There is only room for one royalty and that shall be me!
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I'm the evil queen.^
You know me, but I'm just in a hydra.In post 16, jbomber732 wrote:yay for rvs!Vote Bluebecause hes the only person in the game I remember
Hmmmm.
Two players in one account who share the same role PM. They are fun and a learning experience.In post 28, burn_209 wrote:This is my first game with a "hydra." What are they and why do people do them? Lol
A PineApple Under the Sea.In post 30, Antihero wrote:6 months and you don't know what a hydra isIn post 28, burn_209 wrote:This is my first game with a "hydra." What are they and why do people do them? Lol
...what rock have you been living under?
Your open-ended question about Grey claiming Jester draws no conclusion or line of inquiry really, so why ask it? Do you think it's a scum move from him or not?In post 72, MonkeyMan576 wrote:You're right.
A) I am town
B) I didn't read the setup, and corrected my mistake.
So it seems Grey is claiming Jester without a Jester as a role?
So what did you get? What's your current read on GreyICE?In post 189, MonkeyMan576 wrote:I was trying to get a responce from other players. I like to get other people's opinions before I draw conculsions for the most part. I don't necessarily think it is scummy, but I do know Jesters are rare on this site, so it is suspicious.Turkish Van wrote: Your open-ended question about Grey claiming Jester draws no conclusion or line of inquiry really, so why ask it? Do you think it's a scum move from him or not?
Just think of hydras as one player, but sometimes they don't always agree with each other reads, but others tend to take the discussion in regards to that elsewhere and not in the thread.In post 140, jbomber732 wrote:This is my first non-newbie game, so I'm a bit confused with some things, such as hydras. But I'm a quick learner and hopefully you don't judge me just because im less experienced.
I noted the same thing with PereV. My last completed game he ended up being engaged and active and I thought it was a towntell for him and it turned out he was some type of third party. So here's where my read with PereV kinda meshes up with yours. I'm not going to be so quick to call him town, but I'm not going to be so quick to call him scum either.In post 144, beastcharizard wrote:
Twisted kind of looks town.
Anti is probably town.
PV isn't lurking so it is worrying me some.
Hopkirk is scum.
Ftr, someone playing the newb card doesn't make them scum.In post 158, beastcharizard wrote:It was clearly RVS. Metal was the only one not confirmed at that point so I used it as my fun reason.
I know the following players from another site as well:
notscience
Katarina
Hopkirk
Metal Sonic
I like choosing them as my RVS targets if I am in a game with them.
Can you explain your reads please? Kat has said like 2 things and Metal has said like 1 thing yet one is slight scum and the other needs more? Neither have posted content so i am curious how you got those reads. I agree with the jbomber scum read only because they played the new card and their reads don't make much sense to me. How is Hopkirk town exactly?
Where's PereV at all in this list as you seem to not have put his name in a list. I don't agree with the quick scumread on BC, can you explain that for me? Also how is Bob a townread?In post 157, Kublai Khan wrote:
Early Reads:
Townish: Bicephalous Bob, Twisted Advice, Hopkirk
Need further study: Lords of the Unreal, mafiaSSK, burn_209, Metal Sonic, notsience, Turkish Van, Guzame?
slight scum: Katarina LeBlanc, beastcharizard, Antihero, MonkeyMan576
Strongest scum-feelings: GreyICE, jbomber732
I don't really like this post at all. When you first posted your RVS I thought maybe you accidentally slipped in RVS'ing a buddy and his name is different in the mafia QT than it is in the game. There's just something about this post that I don't like at all.In post 177, jbomber732 wrote:@kk I voted bob in the RVS, not because of any scumread. I already said that before. I mentioned that I thought there was someone in the game named blue and I voted for them cuz i dont lke that color. I realized there wasnt and changed my RV. I'm sorry that I can't expand my townread on hop, but i get town vibes from him.
I dislike this post also, does this make me scum?In post 193, Katarina LeBlanc wrote:It's more of a gut whoever doesn't agree with me is probably-scum and I didn't like the tone of his posts reading back :3
I also hate how you reacted to Antihero, but ignored the vote placed on you by my partner.
I dislike this fast sheep. Baaaaaa goes Prince Charming before he was Prince Charming.In post 206, MonkeyMan576 wrote:jbomber brings up a good point. There has been lots of activity so far not to have any scumreads.
FOS: Guzame
Explain please?In post 207, GreyICE wrote:PSA: Monkey is town
Shush about this game. Do not reference it again until I let you know it's safe to do.In post 239, jbomber732 wrote:*sigh* Ok listen. Just because I don't act the way a town should most of the time, doesn't mean that I'm not town. Frankly, I act so scummy, and I even know it. You can ask mala, who in a previous game saw this exact thing happen to me. That's why I was excited mala was here, because there'd be someone who knows how I play, and wouldn't be so fast to jump on me.
I am Mala, why would I lie to you about that?In post 254, jbomber732 wrote:Ok I think you're mala, so the reason I said that I didn't want anyone to judge me for being newbie is that I thought it might influence their reads in some way. I voted for "blue" because for some reason I thought there was someone named blue in the game. Also, what is a mafia QT? In the game where I was mafia I don't remember a "QT" And sorry I didn't know that I couldn't reference other games. But what I said doesn't really matter at all does it?
This was your first post and your RVS. You voted them because it was the only person in the game you remember.In post 16, jbomber732 wrote:yay for rvs!Vote Bluebecause hes the only person in the game I remember
Then you added here that you voted them because you didn't like the color.
Anyways, I decided to pull up the only mafia game on this site. You probably don't remember the mafia QT because you never posted in it. it's hereIn post 177, jbomber732 wrote:@kk I voted bob in the RVS, not because of any scumread. I already said that before. I mentioned that I thought there was someone in the game named blue and I voted for them cuz i dont lke that color. I realized there wasnt and changed my RV. I'm sorry that I can't expand my townread on hop, but i get town vibes from him.
Why do you care about our opinion that much? But sure, we'll call you town as long as you keep amusing us. Gut doubts you'd throw yourself onto our radar like that as scum. More seriously, you do tend to become clear cut sooner rather than later, so I'm not overly worried about you wriggling away.In post 261, notscience wrote:Hey Mala
You and peng should have a long discussion about the following topics
1) Why isn't ns in our townreads yet
2) When we put him in our townreads do we put him in the "holy fuck he's town" slot, the "obvtown" slot, or the "holy fuck he's obvtown" slot
Can someone on the hopkirk wagon (I'd prefer one of the later votes) explain why it's a thing? "Bcoz he's scummy" is not an answer.
Do you see MafiaSSK as non-lynchbait?In post 303, notscience wrote:Then both of you get your heads out of your asses and put your vote on something that isn't lynchbait
What gets me about Kublai Khan's stance on Hopkirk and beast is that he doesn't have a clear read on Hopkirk any longer (citing post 174 as bad enough to throw his town read on Hopkirk into doubt) but he's still drawing conclusions about beast from beast's interactions with Hopkirk. The logic presented is disjointed in a way that could come from scum being artificial or town considering multiple angles. That he pings as town for other aspects of his play (willingness to be antagonistic, mostly) makes me lean town in his motivations.In post 340, Antihero wrote:this would be good if khan was... i don't know.. an "intermediate" player (like me)In post 337, Turkish Van wrote:Grey, I'm not sure about Khan right now; I agree that his stances are less than solid, but I'm also seeing some genuine attempts to figure people out in the process. I disagree about jbomber quite a bit though. His reaction to you calling him out on not voting doesn't read scummy. He eventually places a vote but didn't exactly leap to appease you in the process. I'd expect scum to move one way or hte other, especially with the slight town read on you he professed right around the time you called him out. Brown-nosing scum seem more likely to do that along with placing a vote, or get paralyzed and not vote at all.
given his join date, i would think his scum game has advanced beyond that
what i said before about beast and the hard line defense of bob bugs me, but you're saying that you think it's an attempt to figure something out?
...I think we've established that I at least read you for shit when you're scum. Your call if that's more due to my lousy town play or your selectively good scum play; I'm not picky.In post 343, Antihero wrote:actually, just had a look at khan's profile and it's about comparable to mine. i have a pretty unusually crappy scum game, though.
whatever. the last line of the above post still stands. my general point was that any scumbag who isn't terrible could pretty easily evade penny's scumtells
Like I said, I didn't read the whole game because I replaced into the claimed one-shot cop slot overnight and the last scum got quicklynched the next day. Just checked out the generalities of what happened. Interesting choice to get yourself run up as the IC, but one can hardly argue with the outcome of a game that lynched all three scum by the end of Day Three.In post 363, Kublai Khan wrote:And your summary of the Pick Your Poison game you saw me in is inaccurate. I played in a way to get myself run up Day 1 because I was an Innocent Child. I figured it was a free Day 1 bandwagon. I'm going to assume that your description wasn't an attempt at a misrep.
I don't really see Khan as scum.In post 382, GreyICE wrote:Why are people not voting to lynch Khan?
I really am curious.
PV - your list is the most confusing thing ever
Don't like this post~In post 428, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Sorry, I have been dumbfounded by the lack of activity. Bicephalous Bob, Hopkirk, beastcharizard, and burn_209 would all be fine lynches in my book.
In post 434, MonkeyMan576 wrote:1) This is day 1, how much content do you expect?
2) I was plenty active at the beginning of the day, there is no rule saying hyperactivity is the best way to catch scum.
3) What exactly have you done to scumhunt?
I think beast is town. Mala isn't 100% on that. Katarina-wise, I'm sticking with the vote for now because I just can't stand the way she's reveling in not playing the game. The sticking point I'd that I'm not sure scum have motive to play like that. But such a thought goes double for town, so then I'm back to wanting her dead.In post 455, notscience wrote:Mala/PA what are you guys thinking regarding (beast, Katarina)
In post 476, GreyICE wrote:In post 468, mnemonicdevice wrote:Greetings and Hello everyone!
Sorry that guzame didn't post anything of content.
Ashmed Tell, 100% autolynch
Vote: mnemonicdevice
Free day 1 scum lynch
I saw this too. If there was any doubt I felt you weren't town it's gone now. I think you're town.~
Which in itself is different.~In post 483, mnemonicdevice wrote:Alright. I didn't get to read again this morning, but should tonight. I will post then.
Also, I side with Jason on that TSO did nothing wrong.
In post 576, mnemonicdevice wrote:Two things:
One: can someone tell me what the amished tell is? is it on the wiki?
Two: I still don't understand why some people think I'm a better lynch than bob. Instead of claiming, he stalled until votes moved somewhere else. And, he hasn't even attempted to be remotely helpful.
Fucking sick of this shit. if you join a game then play it, if you don't want to play then replace out. This goes for Kat also and those who aren't playing like they should.In post 582, Metal Sonic wrote:I lied. I always forget I am on this game and forget to read it
Grey wasnt in the last game.In post 661, Katarina LeBlanc wrote:Oh man I get to be first.
This is the second game I've seen Grey die n1. PeregrineV died first as well in the 1st Knight's Errant, right? ThIS mUst BE A CLUE
One is pretty going. The other people are talking about, but explain twisted? I'm reading him as Slighty town.In post 716, Hopkirk wrote:Bob, mafia ssk and twisted- these would be nice lynches.
It's Mala I'm just constricted to a phone so can't image GiF.In post 720, Antihero wrote:oh hey penny and/or mala
so, are you going to be the ones to break this groupthink circle jerk and vote khan with me?
Khan's D1 didn't end up doing much, but I don't mind his Katarina vote, and I'd like to see what he does having presumably vented his spleen at Twisted Advice and without the argument potential with GreyICE.In post 720, Antihero wrote:oh hey penny and/or mala
so, are you going to be the ones to break this groupthink circle jerk and vote khan with me?
What happened to this?In post 603, Antihero wrote:...and here comes scumbuddy bob, giving zombie man the "OMG, i'm mislynchedIn post 601, Bicephalous Bob wrote:this "clarification" was both hilarious and townishIn post 580, mnemonicdevice wrote:Not whether or not they are scum
mneu are you often lynched as townall the time, poor me" out.
Right, I agree. So what do you think of Katarina and Hopkirk?In post 729, Antihero wrote:it was bluster. i ripped a page from kuribo's playbook: everyone not killing what i'm killing is scum. (see: metal sonic) again, i don't think bob is likely groupscum.
This rubs me the wrong way. Not sure if it's fishing or just in general. If you think someone slipped insider information, why did you automatically jump that it has to beIn post 738, Twisted Advice wrote:Apologies for my lack of presence yesterday. The affairs of the kingdom and various other real life issues took precedence. I should be here with more consistency now.
Metal Sonic, could you explain post 730 and 731 for me? It looks suspiciously like you slipped insider information and tried to cover it with nonsensical jabbering as appears to be your trademark.
VOTE: Metal Sonic
~The Royal Vizier
Not really terrible no, it's a decent scumhunting tech.In post 744, Bicephalous Bob wrote:yeah but relying on slips is terrible
anyway khan was the only one to seriously respond to my rambling about pv
that would be the worst thing to do if he was scum
but maybe I'm giving him too much credit
Two scum role blockers?In post 711, Metal Sonic wrote:Ok I just spent 10 minutes and took a look at the board
There are 2 scum role blockers
No wonder it was difficult possibilities. Look like we must wait for another scum to flip.
In post 748, Turkish Van wrote:Two scum role blockers?In post 711, Metal Sonic wrote:Ok I just spent 10 minutes and took a look at the board
There are 2 scum role blockers
No wonder it was difficult possibilities. Look like we must wait for another scum to flip.
Reasons for Khan and Hopkirk please?In post 774, jbomber732 wrote:I scum read mafia ssk, bob (duh) and (very lightly) monkey man
Meanwhile khan, me, hop, and katarina are all town, so unvote off of them please.
And Katarina?In post 797, Kublai Khan wrote:Post 596In post 794, Antihero wrote:right...In post 780, Kublai Khan wrote:Katarina LeBlanc and MonkeyMan576 are most likely to flip scum according to my re-read.
a sentence or two about this...?
:rolls eyes: Assuming you're talking to us, a) I'm asking KK why he's scum reading you, b) I have no interest in a town block, never mind determining who's in it, and c) oddly enough I don't think you're scum for some stuff that's gone down this day phase. I do think you're damn unhelpful town, and I'd like to see that change, as my impression of you from our brief time together in Micro 273 was that you were competent. And I read some of a large theme you were in too (Touhou) and had a favorable impression.In post 800, Katarina LeBlanc wrote:ER, why are you so bloodthirsty for me. You seem to think you can leash me up and have me kneel for you as if you're controlling who is and isnt in the townblock.
That just makes me more prone to messing with you :3
Sorry, I'm not super-coherent in the morning. Was reading everything that had been said since the last time I read the game, and Antihero's ambivalent read on burn was the only thing I found particularly interesting/discussion-worthy. Since the Twisted Advice-Antihero squabbling made my eyes glaze over.In post 874, beastcharizard wrote:It was my scum day but thanks bomber.
Turkish, was there a reason you commented on burn that I am missing? It seems completely random and out of place to me.
I differ with you here; any positives I had on MonkeyMan576 are getting stale quickly.In post 920, Twisted Advice wrote:What's with you and voting really townie players, Kublai Khan?
~The Royal Vizier
What does this have to do with anything? I'd rather hear what you think of ns, especially after you voted SSK as 'most likely to go through'In post 968, Hopkirk wrote:What do you think of ssk?In post 960, Turkish Van wrote:Getting bored waiting for ns to be useful.
VOTE: notscience
--PA (and Mala endorses this too...)
In post 882, Kublai Khan wrote:Can we shit-can all SK-hunting talk? Because it's the most anti-town thing to do.
Yes, the SK has a night-kill and can kill townies. Sure, whatever. But right now the night fighting is the mafia trying to kill the SK and vice-versa. As long as both need to kill each other, they are (or should) be leaving the towniest players alone and going after the lurkers and the anti-town. If we try to and succeed in lynching the SK, then the mafia can switch to hunting and eliminating town PRs.
So anyone trying to lynch a serial killer right now is hurting town. So, let's stop being dumb.
Listen to me closely. We actually are ahead of plan this game than we were last game. We have two mafia out of four gone by not even Night 2. We caught the SK last game only because Beast claimed trying to night kill and failing. Town actually got fucken lucky last game due to that. Then we caught the last scum due to a guilty from the SK if I'm remembering correctly.In post 979, Katarina LeBlanc wrote:What.In post 977, Turkish Van wrote:In post 882, Kublai Khan wrote:Can we shit-can all SK-hunting talk? Because it's the most anti-town thing to do.
Yes, the SK has a night-kill and can kill townies. Sure, whatever. But right now the night fighting is the mafia trying to kill the SK and vice-versa. As long as both need to kill each other, they are (or should) be leaving the towniest players alone and going after the lurkers and the anti-town. If we try to and succeed in lynching the SK, then the mafia can switch to hunting and eliminating town PRs.
So anyone trying to lynch a serial killer right now is hurting town. So, let's stop being dumb.
Please tell me you aren't serious about this?
I really don't see this at all. Does a GreyICE kill by mafia look like SK-hunting? Yes, there's some truth to this statement because the SK did hit mafia, but I don't see as night Mafia vs. SK, I just don't.
This post is all full of wrong and makes me want to warrant a vote on you due to it.
~Mala
I sort of agree with his post because lynching the SK is a lot easier said than done unless there are actual results, tells or slips. An SK has almost the same information as a villager and has enough motive to take shots in the dark because that's their objective. Unlike Mafia where they have the underlying fact that they have to preserve their members.
You can think anyone is an SK but that's just solely relying on gut,especiallyat this far in the game. That's part of the reason I don't want out who my gut feeling for SK is, because I don't actually have basis on it.
No, you are being very nitpicky over the wording to be totally blunt. If you notice my previous paragraph I was talking about Knight I so I was explaining the difference of how games events were going on including the night kills and I was talking about both kills together in a plural sense. I only had a few minutes before work and really pressed for time so instead of writing out 'mafia kill' and 'SK kill' at Night 1 were fractions hunting each other so I just threw it as 'our'.In post 991, beastcharizard wrote: @Turkish:
Your wording in the above posts comes from the mind set of not town. You said our kills which implies on of the kills was yours. I am really not liking how you look right now.
I agree, but a) we have some time, and b) by wagon, we apparently have a total of two votes. No one else seems willing to see Hopkirk's scumminess. If you think you can do more to convince people, I'd be happy with his lynch today.In post 971, beastcharizard wrote:Look, both ns and Hopkirk are doing nothing. I would rather lynch the one who is actively doing nothing rather than the one who is not even posting. We get a lot more information off of the Hopkirk lynch so put your vote back on that wagon.
So what does feel town about him to you?In post 973, jbomber732 wrote:I'd like to hear everyones opinion on burn. I feel like hes pretty town, but he posts not very often and some of his posts seem a bit artificial.
SSK never does much in my experience. notscience made a big deal a bit wanting us specifically to town read him and has been coasting since. I know he's capable of being more useful as town, and his choice not to be so far is an abberation worth pursuing.In post 981, Hopkirk wrote:Because what you said about notscience is the same criticisms you could make of ssk so i'd like to see if one is being consistent.In post 970, Turkish Van wrote:What does this have to do with anything? I'd rather hear what you think of ns, especially after you voted SSK as 'most likely to go through'In post 968, Hopkirk wrote:What do you think of ssk?In post 960, Turkish Van wrote:Getting bored waiting for ns to be useful.
VOTE: notscience
--PA (and Mala endorses this too...)
--PA
Not addressed to me, but at this point I'm finding it weird that AJ isn't doing anything. Not a 'hey, will catch up soon' or 'hey, here's my claim' or even 'hey, don't lynch me until I can catch up and claim.'In post 1104, Antihero wrote:khan, would you mind doing me a solid and summarizing the case on monkey for me?
...didn't realize the time that had elapsed between replacement and now. Everyone wanting him to claim made me think it had been more than :checks: 30 hours.In post 1121, Antihero wrote:he hasn't posted site-wide since thursday, pennyIn post 1109, Turkish Van wrote:Not addressed to me, but at this point I'm finding it weird that AJ isn't doing anything. Not a 'hey, will catch up soon' or 'hey, here's my claim' or even 'hey, don't lynch me until I can catch up and claim.'In post 1104, Antihero wrote:khan, would you mind doing me a solid and summarizing the case on monkey for me?
--PA
also, khan's scum
Not feeling like any cases beyond 'lurking' and 'voting me' have materialized from LotU or SSK. Would like that rectified.In post 1333, Turkish Van wrote:I see a metric fuckton of votes on LotU and SSK, but no reasoning from them really, which is quite odd.
I would like a case. Give me a pretty case, and I'll see about getting Mala to let us vote that way.
Yes, I could make cases, but I'm more interested in what the two votees come up with beyond 'iz scum, die naow.'
--PA
I'm aware of the cases. I'm more interested in why the two suspects in question, despite knowing one another so well apparently and cross-voting, don't have coherent cases to present that I can find.In post 1457, Kublai Khan wrote:Cho should answer this question too.In post 1455, zMuffinMan wrote:who else do you think is scum, ms?
Turkish Van should iso me for answers as to why Lords of the Unreal is scum instead of being lazy.