erm... you do know he hasn't posted since day one.. Drone posted after him to give you an idea of how long its been since the last time he posted in this thread. but he has posted else where on the forums today so.. im thinking he is actively avoiding talking. and given that the mod didn't prod when I made him aware its been 4 days since his last post we can also add that he is taking night actions else he would been poked.In post 2726, MortFeld wrote:Yeah I was just saying we don't agree on everything.
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incase your looking, his last post was on page 85 (approx 375 posts ago)In post 2727, Naomi-Tan wrote:
erm... you do know he hasn't posted since day one.. Drone posted after him to give you an idea of how long its been since the last time he posted in this thread. but he has posted else where on the forums today so.. im thinking he is actively avoiding talking. and given that the mod didn't prod when I made him aware its been 4 days since his last post we can also add that he is taking night actions else he would been poked.In post 2726, MortFeld wrote:Yeah I was just saying we don't agree on everything.
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If you look he has been posting else where though his last post was at 1am so... maybe he isn't around but that wouldn't explain why no posts D2 when he was around and posting then.Naomi ~ ☠ ♠ ♣ ⦿ ✿ ♡ §-
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he didn't post for the entirety of day two.. his last post was on day 1, there are 4 dead players who have posted after he has which is just bad.In post 2730, MortFeld wrote:It says the last time he posted on the forum was yesterday, about 14 hours ago. Which was during night.Naomi ~ ☠ ♠ ♣ ⦿ ✿ ♡ §-
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True but...
Nero Cain Nov 08, 10:06am Nov 19, 02:21pm 5 days 1 hour 48
Given his last post was nearly a week ago.. and that he submitted night actions (as he would of been proded for inactivity otherwise given that would been over 48 hours) I can only assume that he submitted a nk
Like I would over look no posts today but he also didn't post D2 at all. which wasn't a holiday at all. not even an L/VA notifaction. just poof.Naomi ~ ☠ ♠ ♣ ⦿ ✿ ♡ §-
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Click my wiki button I update it with all my games so you can read back. though I have yet to be red since returning to the website.In post 2746, Nero Cain wrote:I'd love to hear them since I know they are wrong and I'd like the chance to explain why they are wrong. Though TBH, town is so far ahead that my mislynch wouldn't matter much but lynching town is and always will be stupid.Naomi ~ ☠ ♠ ♣ ⦿ ✿ ♡ §-
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... No my push of Nero had nothing to do with activity until later. Not sure why you'd spin it that way. My oringal arguement is that Yourself and mort and the power roles are green and out of the 3, both shadow and RK had pushes on them by reds which leaves Nero as the only viable target.In post 2756, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I'm a VT. Let's not self destruct. Here.
Arc:Why the hell didn't you stick with the plan? There was no reason for you to jail rb and if you would have simply done what we had asked we would've had a smaller lynch pool for today. You can't even tell us why you somehow thought he was the last scum. We proved you wrong Day 1 and you still doubted us. Unbelievable.
Naomi:Your push on Nero was awful. Activity is NAI and will continue to be until the end of time. You've also been acting like you're confirmed town lately and that's starting to not sit well with me.
Everyone:I'm leaning toward lynching RK, jailing Naomi, and cop on one of me/Mort/Nero. If there is still a kill we know it's either Nero/Mort or Shadow.
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or no shot to confuse your theory.In post 2757, Naomi-Tan wrote:
... No my push of Nero had nothing to do with activity until later. Not sure why you'd spin it that way. My oringal arguement is that Yourself and mort and the power roles are green and out of the 3, both shadow and RK had pushes on them by reds which leaves Nero as the only viable target.In post 2756, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I'm a VT. Let's not self destruct. Here.
Arc:Why the hell didn't you stick with the plan? There was no reason for you to jail rb and if you would have simply done what we had asked we would've had a smaller lynch pool for today. You can't even tell us why you somehow thought he was the last scum. We proved you wrong Day 1 and you still doubted us. Unbelievable.
Naomi:Your push on Nero was awful. Activity is NAI and will continue to be until the end of time. You've also been acting like you're confirmed town lately and that's starting to not sit well with me.
Everyone:I'm leaning toward lynching RK, jailing Naomi, and cop on one of me/Mort/Nero. If there is still a kill we know it's either Nero/Mort or Shadow.
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To explain my Push on nero in full;
there are 9 alive, with 1 red.
RB is confirmed Town by JK (1 green, 8 undecided)
Power roles found red (3 green, 6 Undecided)
I don't see mort or Lil Uzi Vert as red (5 Green, 4 Undecided)
I know im not red (6 Green, 3 undecided)
RK and Shadow had Red flipped players pushing for their lynches (8 green 1 undecided)
1 undecided must be red, Red!Nero
Additional things that support it include that neither flipped red did any major pushing on nero.
That they didn't post much (even if they did post enough not to get a prod)
and they claimed another VT role.
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not really puts us on a MYLO rather than a LYLO which puts more power in reds hands imo and adds another element to the last day (making it 3 on 1 instead of 2 on 1, its easier to convince 1 person out of 3 than 1 person out of 2 (This is assuming that when you hit 50% of players it counts not above 50% in which case Mylo is better for us anyway))In post 2759, MortFeld wrote:If scum don't shoot and we lynch a townie because of it, isn't that still good for town?Naomi ~ ☠ ♠ ♣ ⦿ ✿ ♡ §-
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they didn't but they did push Creeps20 who they replaced.In post 2762, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:@Naomi:I didn't understand much of your earlier point and only really got the latter part about prods and activity. Thanks for clarifying.
The problem with your theory is that you're assuming that Shadow and RK are town. Drone and Toto if I recall correctly never pushed Shadow but as for the slot overall I would have to double check. Drone made a case for RK but didn't really push it much and awkwardly hopped off to TF if I'm recalling correctly. You're right that neither pushed Nero though but I don't think it's that simple.
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same for misa which RK replacedIn post 2769, Naomi-Tan wrote:
they didn't but they did push Creeps20 who they replaced.In post 2762, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:@Naomi:I didn't understand much of your earlier point and only really got the latter part about prods and activity. Thanks for clarifying.
The problem with your theory is that you're assuming that Shadow and RK are town. Drone and Toto if I recall correctly never pushed Shadow but as for the slot overall I would have to double check. Drone made a case for RK but didn't really push it much and awkwardly hopped off to TF if I'm recalling correctly. You're right that neither pushed Nero though but I don't think it's that simple.
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In post 2762, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:@Naomi:I didn't understand much of your earlier point and only really got the latter part about prods and activity. Thanks for clarifying.
The problem with your theory is that you're assuming that Shadow and RK are town. Drone and Toto if I recall correctly never pushed Shadow but as for the slot overall I would have to double check. Drone made a case for RK but didn't really push it much and awkwardly hopped off to TF if I'm recalling correctly. You're right that neither pushed Nero though but I don't think it's that simple.
As for my theory, yeah scum could choose to no kill but that doesn't really help them in the long run as that's just giving town more time and chances to weed the last scum out.
What gimick you talking about here?In post 2800, MortFeld wrote:Besides, the gimmick isn't even detracting from gameplay. I'm still trying to find scum the old fashioned way.
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You cannot deny your activity was lagging. weather or not it required a poke you still didn't post for the entirety of D2. like when all the dead players posted after your last post. you've done something wrong regardless if it is poke-accepted or not.In post 2818, Nero Cain wrote:still not sold on Naomi being town after she basically admitted to pushing a bullshit argument.Naomi ~ ☠ ♠ ♣ ⦿ ✿ ♡ §-
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I can't quote games that are active.In post 2826, Nero Cain wrote:
I wasn't here during d2 and I kinda have to be online to post. Who also claimed that IIn post 2824, Naomi-Tan wrote:
You cannot deny your activity was lagging. weather or not it required a poke you still didn't post for the entirety of D2. like when all the dead players posted after your last post. you've done something wrong regardless if it is poke-accepted or not.In post 2818, Nero Cain wrote:still not sold on Naomi being town after she basically admitted to pushing a bullshit argument.WAShere posting on d2 and Mort asked you to post links, did you ever do that?Naomi ~ ☠ ♠ ♣ ⦿ ✿ ♡ §-
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I can however, post to post game posts XDIn post 2576, keyenpeydee wrote:
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you know what I don't care about the activity thing. It was only to convince the last people to vote for you because I want this game to end and by my POE your the last Red. Regardless of activity and all you've done is focused on my flawed argument that at a glace looks right, which is all I did. because when you go to activity overveiw and see someone on 5 days 1 hour my first thoughts are this is game avoidance. And when I saw a post on the 22nd I was like; yup they was posting else where. the fact that I had to go down to time stamps is a thing that I didn't do because at the time I felt you was red and ignoring the thread and I didn't care and still don't about you because your the last red and I want you flipped and if your not red then Im gonna die tomorrow for railroading so damn hard. and if you convince them to kill me you'll be dead tomorrow as everyone rail roads your ass for flipping a green as a last resort.Naomi ~ ☠ ♠ ♣ ⦿ ✿ ♡ §-
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Im not sure if this'll fly for the rest of town but I'm gonna try it so here is another thing that may prove nero!red or me dumb. So; If you guys was in nero's position. Where you know there is one red left and one of the players focused you HARD, Like unreasonablly hard. Would you think they are
A) A Red Looking to get a kill on a green with reckless abadon that will only kill themselves and end the game if they are red the next day as its not in lylo.
or B) A Green who is convinced they know who the last red is
i feel that A) is not a thing that can really come from a green motive (as thats what nero selected) I think their vote is another red tell...
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On that note. should Nero flip Green. please for the love of god. Jail me and cop me.
Jailing me will stop me being killed, and prevent me taking the kill
Copping me will prove im green.
If the cop dies. the jailer prooves im green.
and my miss guided hardcore push can be put upto being dumb town as in that situation there is 100% no chance of me being a red. (as strong man is dead so can't even break the PR to confirm if I was red strongman) with Cop alone. They might be killed. with jailor alone reds might no kill so you guys lynch me. this is the only way to confirm my alignment without any doubt.
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Shit. Yeah okay thats a not great idea >_<
I just remembered that God farther is a thing.. I hope to god there isn't one in this setup.. as it would make our cop even more ineffective.. but If there is one I feel that we would be fucked.. while my double check system does confirm any green as town. it would also fully confirm a god father as town.. the only hint to them not being that alignment being a no shot result.. I guess you could call that a god farther flag but if it is done that way.. the only way to tell would be to lynch me.. I only bring this up as I am kinda worried that that may be a thing .. okay.. I think I might be a wee bit over sleepy and just typing non-sense.. I need to sleep before I end up saying something REALLY dumb or getting angry.. sorry for spaming the thread this late.Naomi ~ ☠ ♠ ♣ ⦿ ✿ ♡ §-
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Are you saying that Nero focused you hard, and that Nero is "A Red Looking to get a kill on a green with reckless abandon"? Or are you saying that Nero thinks you are A Red Looking to get a kill on a green with reckless abandon?
Im saying that its the latter here, but that view point doesn't line up with it being non-lylo (8 to 1) as if nero does flip green i'm pretty much killed myself and I think from a town perspective that would be kinda obvious. The fact they omgus'd and tried to convince others to lynch me rather than trying to convince me to drop where I'm going seems like a red move.. if you think about his motives for voting me its. They pushed me, and then got my idle times incorrect. Which both seem like kinda weak reasons.Naomi ~ ☠ ♠ ♣ ⦿ ✿ ♡ §-
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Yes that is my argument.
6.5 Isn't Circular as Nero hasn't tunneled Nearly as hard as I have. I been pushing them so hard that its obvious that Im not it and am convinced more than anything they are red. While there push on me has been limp at best (being an OMGUS and You got timings wrong)
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well he did put a bit of shade my way heavily focusing on me getting the prod times wrong. also saying things like; shouldn't a player from a long time ago know this. Which kinda reads to me like he thought that he could turn the entire town on my Position given my Activity.In post 2857, MortFeld wrote:As 6.5 is stated it is circular.
Basically the missing piece is that Nero does believe that you won't be lynched tomorrow. This is obvious based on his voting you instead of RK. As town, he would have no reason to believe this, since you have been pushing him all day. As scum, he has ample reason to believe this. If he dies, the game is over. Therefore, his push of you is definitely scummy.
It is odd that he's not voting RK. His case against you (as it stands) is bad. As either alignment, you'd think he'd get on his counterwagon.
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Just the way they did it. like quoting my experience despite only having less than a handful of games and stuff..In post 2859, MortFeld wrote:
Are you saying that Nero does think town will actually lynch you tomorrow if Nero is lynched and flips town? I don't get what this post is responding to.In post 2858, Naomi-Tan wrote: well he did put a bit of shade my way heavily focusing on me getting the prod times wrong. also saying things like; shouldn't a player from a long time ago know this. Which kinda reads to me like he thought that he could turn the entire town on my Position given my Activity.
And why do you characterize this as shade? It seems valid to me. 'Trying to turn town against __' is also a way of framing 'trying to convince town that __ is scum,' which is something both town and scum do.
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I anit shifting my vote :I they are either lynched or greens will out vote me.In post 2876, ArcAngel9 wrote:In post 2873, MortFeld wrote:
Probably Nero, if not Nero then RK. Very long ball on Naomi.In post 2872, rb wrote:mort who are we voting today?
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So... if im correct.. your VI?In post 2878, ArcAngel9 wrote:I don't care what you do. You are you village idiot.Naomi ~ ☠ ♠ ♣ ⦿ ✿ ♡ §-
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and given there is 1 red left we know it must be the truth. which means currently we have;
2 PR's both that have had effective results in finding and stopping red.
2 Confirmed towns
4 unconfirmed.
MortFeld
Lil Uzi Vert
Naomi-Tan
Shadow_step rep. Creeps20
and if mort was jailed and flipped town it would bring us to 3 unconfirmed.
NK for 2 unconfirmed 3 confirmed 1 red
flip 1 unconfirmed, 3 confirmed 1red
NK 1 unconfirmed, 2 confirmed 1 red
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yeah but that'll take forever! given the two day down time inbetween.. going for one more cop is another week worth of waiting... and that kinda sucks..In post 2969, MortFeld wrote:Chaos copped me, yes. Chaos can still be scum, though this would have required a serious gambit not worth considering IMO until LYLO.
Continuing to jail Nero actually has a double purpose. Once Chaos cops everyone he either has to return a guilty result or we know he's scum. Once we lynch the guilty, if they flip town we know Chaos is scum.
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Well. if we get in trouble then we can delay. but right now we got 3 lynches before lose. so even if nero isn't red we will still get the time later to look into everyone. The whole Delaying till we win strat is valid but... long and time consuming. It seems like your letting fear control you. sometimes you just gotta trust evidence to do things.. like If you did that idea. it would take us till day 11 to do it. which given the 2 day down time would take us around about a 3 weeks if we did it with zero up time. so realistically its gonna be about a month. Which is really lame. Like.. its really frustrating for me as I worked out the red nero on the last day and its not happened. which is bleuh. I just want this game to resolve.. there is nothing for me to examine right now just getting rid of the obvious final red... I don't like two active games so im frustrated at being prevented moving on.. I just want the last red gone so we can get onto other games.Naomi ~ ☠ ♠ ♣ ⦿ ✿ ♡ §-
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Lynch the asshole. the jailor prevented them taking a kill all the reds didn't push them and there lurky as fuck. JUST DO IT >_< I sware to god I'll kill myself if you don't >_< I'm not being held hostage in this game because you think all the reds not pushing them, them not contributing and no kill happening when there blocked isn't enough to go off of. I am not waiting 3 weeks to confirm everyone because your a chicken shit. fuck that. grow some balls and kill the guy the jailor has a positive on. >_<Naomi ~ ☠ ♠ ♣ ⦿ ✿ ♡ §-
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[0] rb -
[0] MortFeld - Naomi-Tan, ChaosOmega, Shadow_step
[0] Lil Uzi Vert -
[0] Naomi-Tan -
[0] ChaosOmega - ArcAngel9,
[0] Shadow_step -
Not Voting -Nero Cain, rb, Mortfeld, Lil Uzi Vert,
MOD NOTES: Day Four will end in December 8, 2016. No extensions unless needed.
With 8 Alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day Four will end in 6 days, 11 hours, 20 minutes
Okay mathing it out we don't need you or mort. just arc and RB and we can endNaomi ~ ☠ ♠ ♣ ⦿ ✿ ♡ §-
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