Mini 1415: Fairly Oddparents Mafia Game Over

[PeregrineV]

Booyah!

Vote: -L-

Where is the rest of your name?

[PeregrineV]

I like 9, but was only thinking person above night1, and then re-evaluating n2, but this works, as long as it works.

[PeregrineV]

I wish post 85 gets eaten by tigers.

[PeregrineV]

No restart.

Things are fine the way they are.

I guess the best question to ask is

@NumQ- How much coordination are we allowed to have/use?

[PeregrineV]

@Sanjay.... being obstinate is not cool.

I wish Ben was town.

@Ben

- Did it work?

pedit: True...lol

Vote: Zephyr

[PeregrineV]

@Sanjay.... being obstinate is not cool.

I wish Ben was town.

@Ben

- Did it work?

pedit: True...lol

Vote: Zephyr

Vote: Zephyr

[PeregrineV]

[PeregrineV]

Yes. This is a daywish so I know if I can listen to you or look for you to bus your scumteam.

[PeregrineV]

[no restart]

vote: peregrineV

twerp.

did you call me a twerp?

Vote: adorkable

[PeregrineV]

Hey Grine, what is your rolename?

Not sure I want to say. Why are you asking?

[PeregrineV]

Why not? I just thought it'd be interesting

I don't watch the show all the time, but isn't some teacher always after the fairies? I can imagine scum gaining something from picking off specific characters.

[PeregrineV]

We should claim our rolenames

I'm just not interested in a game where everyone just follows some list , I'll do it but I won't enjoy it.
I wanted spontaneous disorderly wish making

What is your rolename?

Why not? It doesn't hurt anything and I think it gives some extra spice to the game

Tell me your rolename then

No you haven't

Oh, he's Trixie

Alright, I'm Remy Buxaplenty, what are you, Sanjay?

So I'm assuming Sanjay is actually Sanjay, that's pretty funny

Can we NOT break the game and just play by our own rules. GOD that would be so cool

Imagine how awesome it would be everyone just wishing for whatever the fuck they want to wish for

If we have to go by some crappy list I am going to rebel and wish for something totally different

-L-, what do you think about Sanjay getting Sanjay as his rolename?

Also, post your freakin' rolenames

If there is Chad, Tad definitely has to be in this game, right?

You get an IMAGE of the kid you have in the PM, unless you are blind there is no way you could mistake black skin and white skin

Hey Grine, what is your rolename?

Why not? I just thought it'd be interesting

What is your rolename by the way

Remy - Me
Veronica- Kiwi
L-Francis
Sanjay - Sanjay
Tad - Zeph
Balrog - Trixie

Off the top of my head
Adorkable is probably Vickey

HD is AJ
Klick is Chester

Everyone else has yet to claim I think

Soooooo I'm assuming Timmy in this game?

Pretty weird if he wasn't

So no organizing wishes, but let's all massclaim our rolenames.

Wishes that allow us to do almost anything, including win the game are boring, but rolename discussion "gives extra spice"?

Don't want to "everyone just follows some list" about wishes, but hey, rolenames!!

How does that knowledge help you catch scum? And how is your insistence on it town?

Vote: Vifam

[PeregrineV]

Err

Fine. I'm willing to say that I may be wrong about PV.

Since PV is here, you can say why.

[PeregrineV]

Balrog: Do you still think Vifam is scum? (Is he bussing his buddy?)

Unfortunately, I'm not the best at telling dumb from scum when motive isn't clear.

Hey PV, I asked you a question.

Do you mean this?

Teacher =/= Kid

You keep rubbing me the wrong way. Any particular reason why you're choosing to act like this?

Assuming you didn't mean it rhetorically, then what are you talking about? Specifically.

[PeregrineV]

@Sanjay.... being obstinate is not cool.

I wish Ben was town.

@Ben

- Did it work?

pedit: True...lol

Vote: Zephyr

Do you have wishes?

You really want answers?
OK. Let's start with 2 Benmages.
There is town Benmage, and there is scum Benmage.
The two are different, but very similar. My best bet for finding out is from talking to you.

So here, I was expecting a response along the lines of wasting my wish, since you're already town. But, you asked if I have wishes. As scum, I say of course, but I'm lying. As town, I say of course because it's true. So, I took your question/reponse as snark, meaing you did not want to engage in direct conversation. This keeps my read on you at neutral.

Vote PV

you wanna wagon, wagon here.

Not sure what you want me to say. You hoping on a wagon is not alignment-defining for you.

This is where I'm at:
Town:
Human Destroyer
Balrog
Benmage
Klick
MrZephyr
Sanjay
Vifam

Slight town:
kiwieagle

Neutral:
adorkable

N/A
Seanald
captaineddie

Slight Scum:
-L-

Scum:
PeregrineV

I know your wrong on at least one, and think you are wrong on at least another. But hey, thanks for the list.

Enough Semantics.... Vote PV.

More posting that does not make YOU town or scum.

[PeregrineV]

PV, how would you rate the strength of that Vifam case?

At first it was annoying, but when I went back to read Vifam ISO, it became alarming. So, barring some rational explanation why coordinating wishes to win is no fun, but failing to nameclaim equals scum, I'm pretty convinced Vi is scum.

[PeregrineV]

I don't see the scum motivation from Vifam here.

Do you see town motivation?

[PeregrineV]

PV why have you still refused to nameclaim?

1. Because I want to know why it's important to Vi and to you.
2. Other stuff ongoing.

But, based on non-bastard mod post #1,

Setup:

10 people will receive this:

Role Name

Paragraph of flavor!

[-]

During the day, you may talk and vote.

[-]

You also have 2 Magic Muffins! You may use them to make wishes at night. See the thread for wish limitations.

[-]

You win when the Anti-Fairies are no longer a threat.

Game thread is here. Confirm via PM.

3 people will receive this:

Role Name

Paragraph of flavor!

[-]

You may talk to your partners at night here.

[-]

At night your faction may backfire one person’s wish, which reverses the wish’s effect. Your faction may also kill someone at night.

[-]

You win when the kids are no longer a threat, or nothing can prevent the same.

Game thread is here. Confirm via PM.

I'll claim. What's the worse that can happen?

Timmy Turner

Now you can explain why it's so relevant and why it's so important that Vi has done nothing else all game.

[PeregrineV]

@Balrog

- Can you group the players in groups of three, excluding yourself?

[PeregrineV]

@Captaineddie- Just want to point out that breaking the game with wishes and breaking the game based on names are all breaking the game.

And after being Harry Potter in Harry Potter mafia, I did not feel a strong desire to claim Timmy in Fairly Oddparents.

And adding spice is one thing, but pretty much every person was told to nameclaim, so it was not "just interesting". And if it's not scumhunting, then why devote 75% of your posts to name flavor?

[PeregrineV]

1. Who is to say we can't get anything out of nameclaiming, you're claiming that it's completely useless, but if there is even a chance we can get something, why not, why is it such a big deal to you?

Answered in 272.
And once again I will point out that each TOWN player has 2 wishes. You don't want to discuss the usefulness of them, but instead want nameclaims.

How does that knowledge help you catch scum?

2. I never said not nameclaiming automatically makes you scum, that's an obvious misrepresentation

This is true, you never said it.

3. Anyone that has played with me knows that I post in short bursts, so of course 75% of what I say is gonna be on the same topic at the very start of the game.

Would you say you expressed mild interest in the topic of nameclaims, or greater than mild, or less than mild?
And

How does that knowledge help you catch scum?

[PeregrineV]

For the record, I was referring to the question where I asked you what game on MTGS you played in. But you're welcome to answer my other question, as well, as it's pretty obvious when my questions are meant to be rhetorical. (Hint: That wasn't a rhetorical question.)

Oh yeah. I actually never got to play on MTGS. I signed up because a group came from the WOTC boards, but there wasn't enough room in the game PK set up. I tried to replace into other games, but was too slow. Since it was becoming another forum to check, I just stuck with the two I already have.

[PeregrineV]

In post 273, PeregrineV wrote:
@Balrog- Can you group the players in groups of three, excluding yourself?


Group them into what, exactly?

Groups of three players that can investigate each other tonight. We are allowed to organize, so having groups of three allows for pretty good coverage yet reduces the gamebreakiness of the first plan.

I would rather you choose the groups, since you are my strongest townread.

[PeregrineV]

Also Balrog I am not dumb, ur dumb, You are the dumb one. YOU are the one who is not intelligent

[PeregrineV]

Literally nothing confusing about that post

What Balrog post(s) triggered that?

[PeregrineV]

It's one thing to discuss all the cool stuff we could do with our muffins, you were talking about outright breaking the game. Sorry I didn't find that interesting. If the topic was "All the cool stuff we could do with our muffins" I wouldn't lash have out at anybody.


It doesn't help me "catch scum" but it's interesting, and if there is chance that it could help us find scum, again, why not? Your argument is basically "I don't think it's important so the fact that you're proposing it MUST mean your scum" when in fact, I don't think it's that important either. It was just fun to see what characters were in the game and it doesn't harm a thing

But you haven't mentioned this. What cool things are you going to wish for?

[PeregrineV]

I'm probably going to shoot you

Revolutionary!

I'll be wishing for PGOness.

pedit: I'll wish for day/night PGOness, or better yet, vengeful!

[PeregrineV]

I thought we weren't going to do that.

@NumQ- How much coordination are we allowed to have/use?

I never said you couldn't coordinate. It's the game breaking I don't like.

[PeregrineV]

Let's talk about our favorite episode.

Mine is Chin-Up, because the whole superhero with a superchin is funny, and it was the first episode I ever saw.

[PeregrineV]

So are people onto PV because they know his meta, and he's so ...random?

Just making the game more interesting.

[PeregrineV]

VOTE: balrog

Going with my gut on this one.

I didn't like the way he tried to lead the town and try to game it - although I tried to look for a clever loophole in his idea I did not find it (a loophole that would result in one backfire targeting multiple people). After that, his wording made me think he was jealous of townies' ability to make wishes. And this insight by another person about his votes on and off vifam make me do this.

You kind of missed the part where the mod changed the rules to avoid breaking the game based on Balrog's post.

While I congratulate Balrog on his clever plan, I'm sorry to say that no mod wants to see their game broken that easily. After careful consideration, I have decided to alter two rules.

First, the rule that allowed both wishes to be used in one night has been revoked. You may now only make one wish at night.

Second, and this is something that I was wrestling with since my initial plans of this setup, I'm going to give the mafia a slight buff. As of now, they can choose to either backfire OR kill each night. However, if they backfire, they can backfire 2 wishes. I feel this is a necessary change that hopefully balances the game a bit more.

PEdit: Human Destroyer, that is not allowed. Wishes cannot control the mod.

haha eat it Balrog

[PeregrineV]

Aw. The mod accidentally confirmed me as town. That's no fun.

That's just my opinion. Haven't seen anything yet to contradict that read.

[PeregrineV]

The answer should be clear, assuming you aren't assuming I'm an extremely silly person.

But, just in case:

Unvote

Vote: PV

You all can feel free to sheep me.

Especially Benmage.

Just want to be clear that your case on me is that you didn't like my case on Vifam, correct?

[PeregrineV]

I have some other reasons for voting for you too, though. Want to guess them?

You want to reduce the number of town wishes used against you and your buddies tonight.

[PeregrineV]

Yeah.

That it's fake as shit.

Really? So, where is Vifam?

Activity:
Tuesday- game opens- 68 posts
Wednesday- 23 posts
Thursday- 5 posts
Friday- 0 posts

QED: Kiss my ass.

[PeregrineV]

...

welp if we weren't already voting PV I'd be moving my vote right about now

You don't mean you've ridden your RVS vote all the way to now? And called Vifam town too. Good show!

[PeregrineV]

I assumed Vifam was dialing it back a bit since, legitimately, that's a pretty pro-town thing for him to do.

But I don't know, maybe he's out on dates with pretty girls who like his personality.

What does that have to do with your Vifam case being hella-artificial?

Did you read my case? If so, summarize what you think it was.

[PeregrineV]

^Its called deflection.

On with the Hanging!

Aren't you supposed to be buried in a snowdrift somewhere?

[PeregrineV]

who the fuck is your avatar of pere?

Dunno. Changed it for the Agency Mafia I'm modding.

[PeregrineV]

Pere, what does my activity have to do with anything

You were active when pushing your agenda after not wanting to talk about coordinating town wishes.

Once town planning was kaboshed, and you got the name claims you wanted, you stopped posting.

Apparently, the masses wish to confer sainthood on you for this type of play.

While the style is not preferable to me, it's more the topic and intensity which has vanished now that your desires have been fulfilled.

And you still never answered how any of it helps you catch scum. Because it doesn't, because you're not scumhunting.

[PeregrineV]

Except that's not true, I've been posting even AFTER the whole claim thing was put to rest, town planning essentially ended when the mod told us not to try and tamper the game, and I was definitely active after that. And I HAVE been scumhunting

Then lets hear what you found out.

[PeregrineV]

Back on page 20, but catching up today.

[PeregrineV]

-Case on Vifam is shit
-Case on Vifam is hypocritical

I feel like a broken record here.

Did you read my case? If so, summarize what you think it was.

First, you summarize what you think it is.
Then, I clarify if you are understanding me, or if you fully understand why I think he is scum.
Once we have established that my case is what we both think it is, then you can proceed to explain why my case is "shit".
I will relay back to you what I understand your reasons to be.
Once you acknowledge we both understand your reasons for thinking that, then I will respond to your reasons.
Then we do the same thing for "hypocritical".

[PeregrineV]

That doesn't explain how bad his case on me is, and the fact that he's been blatantly hypocritical and not even the least bit useful.

But lets lynch Balrog instead because he didn't continue his lynch on me that's a GREAT idea, Kiwi

I don't think hypocritical means what you think it means.

I'd have to be doing something that I'm calling you out for.

And if I am, and haven't been the "least bit useful", then, logically, you would not have been the least bit useful either.

Which you haven't, so this is kind of a funny response.

[PeregrineV]

my butt hurts

[PeregrineV]

If PV is scum, he's probably scum with PV by association.

Independently, I'd actually say he's more within the null-leaning-town range, as strange as that sounds.

You'll have to clear this up, as it makes no sense.

[PeregrineV]

I'm assuming in here somewhere you answered 468. So, let's to it.

But whatever,

let's talk about PeregrineV

:

The thing about Peregrine's Vifam case is not that it is bad. It's that it is fake. It's incidentally bad but that's beside the point. Why it is fake:

1. There is an inauthenticity to it in so far as the strength of the conclusion doesn't follow from the strength of the argument.

The strength of the conclusion: Vifam is scum
The strength of the argument: In looking for Vifam's scumhunting posts as opposed to nameclaim posts, I found where he did not wish to use town wishes to win.
More details on what you are trying to say here.

2. PeregrineV somehow both can't conceive of why someone would fluff post so much as town, and yet fluff posts himself.

So, you admit that Vifam had fluff posts.
You claim I have posted fluff.
Which posts of mine are fluff?
Which posts of Vifam's are fluff?

While you're doing that, I'll refute that right now. Town fluff posts all the time. Scum fluff post too. This is a social game, and some people enjoy the social aspects of it more than others. Being social is not generally a scumtell.
What is, you ask?
When you answer the questions above, we'll go into that.

3. The effort to copy and paste all those quotes together doesn't really match the strength of the case it illustrates. That was probably a pain in the neck. Why wouldn't you just say "ISO'd Vifam. Almost all of his posts are about name claiming."? You're more likely to do it as scum for two reasons: One, having a big wall post full of quotes makes it look like you are putting in more effort. Two, mafia have less reason to believe the strength of their arguments stand on their own, so they need to put in more effort. They know they aren't acting on real scumtells. I'm not saying townies don't put in effort. I' m saying they are less likely to put in effort into stupid garbage while scumhunting.

There is a button on each quote with the Q+ feature for multi-quoting. No problem at all.

And tell me you just didn;t say " big wall post full of quotes makes it look like you are putting in more effort".
Are wall posts, in general, scummy? Or only wall posts that use quotes? How many quotes make a wall? Is breaking up a wall posts into multiple postings more town?
You know, it really sounds like your trying to say I'm scum because of the way I posted.
Otherwise, unless you are chainsaw defending Vifam for some reason, I haven't seen from you why my case is "fake", and you haven't once said it was wrong either.

By the way, I was shit-talking the case before I got this wagon going. Peregrine didn't feel like engaging with me then. Where was Peregrine when I said that it goes without saying that the case is unconvincing? He only started to care that I didn't understand his case once I started voting for him.

My case is fake and unconvincing?
468.

It's not all about the case, either. PeregrineV has been weirdly ambivalent with his attempts to break the game. Dude said he wasn't excited about it, but yet is trying to break the game constantly. The heck. Between that and the fluff posting, it really reads to me like Peregrine is just doing stuff because he's seen others do it for townpoints.

"Fluff posting" addressed above.
And i'm not trying to break the game.
Read 85, 107, 150. The mod doesn't want the game broken, but if I'm not trying to win why bother playing?

Kiwi

, you are right that the mafia doesn't always fall all over themselves. But PeregrineV has, and I think the best explanation is that he is mafia. Maybe you aren't taking Vifam seriously because you are raging at him right now, so maybe the question will come better from me: how does Peregrine's play make sense as town?

Yes, because I am scumhunting.

Could Vifam be mafia? Easily.

So you agree with me that Vifam is scum, but think I'm scum?

MrZepher

, the day ends when we figure out someone to lynch. If we are lynching PeregrineV, we aren't delaying the day so we can chitchat with Klick without any pressure on him. Trust me, there will be enough people to scumhunt tomorrow no matter what happens. And without pressure, mafia can act townish pretty easily, and all we are doing is filling our thread with a bunch of bad data that dilutes the good stuff.

This sounds like why scumhunt today when we can scumhunt tomorrow. I'd like the thoughts about why you think this is good play.

You missed 468, but I'm still a few pages behind.

pedit: Yeah, I'll get there when I get there...

[PeregrineV]

Balrog in my mind is not confirmed town. Sure, it would be awful if the mod said what he did and balrog was scum, but the phrase also reads well for scum. Experienced players will, as scum, try to look for anyway they might lose. If my balrog thoughts are right, scumbalrog could also have questioned the mod to death to find out the nature of the wishes, and subsequently posted a game breaking strategy to get it refused by the mod. It wins town points with some (most) and allows him to post as he likes.

This can't go unremarked, but I need to go to meetings and work and such. Bonus points to anyone who can point out how stupid this sounds.

[PeregrineV]

You know, I came back to see if you have a response to ANY of my posts.

But you don't Sanjay, do you?

Because you, too, are scum with Vifam.

You defend him, attack me, but don't answer anything posted to you, you just keep bleating and squalling.

Because your scum.

I am Timmy Turner.

I cannot live with the lack of intelligence on this planet.

Sanjay is scum
adorkable is scum
Vifam is scum.

Vote: PeregrineV

[PeregrineV]

ok cool, people agree with me about ending the day.

now that we're close and something I say might actually stick in people's heads during the night phase, I just want to make a general PSA that nobody should use their wishes to make vig shots imo.

a.) if you get backfired by the scum you might end up shooting yourself in the face
b.) even if you successfully shoot and

even if you're right

, you're depriving us of information that could be gained via votecount analysis.

I will probably hate myself for this announcement later if we're still alive in a 200-page d4 or something crazy, but eh, it needs to be said.

Vote analysis? Describe your vote activity again, scum?

[PeregrineV]

a) Where did scum-adorkable come from?
b) If you're town as you claim, why are you self-hammering?

Because I'm taking 30 minutes from work to respond to everything relevant, and it's getting ignored. Why the fuck should I bother when everyone's whining about "the day is too long".

Go play MafiaChat if you can't read.

[PeregrineV]

I'll answer real questions until the mod locks the thread.

Good luck town!!

[PeregrineV]

ITT, adorkable RVS votes Peregrine and then talks about vote count analysis.


:lol:

[PeregrineV]

Peregrine, you didn't respond to my posts either.

I mean, I see where you quoted them and then typed a bunch of words but all I read was BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH.

So you are basically lying.

This is the post where I didn't respond to you.

I'm assuming in here somewhere you answered 468. So, let's to it.

But whatever,

let's talk about PeregrineV

:

The thing about Peregrine's Vifam case is not that it is bad. It's that it is fake. It's incidentally bad but that's beside the point. Why it is fake:

1. There is an inauthenticity to it in so far as the strength of the conclusion doesn't follow from the strength of the argument.

The strength of the conclusion: Vifam is scum
The strength of the argument: In looking for Vifam's scumhunting posts as opposed to nameclaim posts, I found where he did not wish to use town wishes to win.
More details on what you are trying to say here.

2. PeregrineV somehow both can't conceive of why someone would fluff post so much as town, and yet fluff posts himself.

So, you admit that Vifam had fluff posts.
You claim I have posted fluff.
Which posts of mine are fluff?
Which posts of Vifam's are fluff?

While you're doing that, I'll refute that right now. Town fluff posts all the time. Scum fluff post too. This is a social game, and some people enjoy the social aspects of it more than others. Being social is not generally a scumtell.
What is, you ask?
When you answer the questions above, we'll go into that.

3. The effort to copy and paste all those quotes together doesn't really match the strength of the case it illustrates. That was probably a pain in the neck. Why wouldn't you just say "ISO'd Vifam. Almost all of his posts are about name claiming."? You're more likely to do it as scum for two reasons: One, having a big wall post full of quotes makes it look like you are putting in more effort. Two, mafia have less reason to believe the strength of their arguments stand on their own, so they need to put in more effort. They know they aren't acting on real scumtells. I'm not saying townies don't put in effort. I' m saying they are less likely to put in effort into stupid garbage while scumhunting.

There is a button on each quote with the Q+ feature for multi-quoting. No problem at all.

And tell me you just didn;t say " big wall post full of quotes makes it look like you are putting in more effort".
Are wall posts, in general, scummy? Or only wall posts that use quotes? How many quotes make a wall? Is breaking up a wall posts into multiple postings more town?
You know, it really sounds like your trying to say I'm scum because of the way I posted.
Otherwise, unless you are chainsaw defending Vifam for some reason, I haven't seen from you why my case is "fake", and you haven't once said it was wrong either.

By the way, I was shit-talking the case before I got this wagon going. Peregrine didn't feel like engaging with me then. Where was Peregrine when I said that it goes without saying that the case is unconvincing? He only started to care that I didn't understand his case once I started voting for him.

My case is fake and unconvincing?
468.

It's not all about the case, either. PeregrineV has been weirdly ambivalent with his attempts to break the game. Dude said he wasn't excited about it, but yet is trying to break the game constantly. The heck. Between that and the fluff posting, it really reads to me like Peregrine is just doing stuff because he's seen others do it for townpoints.

"Fluff posting" addressed above.
And i'm not trying to break the game.
Read 85, 107, 150. The mod doesn't want the game broken, but if I'm not trying to win why bother playing?

Kiwi

, you are right that the mafia doesn't always fall all over themselves. But PeregrineV has, and I think the best explanation is that he is mafia. Maybe you aren't taking Vifam seriously because you are raging at him right now, so maybe the question will come better from me: how does Peregrine's play make sense as town?

Yes, because I am scumhunting.

Could Vifam be mafia? Easily.

So you agree with me that Vifam is scum, but think I'm scum?

MrZepher

, the day ends when we figure out someone to lynch. If we are lynching PeregrineV, we aren't delaying the day so we can chitchat with Klick without any pressure on him. Trust me, there will be enough people to scumhunt tomorrow no matter what happens. And without pressure, mafia can act townish pretty easily, and all we are doing is filling our thread with a bunch of bad data that dilutes the good stuff.

This sounds like why scumhunt today when we can scumhunt tomorrow. I'd like the thoughts about why you think this is good play.

You missed 468, but I'm still a few pages behind.

pedit: Yeah, I'll get there when I get there...

And you admit to not reading.

Good news: I'll be confirmed town in a few.

Bad news 9for you): A smart townie will vig you.

[PeregrineV]

adorkable's PSA goes double for alignment switches.

And, while we are talking about wishes, I think I'm going to spend some of the townpoints I've apparently accrued today to do something super anti-town.

Anti-fairies, get ready for some free advice:

Don't backfire my wish.

Please don't backfire my wish.

Whoever you are, whatever else you are planning to do, backfiring my wish won't really help you that much.

I know what my wish is. I've known what I wanted my wish to be before I even had a wish. Backfiring it will barely help you.

You might be thinking: I am WIFOMing you and trying to get you not to mess with something important I am going to do. I'm not.

You might be thinking: I am WIFOMing you by telling you I'm not WIFOMing you. I'm not.

Don't backfire my wish.

Your lack of worry about being the target of the NK is noted.

[PeregrineV]

If you are town, thanks a bunch for self-hammering. That's real fuckin' golden.

If you are scum, thanks a bunch for self-hammering. Legitimately.

Nice try. WIFOM since I'm already dead and will flip town.
Not Vifam, your scumbuddy.

But hey, I also attacked adorkable. Why don't you add some glitter to your "town pants" and attack my case on him too.

[PeregrineV]

ITT PV makes arguments about how people are ignoring points he makes while still ignoring points made against him.

RTFT- 679

[PeregrineV]

As I recall didn't Balrog and Adorkable have points of contention with you?

OK. If you believe that, what was adorkable's case, and what posts did he prove his case?

As of 728, Balrog was fighting Kiwi.

[PeregrineV]

You know, I came back to see if you have a response to ANY of my posts.

But you don't Sanjay, do you?

Because you, too, are scum with Vifam.

You defend him, attack me, but don't answer anything posted to you, you just keep bleating and squalling.

Because your scum.

I am Timmy Turner.

I cannot live with the lack of intelligence on this planet.

Sanjay is scum
adorkable is scum
Vifam is scum.

Vote: PeregrineV

If you're town you are the worst

Work=$$$
Mafia=fun
$$$$>fun

[PeregrineV]

ITT PV makes arguments about how people are ignoring points he makes while still ignoring points made against him.

Basically this.

PV, if you are town and you think it is SOOOOOOO important that someone answer your questions, why did you put your life on a timer?

WTF are you talking about?

There's no good reason.

You know what? I hope you are town, because I've been pushing for your lynch all day, and I don't want to have wasted all this time lynching you and protecting my buddies.

Because if you are town you just suck at this game.

If you are mafia you are an asshole.

It's been said before. But why the insults instead of ever answering my posts?

[PeregrineV]

Oh well you're probably scum so who cares

Now you sound retarded, since I already said I was town, and will flip soon. I troll, but not that much.

[PeregrineV]

PeregrineV, here's a funny thing to think about.

Let's play the "OH, WON'T YOU HAVE EGG ON YOUR FACE WHEN I FLIP" game. Eventually, we will all flip.

If you are town and I am town: you look incompetent because you self-hammered and everything I did is understandable because sometimes people are wrong.
If you are mafia and I am town: you look incompetent because you self-hammered and I look like a fuckin' bad-ass.
If you are town and I am mafia: you look incompetent because you self-hammered and I look like a fuckin' bad-ass.
If you are mafia and I am mafia: This option is too awesome to conceive. Unfortunately, we both know this isn't the case.

Basically, if you wanted to play to your win condition and you thought I was dodging your questions, why stab yourself in the neck before you pressed me?

You've ignored anything I said until I'm already dead. I was at L-1 with a bunch of whiners itching to hammer. Based on some of the posting I've seen, it would be foolish of me to expect some of these players to bother reading, and the rest are scum.

As for my incompetence, meh. I've been wrong before, and will be wrong again. At least I'm bothering to play.

[PeregrineV]

No matter what he flips he played bad and he's even more of an idiot if he is town and you consider the fact I am town.

WHATEVER

Well then I guess it's a good thing you didn't have to defend your actions or make real cases or anything. But maybe this is the new normal, and I'm just not flighty enough to play anymore.

[PeregrineV]

Spoiler: For Ben

@Ben- I nabbed you as SK in Bastardmind, saw you shot as scum in another game, was lynched by you-town as your neighbor in another game, and the last game you were the town cop. I felt I could get a better feel for you early on if I engaged you before you started talking too much.

[PeregrineV]

But you're wrong and you are going to look like an idiot later because of your dumb read.

I REALLY hope you are scum for the sake of the game and your rep

What rep?

117
120

[PeregrineV]

Yeah town!

I liked the whole wish mechanic, but it does really screw over scum.

I was going for Self-Watching, 1-shot Deathproof Masonizer, but maybe I should think bigger next time.