Mini 1742: game over

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #103 (isolation #0) » Sun Nov 29, 2015 6:57 pm

Haven't read anything yet, this avatar is extremely creepy.

VOTE: JohnnyFarrar

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #106 (isolation #1) » Sun Nov 29, 2015 8:01 pm

Do you think it is?

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #154 (isolation #2) » Mon Nov 30, 2015 5:41 pm

In post 87, Taly wrote:I actually think if ABR is purposely lurking it could be a scum-tell... You know... given that the mod confirmed on the first post that mafia did have 72 hours of daytalk.

I doubt the most active people in this game are scum.

What's the theory behind this?

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #156 (isolation #3) » Mon Nov 30, 2015 5:42 pm

More specifically, what's the connection between 72 hour daytalk and low activity from scum?

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #157 (isolation #4) » Mon Nov 30, 2015 5:43 pm

I guess my skimming of the first couple pages has caught up with recent discussion. Marvelous.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #159 (isolation #5) » Mon Nov 30, 2015 5:44 pm

VOTE: RC

Let's do this.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #239 (isolation #6) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:12 am

In post 179, RadiantCowbells wrote:In fact it's bothering me because I'm not sure that Titus is scum here, just deathtunneling like a derp.

VOTE: ABR

This is scum for sure.

This strategy is getting old.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #248 (isolation #7) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:51 am

Change your avatar lol it's legitimately terrible. The walls of text in this game are demotivating me. Let's make a lynch happen.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #256 (isolation #8) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:26 pm

VOTE: johnny

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #288 (isolation #9) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:31 pm

In post 286, ICEninja wrote:If you don't play this game, this'll be the last one we play together.

Why, are you quitting mafiascum?

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #341 (isolation #10) » Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:11 am

In post 333, ICEninja wrote:I'll quit joining games you're in.

You play what, one game a year?

I came off of a very emotionally invested game, warcraft 3 mafia. When you pour that much of your life force into putting yourself into people's skin to think how they think, controlling every aspect of the thread from the pacing, to the votes, to the emotional state of other players...it's extremely exhausting.

I don't put out that kind of energy in every game. In fact, I usually have a cooldown period.

This is what usually happens, I join three games, and one of them takes off and I'm fully engaged with it while the others I simply follow my process. I make observe, I sheep bandwagons, I annoy players. That's just how it is.

Even without emotionally investing myself, I trust my judgment when it comes to my voting. I am effective either way. Sometimes, I get lynched for not bringing enough energy into the game. You have to pay the cost to be the boss. I live for the moments where I am completely obsessed with the game, when I find that sweet spot. That's the best I have to offer to this game. Worth the other games where I'm low energy and skimming.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #343 (isolation #11) » Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:31 am

Consider it done.

VOTE: Ice

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #368 (isolation #12) » Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:06 pm

scummy as hell ^

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #383 (isolation #13) » Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:52 pm

You're delusional if you're town but I'm banking on cheeky scum

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #390 (isolation #14) » Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:30 pm

Whoa....dude.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #392 (isolation #15) » Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:46 pm

Sorry for your loss.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #409 (isolation #16) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:10 am

In post 408, talah wrote:And actually thinking about it he's done this a couple of times then - saying something which doesn't really have a point immediately but rather requires a response from the other player to an obvious implication. (ie - "I have an opinion on this but it's not really stated and when you respond, I can make the actual point so it gives me something to refer to next time I post if I need it".) Also a possible stalling tactic.

So did anyone ever actually respond to that or not?

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #411 (isolation #17) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:08 am

I digged this gem up:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=60469

Check my iso. I have the same discussions every off game. Still won.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #412 (isolation #18) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:11 am

I have a process for getting engaged with games. Until then, I use my vote same like anyone else. I think Ice is scum, my vote is on him.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #423 (isolation #19) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:00 am

In post 420, JohnnyFarrar wrote:I'm suddenly grateful

Gratefulness is a great thing.

Except I win even with low effort, that's how good I am. Even gave you a link as evidence

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #425 (isolation #20) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:27 am

In post 424, JohnnyFarrar wrote:a bunch of frustrated people voting you when they could be using their vote somewhere that actually matters.

I have as many votes as you have.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #435 (isolation #21) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:59 am

Vote and see. We don't have all the answers but we've been playing this game a long time and have a lot of reasons for voting someone even if we don't verbalize them.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #436 (isolation #22) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 12:01 pm

Taly you asked for my reads and I gave them. Ice is scum and needs more votes.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #440 (isolation #23) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 12:16 pm

Your face is creepy.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #444 (isolation #24) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 12:38 pm

I'm just happy that everyone is voting. This game has a lot of promise.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #447 (isolation #25) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 12:54 pm

Derptown voting me whose name is easy to confuse with Taly

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #448 (isolation #26) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 12:55 pm

Talah "I don't have time to answer right now" then proceeds to write a wall the size of the entire mini normal queue thread.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #450 (isolation #27) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 1:10 pm

In post 449, JohnnyFarrar wrote:are you just super free with townreads then?

What?

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #453 (isolation #28) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 1:15 pm

It's irrelevent to alignment.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #455 (isolation #29) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 1:22 pm

I don't think it's alignment indicative, but you do. What does that say about you?

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #460 (isolation #30) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 3:15 pm

In post 458, Taly wrote:I have no idea why you're so confident in Wickan being town

He's unlikely to be scum with Ice given their interactions.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #462 (isolation #31) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 3:57 pm

In post 461, Taly wrote:ABR is just hard to try to speak to... I wonder if D2 would be easier - since we'd see flips then. But I wouldn't mind either way, though I wouldn't want to pursue him again right now.

I'm getting more active now and getting more involved. We'll see how things line up by day 2.

In post 461, Taly wrote:Idk; I've had some scary thoughts of Wickan and Ice being together but that seems very stretchy at this point.

I don't think so bro.

In post 461, Taly wrote:What do you think of Wickans vote on me, and Wickans interactions with ICE so far?

I can see you being scum. Wickans could be scum, but unlikely with Ice, who I think is scum. I already made my thoughts clear about Wickans-Ice, don't know if you caught that.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #464 (isolation #32) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 4:11 pm

You're off your rocker if you think that I'm scum.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #466 (isolation #33) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 4:13 pm

In this game?

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #469 (isolation #34) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 4:18 pm

In post 467, talah wrote:So yeah whatever I'm prepared to take a gamble here.

Fair enough lol, we can work together for sure.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #471 (isolation #35) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 4:19 pm

Wickan get your vote on Ice.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #473 (isolation #36) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 4:22 pm

Why do you keep talking about no lynching as if that's even in the realm of possibility? Everyone is voting. This is one of the most active towns I've seen, the reading is dense, people are mostly engaged. There's no way we are going to NL. Vote who you think is scum, period. This game just started.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #474 (isolation #37) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 4:25 pm

Wickan, talah, Titus, and me vs. ICE, RC, Taly

Is this the gist of how today is gonna go?

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #477 (isolation #38) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 4:30 pm

In post 128, ICEninja wrote:Oh also, ABR is now posting in other games but hasn't yet read this one. He's quickly climbing up my scumlist.

In post 177, ICEninja wrote:I can understand why someone would be scum reading you this game.

These two posts are scummy.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #479 (isolation #39) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 4:36 pm

doesn't feel right

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #488 (isolation #40) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 4:59 pm

I don't like how Wickan is approaching the game trying to find cracks, it feels like he's patting around the dark for the path of least resistance to a mislynch.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #492 (isolation #41) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 5:07 pm

In post 489, Wickan wrote:
In post 488, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I don't like how Wickan is approaching the game trying to find cracks, it feels like he's patting around the dark for the path of least resistance to a mislynch.

I honestly don't know what this means.

Johnny do you know what this means or should I retain the services of an alien interpreter?

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #493 (isolation #42) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 5:07 pm

In post 491, Titus wrote:
In post 488, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I don't like how Wickan is approaching the game trying to find cracks, it feels like he's patting around the dark for the path of least resistance to a mislynch.

That's what Ice is doing. Wickan is being clear about his reads. Ice says someone make a case. Wickan is saying here I am deal with it.

Ice is trying to lynch Wickan.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #495 (isolation #43) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 5:09 pm

Titus are you going to take over this game, or do I have to, because RC is either scum or misguided.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #498 (isolation #44) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 5:15 pm

In post 494, Wickan wrote:
In post 489, Wickan wrote:
In post 488, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
I don't like how Wickan is approaching the game trying to find cracks,
it feels like he's patting around the dark for the path of least resistance to a mislynch.

I honestly don't know what this means.

To be precise, the bolded part makes no sense to me.

The latter half I understand, and I guess my only response is "no"

You have to read it as part of a whole

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #500 (isolation #45) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 5:16 pm

Anyway, we're at page 20, 6 votes to end the day, let's just lynch Ice.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #501 (isolation #46) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 5:16 pm

In post 499, Wickan wrote:Fine. Then, "no"

It's you or Ice. Choose.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #503 (isolation #47) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 5:17 pm

If you guys want to drag this out for 3 weeks we can, but I don't vote for that plan.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #507 (isolation #48) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 5:20 pm

In post 504, Titus wrote:
In post 495, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Titus are you going to take over this game, or do I have to, because RC is either scum or misguided.

I will let you. Any RC read I put forth she'll spin as drama. You me and Wickan have the same reads.

Let's just see how it goes.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #556 (isolation #49) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 8:49 pm

Well, here we go, let's see where the wheel finishes spinning this time.

VOTE: Wickan

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #557 (isolation #50) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 8:50 pm

In post 549, ICEninja wrote:ABR finds me scummy because I pinged a lurker. It's conceivably possible that I've done that in literally every single 30-something games I've played in. How the HELL is that alignment indicative at ALL?

Titus wrote:
Ice says someone make a case. Wickan is saying here I am deal with it.

Nice cherry picking, the same post I say that I don't see myself voting for anyone other than you or Wickan.

Jeez the votes on me are AWFUL. ARB literally has no reason to vote me, Titus seems to be scum reading me because he hates my Wickan vote (STILL NEVER ADDRESSED THE FACT THAT HE TOWNREAD WICKAN FOR SOMETHING THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN), and talah sheeps a vote on me despite not being particularly convinced I'm scum. Yikes, if there isn't scum on my wagon then town has NO chance of winning this game.

Titus wrote:
Look at his ISO. It's focused exclusively on breaking up our townreads and begging others for cases for the most part.

I don't even know how to respond to that because it's so blatantly false. Holy shit.

I'm a little confused about how ASP's repetition of talah's read on ABR (despite being REMARKABLY similar in wording) indicates scum more than lazy. Though I will say his comments prepping himself for voting me before actually reading me is scummy.

Are you drunk too? Is everybody drunk?

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #580 (isolation #51) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:46 pm

That's my secret.

I'm always worried.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #606 (isolation #52) » Fri Dec 04, 2015 5:00 pm

I've no interest in voting Titus out at the moment.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #611 (isolation #53) » Fri Dec 04, 2015 5:24 pm

In post 610, Taly wrote:ABR, whats your read on SP?

Not someone I'm interested in lynching in the foreseeable future.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #613 (isolation #54) » Fri Dec 04, 2015 5:54 pm

In post 612, RadiantCowbells wrote:Please noooo

Who do you think is Titus' partner?

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #615 (isolation #55) » Fri Dec 04, 2015 5:56 pm

You're in luck! Wickan and ASP are the leading bandwagons!

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #617 (isolation #56) » Fri Dec 04, 2015 6:46 pm

Hint: it's Wickan

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #623 (isolation #57) » Sat Dec 05, 2015 9:28 am

In post 621, Taly wrote:Interesting... Why?

Do you find their contradictions come from scum or town - or see them at all?

I don't see it. If there are contradictions, they are minor enough to disregard.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #638 (isolation #58) » Sat Dec 05, 2015 3:18 pm

Nobody. We're going to let the game drag on for 3 weeks. Let's go hibernate. See you guys in Christmas!

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #647 (isolation #59) » Sat Dec 05, 2015 6:23 pm

In post 645, RadiantCowbells wrote:Please don't hammer Wick before I can say my piece about Titus.

Is this coming out tonight?

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #652 (isolation #60) » Sat Dec 05, 2015 7:53 pm

Is that intent to hammer? ^

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #655 (isolation #61) » Sat Dec 05, 2015 10:15 pm

Ok cool, so now that you have had your turn to speak, you can sit back down and we can hammer Wickan after he claims.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #656 (isolation #62) » Sat Dec 05, 2015 10:16 pm

Wickan is literally the person she wants to lynch the least; if you think Titus is scum, Wickan is the way to go.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #702 (isolation #63) » Sun Dec 06, 2015 11:31 am

Titus stop derailing wagons.

VOTE: Talah

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #703 (isolation #64) » Sun Dec 06, 2015 11:32 am

VOTE: Taly

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #705 (isolation #65) » Sun Dec 06, 2015 11:43 am

VOTE: Wickan

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #707 (isolation #66) » Sun Dec 06, 2015 11:47 am

Wickan and ASS need to pick wagons.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #709 (isolation #67) » Sun Dec 06, 2015 11:49 am

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #711 (isolation #68) » Sun Dec 06, 2015 12:02 pm

SP isn't voting anyone.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #715 (isolation #69) » Sun Dec 06, 2015 1:01 pm

Wickan is ballsy if he's scum.

Best move for his survival would be to join a main wagon, not hold out.

VOTE: Taly

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #717 (isolation #70) » Sun Dec 06, 2015 1:23 pm

If ASP-Wickan, then he votes you over his buddy.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #718 (isolation #71) » Sun Dec 06, 2015 1:24 pm

More likely scenario was you-wickan for the mutual townreading. You rarely ever bus, so putting yourself as mutual townreads is logical.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #721 (isolation #72) » Sun Dec 06, 2015 1:58 pm

Better than getting lynched D1.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #722 (isolation #73) » Sun Dec 06, 2015 1:59 pm

You don't understand 715...?

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #744 (isolation #74) » Sun Dec 06, 2015 8:32 pm

In post 743, talah wrote:If I was scum I would have bussed him 20 pages ago and probably while 72h daychat was happening presuming it actually existed.

Anywhoo, fuck this noise, he won't even vote his own counterwagon, let's get a lynch.

No you wouldn't. That's silly.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #745 (isolation #75) » Sun Dec 06, 2015 8:32 pm

Him not voting either of his two counterwagons is actually a point in his favor.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #759 (isolation #76) » Mon Dec 07, 2015 9:23 am

I'm happy where my vote is. I'm happy sitting here until the time elapses. Do something, or don't. The choice is yours.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #760 (isolation #77) » Mon Dec 07, 2015 9:25 am

In post 748, talah wrote:What happened to your read on Ice anyway, ABR?

Taly is the scummiest player to me right now. I'll re-evaluate Ice after the flip.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #765 (isolation #78) » Mon Dec 07, 2015 11:23 am

In post 764, Taly wrote:Yay, so you'll tunnel AND provide little to nothing else even though you've yet to explain why I'm scum, or even consider it from what I'm seeing.

I will explain it when I decide to. Not on your time.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #768 (isolation #79) » Mon Dec 07, 2015 11:39 am

In post 767, Taly wrote:Especially since you derailed a wagon everyone seemed to believe was scum, and darted after a vote on me for initiating that wagon to L-1 - for that persons 'survival'

If you think I unvoted Wickan because I'm scum with him, why are you voting Titus now?

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #775 (isolation #80) » Mon Dec 07, 2015 12:17 pm

In post 773, Titus wrote:You just come off as pissed that I saw ABR and Wickan as town before you did.

I don't think this is the case.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #776 (isolation #81) » Mon Dec 07, 2015 12:19 pm

I'm obviously town and Wickan is too, but RC did write his reasons for lynching you that has nothing to do with that.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #854 (isolation #82) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:36 pm

Titus I'm down for lynching ASP today as well.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #858 (isolation #83) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:40 pm

VOTE: ASP

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #859 (isolation #84) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:41 pm

RC is a really bad lynch and it feels like OMGUS from you Titus...

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #861 (isolation #85) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:45 pm

I don't know dude, I rather lynch ASP than someone like Titus or RC who are good players on day 1.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #868 (isolation #86) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:59 pm

In post 862, Titus wrote:
In post 859, Albert B. Rampage wrote:RC is a really bad lynch and it feels like OMGUS from you Titus...

Why? Without referencing RC's skill, why is she worth keeping?

He brings balance to the force LOL

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #871 (isolation #87) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:06 pm

We are 3 votes on ASP dude

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #873 (isolation #88) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:07 pm

In post 872, Taly wrote:But then I want to vote SP because... I've yet to have a 'aha' moment on his alignment, and I don't see anything majorly towny at this point; it's just suspicion.

Do it.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #879 (isolation #89) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:13 pm

OK well let's lynch ASP then, not RC.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #881 (isolation #90) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:14 pm

Told you he was town.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #882 (isolation #91) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:15 pm

I think RC should go in the pool though instead of Talah.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #884 (isolation #92) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:17 pm

It's more important to confirm RC than talah based on the information we get.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #885 (isolation #93) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:17 pm

More associatives.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #889 (isolation #94) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:20 pm

In post 886, RadiantCowbells wrote:Yes, thank you.

Let's give scum more incentives to N1 me.

I haven't been N1ed in enough games recently, no siree.

If you're off about Titus, they won't NK you. They need you to keep your tunnel.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #893 (isolation #95) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:22 pm

UNVOTE:

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #898 (isolation #96) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:26 pm

We need Ice and ASP ASAP.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #925 (isolation #97) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 5:47 pm

In post 918, ICEninja wrote:Wait so, do people believe the hider claim or are people just putting off lynching Wickan on the off chance he's actually a hider and dies during night phase?

A hider is a perfect scum fake claim. A cop is going to get shot, so a cop surviving the night is suspicious, A scum fake claiming hider could just claim to hide behind some random townie that scum is fine shooting the next night anyway.

If we do want to give him a chance on the off-chance that he's ACTUALLY a hider, I'm really only wanting to lynch Titus. Maaaaybe Simple Plan, but that's only if we really aren't going to lynch Titus.

Since I've never played with a hider before, can someone explain to me the idea behind this hider pool? It seems like if he hides behind scum we have a lynch pool of 3 people which isn't terrible, and it reduces the risk of scum killing 2 townies with one bullet. How do we pick who to put in the pool? Titus is literally the last person I want picking the people.

We're really trusting him, though. If he "confirms" town, can we actually be confident it isn't a fake claim?

Whatever the case may be, lynching him would be a strategic mistake if he's telling the truth.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #927 (isolation #98) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 5:49 pm

In post 921, A Simple Plan wrote:P-edit: I might be willing to lynch RC based off of that post about 20 minutes ago. This tunnel is ridiculous.

Why is a tunnel scummy?

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #929 (isolation #99) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 5:54 pm

Weak vote.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #930 (isolation #100) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 5:58 pm

VOTE: Taly

This is the vote I'm most confident in.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #944 (isolation #101) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 7:48 am

We vote out Taly.

Albert B. Rampage · Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:07 am

In post 937, Taly wrote:Last interaction I had concerning you was that I said I wasn't getting any answers or engagements, and now I'm re-voted.

I've learned to not get into one on one discussions with wordy players in the habit of posting walls. Replying to you isn't worth it.

Albert B. Rampage · Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:08 am

Taly. 100%.

Albert B. Rampage · Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:16 am

I don't argue with scum. My job is to convince everyone else to vote you, not to win a battle of words with you and pat myself on the back.

Albert B. Rampage · Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:27 am

You have one vote on you and you're completely freaking out as if you're getting lynched, already talking about your flip and threatening me. The way you're defensive and blowing my single vote on you out of proportion is exactly what I anticipated from your behavior. You're finished in this town.

Albert B. Rampage · Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:41 am

All it takes...is a little push.

Albert B. Rampage · Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:55 am

Link?

Albert B. Rampage · Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:20 pm

Dude after he put Wickan at L-1, all he's done is complain about me and make useless comments like "why wouldn't you be scum RC?"

He's basically given up after Wickan didn't happen.

This is scum.

Albert B. Rampage · Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:33 pm

In post 970, Taly wrote:I said "why wouldn't you be wagoned" - I was prompting him to provide reasons against him already instead of shutting down, firing at people, and saying to either "lynch me or titus" which is not only a dichotomy that's bad enough, the approach was seriously unhelpful.

And yet you vote for Titus.

Your play unravels the moment the Wickan wagon dissipated. That's why I'm voting you.

Albert B. Rampage · Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:39 pm

You can fool Johnny but you can't fool me.

Albert B. Rampage · Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:44 pm

In post 968, JohnnyFarrar wrote:I mean as much as you could call anything he's doing a 'push' those are similar I guess. Content wise there's way more 'WHY ISN'T ANYONE LISTENING TO ME' this game which strikes me as something someone who hides as scum would avoid doing

Johnny has generously given you the key ingredient to him townreading you, please keep sprinkling in how no one is reading your walls so you can appear more town.

Why stop at a sprinkle just break the container open and pour it all in, order some more of it on Amazon, Fedex it overnight, keep pouring that shit in like it's cement between your walls.

Albert B. Rampage · Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:48 pm

I would hate to get lynched as scum too Taly. I wonder if you will keep those stats in your signature after we take that zero losses as scum away.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #983 (isolation #113) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 1:03 pm

My point is that your momentum has evaporated since Wickan's bandwagon dissipated.

You make useless filler comments, you're not pushing your suspects from before (wickan, Titus, me, ASP). You look like you're living in the past. What have you done for the past couple pages? Are you waiting it out to see where the wind blows? That's what it seems like to me.

We are both mutually done talking to each other. It's high time for the others to weigh in, because I'm not clogging up the thread with responses to your powerpoint presentations anymore.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #985 (isolation #114) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 1:08 pm

I'm not infuriated, I just play aggressively. It's more fun. We have to find ways to enjoy the games we play, right?

People from the site say that they imagine me writing posts with a smile on my face after they met me.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #987 (isolation #115) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 1:17 pm

Sorry, I only had a small window of time and was working like crazy. I'll be back in the west coast next year!

Albert B. Rampage · Thu Dec 10, 2015 7:06 am

VOTE: Talah

Albert B. Rampage · Thu Dec 10, 2015 7:23 am

That's it.

Albert B. Rampage · Thu Dec 10, 2015 7:27 am

How about we don't give the scum a roadmap on who to NK amd try to mislynch? It's completely antitown.

Albert B. Rampage · Thu Dec 10, 2015 7:34 am

Pref: Talah
Wont lynch: rc, titus, wickan

Albert B. Rampage · Thu Dec 10, 2015 9:37 am

In post 1051, JohnnyFarrar wrote:>not on the list

You don't do anything.

Albert B. Rampage · Thu Dec 10, 2015 9:37 am

ASP is a lazy vote.

Albert B. Rampage · Thu Dec 10, 2015 10:09 am

It's a better compromise lynch than ASP.

Albert B. Rampage · Thu Dec 10, 2015 10:12 am

A) I doubt two scum voted two town players twice

B) Taly who I think is scum is not voting Talah

Albert B. Rampage · Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:09 pm

In post 988, ICEninja wrote:40 pages in...still no lynch...I see nothing worth sheeping on the ABR vs. Taly 1v1. Johnny is probably the only player I trust enough to sheep and he's against lynching my main scum read, so I don't even know what to do right now.

Scum somehow managed to get us talking in circles like crazy, this is insane. I somehow feel like there HAS to be scum in one of the active players because I feel like town is rarely this fragmented. ASP seems like a good bet as scum if town really is this fragmented/being distracted heavily by scum.

I still want
ANYONE other than Titus
to be the one to decide on the hider pool.

In post 1061, ICEninja wrote:Jesus wtf is this game. Every day it gets harder and harder to read this and care about it at all. I've played entire games shorter than this 1 day.

I'm not voting talah (wtf is this wagon out of nowhere), Johnny, I'm still pretty damn confident Wickan is scum but I guess that lynch isn't happening today.

Unvote, Vote A Simple Plan
. Not gonna see talah lynched today, Titus seems to not be happening. If Johnny convinces me to move my vote I will but
just fucking lynch someone
this is so dumb.

These two posts give me really bad feelings.

Albert B. Rampage · Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:16 pm

In post 1065, Taly wrote:Back from school; I did some research on my game with talah, a player self-voted as town and it almost fucked us all over: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=60902 - we were both town.

ISOed her in that game and found this:

talah wrote:Don't self-vote as town ever, no matter how tempting it might be.

>For anyone who wants to say I fabricated this; ISO her yourself and read the first part of post 1833. page 74. http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... start=1825

This is stretchy, but meta and instinct tell me that talah's self-vote wasn't coming from a town mindset - and tbh, I never read self-votes as town in the first place.

In post 1034, talah wrote:So it's well after bedtime, so night.

But I'm really intrigued that either of you see my self-vote given my will-vote won't vote as a "fuck you have at it lol". So anyway if you want to grab that wagon go for it.

Incidentally Taly don't add shit to the survey. Current problem is we have too much diversity. I want won't vote and one single vote. TIA.

Aside from that^^ and meta contradictions, the fact that talah then says that it's 'intriguing' that we recognized and then prods us to a wagon doesn't sit well with me.

And if her self-vote wasn't meant for anything much at all compared to the wagon she jumped off of for no reason; then why didn't she bring it back the post after or explain it? It looks like an agenda was there.

Trusting some people on the wagon more, and the only major posting talah has done in this game was in the first few pages, she hasn't been pushed much at all and I feel like she's also gone under the radar. The intervals she posts about doesn't make since with the content at hand.

(Basically her posting 2-3 days apart between her engagements - ever since December 4th, which was not even a week until after the game began. Which would make sense from scum not wanting to do much when the chat was cut off 3 days in.)

VOTE: talah

This is putting talah to L-1 including her own vote. I doubt she'll keep it on at this point, but I'd like any sort of intent to hammer at this point before a lynch occurs if another vote is put on if talah unvotes.

I want to see this flip, I'm becoming increasingly sure of talah being scum.

In post 1037, Frozen Angel wrote:Won't lynch:

Wickan [5] {Titus, talah, Johnny, Taly,Frozen}
Jonnhy [4] {Titus, talah, Taly,Frozen}
ABR [1] {Titus}
talah [1] {Titus}
Titus [3] {talah, Johnny, Taly}
Taly [2] {talah, Johnny}
RC [1] {Frozen}

Preference for lynch - nominate ONE only:

talah [1] {Frozen}
Ice [1] {Titus}
ASP [3] {talah, Johnny, Taly}

you mean this list ^ ?

Don't think the list is entirely necessary at this point, I'm getting an "ewww" vibe that talah only put Ice and SP as options for a preferred lynch.

Namely, my vote signifies that I don't want an SP lynch as opposed to a talah here.

ICEninja wrote:Jesus wtf is this game. Every day it gets harder and harder to read this and care about it at all. I've played entire games shorter than this 1 day.

I'm not voting talah (wtf is this wagon out of nowhere), Johnny, I'm still pretty damn confident Wickan is scum but I guess that lynch isn't happening today.

Unvote, Vote A Simple Plan
. Not gonna see talah lynched today, Titus seems to not be happening. If Johnny convinces me to move my vote I will but
just fucking lynch someone
this is so dumb.

Yeah.... Wickan should either hide behind you or SP tonight.... (Assuming that the claim is true, which feels dismissive to not make a plan revolving around it yet.)

You go on and on about "just fucking lynching someone," but then you don't see talah being lynched, say you don't want your vote there, and then say that the wagon came out of nowhere... And you say that Johnny should convince you to move YOUR vote.

This is deteriorating my townread on you. Fast.

This is a brilliant post.

Albert B. Rampage · Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:16 pm

Everyone should read it. Twice.

Albert B. Rampage · Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:24 pm

This game is easier than I thought lol

Albert B. Rampage · Fri Dec 11, 2015 7:53 am

Just vote Talah guys. The game is stalling for no other reason than you not voting Talah.

Albert B. Rampage · Fri Dec 11, 2015 7:58 am

Because voting Talah will end the day. Asp can get replaced. He's not posted in awhile.

Albert B. Rampage · Fri Dec 11, 2015 8:00 am

In post 1142, Wickan wrote:^That's a terrible reason. C'mon, you can do better.

Says the guy with intent to hammer 3 pages ago.

I don't give a fuck anymore.

Vote Talah. I'm not moving my vote anymore.

Albert B. Rampage · Fri Dec 11, 2015 8:02 am

The irony of this game is that the people who feel like the game isn't moving are the ones who aren't voting main wagons.

Albert B. Rampage · Fri Dec 11, 2015 8:03 am

Abandon your solo wagons and vote talah.

I'm done.

Albert B. Rampage · Fri Dec 11, 2015 8:06 am

ASP and Wickan make yourselves useful.

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Dec 12, 2015 7:14 am

Do we have enough votes for ASP?

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Dec 12, 2015 7:21 am

Talah is the better lynch imo.

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Dec 12, 2015 7:25 am

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Dec 12, 2015 7:27 am

What do you mean if RC supports her case?

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Dec 12, 2015 7:31 am

You know RC is listed as male right?

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Dec 12, 2015 7:32 am

You're saying if RC supports RC's case, I read that as if RC supports Talah's case.

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Dec 12, 2015 7:53 am

I'm zoning out a bit on this game. I'll be back tonight.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:05 am

I still don't want to vote ASP. We lynch Talah and end the day.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:06 am

I don't want to vote Jeanne either, or RC, or Titus, stop bandwagonning everybody, Taly stop screwing around with your vote, let's finish this.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:23 am

At this point I would rather vote Johnny he's been the most overwhelming contributing factor to this day stalling.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:37 am

My standards are high, so high that I won't lynch anyone but Talah today.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:59 am

You are wrong and you can't be helped.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Dec 14, 2015 11:00 am

In post 1366, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Why is Talah scum?

We've talked for 50 pages why don't you go look back instead of making the post count climb some more.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Dec 14, 2015 11:01 am

Jeanne did you really read the thread. It's ok if you say you didn't.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Dec 14, 2015 11:07 am

Haha no. I'm done.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Dec 14, 2015 11:32 am

Titus help.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Dec 14, 2015 11:37 am

You're hopeless. You have no potential to become a good scumhunter. I'm sorry.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Dec 14, 2015 12:38 pm

I'm bored...I'm thinking about replacing out like Ice. This game is going nowhere. Saturday is too far for a deadline. I'm out of patience.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Dec 14, 2015 12:45 pm

Talah today, Jeanne tomorrow.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Dec 14, 2015 12:48 pm

Jeanne is terrible, and Ice was scummy during parts of the day, but I 100% relate to why he would replace out as town. As scum, he wasn't getting bandwagoned at the time, he could have just sat on his ass and laugh at the town racking up pages. That's why I'm sticking to talah.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Dec 14, 2015 12:54 pm

In post 1400, Jeanne11 wrote:Here's to Titus, who wants me lynched because I have the same opinion as her.

Ice has always been her #1 lynch, did you read the thread or not?

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Dec 14, 2015 12:58 pm

In post 1396, Titus wrote:
In post 1392, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Talah today, Jeanne tomorrow.

ABR's we aren't getting a lynch because we disagree so much. 2 or 3 people want each lynch. Someone has to give. I feel Talah is town.

"Something has to give" you haven't been flexible since page 10. You've had the same reads for the past 2 weeks.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Dec 14, 2015 1:00 pm

Talah went on VLA I'm not going to move my vote from her, that's what you guys seem not to understand.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Dec 14, 2015 1:06 pm

In post 1412, Titus wrote:I am fine with an ASP lynch. Prefer you.

Johnny and Wickan, help me here?

You and Johnny have been floating ASP for the whole game and I'm not down for that. This Jeanne lynch is another bullshit low hanging fruit "compromise lynch" that you're both pushing for again. No.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Dec 14, 2015 1:14 pm

In post 1417, Jeanne11 wrote:You sure? Cos you seem awfully eager despite us having the same opinions. You afraid I could go after you next?

She wanted to lynch Ice for 50 pages, you replacing into the slot changes nothing, stop saying she's loopu, it's clear you don't have an understanding of what's going on. I'm not even trying to influence you I just want you to read the game. Titus will always want to lynch your slot and there's nothing shocking about that to every other player in this game. Replacements don't erase their slots history, deal with it.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Dec 14, 2015 1:15 pm

In post 1418, JohnnyFarrar wrote:
Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 1412, Titus wrote:I am fine with an ASP lynch. Prefer you.

Johnny and Wickan, help me here?

You and Johnny have been floating ASP for the whole game and I'm not down for that. This Jeanne lynch is another bullshit low hanging fruit "compromise lynch" that you're both pushing for again. No.
You're on town, that shit is worse

Do I KNOW talah is scum? No. But I would feel a hell of a lot better seeing a flip here than with ASP or Jeanne.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Dec 14, 2015 1:17 pm

Taly is my top townread after Wickan...

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Dec 14, 2015 1:20 pm

I already laid out my arguments why I don't want to lynch you or RC day one. We are this town's best chance to win you're town.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Dec 14, 2015 1:20 pm

EBWOO

If town* not you're town

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Dec 14, 2015 1:25 pm

Three scum in a ten player game only works if it's nightless...you know better than this...

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Dec 14, 2015 1:29 pm

I've changed my reads over the course of the game after putting pressure on a lot of players. I haven't been unflexible, I disagree. Look, you've had the same old reads and the same old pushes this entire game. It's you, it's not me.

I respect your game. You're usually good at finding scum. It's your townreads I have an issue with. I don't have a townread on Johnny. But you want to lynch RC because RC was tunneling on you.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Dec 14, 2015 1:31 pm

In post 1430, A Simple Plan wrote:How about this- it's been almost sixty pages. Town has enough info for this day phase, and I'm sick and fucking tired of it. If y'all wanna lynch me, go right the hell ahead- you won't gain nearly as much info from my lynch as you would others (Might I interest you in that ICE/Jeanne slot? Or I'll even compromise with Frozen Angel. The pool is literally myself, Jeanne, Frozen Angel, and RC in my eyes.) but it'll end this eternal day phase and actually do SOMEthing.

No, I'm not satisfied, from me to you, your plays has been terrible. Why can't you or Titus or anyone see that Talah can be scum???

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Dec 14, 2015 1:34 pm

VOTE: RC

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Dec 14, 2015 1:55 pm

Wickan.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Dec 14, 2015 2:00 pm

RC, what are your reads on ASP Frozen and Jean?

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Dec 14, 2015 2:02 pm

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Dec 14, 2015 2:05 pm

Who else is still online?

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Dec 14, 2015 2:06 pm

UNVOTE:

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Dec 14, 2015 2:07 pm

Dude you're still alive and Johnmy can't hammer you.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Dec 14, 2015 2:07 pm

You're confirmed town now.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Dec 14, 2015 2:08 pm

In post 1458, Wickan wrote:
Unvote

Checking mod count for a sec

Jeanne switched to ASP.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Dec 14, 2015 2:11 pm

That was a terrible idea. We just got fucking lucky.

Now we lynch talah, alright?

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Dec 14, 2015 2:13 pm

VOTE: talah

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Dec 14, 2015 2:16 pm

Wickan it needs to be talah.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Dec 14, 2015 2:17 pm

Wickan fucking do something you've been tunneling on RC all fucking day instead of picking a side, I'm tired of your fucking waffling

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Dec 14, 2015 2:18 pm

Thank you.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Dec 14, 2015 2:20 pm

In post 1488, Titus wrote:We could do an FA or ASP wagon

No. You're done. This lynch is happening and there's nothing you or Johnny can do.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Dec 14, 2015 2:21 pm

Titus. Be on the right side of history.

Albert B. Rampage · Tue Dec 15, 2015 11:22 am

In post 1525, Titus wrote:The massive reluctance RC has to voting Talah when Taly Talah was one of her scumteams is telling. She was willing to vote herself to end the day, yet when the wagon forms on Talah, RC suddenly isn't willing to vote there.

It's not strong given no flips here.

Of course this could be a lynch because Titus won't vote town move.

There's nothing for us to talk about until you unvote yourself.

Albert B. Rampage · Tue Dec 15, 2015 11:46 am

Albert B. Rampage · Tue Dec 15, 2015 11:47 am

Not sure if Jeanne just bussed talah or what the hell just happened.

Albert B. Rampage · Tue Dec 15, 2015 11:48 am

Wickan do you know your pool?

Albert B. Rampage · Tue Dec 15, 2015 11:50 am

RC wanted Titus in Wickan's pool?

Albert B. Rampage · Tue Dec 15, 2015 11:52 am

Well to be fair, RC wants Wickan to only check Titus.

Albert B. Rampage · Tue Dec 15, 2015 11:56 am

In post 1559, talah wrote:Well that's some horse-shit, Taly.

I'm town as stated.

FA hasn't commented on either of the other self-votes, and Jeanne is confirmed scum.

---
Anyway at least now I get the rest of my break in peace without just vaguely following along.
Good luck town!

Jeanne is getting lynched, no question.

In post 1560, JohnnyFarrar wrote:My other townreads are Taly and Bells, would either of those be better?

p-edit: be at peace if you're town, Talah.

We really need Wickan here. There's no point if he doesn't respect the pool.

Albert B. Rampage · Fri Dec 18, 2015 12:06 pm

This is my fault. I take all the responsibility for Talah yesterday. I've made mistakes.

VOTE: Jeanne

Albert B. Rampage · Fri Dec 18, 2015 12:10 pm

In post 1568, Taly wrote:^^ Is that L-1? There's only like. 7 people left....

Jeanne are you going to claim?

Albert B. Rampage · Fri Dec 18, 2015 12:13 pm

I don't remember your play being this bad as town.

Albert B. Rampage · Fri Dec 18, 2015 12:31 pm

I played horribly this game. I acted more confident than I was with my reads, and it backfired on me. I'm not going to apologize, this is what I do every game and more often than not it pays off. I'm not going to change my playstyle. Do I deserve to be lynched here, probably.

Albert B. Rampage · Fri Dec 18, 2015 12:32 pm

In post 1576, Taly wrote:ABR/Johnny - Do you guys believe in a Titus/Jean scumpair?

I don't know.

Albert B. Rampage · Fri Dec 18, 2015 12:33 pm

In post 1580, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Who else was saying I wasn't doing anything? Was it Al?

I said Wickan wasn't doing anything.

Albert B. Rampage · Fri Dec 18, 2015 12:44 pm

Titus would string me along as scum, she knows I can't read her. Asking for my flip after Jeanne is uncharacteristic of good scum strategy imo.

Albert B. Rampage · Fri Dec 18, 2015 1:38 pm

In post 1591, Titus wrote:
In post 1582, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I played horribly this game. I acted more confident than I was with my reads, and it backfired on me. I'm not going to apologize, this is what I do every game and more often than not it pays off. I'm not going to change my playstyle. Do I deserve to be lynched here, probably.

I know that's your style. Doesn't it bother you that no one wanted your head today?

It's a welcome surprise. I want to win.

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Dec 20, 2015 11:17 am

In post 504, Titus wrote:
In post 495, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Titus are you going to take over this game, or do I have to, because RC is either scum or misguided.

I will let you. Any RC read I put forth she'll spin as drama. You me and Wickan have the same reads.

Titus has been extremely sure of her townreads this game, talah, johnny, wickan, and me. Rock solid confidence.

I keep going back to this quote.

She let me drive the bandwagons instead of leading herself with her super confidence.

It makes me wonder why she would do that.

I was wrong on talah, wrong on jeanne, wrong on RC.

RC's speedwagon is all flipped town, me, and Titus.

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Dec 20, 2015 11:21 am

Do you think Wickan was hiding behind Titus, Jeanne, or ASP?

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Dec 20, 2015 11:23 am

In post 472, ICEninja wrote:Yeah this day is getting pointless. Things are being said over and over again. A couple of people have attempted to interact with me, but most of it just looks like repeated stuff, rehashing, etc. that's starting to drown us in circular logic. I'm finding it harder and harder to not skim at this point.

I need a show of hands.
Everyone, please
. Who ABSOLUTELY REFUSES to vote Wickan today? Who, regardless of it being your preference or not, is
at least
ALRIGHT seeing Wickan lynched today? My vote has been parked on this dude for well over 10 pages now and I've got a pretty strong read for a day 1 read.

I'm fine voting Titus if I can't get a few more votes on Wickan. Barring those two, I'm not particularly happy with any lynch, but in order to avoid a NL I'd vote Simple Plan, ABR, maybe FA? I'm townreading talah and Johnny, and leaning town on RC and Taly.

Then there's also this.