.
They can also make a new vote on someone, and as it's RVS, it means fuck all.
If we allow the anti town behavior of not participating in RVS to pass by as null, then plenty of scum can refuse to vote and not get suspected. Furthermore, the shit wagons d1 give us a lot of information, so it is not completely pointless.There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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In post 64, Fraggernaut wrote:In post 59, Accountant wrote:A lot of quick bandwagons are formed on D1; scum doesn't want to get scrutinized for being on a fishy wagon, or get scrutinized for not being on a popular one. Scum also want to avoid getting associated to their partner in early RVS.
So who do you think is "Associated" so far from RVS?
Keyser Soze and Fraggernaut
Vedith and BulletNLynchproof
Keyser Soze with myself
Fuzzylogic with myself
All of these people have had meaningful interactions that provides information for town.There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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Fragger: I think inattentiveness to the game needs to be punished so that scum do not use it as a way to bog down games.
Also, where is the links I asked for? If you don't want to give them, what is your reason?
Finally, I think there is a connection between you and Keyser. Whether Town and Town or scum pre-emptively discrediting a town member or something else remains to be seen. But now we know to watch out for further interactions between the two of you.
Vedith: I agree a good scum will do that. There is no guarunted that fuzzylogic is a good scum.
If Fraggernaut did not refuse to give sources for his claim about Keyser, then what is he doing? I've asked twice and he has not given them, that counts as refusing in my book.
PEdit: Vedith, explain your reasoning for "No."There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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So you are refusing to give the links?
What do you mean by meta bury?There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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I have not had a game in which one person refused to do RVS except for people who were plain lurkers.There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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Except it is you who brought up meta first, by saying that you think Keyser would tunnel you due to past games.There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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Also, I'm not particularly intetested in Keyser's actions in past games. I'm interested in what instances Fragger was thinking of when he said Keyser would tunnel him.
He was quick to give me a town read after I said that. Could possibly be because I threw him off his game already. Meaning he could be possible scum.
"Possibly be", "could be possible scum"; you sound like you want me to think Keyser is scummy(and focus my questioning on him perhaps?) while not actually coming out and saying it.
Usually Keyser leans heavy on me throughout the first two days.
Usually? As in he routinely leans heavily on you early game? You make it sound like it's something both of you are accustomed to - "wake up, receive role PM, see Fragger on player list, tunnel time!"There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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In post 83, Vedith wrote:In post 77, Accountant wrote:I have not had a game in which one person refused to do RVS except for people who were plain lurkers.
Why where do you get the reasoning for scum having a motive to not RVS?
*taps skull lightly*
I thought, why would fuzzylogic not do RVS? and came up with this answer.There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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Why does Keyser go harder on you than he does on everyone else? We all have equal chances of drawing scum.
your questioning has been weird & looks pretty fluffy when it comes to "Scum Hunting
By saying my questioning is fluffy, you are implying it is irrelevant or fillerish. Which parts were irrelevant and fillerish? Doesn't this claim contradict your previous assertion that I am reaching, which implies heavily overcommiting to a line of thought/a scumread that doesn't have sufficient evidence. So am I making bland, meaningless posts or am I going in guns blazing at the slightest provocation?There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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In post 87, Vedith wrote:In post 85, Accountant wrote:*taps skull lightly*
I thought, why would fuzzylogic not do RVS? and came up with this answer.
Again, I know what you are trying to think...
...But it's wrong. You can't even give an example of why. There has been games I've been town and not joined RVS.
And the times people have jumped on it, guess what, they were also town.
These people are engaging in anti town behavior.There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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Only post it, if you mean it.
I mean everything I post. If I didn't mean it, I would look back later and say,"Oh, that. That was a reaction test." or something. I don't think it's a good idea to brush off my claims as reachy, because they aren't.
Slandaar made a similar post in another game we have experience together in when both of us were town. He was town & I pushed pretty hard on him TvT. Could just be a emulation of his town game or the way he just starts every game. Who knows.
Slandaar does shit like this every game.
you're wrong, RVS is just a bunch of bullshit. It provides no real content and allows people to reach for illogical arguments. If you remember the last game we played mollie tunneled vedith shortly after RVS because he called her a town hero.... -_- That would be reason enough for me to not participate or consider anything that happens in RVS at face value.
mollie vs Vedith was one of the most important things that game, because it set the stage for the rest of the Day and forced the scum team(you and Celandia) to come out of hiding and make posts that mollie picked apart in her case against Celandia later. A lot of people also picked up on the associations between you and Celandia around then, which is what got you lynched after Cel flipped scum.
*half a page of song lyrics*
Please do not do this.
You heard me maggot.
Enjoy your lynch, scum.
I have mixed feelings about this. On one hand, it is page five. On the other hand, I don't like the way Fraggernaut answered some of my questions. Also, the last time RC did this she actually managed to call out scum.
Fragger's reaction also seemed weird, a bit overly defensive. Like he was inviting other players to come in and ridicule RC for calling him confirmed scum.
I would most likely assume one of the three is scum.
Why would you assume this? Do you think that everyone who pushes a bandwagon on you is scummy?
Bullet & All Alone are living in glass houses with a sack of rocks behind them waiting to start chucking them some more
You mean they are hypocrites? How so? Also, how does this affect their case? If there are two people, X and Y, and both have been acting scummy, and Y goes "X is acting scummy because of blah", that doesn't mean X is any less scummy simply because Y is scummy himself.
The fact that All Alone sheeped a horrible read from Bullet makes me lean more to Bullet being my most likely scum target thus far.
That's not a sheep though. I didn't get any vibes that All Alone was just waiting to push the first wagon he saw. Did you?
All Alone says it's weird that I complained about RVS being over, when I wasn't the first one to mention that RVS was over
No, you are attributing a fake meaning to All Alone's post. All Alone claimed that you said RVS was over, but you were still voting your RVS vote instead of a player whom you seriously suspect. Are you saying that your RVS vote(Keyser Soze) also happens to be the player you seriously suspect?
Call it OMGUS all you want. I call it taking care of outed scum.
I call it OMGUS. And the "taking care of outed scum" bit reminds me more of RC than anyone else.
It seems like you're trying to coax or buy a town read from me.
This claim has some merit.
Could it be as easy as a Bullet/All Alone/Accountant team?
Out of these three, I think the only person who might have a shot at actually being scum is Bullet.There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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VOTE: FraggernautThere's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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It's the way it was done by being a complete sheep with no logic behind it.
Logic comprises of premises and a conclusion. Observe:
1. Fraggernaut has been making contentless and fluffy posts.
2. People who make contentless and fluffy posts are usually scum.
3. Fraggernaut is scum.
Which of these 3 statements are you arguing with and claiming is bad logic?
The fact that this claim of me "not providing content" was the exact same thing I said to you which is a association I make between yourself & Bullet, which in turn leads to All Alone.
Are you proposing that, I, as scum, was accused of fluffing by you, and my scum buddy Bullet picked up on that and accused YOU of fluffing for reasons I cannot fathom, and my second scum buddy All Alone decided to sheep him, and then I decided to sheepher, leading to all three scum on a town wagon on page 8? Is that what you think happened?
Thus that was hypocritical, cause All Alone claims I haven't pushed any of my scum reads; which ironically they haven't either.
So you do not deny that you haven't pushed any of your scum reads before All Alone called you out on it?
Fraggernaut, I think post 198 was extremely, extremely defensive. You repeatedly attack Bullet and All Alone to the extent of even going to draw pre-flip associations between them and me, then claim they are merely "scum leans". From the way you were talking, I would have expected you to list us three as confirmed scum. I think that RC has struck gold in her D1 accusations again.
moar votes on fragger plzThere's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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Where have you posted that wasn't fluff?
Dude.
If I go up to you and say "I'm accusing you of being a racist", and you deny it, it would be my job to prove what racist remarks you have made. Not going "what have you said that isn't racist?"
The burden of proof is on the accuser. I don't think any of my posts(save the first couple of posts during RVS) are fluff, and I'm not going to quote my entire ISO here.
logically sound catch of All Alone's slip & were pretty quick to defend the slip.
That's not a slip though. That's you pointing out that he was a hypocrite, which in no way means he's wrong.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque
This is you right now. If you actually are town, shape up your game and stop acting like lynchbait and lashing out at people who accuse you for no reason.There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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Please give me more votes so I can out my role & show you how dumb you are.
Are you really fucking softclaiming right now.There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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Just one more vote and you can "out your role and show us how dumb we are".There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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In post 208, Fraggernaut wrote:In post 205, Accountant wrote:Please give me more votes so I can out my role & show you how dumb you are.
Are you really fucking softclaiming right now.
Hm. That's the fun of all this. Is it not?
Your vote is on me without logic. L2 is a pretty tight spot without a claim eh? Do you risk it?
This is either trolltown!Fraggernaut or caughtscum!Fraggernaut.
Either way, I don't want him in this game.There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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Why as scum would I bring this much attention on myself early game?
There are plenty of scum who bring a shitload of attention on themselves early game. Just a quick example from a game I was spectating:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p7175179
ktthecreeper, as scum, naked voting and trying to hammer someone on page 2.
Maybe you should go do a meta dive & learn about my play.
Why would I do this? Meta is worthless.
Yet you're perfectly fine letting Radiant & others troll a whole page cause it takes the spotlight off you. Right Accountant?
I don't want the spotlight to be off me. I love being in the spotlight, as either alignment, because I play best when I'm playing active. That's why I made aggressive accusations day 1 and why I repeatedly interrogated a bunch of players. Not to mention, I did actually call them out on it and tell them to stop:
Please do not do this.
PEdits:
Perhaps I am what I am. Or am willing to take a role bullet. Either way I'm always beneficial to town.
The only role that is willing to take a bullet due to an un-asked for softclaim is a vanilla townie. Is that what you're claiming?
Also it's pretty bad play for Frozen to put me at L2 without stating intent cause scum can quick hammer a mislynch right here. So always look at Frozen as well.
No it fucking wouldn't, because scum would never do that, because if someone quickhammered without stating intent themselves they'd get lynched tomorrow.There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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I feel that continuing to talk to Fraggernaut won't be productive any more, due to the way he's acting right now. I'm just going to leave it for a bit.There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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The thing is, I don't think you're town. The attitude you are espousing is also irritating to talk to and the way you answer my questions is sarcastic and you also refuse to give me real information. For example, instead of building an actual case against All Alone and Bullet, you tend to repeatedly call them hypocrites and talk about how they are scumwagoning you. This is a bad thing. Unless you have something new to share, I'm not interested in hearing your shit repeated a second time.There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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nah man, he's scumThere's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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From the vote count:
Fraggernaut (L-2): RadiantCowbells, BulletNLynchProof, All Alone, Accountant, Frozen Angel
This is not the voting pattern of 3 scumbuddies working to lynch an innocent town.There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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@Post 235: I don't see where is the post where you actually talk about Bullet's accusation that you are not providing original content. All you did was deflect and then go "what about YOUR content, huh?"There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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I think Fragger is scum. I want to see him at L-1 with intent to hammer, and then we'll see what claim he's going to pull out of his ass.There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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Wow you're quite a donkey.
There's no need for this sort of personal attack even if you feel upset.There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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Fragger when you say something you have to actually back it up and not just insult your opponents with terms like "you're just trying to mis-rep" me.
Like, you said "I did call Frozen out" and RC goes "no you didn't" and then instead of providing a counter evidence to RC's quote you just say he's misrepping you.
Also just realized that for post 212 you literally just took the last 4 people on your wagon and listed them as scum. That's pretty big defensiveness/OMGUS.There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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I reject meta arguments, and All Alone has not sheeped enough wagons(first one was RVS, second was obviously scummy) for me to read her as scum due to sheeping.There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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Fraggernaut, after you have been put into pressure, I like it that you are starting to give your personal opinions and contributing to scumhunting.
I see this as null. It could be townie who is doing this, or scum who does not want to get lynched day 1 and is desperately trying to act useful. So this does not affect my opinion of Fraggernaut, who is still my top scumread.There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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What's your meta-analysis: is "Accountant's antitown=scum pushing" consistent with her town-meta?
I usually push on antitown players as either alignment.
It was pretty bad when you didn't state intent.
You want players to state intent to put you at L-2?
You put me at L2 & then after the fact said something along the lines of "Oh that's L2" like it was a afterthought.
That's what calling L-2 is, an afterthought.
Waiting it out as scum to watch a mislynch? Or waiting it out as town?
What was the point of asking this? Do you really expect fuzzylogic to come on, quote this sentence and go "I'm waiting it out as scum to watch a mislynch, you caught me gg"? Because if it wasn't, then this just looks like doubtcasting.
I don't like Blockyhead's posts, he looks like he's grasping at straws to defend Fragger. I'm pretty confident of my read for today and I'd like to see Fragger lynched.There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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Fuzzylogic seems like a new player trying to prevent a day 1 mislynch FMPOVThere's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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Really? Huh.There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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Keyser Soze is all but confirmed town in my eyes. I simply don't see how scum!Keyser would write these sort of posts right now.
Fragger still needs to die.There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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@Accountant - how do you read Fraggernaut's 'get-the-f***-off-me' warning:
He's just grasping at straws here. If he was really a PR trying to get out of a mislynch he could always hard claim and quote the breadcrumbs with explanation.
HAHAHAHAHA YOU SLIPPED AND ADMITTED ACCOUNTANT AND I ARE GENUINE
I don't think this was as bad a slip as you made it out to be honest. But yeah kill the fragger, turbo or not I don't care. Just let him die by the end of today.
Just terrible.
Why? If you really can't spare the time to play the game properly you should replace out.
Slandaar, what? Isn't it bad to turbolynch since it cuts off discussion for town?
About turbolynch.
I think if we've come to a general consensus about who to lynch, we should hammer. Usually that extra couple of days of discussion doesn't lead to anything productive and just leads to townies getting cold feet on a scum wagon. It also wears down town's patience. There's this grind throughout a long game that slowly starts to sap away players' motivation to keep involved, and excessively long days leads to that.
Blocky is trying to go "against the crowd" to push a Fragger townread, so if Fragger is scum, I think Blocky is one of his buddy.
On the contrary. If Fragger flips scum, I'd give Blocky a slight townlean. I don't think a mafia player like Blocky would, as scum, defend a universally scumread buddy on day 1. I think if Fragger were scum his buddy would have definitely bussed him by now.
Fuzzylogic: I am quite unsure, and I do not know how to read 325. I think I am having trouble reading him. But one thing of note is that he has mentioned only Accountant, RadiantCowbells and Fraggernaut in his posts. (Technically he said Key in 116, but I think its just a typo). Not sure what this means, if any, but basically I am having trouble reading Fuzzy.
I like this paragraph. Town points for bullet.There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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@All Alone:
Why is this person
hmm. He has some valid points about the game. I request him to clarify his stance.
more town than this person
She is a town bloody murderer in my opinion. These kinds of offensive play in day 1 brings information. untill I see a really scummy mistake from her, You can't convince me she is scum becuase of her offensive playstyle.
A person with "some valid points" and an apparently unclear stance is more town than someone who you can't be convinced is scum?
but his attack against AA seems a bit harash
How so? I thought he brought up valid points. I'm sort of null on All Alone at the moment, but I don't think that his attack seemed reachy, mislynchy or any of the things you would usually associate with a scum attack on town.
well she is just like Accountant, But extremely emotional instead of rational. As i mentioned before I'll stay null at her unless I find something out of boundries and her play style is not suspicious in my opinion.
Off topic but this is the second male player you have labeled as female so far in your reads list. Keep in mind that both me and RC are male, even if we have female avatars.
the only thing you gave us is a vote and an example about a fire camp. You need to be more active.
Basically sums up my entire read on Slandaar lmfao
@Fraggernaut:
I still would like to know if Blocky is independently reading me town just based on this game, or if he is reading me town just solely based on previous game experiences in a attempt to try to sway me over to his side or pocket me. So far his repeated attempts to try defend me leave me skeptical & are lacking any real content other then "I'm town" In regards to his read on me.
One of the major issues I have with you is this type of reasoning. If someone thinks you are scum, you call them VI or scum tunnelers. If someone thinks you are town, you accuse them of trying to buddy you. Whodoyou think is town? Keyser?
A lot of the quotes in your #352 post are incomplete or taken out of context. Such as when I had a slight town lean on Accountant that was very early game. As the day progressed & I analyzed Accountant's game, my read on them changed. Such is what the game of Mafia is all about. It's a solid analysis & I'm still reading you pretty town, but the post itself has some flaws.
If you feel that Keyser was misrepresenting you by taking your quotes out of context, feel free to provide the proper context for the quotes.
My Scumread are bullet him and frozen, do i vote bullet?
For fuck's sake Blocky, you've been here for nearly half a year. It is a generally good policy to vote your scumreads.There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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scum-o-meter
Keyser: 1/10
Frag 3/10
Vedith 4/10
All Alone 5/10
Bullet 6/10
Frozen 7/10
Radiant 9/10
Do you have any reasoning for this? Putting Radiant above All Alone, Vedith above Frag? I can't see it at all. Also, where do I rank on this, since you apparently missed me?
Everyone not voting Fraggernaut: please explain why you feel that he is not scummy enough to be lynched today(or, if you have already done so and I missed it, link to that post).There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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Remember when All Alone claimed she "does that every game?"
From the "do you play to your town meta as scum" thread in mafia discussion:
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After we lynch Fragger I'm going to vote Slandaar tomorrow.There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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Slandaar: reads list with special emphasis on Keyser, Fragger, All Alone and myself please.There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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Frozen Angel is now my top townread. You can't fake that kind of attitude.There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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I like 399.There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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Quote where they slipped.There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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I never should have sent you that snapchat RCThere's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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I have my thoughts on RC vs P0 but I want to see P0's reaction first.There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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Nobody said there was consensus on your lynch Fragger.There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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I still want to lynch Fraggernaut. But if you people don't want to lynch Fragger(why?!), I think we should go for Blocky, Fuzzy(mayybe) or Slandaar.There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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> I think Fraggernaut must die.
*people get cold feet and hop off his wagon*
> Guys Fragger should die but if you don't have the balls to do it at least get Slandaar instead.
> this is backpedallingThere's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
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