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Brian Skies Survivor
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She has two QTs where the only difference is Spiffeh's existence. Everyone in her second QT is dead and can't verify it's existence. Everyone involved hasn't mentioned that there was a second QT or tried to figure out why they had two QTs if we're to believe Spiffeh and TTH as to what was discussed. TTH also didn't speak in the first QT with Spiffeh and we probably wouldn't have known if it weren't for everyone claiming which journey they took (she was the odd person out). It's her complete disregard for the night phase that concerns me as she's just floating through the game and I know she's better than this.-
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A) This would have been acceptable but she did not do this (and it was already claimed by Egg).
B) Would have been iffy because two players already claimed to have been blocked.
C) I would have policy lynched her for this as I claimed this as scum in that Galactica game (or whatever game that was).
D) ...She gives us two QTs, one of which can't be verified in any way.-
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In post 1541, Spiffeh wrote:I received an ability after twilight for the night phase that just ended.
I had the option of copping someone or putting whoever I wanted on the ritual.
I chose to cop UrishomiyaAnge
And they are Illusion!
Did you already have one of these abilities beforehand?-
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My lower world only has Copper in it.
I picked mountain, he picked forest, and we talked about blocks and his ritual scumread (which didn't really make much sense to me, and I put off further discussion as I was just waiting to see what would happen after the night phase). I also told him to lynch Spiffeh if there was an extra unidentified night kill and I wasn't alive today.-
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In post 1557, Spiffeh wrote:No
Were there any other effects? Like on following twilights/nights?-
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In post 1560, Egg wrote:I did. i was telling you what was going on in the Middle World. with toog. and about hito. and we each picked one of beach, mountain, and forest. are you telling me you had a different qt than me too?
Out of curiosity, what did we say to each other in our conversation?-
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In post 1579, Spiffeh wrote:In post 1563, Brian Skies wrote:Were there any other effects? Like on following twilights/nights?
Not that I know of?
Idk if I understand your question
I think you understand it just fine. I'm just curious because I targeted you but it doesn't seem like it did anything. Which could mean I either misunderstood what it could do or I was twilight blocked again (or both).-
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In post 1586, Spiffeh wrote:In post 1582, Brian Skies wrote:I think you understand it just fine. I'm just curious because I targeted you but it doesn't seem like it did anything. Which could mean I either misunderstood what it could do or I was twilight blocked again (or both).
I was not notified of being targeted by anything
Don't get snippy
Lol. I'm not being snippy. I was just saying you not having any knowledge is an answer in itself.-
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In post 1593, UshiromiyaAnge wrote:In post 1590, AngryPidgeon wrote:I mean...the worst that happens is spiffeh is scum and fails the ritual? Would be pretty funny stuff. But I'd be fine with not putting him on since we are going to know more about his alignment as a result of this claim.
See this shit? This isn't from town.
"We'll know more about his alignment as the result of this claim"?
Yeah. If I'm town, he's scum. Someone knows that I'm not scum and is sitting on the fence.
He very clearly wants to lynch the guilty result, and there's nothing scummy about his mindset here.-
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In post 1613, UshiromiyaAnge wrote:In post 1612, Brian Skies wrote:I'm also interested in the disappearance of your one scum on and one scum off theory from yesterday.
Well it's really easy to figure out that one player is scum WHEN THEY'RE CLAIMING A COP GUILTY ON YOU AND YOU'RE TOWN
I mean it's one of those what we call "red flags"
Seriously, I don't expect to survive this I don't care, I win when every threat to the realm is dead, and that doesn't require me to be alive at all. Lynch AP for me.
It should still hold merit when you're looking for scum #3.-
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Brian Skies Survivor
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In post 1619, Egg wrote:Brian: Yeah, I've been to the lower world and Copper's right. I'll take Mountain
Brian: Hito and Ushiro feels easy but maybe it's just that easy.
This is a really awful impersonation of me considering:
1) I was rewarded with a meeting with an animal spirit after descending into the darkness Night 1 and would not have just called it flavor.
2) The second comment isn't one I ever see myself making.
Copper also chose forest in my QT.-
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In post 1628, AngryPidgeon wrote:Ya, I would not trade 1 for 1 right now as scum. Not when there are TOTALLY mislynchable people in the game. Like TTH.
I'm not voting UA unless someone verifies Spiffeh was gifted an investigative check. Also, the ritual should still happen (although Copper should probably get first pick depending on if he got anything last night). And I'd still like a mass claim.
The journeys seem to be related to a shamans typical journey (which is why I went lower world first). I'm probably going middle world next.-
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I believe the game has reached a point where there's no reason not to mass claim. It creates accountability and this setup is too weird not to do so today. If you're town, we might learn something to lead us to towards the correct lynch and there are certain things in this game that should be sorted sooner rather than later.-
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In post 1647, copper223 wrote:Mass claiming with a guilty claim makes little sense to me although I'm not particularly against it, I don't get why town_hito in particular would want to do so though, Brian what are you claiming to have used on Spiffeh?
I used ayahuasca on TTH yesterday, that's a 1-shot NK protection ability so UA's bullet-proof claim makes me slightly uncomfortable, if UA is scum then their most likely partner is Hito.
What are your thoughts of these weird QT's once again surrounding Egg and TTH?-
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In post 1691, copper223 wrote:AP, Brian, Spiffeh, does one of you also claim to have a specific role in their tribe?
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In post 1718, UshiromiyaAnge wrote:
No seriously, what possible motive could I have to fakeclaim Saulus and ask to be lynched? I'm a goddamn Jester?
Scum will do what they can to win. You're no exception.
I think scum is in TTH/Egg (been leaning towards Egg recently). Copper thinks it's probably Hito. It's not something I'm able to freely discuss without a mass claim.
There's still the possibility it's TTH, but I won't feel confident about it until she claims.-
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In post 1724, UshiromiyaAnge wrote:In post 1722, Brian Skies wrote:Scum will do what they can to win. You're no exception.
I think scum is in TTH/Egg (been leaning towards Egg recently). Copper thinks it's probably Hito. It's not something I'm able to freely discuss without a mass claim.
There's still the possibility it's TTH, but I won't feel confident about it until she claims.
What will you do when I flip town, Brian?
Because when I flip it's going to be green. I confirmed it.
"We're a Mafia Traitor."
"What will you do when we flip town?"
In the small chance that you're actually town here (and I'm doubting it since you're doing everything in your power from helping town save you and find scum if you are), I will lynch Spiffeh.-
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I did read.
Based on your argument, you will flip Shaman, not aligned with the Illusion. Which makes Spiffeh scum.
Yet, even with your impending death, you're resorting to causing havoc and preventing a mass claim that would potentially help us find scum in the event that you're telling the truth.
I don't believe your claim though.-
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In post 1733, UshiromiyaAnge wrote:So I ask again. When I flip town are you going to continue to be a flaming dumbass and ignore me?
The more you insult me, the more tempting it becomes.-
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In post 1731, copper223 wrote:Brian what did you use on Spiffeh?
I had two options last twilight phase. The first was Path to Mastery, which blocks my target during the night but gradually empowers their role for the rest of the game. I didn't know enough about other players' roles to want to use it on anyone except one person, who according to my understanding had a twilight ability. Since it doesn't immediately resolve, I was told if the ability would work it would not begin resolving until the following twilight phase. I didn't feel like there was enough game left to play to bother.
The second choice was Fake-Empower, which immediately empowers my target's role in the night phase, but blocks them in the following night phase. I wanted to use it on someone that was in the ritual to see what would happen. I knew Copper was going to Lower World, so I chose to use him as a potential breadcrumb/hardclaim option. I wasn't confident in UA or AP being town based on them refusing to help me lynch my scumread and they weren't players I wanted to risk losing should Copper end up being scum. Spiffeh was on my wagon and I didn't really care if he ended up dying because of me or not.
I thought TTH may have been the person who gifted Spiffeh the ability. Since she has claimed otherwise, she goes back into my probable scum pile, along with Hito (it would be pretty lolsy if it's actually Hito considering UA wanted to lynch him yesterday over TTH). Egg is probably town based off of TTH's claim unless you feel like drinking the kool-aid of the 4-man scumteam.-
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