NY 165: A Large Normal (Game Over!)

Serene · Sun Jun 30, 2013 2:50 am

I agree with a lot of Cephrir's list minus bro & shadi and plus Nero.

Serene · Sun Jun 30, 2013 6:41 am

Calc which head do you consider my primary head

Serene · Sun Jun 30, 2013 6:50 am

The main posting head is Dr. Serene MD. Our therapist. The "sane" one as someone referred.

The others are the good doctor's loyal patients

Yea though I walk through the valley in the shadow of rage, I shall fear no scum. He leadeth me beside still waters. His rod and staff, they comfort me.

Serene · Sun Jun 30, 2013 7:22 am

And calc it's only fair to tell you that our push on you is the result of all heads feeling you as scum

Was kinda nice to agree with them on someone actually

Serene · Sun Jun 30, 2013 7:23 am

Although I did laugh at calcs attempt to defuse his wagon by calling it a personal grudge perpetrated by some unknown person

Serene · Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:42 am

Quit your bellyaching Calcifer, I'm not "Mr Red" and I've read you as scum since replacing in.

Without us as scum. Reads.

We've been giving out reads up the wazoo independent of your alignment. Also, we don't negotiate with scum.

But to do so, I need you to not be calling my slot scum.

hahahahahahahahhshshhhshsssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh aaaaaawwww

DIE
SCUM
DIE

Serene · Sun Jun 30, 2013 12:10 pm

In post 1586, Nero wrote:this is my 95th post in this thread making me joint 4th with shadi and tip.

I really really want to see you eat rope.

Serene · Sun Jun 30, 2013 4:21 pm

In post 1590, BROseidon wrote:Prod received.

I don't want to catch up on the 20 or so pages I'm behind. Someone pls summarize.

Nero and Calcifer both have confessed scum, please choose one to lynch.

Serene · Sun Jun 30, 2013 4:24 pm

In post 1589, Cephrir wrote:Looking at other Nero games I actually feel like he's less useful as town, but I also think he hasn't been very useful here.

WOW - let me parse this word salad, scum.

(1) Nero hasn't been useful in this game.
(2) Nero is less useful as town than scum.
(3) therefore Nero is town
(4) are you fucking kidding me

How do you feel about Calcifer bus'ing you?

Serene · Sun Jun 30, 2013 4:26 pm

In post 1594, TheIrishPope wrote:Ceph is a waaaaaaay better lynch.

Vig him and save us the trouble.

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:37 am

Calcifer's reaction to his wagon makes them scum more than anything meta related

He's panicking and trying to discredit his wagon.

"No one will pay attention to you if you lynch me because of personal beef?" Scum, please.

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:00 am

YES YES

You're scummy as town, we get it

The horse is dead, kindly stop beating him Shadi

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:10 am

In post 1598, Cephrir wrote:
In post 1595, Serene wrote:
In post 1589, Cephrir wrote:Looking at other Nero games I actually feel like he's less useful as town, but I also think he hasn't been very useful here.
WOW - let me parse this word salad, scum.

(1) Nero hasn't been useful in this game.
(2) Nero is less useful as town than scum.
(3) therefore Nero is town
(4) are you fucking kidding me

How do you feel about Calcifer bus'ing you?
well that was pretty uncalled for

I didn't say (3) but it's moved him up somewhat from null for me yeah

Deal with it?

I dealt with it, you're scum, now I'm moving along.

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:14 am

Scum is Stubbs, TMT, Ceprir Calcifer, Nero, probably BFenix...

I mean it's pretty in-your-face obvious.

All we need is some Lynchiagra.

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:54 am

In post 1612, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:not cephrir or nero

I'm so sick of hearing who you all DON'T want to lynch.

You've got the game ass-backwards.

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 4:00 am

@serene: it's because current site meta is that effort is scummy, meta reads are king, gut reads are useless and everyone is town until proven otherwise. "Scum slips" and tells are prevalent under current meta despite years of study disproving that.

It's all very annoying to an old school player who thirsts for blood.

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 4:03 am

Some of you have obviously never pushed and pushed a town read only to have them stab you I'm the back at LYLO, removing their black masks to reveal themselves as the scumfucks they were.

One day, you too shall be betrayed, and you will never trust anyone completely again.

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 4:06 am

And for the record even if Nero were town, he will fuck everyone over if left alive in LYLO

Actually alot of you will fuck us over come LYLO so I guess there's solace in that. Just remember, if you're still alive come day 5 or so, your reads have been shit or your play has been shit.

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 4:33 am

In post 1625, Rift Adrift wrote:Nacho please get you butt back into this thread and talk about your scumspects.

What are your thoughts about Cephrir's post catch-up posts?

Where do you stand on Bulba now?

Just iso the scum, his thoughts are already on record.

Or maybe you have some farsighted strategy to goad Calcifer into bus'ing his whole scumteam, I guess I ought to back off and let you work your magic.

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 4:35 am

Calcifer, Stevie, and Nero are the three names that pop as scummy for all of my heads. Letters guy also is scummy to at least 2 of us.
BULBA to some of us but personally my own scum read on him has softened. I find ank scummy because he flies under the radar and his reaction to our claim didn't seem town. Doctor Head agreed with me on that point.

Our mutual town reads are dram (obv), Rift, ProHawk, and Shadi. Shadi especially seems like the designated mislynch.

We find it suspicious that people wagoned dram for lack of content (usual for dram anyway) when Nero has posted even less content. Indicates to us a hypocrisy caused by the protection of his scum buddies.

I wasn't sold on the Calcifer read by the other heads, but his reaction to the wagon and appeals to "mr red" have been scummy.

Stevie was saved by at least two counter wagons so far. Notice how it fizzled in the face of the wagons on Shadi, dram, and my selves? Even now while calciferol wagon slowly builds, he escapes judgement. Scum obviously not wanting to bus yet.

Mark my words, AT LEAST one scum among those three. Another scum at least among the lurk mass, probably Letters or Ank.

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 7:34 am

In post 1632, Nero wrote:
In post 1617, Serene wrote:
In post 1612, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:not cephrir or nero
I'm so sick of hearing who you all DON'T want to lynch.

You've got the game ass-backwards.
im sick of reading you post.

shut th efuck up.

Never fucking ever.

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 8:15 am

In post 1634, Calcifer wrote:
In post 1606, Serene wrote:"No one will pay attention to you if you lynch me because of personal beef?" Scum, please.
It's true, though, and you--being an experienced player--damn-well know it. Everyone's been there. I've seen it far too many times. "Oh, Mastin was wrong on his read on X, he must be wrong now on his read of Y." It's a weird hybrid of Burden of Proficiency and 7-for-7, in that it's basically a reverse-7-for-7. Is it fallacious logic? Heck yeah it is. Does it hold any logical validity? No, not really.

...But is it something which is used all the same? Hell yes it is. Seriously, you can't go more than a few games and
not
see this happen.
In post 1611, Serene wrote:Scum is Stubbs, TMT, Ceprir Calcifer, Nero, probably BFenix...
Talk to me, here. Work with me, not against me.

You have me on TMT and maybe BulbaFenix. But none of the others. Stubbs I admittedly have not read much of, but I've had no issue with Stubbs's posts that I've seen recently, and in fact have seen them as being town. Show me why Stubbs is scum.

You've done a fairly decent job of explaining why you have Nero as a scumread, but not a good enough job for me to actually see him as scum. I'm ambivalent on him. I can see him as scum, I can see him as town, but you haven't sold me on why he's scum. Give me more. I'm listening.

But most of all, explain to me Cephrir again. I mighta seen him as being bad with his catchup posts initially, but his responses since he got caught up have been just about as town as it gets. And when I re-skimmed his isos seeing his caught-up posts, I just couldn't see him as scum anymore. Least of all when Rift Adrift supported this town-Ceph stance. So, again, talk to me here.

Don't go "lolscum, why would I need to convince you?"

We. are. not. scum. So get your heads out of your collective asses and talk to the town-us for a minute. Yes, we're town. So yes, you do need to convince us.

Sounds like you're trying to regain control of the game by playing with my balls.

My beach balls.

I already told you I don't negotiate with scum.

Nice of you to confirm that Nero is your buddy. You're a class act. The town thanks you.

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:11 am

In post 1641, Calcifer wrote:Don't make me rage against you.

do it

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:13 am

In post 1641, Calcifer wrote:You are not a scumhunting god.

Yeah I'm no scumhunting god but I did catch you didn't I.

I'll talk if you bus Nero. Hard. Realllll hard.

But I must warn you, I have no patience for your scum shenanigans.

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:14 am

In post 1647, Calcifer wrote:
In post 1646, Zdenek wrote:Calcifer, why are you voting BulbaFenix?
Because they're still technically a scumread, combined with the fact that--while I may currently be the dominant head--I still hold some trust in Nacho, and last I knew, Nacho had BulbaFenix as scum.

Oh god this is so scummy

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:14 am

In post 1650, Calcifer wrote:It's basically gut.

Oh. Gut is good for you, but not for me?

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:16 am

In post 32, Nero wrote:
vote: calcifer

Downhill ever since.

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:22 am

Nero, since you know that I am town - you have literally ZERO reason to use 90% of your posts to discredit me.

You also have no scumreads. You have been voting your buddy Stevie since June 12.

The only explanation for the above is your scum role PM.

You're very lucky we're playing a game where no one seems to want to lynch anyone. If this game had normal players, you know, that vote players to lynch, and get the game moving, I'm pretty sure you'd be lynched.

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:32 am

In post 1663, Nero wrote:policy lynching

Haha, no, nice try.

NOT policy lynch.

Scum lynch.

I'd rather lynch you than Stevie because Stevie appeals to my condescending intellectual pretensions more than you do.

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:55 am

In post 1678, Rift Adrift wrote:
In post 1677, Zdenek wrote:So Ank is soaring up the scum-charts, and Nero constantly insulting Serene makes no sense if he's town.
I still want to lynch the obv-scum Stevie, but Calcifer is probably scum so he can go too.
There is not a single phrase in this post that I agree with. Aside from Nero's insults, but they make no sense whatever his alignment.

In other news, Syr pointed out a little while ago that this game could use some policy lynches. I'm kinda sad that I don't really favor policy lynches.

I agree with 100% of what Zdenek says, and 0% of what you say - exceptt that I don't policy lynch either.

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:57 am

In post 1680, KingCrabd wrote:Stevie has gone how long with his case promise now?

I'd rather lynch Neroscum first, or Calciscum, but Steviescum works too.

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:02 pm

In post 1684, Rift Adrift wrote:We have some points of agreement, I think. If I were the policy-lynching type, Nero would be pretty high up on my list.

Yeah but he's scum

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:27 pm

In post 1691, Nero wrote:you're the literal epitome of retarded. you're incredulously delusional and just plainly terrible.

jesus christ just self delete serene.

have you tried crying about it

shit, i see that you have

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:29 pm

In post 1705, Nero wrote:
In post 1703, Serene wrote:
In post 1691, Nero wrote:you're the literal epitome of retarded. you're incredulously delusional and just plainly terrible.

jesus christ just self delete serene.
have you tried crying about it

shit, i see that you have
coming from someone who had a mental breakdown over being fossed in a game of forum mafia.

just shut the fuck up.

you're the one that keeps bitching and whining just because you're caught scum

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:30 pm

like i know i'm sexy, but god damn nero, you're obsessed with me

once we're both in the dead QT i'll send you my nudes so you can jack off there instead of here

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:34 pm

In post 1708, Nero wrote:ahhahahaha i have one vote on me and i'm being fossed by someone who's being unanimously ignored by the rest of the players. totally on the defensive.

its not just your read on me which is terrible, its your read on everyone. they're irrational, unthought-out and just plainly atrocious.

at least my reads are clear

you pretty much just shit post and insult all day

you're like an even more terrible ME

you're not even bothering to play the game

a poor man's imitation who forgot to actually play

the fact that anyone in this game reads your lack of participation as town is absolutely mind boggling and degrades the site--- nay, humanity itself--- as a whole

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:35 pm

In post 1711, Nero wrote:and i doubt the scum would nightkill a mentally regressed fucktard like you.

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:36 pm

you first

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:36 pm

in b4 "you're a retarded cunt" again

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:37 pm

and also in b4 metal sonic calls that a brilliant retort and nero masturbates in the scum qt about how he acid burned me

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:37 pm

In post 1717, Nero wrote:every single post you make degrades your image even more.

> implying that my image ever mattered to me

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:39 pm

In post 1722, Nero wrote:what head no. is this posting?

the ugly one

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:39 pm

In post 1721, Nero wrote:quit the 4chan inb4 shit cunt.

you are so edgy and cool how can i be edgy and cool at mafia like you

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:41 pm

yeah birth defects usually are

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:42 pm

In post 1727, Rift Adrift wrote:See, crabd every fucking time I try to work through some stuff with anyone in this thread this retarded insult back and forth just shows up out of nowhere and fills up pages with crap and buries whatever conversation was happening.

i was perfectly fine to ignore it but Neroscum (lol nero's cum) has a hard on for me and likes telling me to shut up and call me a cunt

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:43 pm

In post 1729, Nero wrote:
In post 1726, Serene wrote:yeah birth defects usually are
try again.

your contributions to this thread will help the town catch scum

im trying a new approach where i flat out lie to you

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:45 pm

In post 1732, Nero wrote:serene, if you fucking think im scum then vote me cunt.

i'm already voting your buddy calcifer though

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:49 pm

In post 1737, Nero wrote:you're so fucking retarded. so retarded that you have traveled far beyond retarded as we know it and into a new dimension of retarded.

i'm sorry i didn't realize i had intruded on your kingdom

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:51 pm

In post 1743, Nero wrote:im trying to subtly indicate to serene how moronic "it" is.

your idea of subtlety is a guy painted bright orange, walking around screaming "SUBTLETY" while waving around a giant flashing sign that says "I AM BEING SUBTLE"

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:53 pm

In post 1705, Nero wrote:coming from someone who had a mental breakdown over being fossed in a game of forum mafia.

btw this is exactly what you're doing right this minute

THAT'S RIGHT FUCKER YOU'VE BECOME ME

shame on you

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:53 pm

i call nero scum and he starts spamming the thread with "retarded cunt"

you're just like me, dude

just

like

me

except terrible at mafia

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:54 pm

In post 1752, Ankamius wrote:Nero/Serene

For the last god damn time, stop filling the thread with useless shit. You've been literally going in circles for the past 30 pages and making the thread really hard to read.

okay

you're scum.

let's discuss that.

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:55 pm

In post 1751, Nero wrote:i really don't give a shit about this game. i'm just kinda bored and enjoy hurling verbal projectile in your direction.

good to know you're literally not even playing to your win condition

that tends to happen when wagons form on your scum buddies day 1

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:55 pm

In post 1760, Nero wrote:hahahahahaha another scumread pulled out of a hat.

no, I flat out said I thought ank was scum, and said why as well

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:56 pm

In post 1759, Ankamius wrote:Feel free to make a case.

In post 1627, Serene wrote:I find ank scummy because he flies under the radar and his reaction to our claim didn't seem town. Doctor Head agreed with me on that point.

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:59 pm

In post 1770, Rift Adrift wrote:I've sent PeregrineV a PM about it and I hope he'll be more successful in getting Nero (and Serene #2 or whoever it is) to knock it off than other players have been.

I can only play nice for so long while being called a cunt

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:01 pm

In post 1771, Zdenek wrote:When it comes to Ank, I didn't like that basically just calls stuff "weird," so he's not actually attacking anyone or calling anyone scummy - it's a very safe way to play.

exactly

his reaction to the claim is pretty much "Eh, I believe the claim, but we'll see"

it's a very safe position for scum to take when they know the claim is almost certainly true from their viewpoint

i'm willing to bet at least one scum believed the claim without question and i believe that scum to be ank

In post 1128, Ankamius wrote:Right. Well, then.

UNVOTE: Serene

The claim is believable enough. I'm not going to consider them near-confirmed town yet, but they can join the town pile. until the claim is proven one way or the other.

What exactly made the claim believable?

How does one prove a mason claim without one of us dying? And for that matter, my own death proves me town anyway. So no one is confirmed until dead? Or?

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:06 pm

In post 1770, Rift Adrift wrote:I don't know what Nero's motivation is.

He's scum.

I'd love to vote him, but instead of lynching him you're all going to call him "neutral" and dismiss my vote as a personal beef slash policy vote.

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:07 pm

In post 1774, Zdenek wrote:
In post 1770, Rift Adrift wrote:I don't know what Nero's motivation is. I just know what the result is. A totally disrupted conversation among people trying to sort out reads. If his motivation is not to disrupt the shit out of this lynch decision he needs to take a look at the thread.
It's like you know exactly what the scum motivation is.

I love you, I do.

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:08 pm

In post 1782, Ankamius wrote:Dramonic's response made it believable.

Those questions are literally useless. The only way it CAN be proven is by death (or copping both of them, but that's a waste of time). All the last statement really said is that both you and dramonic are in the town pile for the claim until one of you flips.

ehhh

yeah that makes sense

back into the null pile with you

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:11 pm

VOTE: NERO

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:15 pm

Nero is scum.

I have meta on him; if he were town he'd make walls of shit cases on me.

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:19 pm

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=26390

In this game, Nero is relentless in making shit wall cases and fakeclaims against townies as town - he pretty much single-handedly decimated the town, and no one was able to find scum in the Nero-created morass.

In this game he is recreating the morass and the demoralization, minus the effort of making shitcases.

Baby Spice should support my read.

Nero is definitely scum, this is not a policy lynch, no one should even suggest that this may be a policy lynch. This is a 100% SCUM lynch.

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:20 pm

The first "this game" is the old game.

The second "this game" is this current game.

Sorry if that was confusing.

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:22 pm

In post 1793, fferyllt wrote:Nero is not Nero Cain?

Alt.

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:27 pm

In post 1796, Rift Adrift wrote:This is the game that orcinus and I played with town-Nero: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=26883

Same crap, not quite as voluminous.

p-edit what is the alt's name?

Nero Cain. I suspect an alt.

If I'm wrong and he's not an alt, anyone that played with him in BSG would be insane not to vote him here. His play is completely different. In BSG, he's giving reads, he's voting, he's commenting, he's terse but not useless. Very unlike this game.

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:33 pm

In post 1798, Rift Adrift wrote:IMO he's doing all the stuff that he did in the BSG game, and has ladled an overwhelming amount of spam on top.

No. No. No.

Just. No.

Iso him again both games. HE IS

VASTLY

DIFFERENT. Qualitatively different.

If you can't figure out that he's totally obv-scum in this game by reading that other game... maybe meta analysis isn't your forte.

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:34 pm

In post 1797, Serene wrote:
In BSG, he's giving reads, he's voting, he's commenting, he's terse but not useless. Very unlike this game.

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:34 pm

Just to be clear:

VOTE: Nero

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:37 pm

Ignore the trolling - the evidence remains.

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:42 pm

In post 1802, Rift Adrift wrote:All of the stuff you're pointing to in the BSG game was happening in this game before the troll-feeding started

No. There are only a few posts that aren't trolling and they aren't at all like BSG.

He bus'es Calcifer, then bus'es Stevie, trolls without updating reads, without adding information, without actually pushing the Stevie lynch.

Come on now. Sometimes we want to believe really hard that some a-hole players are town. It's as if it makes us feel better about ourselves, makes us feel that we're above being trolled, and that we can co-exist with a-holes. It is a good feeling.

Except that this one is scum, and the only thing more satisfying than lynching scum, is lynching a-hole scum.

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:47 pm

In post 1804, Serene wrote:He bus'es Calcifer

actually, he's refusing to bus Calcifer and kept his vote parked on stevie until dropping a troll-vote onto ank

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:50 pm

Maybe you compared them on page 3... how could you not see the vast differences?????

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:59 pm

post #2 is a vote.
post #5 he's givine reads on 4 players.
post #8 different reads that are "preliminary" ie subject to CHANGE.
post #14 he changes his vote.
post #16 he pushes for a lynch.
post #18 he tells someone to knock off the insults.
post #19 narrows down reads to 4 scums
post #21 hints at PR content day 2.
post #24 criticizes a wagon
post #26 UNVOTES
post #27 compromise vote to be team player
post #30 responds rationally to orc's scum read on him.
post #31 expresses a very stron towng read

*********************

All that in Nero's FIRST 31 posts. I didn't even bother looking at more. HE HAS DONE NONE OF THIS HERE. NONE.

So please. All of your professing to lean on meta. LURN 2 META

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:16 pm

It's like night and day.

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:58 pm

Yeah I don't believe in "slips" and that's a particularly unconvincing one.

I also don't care about "townblocs." No one wants to lynch in this game, how you expect to get a "townbloc" going when everyone is too chicken to vote and shake people up, I dunno.

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 3:04 pm

We're too disorganized to get a wagon going! We can't add the additional hurdle of townbloc-making.

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 3:19 pm

Ah Jesus, can we get something done and lynch Nero already?

What more can I give you? Are you waiting for fingerprints and DNA evidence and high-definition video surveillance with a face and a plate number?

Nero is scum, just vote him. Why does it have to be so complicated.

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 3:19 pm

In post 1816, Shadi1337 wrote:
In post 1814, KingCrabd wrote:I read your post about shadi but I'm not sure what to make of it. You're kind of unique in the good way, I've never seen another player do that like you have. Maybe Shadi is secretly your lovechild, I dunno.

I'm liking the townbloc just fine, or did you mean something more specific?
???? what does this mean

Who cares what this means, just vote Nero.

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 3:22 pm

I gave my town reads and my scum reads. I don't sort out null reads.

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 3:26 pm

Update

TOWN

Serene
dramonic
TheIrishPope
Ankamius
ProHawk
BROseidon
Baby Spice
DOMO
Mac
orcinus_theoriginal
Rift Adrift (Syryana and fferyllt)
T S O
Zdenek
Shadi1337
KingCrabd

NULL

StubbsKVM

SCUMLIST

Metal Sonic
Nero
Calcifer
Cephrir/Doc Holliday
StevieT92
TMTOLBTWNTOF
Brian Hollywood
The Goat

Some of the lurkers on my scumlist are probably town, that'll be sorted out when they are replaced.

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 4:06 pm

Hey guys

This is page 74

We still don't have a real wagon yet

Are you trying to distract yourselves from an actual wagons with isos and metas? You should have done that 25 pages ago.

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 5:24 pm

In post 1844, ProHawk wrote:True meta does not one game make.

Hey I don't even believe in meta. I think meta anything just blows chunks. Like "slips." Slips never pan out. Neither does meta. And we've got those two meta engineers up here that read 4 posts from some random game to spit out "null light lean scum." Big fucking woop. Garbage in, garbage out.

Nero however IS scum, his behavior in this game is solidly indicative of scum alignment.

But since you guys can't get your shit together to lynch a scum, or even to seriously wagon a scum for that matter, I have to present arguments that are both distasteful to my scumhunting sensibilities and straight up wrong - except that the conclusion is correct.

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 5:27 pm

In post 1844, ProHawk wrote:I am willing to vote Nero, however my vote would be more to clear the crap from the thread rather than to lynch scum,

You're town. Wagon Nero.

Then we get a claim, we observe his behavior

in extremis

, and that is the best way to judge a player's mettle.

I'm sick of this meta bullshit.

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 5:42 pm

In post 1848, Baby Spice wrote:I think I'd be up to lynch Nero.

Just do it, enough beating around the bush.

Serene · Mon Jul 01, 2013 5:48 pm

Calciscum that wallpost is a huge waste of time. You've got some non-actionable, non-followupable questions and some wishy-washy comments.

You have to bus Nero now. Too bad you can't pick your buddies isn't it.

Serene · Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:39 am

In post 1862, Baby Spice wrote:That said, othere part of Serene needs to rein this 'yates' head in a bit.

whats really funny is that what you're calling the "yates" head is the same one that you guys were calling the "sane" head earlier.

i mean, maybe it's bias but i'm pretty sure the differences between the posting styles are pretty clear

Serene · Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:56 am

In post 1855, Nero wrote:the speed of this wagon should go someone to proving I'm town.

Hahahahaha. No.

Speedwagons = obvscumlynch = goodtowning

Serene · Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:57 am

In post 1867, Shadi1337 wrote:I'm not sure I see orc as scum? Which posts pinged? I was a bit suspicious of his read on me but I think it was town-motivated.

Orc is flamboyantly town, stop distracting please.

Serene · Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:00 am

In post 1858, Metal Sonic wrote:nero makes good responses

Guis guis

We caught another scum

Nero hasn't actually responded to anything, or in a remotely townie way, but Metal Sonic likes it.

Serene · Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:12 am

In post 1872, Serene wrote:
In post 1858, Metal Sonic wrote:nero makes good responses
Guis guis

We caught another scum

Nero hasn't actually responded to anything, or in a remotely townie way, but Metal Sonic likes it.

actually this would fall under lynch all liars

sonic is a yes man but probably not scum

Serene · Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:23 am

Alright then.

VOTE: Nero

Serene · Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:33 am

In post 1878, Metal Sonic wrote:oh and im not gonna vote nero just by virtue of supporting him

regardless of scum or town

OK now we know you're not playing to any known wincon

Or playing mafia for that matter. If you want unbreakable friendship circles, go to GD, or even MishMash I'm sure there is a game for that.

Just what this game needs, dead weight.

Serene · Tue Jul 02, 2013 3:51 am

WHY IS THIS

76

FUCKING

PAGES

DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY SCUM I USED TO HAVE DEAD BY THIS POINT?

ITS DAY FUCKING ONE. IF NO ONE GOES FULL RETARD SCUMSLIP MODE

WE PICK SOMEONE OUT OF A HAT OF HATE THATS USELESS AND HOPEFULLY SCUM

AND THEN THEY DIE

AND THEN WE MOVE THE FUCK ON TO SOME REAL CONTENT

Serene · Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:03 am

YOU KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN ORDER FOR SHADI TO FLIP TOWN?

PEOPLE TO FLIP PERIOD.

NERO 2013

ITS THE RIGHT VOTE

FOR THE RIGHT MOVE.

FORWARD.

Serene · Tue Jul 02, 2013 6:57 am

The claim is fake.

Rolecop is often a mafia role. It's pretty useless in the hands of town - one-shot rolecop is

crazy

useless for town.

Serene · Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:17 am

In post 1913, Nero wrote:im flipping town you shit cunt and all your suppositions are trash. you're a terrible player.

In post 1705, Nero wrote:coming from someone who had a mental breakdown over being fossed in a game of forum mafia.

Serene · Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:30 am

In post 1924, Nero wrote:also you're shit.

i'm comfortable with that

Serene · Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:42 am

sorry, unvoting scum would be counter to my win condition

Serene · Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:38 pm

Meta schmeta

No one cares about some 1-shot scum power role but the scum.

I'm pretty sure the "1-shot" and the "town" part are fake. He's the scum rolecop.

He's calling it one-shot so as to explain his continued survival and in anticipation of not sharing results with the town. Because. He's! Scum!

Serene · Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:42 pm

In post 1931, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:suddenly i'm not so sure about nero's scumminess

he didn't respond this harshly in bsg

You know if you guys are going to invoke meta like it's some god that will make you win the lottery, at least be logical.

He was scum in that game where he did NOOOOOOTTTTTT respond harshly, by your own logic you should reach the correct conclusion that he's scum here.

Somehow you're not.

In conclusion: meta is shit. No one has what it takes to meta correctly even if it had any value. If you can't meta, just stop it with the meta. Stay in the game. It's in the game.

Serene · Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:09 pm

Meta is stupid

You guys can't even meta properly

Even if you did it properly meta sucks

Nero is scum regardless of any meta

confirm: VOTE: Nero

Serene · Tue Jul 02, 2013 6:19 pm

Two more votes and we have a lynch.

GO GO GO

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:14 am

In post 1974, Nero wrote:
In post 1937, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:nero certainly didn't swear and fuck around as much in BSG as he's doing in this game (and by the looks of it, in his other scumgames too)

In post 1937, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:nero certainly didn't swear and fuck around as much in BSG as he's doing in this game (and by the looks of it, in his other scumgames too)
Cuz this has turned personal.

Anyways, I appoint you chief serene basher. gl

ftr im a vanilla townie, wanted to guilty stevie tomorrow but seems I wont live that long.

Changing your claim won't help you and is generally something that only a few people can pull off.

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 1:41 am

In post 1985, Metal Sonic wrote:
In post 1894, Nero wrote:repeat after me:

"If Nero flips town I promise to completely ignore the user Serene and his/her for the rest of the duration of this game."
good job orc you rock

i love you guys

He's not flipping town, one of our heads even suggested he might fake a guilty tomorrow as the roleclaim sounded bogus to all three of us.

But it's nice to see that at least two players in the list would be willing to carry on with the legacy of a another player who is not playing to any known wincon and should have been modkilled, whose M.O. is to poison the game for everyone else, who planned to troll the town with a fake guilty (yeah, Nero has got to be a Nero Cain alt) as his only "contribution" to the game and who didn't even wake up to help push his tunnel-du-jour when:

In post 969, Serene wrote:I'm sorry. I drowned some ceremonial kittens in the Ganges and I'm feeling better.
VOTE: Stevie

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:00 am

In post 1988, Metal Sonic wrote:the wager here is that if he flips town we will ignore you

Fair enough, we were already ignoring

you

and planned to continue no matter what. It's all good.

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:04 am

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Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:08 am

In post 1991, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:well the supposed gambit that he did

What you described is not a gambit but run-of-the-mill asshatery.

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:30 am

Here's your VC:

Nero is at L-1.

Hammer away.

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:37 am

In post 1998, TheIrishPope wrote:Nero, final words? Reads? Anything?

No one wants his last words.

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:38 am

In post 1999, Metal Sonic wrote:remember serene

if nacho flips town i will flip you over

Nacho/Calcifer is guaranteed scum.

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:39 am

If I were scum I would totally encourage everyone to carry lifelong grudges over mislynches, the manipulation and extended mislynch potential just have me jizzing all over the scum QT.

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:41 am

EBWOP

just have me jizzing all over the scum QT.
*would* have me jizzing all over the scum QT.

I apologize to anyone that might have found my grammatical oversight coarse and vulgar.

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:42 am

Looks like IrishPope has lost his grip on his hammerballs.

bock bock

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:47 am

You're defending a guy that thinks cunt is a witty retort, has changed his claim, said he planned to fake a guilty, has admitted to not playing to wincon and refuses to play the game.
And on top of all that he's scum.

So if you decide to turn tomorrow into a pissing contest, that's on you. Just remember its better to be pissed off than pissed on.

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:49 am

Deadline: Wednesday, July 8, 2013 at 3pm Central Time.

Deadline is in 6 hours. No other lynch is happening.

We have have our golden showers some other time.

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:52 am

I'm not going to be "pissing" on anyone tomorrow. I'm just not that into the toilet stuff. Hell and brimstone, lava and magma... more fun.

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:53 am

In post 2010, TheIrishPope wrote:I just wanted Nero to talk first

No one cares, he's had 75 pages to talk, you can hammer him now and iso him all night for his wisdom.

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:57 am

In post 2014, Rift Adrift wrote:
In post 2010, TheIrishPope wrote:I just wanted Nero to talk first
And that's a good thing.

Jesus. This is for almost every player here.

Between your reliance on meta as if it was truth from the pulpit, your collective inability to do meta, your reluctance to lynch anyone that you have a precious null read on, and your willingness to give scum further and further opportunities to AtE and trash the game... I think I'm going to go and slice myself with Ginsu knives.

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:01 am

Obvious bus is obvious

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:02 am

In post 2015, Serene wrote:
In post 2014, Rift Adrift wrote:
In post 2010, TheIrishPope wrote:I just wanted Nero to talk first
And that's a good thing.
Jesus. This is for almost every player here.

Between your reliance on meta as if it was truth from the pulpit, your collective inability to do meta, your reluctance to lynch anyone that you have a precious null read on, and your willingness to give scum further and further opportunities to AtE and trash the game... I think I'm going to go and slice myself with Ginsu knives.

Look at what they've done to you. You used to be the nice head.

I still think you're nice <3

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:03 am

Nero will flip town Asshat. But we've been keeping track of things.

Below is a list of the scum that were willing to exploit a naked policy lynch:

Stevie

for the super obvious Beetlejuice act & wagon hop

Calcifer

for deftly keeping out of it completely with pointless posts about nothing, then not voting Nero after posting some indirect comment that he doesn't believe the claim in #1909. Calcifer is still scum for his ATE. Emotional appeal isn't always scummy but his was. I told you guys that we should lynch Calcifer, but this game was like a cat race and the scum weren't bus'ing

The Irish Pope

is no longer town for his reaction to the claim and asking for permission to hammer.

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:05 am

In post 2019, Nero wrote:orc, dram, serene and cept are 100% town.

Sorry kid, we knew you were town this morning but between the tunnelers, the grudge-holders and, the meta-believers and all of the precious null reads, there was no lynching anyone else. We tried a bunch of wagons but we kept being thwarted by precious null reads.

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:06 am

You could have helped us when we try to start a Stevie wagon.

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:07 am

In post 2023, TheIrishPope wrote:Good luck getting support for my lynch

Good luck getting support for ANY lynch with this crowd.

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:08 am

Not to mention we really hate when towns piss around and derail wagons for no good reason

If you'd just kept your trolling ass shut, we coulda been had Stevie lynched but nooooo you wanted to play Internet cool guy

Go be cool in the dead QT you pirate mollie wannabe

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:10 am

Lol

And you were so insufferable and unreadable that the town strung you up regardless of it being a grudge lynch

And yet you think I'm bad? Please.

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:10 am

In post 2029, Nero wrote:that was such an obvious grudge lynch, you're a pathetic butthurt shit cunt. kill yourself and fry the remains.

Consider yourself schooled in the art of engineering a policy lynch and using it to find real scum.

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:12 am

You can't find scum without vigorous wagons.

You need to put null reads aside to get the ball rolling.

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:14 am

In post 2032, Nero wrote:I was pushing on stevie the whole game you fucking autist.

99.5% of your posts were useless insults instead of cases and arguments to convince players to drop a null read or two and vote for your target Stevie.

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:14 am

And he'd have been lynched if you'd kept your dick in your pants and stopped responding to our posts with variations of cunt and telling us to shut up

That's on you. Always and forever.

Damn shame too, I actually kinda like your attitude. Get better at mafia and learn to troll better and maybe we could have been brothers.

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:17 am

In post 2034, Nero wrote:Orcinus, you're officially being handed over the reins.

Sorry, the Hold-A-Grudge game is in MishMash. This is mafia. We mislynch people, we lynch scum, we make arguments, we try to persuade a crowd to work towards a common goal.

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:18 am

One day you will learn

Insults and rage are only part of the Path. They are not the path alone.

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:18 am

In post 2039, Nero wrote:just shut the fuck up, you've already lost any authority that you might have had in this game.

It's better to have loved and lost than to have never loved at all.

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:21 am

In post 2042, Rift Adrift wrote:
In post 2024, Serene wrote:
In post 2019, Nero wrote:orc, dram, serene and cept are 100% town.
Sorry kid, we knew you were town this morning but between the tunnelers, the grudge-holders and, the meta-believers and all of the precious null reads, there was no lynching anyone else. We tried a bunch of wagons but we kept being thwarted by precious null reads.
jesus christ

Not quite though I am his vessel.

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:25 am

In post 2045, Rift Adrift wrote:Serene if players can't trust you to be honest with town then you are worthless to town.

I've been brutally honest.

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:28 am

In post 2047, Rift Adrift wrote:Not about the change in your Nero read. If it was a change.

We needed a lynch, moreso because we've been unsuccessful wagoning anyone above 4 votes all day. It's a strategic sacrifice.

We really need to get our act together and LURN 2 WAGUN

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:30 am

We should have been able to take 4 or 5 players close to the tip over point of 80% of the votes. That's the golden hour where you can reaction-test people and judge them best. Much better than all that pissing meta.

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:32 am

Sometimes to make an omelette you gotta break some eggs

Sometimes the most protown move is to remove a poisonous influence

A player that would rather insult than play, blatantly play against wincon and admit to wanting to fake claim is a poison on the town.

But what do I care, I'm dead tonight anyway

Actually I bet scum will call themselves clever and kill one of Neros friends to frame us but now they can't cause I just said it. Ohhhh shit.

Best to just kill us instead.

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:34 am

Now we've got an 82-page Day 1 that has a single useful wagon. The entire rest of the day is complete trash for analysis. What use is a Day 1 4-person wagon when that player flips? No use whatsoever. There is no data.

If we had used that extra week we would have pissed it away to 120 pages.

Now tomorrow we'll have a flip, 40 pages less of morass than if we went on until July 8, results from the night PRs, and hopefully lesson learned.

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:56 am

Of course I responded to his insults.

I can only be nice for so long. When I wasn't responding, he was still replying constantly with "shut up cunt" and the like.

Fuck that.

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 5:07 am

You coulda been somebody if you'd learned to harvest your rage

Instead you play like you just got here from epicmafia.

I predict you find yourself modkilled or sitebanned within six months

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 5:09 am

AhahahHahahhahahahahahHagahgaggagahagavgaagahhaha

Ahahhahahahahhahahahhaha

Ahahhahahhahahahahaha

Fuck my spleen

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 5:11 am

>predicted you would be town
>predicted you would fake a guilty
>predicted you were from epicmafia

Nailed it 3/3

DADDY YOU'RE A DRUNK, NOW I WORSHIP RAVEN

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:34 am

Every player that posted post-lynch is 100% confirmed town on the NEVERLYNCH list.

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:40 am

Yeah, a townie is lynched, scum has little use for twilight mud slinging. It's risky, they could say the wrong thing, get vig'ed or investigated.

Stevie, Calcifer and possibly IrishPope are the most suspicious players on the wagon.

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 7:41 am

In post 2074, Rift Adrift wrote:p sure Calcifer isn't on the wagon. His vote was on bulba last I checked.

That's even scummier.

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 7:42 am

In post 2076, Zdenek wrote:I really wish that we'd lynched Stevie.
I don't see why we couldn't have done that.

Such is life.

I know. I tried.

But some people had important null reads and wouldn't vote.

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 7:47 am

I was actually voting Stevie from

page 39

to

page 72.

How many of you voted Stevie, too?

NO ONE.

How many times did Nero show support for a Stevie wagon?

NO TIME.

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 7:48 am

In post 2084, Rift Adrift wrote:I don't get the Stevie hate.

And that's why we can't get wagons.

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 7:49 am

In post 2084, Rift Adrift wrote:I've read through the most recent of his scum and town games

You can shove all meta up where the sun don't shine.

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 7:52 am

In post 2089, Rift Adrift wrote:When you aren't willing to compromise

Oh come on, some player, I forget who, was raking me over the coals for starting too many wagons.

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:00 am

Who is on your scumlist, Rift?

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:05 am

In post 2097, StevieT92 wrote:Zdenek hammer your buddy please

Zdenek is town, the joke is on you, scum.

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:07 am

In post 2100, Nero wrote:you're actually retarded.

If you want to be technical, I'm brain damaged.

You kept insulting me in pretty much 100% of your posts instead of reminding people to vote Stevie, so suck it up.

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:11 am

I could have easily gone off on Bulba (and I have but people had precious null reads on him), The Goat I recall was on my replace-in scumlist for sure, and I came around on Cephrir-scum while your read waned. I think Shadi is town.

But.

Everyone filled their diapers at the thought of a 5+ wagon.

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:14 am

In post 2104, Rift Adrift wrote:And there's nothing conclusive in his meta so far. Hence my not getting the Stevie hate.

Screw meta, and hold the jelly.

Look at THIS FUCKING GAME

The one we're playing right now.

Stevie is scum right here under your nose and you're looking at all his old games and shedding tears over him.

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:14 am

If you wait for posts that alarm you, you will never lynch anyone.

Scum slips are more likely statistically to catch town.

No. Start off reading everyone as scum and work your way backwards as they look more town. Town reads should be precious gold in the desert, not the default.

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:15 am

In post 2106, Rift Adrift wrote:I wish you had gone off on Bulba.

Two of our 3 heads went full RAGECAP on him and don't even think we recruited one player to the wagon.

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:17 am

We're trying to tell you that meta is a tool but not the be all end all

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:27 am

It's because we expect you to bus

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:29 am

In post 2115, Calcifer wrote:Ironically enough for someone calling us scum, you sure seem to be ignorant of our vote; it was shortly after you made your BulbaFenix case that Nacho first switched to BulbaFenix.

Yeah, I said scum on the wagon, but I was really talking about players' reaction to the wagon. Scum. You know you're scum. You're going to have to NK me.

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:31 am

In post 2113, Calcifer wrote:So, can you talk to me about Goat and TSO? I guess also BulbaFenix (since, again, not strong read), though the other two are more important. (That said, I vaguely recall having Goat as a scumread way back when, but that opinion's so dated that I'm not sure how valid it is

Thanks for the scummy hot air, though.

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:33 am

In post 2118, Calcifer wrote:Won't work then just as it didn't work today.

Yeah because the scum isn't bus'ing and townies have null reads on all the scum.

You're right. I'll never see you hang.

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:43 am

In post 2123, TheIrishPope wrote:Welcome, replacement person

I like you.

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:46 am

In post 2118, Calcifer wrote:If you got a problem with that, you're free to try and lynch me tomorrow. Won't work then just as it didn't work today.

cheeky scumfuck

Serene · Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:47 am

Thank you everyone that went along with the L-1 fakehammer vote gambit.

Serene · Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:47 am

Zdenek is soooooooooooooooo town.

Serene · Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:25 am

In post 2162, StevieT92 wrote:
Daykill: Zdenek

Let's hope I'm right..

In post 2174, BROseidon wrote:Also can we stop with the dayvig reaction test already? It's really fucking dumb and needs to be killed with fire.

it's one of my pet peeves

also dayvigs are explicitly non-normal which makes it obviously not real

Serene · Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:27 am

In post 2177, dramonic wrote:
In post 2176, Serene wrote:also dayvigs are explicitly non-normal which makes it obviously not real
wait really?
DAMMIT

mafiascum wiki wrote: Roles which are explicitly Non-Normal include:
Non-Sane Cop,
Blank Vig
, Non-Sane or Quack Doctor, Janitor, Survivor, Lyncher, Cultist, Jester, Mafia Mason, Bus Driver, Lightning Rod, Nexus, Redirector, Framer.

Serene · Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:28 am

i fucked up the quote tags but you get the idea

Serene · Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:31 am

huh i'll be damned

Serene · Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:35 am

In post 2183, DOMO wrote:dayvig gambits suck. Has anyone ever been caught by one?

no but i once saw town fake a dayvig gambit and then get counterclaimed by the actual dayvig who proved it by shooting a third player

that third player was bulletproof scum

Serene · Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:21 pm

In post 2186, DOMO wrote:Why is zdenek town serene?

The infinite cosmos have spoken this read to us. We have drunk of the tea leaves and we have foreseen his destiny. His flip shall be in glorious green.

To be more specific, Zdenek has been active, he has been scumhunting, he has been more than willing to push his scumreads and though his posts are short (as always), they are of substance.

In post 2190, BROseidon wrote:pedit: DAYVIG KILLS LIKE THAT ARE ALMOST ALWAYS FUCKING GAMBITS CAN WE STOP GIVING THEM EVEN ANY AMOUNT OF PLAUSIBILITY SO THAT PEOPLE WILL STOP DOING THEM ALREADY.

I blame DGB for the proliferation of dayvig gambits around the site.

In post 2199, The Goat wrote:
vote: Stevie

Serene, after reading through the later stages of D1, I'd prefer that you try to behave a lot more pro-town. Thanks in advance.

You first, sir lurksalot.

In post 2206, Calcifer wrote:By the way, the Stevie wagon sucks.

Why are you so reluctant to bus?

Serene · Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:26 pm

In post 2199, The Goat wrote:
vote: Stevie

Serene, after reading through the later stages of D1, I'd prefer that you try to behave a lot more pro-town. Thanks in advance.

Said the scum with 10 posts totalling 13 sentences.

Serene · Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:29 pm

@ Calcifer

I must ask you a question about your action last night. Who did you target? I only need to know the name of the target.

Serene · Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:31 pm

In post 2200, Calcifer wrote:I like ProHawk dying

ProHawk was so town it hurt.

Serene · Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:34 pm

Yeah no.

Serene · Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:34 pm

If you don't send a action, could the mod have sent a random target for you?

Serene · Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:35 pm

In post 2221, Calcifer wrote:I have Stevie as town.

Explain that while you're at it.

Serene · Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:37 pm

@Me:

In post 1, PeregrineV wrote:III) If no action is received, no action will be taken. All actions received after the deadline has passed will not be valid.

Serene · Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:38 pm

Truthy-time for Calcifer!

Serene · Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:19 pm

In post 2227, Serene wrote:Truthy-time for Calcifer!

I'm losing patience.

Serene · Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:20 pm

In post 2233, The Goat wrote:Strong Town Reads:
Rift Adrift
zdenek

Leaning Town:
TMTOLBTWNTOF
Serene
BulbaFenix

Leaning Scum:
BROseidon
DOMO

Strong Scum Reads:
StevieT92

Unsatisfactory Day 2 contribution.

Serene · Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:20 pm

VOTE: Calcifer

Serene · Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:49 pm

Calcifer, surrender.

Serene · Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:53 pm

In post 2246, Calcifer wrote:
In post 2244, Serene wrote:Calcifer, surrender.
Are you claiming that my assertion that I did not target anyone last night is false?

Your scum faction killed ProHawk.

Serene · Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:58 pm

I am a Mason so I am not a tracker.

I'm just reading between the lines of your posts. Your team killed ProHawk.

Serene · Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:59 pm

Calcifer's confession:

In post 2200, Calcifer wrote:I like ProHawk dying but both dying together makes no sense unless both scumteams used their kills to scumhunt.

Serene · Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:01 pm

Translation: Calcifer used his factional kill to scum hunt and thought ProHawk belonged to another scum team.

Reading between the lines of another post today, I'm going to wager that one kill was thwarted.

Serene · Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:05 pm

In other words, there are two scum teams.

ProHawk was killed by Calcifer's team who thought he was on another scum team.

TiP was vig'ed, which is a shame because he was pretty townie.

The other scum team's kill didn't go through.

Serene · Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:10 pm

Oh look Calciscum is trying to make KingCrabd do his dirty work.

Serene · Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:25 pm

In post 2269, Calcifer wrote:What are we going to do about Brian Hollywood?

aka "anyone but me"

Serene · Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:26 pm

In post 2277, Calcifer wrote:
In post 2273, Rift Adrift wrote:We're in all likelihood going to get around to lynching him if he doesn't start playing the game.
We have him and Goat and Thirdkoopa who can all die instant deaths from where I'm standing. I'm still looking for more.

aka "anyone but me"

Serene · Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:26 pm

In post 2254, Calcifer wrote:
Vote: Thirdkoopa

In post 2145, Thirdkoopa wrote:I swear I'll catch up, but if anyone thinks it's a better idea to just get a tl;dr (Even though I feel that's pretty anti-town) that would be good for now since we're far after RVS. At least, I hope we are... Right?
"If anyone thinks that this antitown thing is a good idea, then let's do it!"

aka "anyone but me"

Serene · Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:26 pm

In post 2261, Calcifer wrote:
In post 2171, KingCrabd wrote:Well, I was about to say I was coming around to stevie being town, but then the past two pages or so happened. WTF?

TBH for now, I'm lynching from a pool of {Stevie, Hollywood, TMT} but I'm thinking my TMT read needs to be reset after pulling some light metaskims and seeing him get mislynched pretty much in every completed town game he has.

VOTE: stevie
Cabd, how did metadiving go?

aka "anyone but me"

Serene · Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:28 pm

In post 2282, Zdenek wrote:Stay the course.
Lynch Stevie.

If you agree that Calcifer is a bloated scumbag, I will.

Serene · Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:29 pm

Between Crabd & Calcifer there is one scum buddying the townie.

Serene · Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:30 pm

In post 2286, Zdenek wrote:Deal.

VOTE: Stevie

Serene · Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:31 pm

In post 2290, Calcifer wrote:
In post 2284, KingCrabd wrote:
In post 2279, Calcifer wrote:
In post 2276, KingCrabd wrote:Rift, yesterday you called bulba's nero vote a bus. With nero's townflip, I see you voted bulba again. Can you explain what changed/what didn't change?
that was syryana
Notice I said "rift" not "ffery"
you don't know how syryana works, do you?

You two get a room.