NY 192: Game Shop Mafia (Over)

[RadiantCowbells]

I mean I'm notoriously bad at reading you, I'm aware, but usually I skew you into the more scummy and not the less scummy direction so I have odd feelings about my townreading you when others aren't.

Urgh.

I'm uncomfortable leaving a read on you for town to follow honestly.

[RadiantCowbells]

Fine, whatevsies.

[RadiantCowbells]

I honestly read the way you dealt with the FA shit as incredibly unlikely to come with you as scum.

I'd expect scum!PK to jump ship to an easier wagon a long time before that.

So I guess I'm townreading you still.

What do you think about Keyser?

[RadiantCowbells]

idk, I'm actually not feeling Zulfy as much right now.

I wanna look at some of the people who were absent from the end of the day. The wagon on you, besides for Fro99er and Mollie, give me bad feels.

Especially the guys playing both sides of the fence between you and Mollie. Kesyer, DN, maybe JarJar.

Where are you at on them?

[RadiantCowbells]

w/e I'm done you have my reads.

gl

[RadiantCowbells]

Have we ever won a game where we were both town?

[RadiantCowbells]

I can only remembering the NY where you replaced into my biggest scumread.

And yea, lots of fighting there.

[RadiantCowbells]

yea, the one Silverwolf forfeited.

[RadiantCowbells]

Well to be fair Boon claimed best friend with infinite commutes and was pushing on me so I didn't remotely believe the claim.

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't think anyone in history would describe my play as "unhasty"

[RadiantCowbells]

yi yi yi

ok, thank you.

[RadiantCowbells]

Holy fuck Zulfy's reaction is weird.

[RadiantCowbells]

Especially with the miller claim.

Because if he thought he was cop he would have had to at least stop and think about the miller getting innod.

I'm fascinated.

[RadiantCowbells]

it sucks because apparently I'm the only person who was scumreading him at the time

but w/e

[RadiantCowbells]

Not positive on JJ but w/e

yeah I'm pretty sure PK is town. he wouldn't have done what he did as scum.

[RadiantCowbells]

also fairly sure that Wicked is town even though he's an absentee fuck.

[RadiantCowbells]

I think Zulfy is 100% scum.
Keyser really scummy too.

yeah I'm not scumreading JJ, far from it.

I really just want you guys to hit up Zulfy and Keyser after I die. pretty much done here.

[RadiantCowbells]

My apologies to Nero.

It was uncalled for regardless of his alignment.

[RadiantCowbells]

Like seriously, what the shit is having a role cop and a cop on the same faction. normal review should have NEVER let that through. there's no effing way that it isn't seen as a CC.

That was not a fakeclaim FYI. I'm cop, and I checked Zulfy aka Titus last night. scum.

VOTE: Titus

[RadiantCowbells]

Someone want to explain why scum!RC intentionally CCed a town PR to get them lynched?

because if you can I'd love to see you try.

[RadiantCowbells]

Jesus RC we all know you do the craziest plays in existence

My scum plays are intended to get me to win the game, not get me lynched halfway through the game.
There's no scum motivation for me to fake a CC in such a way when I'm already super heavily townread. end of story.
I am cop. don't blame me for AP's cancerous setup design.

w/e I was going to fake a guilty on Titus for to see reactions but I don't think I'm in a position to do so RN so I retract.
I was RBed last night, no result.
Still should be pretty damn obvious that Zulfy knew that Nero was town and lined up two lynches after him.
Can we lynch it now?

[RadiantCowbells]

but the cc of a town role cop is ugh.

If you're going to lynch me for awful setup design just make sure you all tell AP he's a moron after this game.

[RadiantCowbells]

Actually, I checked DN.

No result, so pretty damn sure I was RBed.

[RadiantCowbells]

Unless he's like ascetic BP but I think it's way more likely that scum RBed me.

[RadiantCowbells]

Because DN's alignment is way more important.

There's no way in hell that I'd waste an invest on Zulfy after he slipped that hard.

[RadiantCowbells]

Why come clean about the fakecheck then? If he's so obviously scum then just keep up the charade and get scum lynched.

I haven't carried through a fake guilty in well over a year.

Quick question, do town cops get a guilty on serial killers?

Yes, and I specifically asked the mod. but I didn't get a result. Possible ascetic, possible RB. I'm leaning towards RB because it explains why I didn't die last night.

[RadiantCowbells]

Although with both a role cop and a cop in a setup I feel like you could almost guarantee that an SK would be ascetic.

So especially with his random ass vote onto me definitely worth looking into.

RB makes the most sense because scum can RB RC make sure they can't get another result for if they flip town. God damnit RC I really want to believe you here.

At the very least, there's no reason not to keep me alive for one more day so I can see if I get role blocked tomorrow in case DN is ascetic.

If we lynch the scum RBer, it should force scum to kill me as well.

Oh so you thought you were gonna be killed last night after your CC got the rolecop lynched?

Leaving cop alive is a terrible move no matter what they've done.

If DN is ascetic, I'll get a report tonight. If I was RBed, we can lynch the roleblocker today and force scum to either kill me or get more results.

Leaving me alive was an awful move.

Like you JUST told us that the reason you wouldn't do that as scum because it would get you "lynched halfway through the game."

What do you think my scum motivation for fakeclaiming just to get Nero lynched was, exactly, considering that I was one of the towniest players in the game?

I could literally have just ignored him and killed him tonight and I would still be universally townread tonight.

I crumbed my Aero result, this cop claim didn't come out of nowhere. Why was I planning to claim cop as scum again? explain that. why is lynching Nero so valuable that I throw my status as a near universal townread over it.

[RadiantCowbells]

There's no reason to lynch me until the day before LyLo.

We can lynch the RBer to force scum to either kill me or give me results or if DN is just ascetic we'll find that out based on my tonight result.

Like seriously, there is no purpose in lynching me today, whatsoever.

Lynch Zulfy.

[RadiantCowbells]

I made it very clear that he was my #1 fos at the time.

I don't trust you JJ.

[RadiantCowbells]

Uh, I make complete sense. You just replaced into an obvscum slot.

Scum:
Zulfy
DN?

Lean scum:
JJ
Keyser

Null:
Wake
Firebringer

Probtown:
Mollie
Dwlee

Town:
PK
Wicked
Nos

And yeah, I said clearly before the night that he was my #1 FoS.

I also told PK during the Mollie thing that cop would obviously be checking her tonight.

It's pretty clear I didn't just pull a cop claim out of my ass to lynch a town PR.

[RadiantCowbells]

I didn't check Mollie because PK stopped with the stupid deathtunnel and I wanted to know if DN was SK or not.

I'd think that's obvious?

[RadiantCowbells]

What reason would I have to check Mollie last night, exactly?

[RadiantCowbells]

Dwlee is claiming SK lol.

Maybe if you read the game you wouldn't make comments like this.

This game is 180 pages long, and I subbed in.

Fuck off.

Don't hastily vote someone who is obviously town if you don't want to be called out for not reading.

I need to know about your JJ scum read. Pls

The push on me today makes little to no sense and feels very scum motivated to me.

I still don't like how they disappeared yesterday during the Mollie/PK thing.

[RadiantCowbells]

How do you determine RC's alignment through the crap?

Gut.

Maybe you shouldn't have eaten those stale tacos then.

If I avoid VCA by day 4 in a large and day 3 in a mini and a scum lynch without a guilty happen, you should lynch me. VCA is my biggest tool.

Like seriously? Note the complete absence of any game related content.

Wait you think you're "obviously town" now?

If I get lynched and you all don't feel at least 80% idiotic then you definitely should.

Why are you in no position to do so?

Because the goon squad of fools is voting me?

RC thinks he's a special little snowflake and his gambits don't hurt town. When RC and I can hydra, I will show him how to do it.

My gambits win games, unless there's someone who is dumb enough to think that scum cleared their slot when they could have quickhammered.
You're scum here anyway.

Your "gut" is just being mafia and knowing I am town.

So you think that myself and Titus are scum together? why don't you lynch the one that's not the fucking cop.

[RadiantCowbells]

Firebringer is voting me and claiming that he thinks that Titus is scum here.

Of the two, he is choosing to vote the cop.

That should not sit well with anyone.

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: Firebringer

This is priority lynch No. 1 I'm pretty sure.

[RadiantCowbells]

Right, extreme narcissism.

You want to talk about preparing for town flips? that's preparing for a town flip.

You had exactly 2 votes on you at the time you made that post. And one of them was from DN who you are not townreading. Wanna try again?

pedit: and the other was from the place you just placed your vote.

I don't carry through cop guilties any more since I was WoTCed from a few games after a NY game where I correctly fakeclaimed cop and caused the scum team to forfeit.

[RadiantCowbells]

-sigh- titus.

Why did you have to be scum.

vote her then.

[RadiantCowbells]

Honey, you've pulled that so many times now. You got lucky once.

Find a game where I fake a guilty and didn't retract it and someone flipped town.

Go on, I'll wait.

It's

never

happened.

You'd fake claimed cop more times more times this month guilties on me talah etc.

I fake claimed cop on Taly for about 2 minutes to see how FA would react, and the reaction consecrated my FA townread.

FA was town.

Literally a fucking freebie.

Maybe if you weren't absolutely incapable of playing the game outside of one strategy where everything must align perfectly for you to not be useless you would be able to actually fucking read people.

How many times have you tried to mislynch me again? Do I need to make a fucking list here?

[RadiantCowbells]

It fucks the game for everyone else.

Not everyone is a simpleton who can't play the game unless the stars align perfectly.

I want more than 1 game. I mean if he does this "all of the time" it shldn't be hard.

I occasionally fake claim guilties as a reaction test.

I do NOT hard claim cop as a fakeclaim, and if I had fakeclaimed I would have retracted a long time ago.

[RadiantCowbells]

Like I don't give a shit if Titus is scum or not, she can't come replacing into my fucking games and picking a fight with me.

She's being deliberately antagonistic and if you can't see that you're blind.

[RadiantCowbells]

Claimed he was mason with me in order to save me from getting mislynched, RC was scum.
Claimed he was a Bus Driver and got massive town credit for that lynch, RC was scum.

I GOT TOWNCRED FOR THOSE PLAYS.

RC SCUM PLAY -> DO WHATEVER GIVES YOU THE MOST TOWNCRED.

You know what doesn't give towncred? getting town PRs lynched in a CC.

[RadiantCowbells]

Claimed he tracked Taly to a kill as well...

Yet somehow I was turbolynched before I could post...

Just as well considering you were deathtunneled on Taly who was obviously town and my bank townread heading into the day.

Blame FA for not questioning ABR's quickhammer, not me. I called scum, you didn't. as usual. Starbuck ringing any bells?

[RadiantCowbells]

LOOK AT ALL THIS TOWNCRED I HAVE RIGHT NOW.

IF I LIVE MORE THAN A FEW DAYS I AM A GUARANTEED POLICY LYNCH UNLESS WE KILL RBER.

THAT IS SO FUCKING FAR FROM RC SCUM PLAY THAT YOU CAN'T EVEN BE MISINTERPRETING THIS RN.

[RadiantCowbells]

Then why are you calling yourself obvtown and saying that when people push your lynch it makes little to no sense ?

Because if you're town, you should really know better.

I got you to lynch Fire that game.

God are you arrogant town cluessless and trying to prove your worth to me or scum flauting your anti-town behavior in my face?

You did?

When you're obvtown I know you're obvtown.

When I'm obvtown you lynch me over Huntress who I had been calling scum since early D2 when every single other townie was scumreading the slot.

Scum you has not taken a game off me; I've taken two.

I'm not touching Starbuck here. I could consider Firebringer.

I'd prefer to lynch Suzune or Cuddly over Elyse or Firebringer as well.

When you're obvtown I know you're obvtown.

When I'm obvtown you lynch me over Huntress who I had been calling scum since early D2 when every single other townie was scumreading the slot.

Scum you has not taken a game off me; I've taken two.

I'm not touching Starbuck here. I could consider Firebringer.

I'd prefer to lynch Suzune or Cuddly over Elyse or Firebringer as well.

When you're advocating the lynch of known town in lylo, you ain't obvtown. Period.

VOTE: FB

@Starbuck, Active lurking and IioA are not scumhunting.

I have cleared everyone else as town and you're not hunting soooo....

[RadiantCowbells]

You wanted to lynch Starbuck, I called for the FB lynch over that one.

D2 EVERYONE wanted to lynch Starbuck. I stopped that shit, I forced the massclaim, I pushed the lynch onto Cuddly.

You spent half the game trying to fucking lynch me and I peeled the lynch off of you.

[RadiantCowbells]

We're not lynching for SK today.

If he's ascetic, either we'll know tomorrow or I'll die.

We are searching for roleblocker today, which means we need to hit main faction scum.

[RadiantCowbells]

God's sake Titus why the hell would I do that for you exactly?

You're either scum or being a complete ass rn.

[RadiantCowbells]

God's sake Titus why the hell would I do that for you exactly?

You're either scum or being a complete ass rn.

VOTE: Titus

Titus just asked the person who they're 50% policy lynching and 50% scumreading to colour VCs for her.

Yeah, that makes sense.

[RadiantCowbells]

If a play:

- gets a PR lynched
- makes you obvtown cause the town should "know better"

Isn't a great play as scum?

If you're concerned about my alignment lynch me the day before LyLo.

We're not discussing the possibility of lynching me today.

[RadiantCowbells]

RC faked in a mini theme Myko hosted

Mini normal* and I held up the fakeclaim for less than a page.

RC may have faked a guilty on me in Chaos Omega's game

No, I didn't?

The New York game she referenced herself

And I made the scumteam forfeit 5 pages later.

Like are you really using the argument that what you did was so scummy it couldn't possibly come from scum?

No. I'm using the argument that I wouldn't have done it as scum since I was not lynched as scum once last year.

Faking a cop claim virtually guarantees that I'm not going to be endgaming town.

Why would I do it exactly?

I am TOWNREADING mollie. I don't want to lynch her like ever.

You're the policy/scumread. Shit like this post is why.

YOU LITERALLY JUST FUCKING ASKED ME.

[RadiantCowbells]

but RC doesn't deny this at all. He does this mollie.

I DO claim guilties on people as a reaction test.

I DO NOT sustain a cop fakeclaim in the face of a role cop claim.

That's a horrific twist of my play.

[RadiantCowbells]

Also, note that all of Titus's examples have been myself fakeclaiming cop AS TOWN.

Yet she's claiming to scumread me.

[RadiantCowbells]

For all of, what, 1 page?

I wanted to see Titus's reaction. People were being idiots so I didn't want to.

What's your issue with it?

[RadiantCowbells]

Just forget everything I've said up to now.

Why is Scum!RC flying in to counterclaim cop then inevitably get lynched before LyLo?

Like, seriously. If you're claiming a scumread on me, address that in your next post.

And JJ, you're being 151 different kinds of a numpty here if you're town.

[RadiantCowbells]

Just forget everything I've said up to now.

Why is Scum!RC flying in to counterclaim cop then inevitably get lynched before LyLo?

Like, seriously. If you're claiming a scumread on me, address that in your next post.

And JJ, you're being 151 different kinds of a numpty here if you're town.

For emphasis.

When I make a play as maf I have very good reasons for doing so. I don't yolo cc shit and claiming cop there would have been a terrible decision if I was maf.

if you want to help town then put up a reads list. that is the correct play.

I made a reads list. But, if DN is Ascetic we can find that out and I can get another report if I live another night.

Even if you think I'm scum there's no reason to lynch me today.

[RadiantCowbells]

And if we lynch RBer today between FB and Titus, scum are forced to kill me or let me get reports.

[RadiantCowbells]

PM I made my reads list.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'd rather not lynch DN because if we hit roleblocker I can confirm his alignment or force him to kill me (scum wouldn't kill me when I'm verifying whether there's a SK for them or not)

I'd do it to avoid my lynch or a shitty lynch but I'd greatly prefer to lynch Titus or FB or JJ.

[RadiantCowbells]

Uh, I make complete sense. You just replaced into an obvscum slot.

Scum:
Zulfy
DN?

Lean scum:
JJ
Keyser

Null:
Wake
Firebringer

Probtown:
Mollie
Dwlee

Town:
PK
Wicked
Nos

And yeah, I said clearly before the night that he was my #1 FoS.

I also told PK during the Mollie thing that cop would obviously be checking her tonight.

It's pretty clear I didn't just pull a cop claim out of my ass to lynch a town PR.

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: RC

That's some cool reasoning you got there.

I don't supposed you ever explained why you voted DN either.

[RadiantCowbells]

I want to play different alignments when I want to do different things.

Overall I prefer scum because I can stick around for the entire game, but a good town game > a good scum game, besides for NY184.

[RadiantCowbells]

Because he hasn't posted any fucking shit at all and I'm not willing to clear him for being in a neighbourhood.

[RadiantCowbells]

Urgh I'm using way too much profanity RN.

I stop.

[RadiantCowbells]

Requesting to replace out.

Looking back, I just can't commit to this game and its pace/fights, or any Mafia at all for that matter. It'd be unfair to everyone her if I stayed in when I know I can't invest.

Wake is town.

Why did you switch votes to DN and why are you voting myself now?

[RadiantCowbells]

Because you can't justify it, and that's how I know.

[RadiantCowbells]

Well I like the fact that he replaced out at least.

I just want content from the damn slot.

[RadiantCowbells]

Mollie, the slot literally slipped.

Vote with me?

[RadiantCowbells]

So if you all did lynch nero

A) what the hell yo

B) Are we going to lynch RC when he flips cop? Can we lynch mollie after that?

Your slot revealed that it knew that the RC claim was legit and then tried to set up two mislynches.

I think we're done here?

[RadiantCowbells]

Miller is not explicitly normal as scum though.

[RadiantCowbells]

I mean if AP is trolling me with the cop+role cop thing anyway

but Wicked still strikes me as town.

[RadiantCowbells]

It really fucking sucks now because I realize that what we should have done was have Nero investigate me.

Then we'd probably end up lynching him anyway but at least I'd be clear.

Urgh.

[RadiantCowbells]

Wicked's been basically my bank townread since the beginning of the game so not really interested in that.

I also like Wake's replace out quite a bit.

[RadiantCowbells]

No, it's not explicitly normal. It's not explicitly non-normal.

But there's no way this setup passed with both a town RC and cop and a scum miller.

And if it did, idc if we lose I'll just never join another AP game.

[RadiantCowbells]

Yeah, miller is a role. Wicked is conftown if that weren't immediately obvoius anyway.

[RadiantCowbells]

I have just finished reading Day Two. Here are my reads:

Town reads

Wickedestjr
Nosferatu

Town lean

pirate mollie
Wake88
Zulfy/Titus
JarJarDrinks

Null town lean

Dwlee99

Null scum lean

TheCow/Firebringer

Scum lean

DeathNote

Scum reads

pisskop
RadiantCowbells



My scum reads still remain pisskop and RadiantCowbells.

VOTE: RadiantCowbells

I will present my full scum-case within the next 48 hours.



If you want a sneak preview, something on the lines of... opportunistic bandwagoner... pushing the D2 scum-led FA/pirate mollie wagon... insincere reads... pushing for SK/BP?/DeathNote lynch... rolecop town-confirming a miller, yes... a cop too? GTFO.

Well that's still scum.

[RadiantCowbells]

I note that he pushes DN as a scum lean so that he can cite my scumread as a reason to lynch him tomorrow.
Titus did the same actually, except she jumped ship to DN early.

Firebringer needs to be forced to make content.

[RadiantCowbells]

What's your question?

[RadiantCowbells]

It means that PK clearly can't read properly because I already said that I targeted Aero N1 and Death N2.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm 2-shot cop.

I'd like to at least live till tomorrow so I can out whether DN is ascetic or whether I got roleblocked.

If I'm getting lynched, you better lynch the shit out of Keyser and Titus tomorrow.

[RadiantCowbells]

I retain my shot and want to try to use it or force scum to kill me if we lynch the roleblocker.

I'm not being lynched today. flat out.

if scum force it through and town doesn't autolynch for it you deserve to lose.

[RadiantCowbells]

Like, legit:

if you think I'm scum, what reason do you have to prevent me from allowing me to verify whether DN is ascetic or not?

If you want to policy me because of shitty setup design then policy me after we get a clearer picture of what's going on.

omg we are lynching this

not happening.

Why didn't you full roleclaim then and discuss it with everybody?

I'm not understanding why you expect me to predict that AP threw a role cop into a game with me.

[RadiantCowbells]

Nero CCed me and I lynched him for it. Go bitch at AP if you want to bitch at anyone.

Keyser has absolutely batshit bad associatives with Daves that I already pointed out and is now trying to strongarm a lynch onto cop.
Zulfy made a case for FA!scum contingent on RC!scum then voted FA and backtracked on the entire case when called out on it.

I made the right fucking play in any game where the mod wasn't a gigantic fucking troll

[RadiantCowbells]

Asking mod to confirm publicly that role blocks and ascetics do not consume shots of abilities

[RadiantCowbells]

In that case I can confirm RBed and that I don't have a result on DN.

[RadiantCowbells]

But I asked Mala about that in 557 and she said that if I targeted an ascetic/rolestop it wouldn't use a shot.

SO I want mod clarification.

[RadiantCowbells]

Keysor spent the better part of D1 interacting with dave and calling him out as being weak and illogical, then attacked those voting it.

On day one, I scum-read davesaz and voted my scum-read.

You said that Dave was prob scum

attacked 3 different people who were on the Dave wagon and voted some of them

then switched your vote at the last second.

That's not scumreading Daves and voting your scum read.

you cced nero. not the other way around.

He was counterclaiming my role.

Why would I CC as scum when I can just lynch elsewhere and kill him?

ap wldn't troll in normals. or probably troll as a mod really. we have both been on the receiving end of unperceived mod fuckery.

Well, he did. and town gets fucked because of it.

We're not lynching me today. flat out. if we lynch RBer today we force scum to kill me or give a result.

If you have to lynch me, lynch me tomorrow.

[RadiantCowbells]

Where do we go from there?

Zulfy slipped, Keyser had awful daves associatives and kept jumping to whatever was most likely to be lynched on D2 , and I'm seriously rethinking Mollie for that change of opinion.

you cld also always ask deathy if he is an aesthetic his answer wld be telling

LOL OK.

Deathnote, are you ascetic?

I am still waiting for pisskop and rc to answer my questions /quote]

I answered your fucking question.

[RadiantCowbells]

Mollie, if you're scumreading me you should vote me.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm positive that PK is town.

I don't see scum!PK attacking FA to the extent that he did.

Attacking her when she was being emotional like that makes me pretty sure he legitimately thought FA was scum, which makes him town.

[RadiantCowbells]

Talking with PK last night also convinced me that he was town. I don't at all see any signs that he knew Nero was going to flip town.

But seriously, Zulfy just slipped. Can we lynch the fucking slip today and maybe it flips roleblocker and we don't have to do this shit?

[RadiantCowbells]

And yeah, PM's pretty dead on about Titus. Subbed in, gave me a policy vote, waffled on whether I was scum or not, voted DN, voted back to me.

Still haven't seen an iota of explanation for why I'm scum here from her.

[RadiantCowbells]

If someone wants to explain how that could come from town, they're welcome to explain.

[RadiantCowbells]

and no, you cced nero not the other way around. you insisting that this is not true does not make it so.

I am a cop and he claimed role cop.

At the time I perceived it as him claiming the role I have. Counterclaiming me.

I counterclaimed him publicly, yes.

your play looks like a botched fakeclaim.

Botched?

How was this supposed to end well for me if I was mafia?

How does Scum!RC benefit from being put on a timer?

[RadiantCowbells]

Mollie, answer me this: how was that post by Zulfy not a scum slip?

[RadiantCowbells]

Lynching me before LyLo may be the correct play.

Lynching me today is not.

[RadiantCowbells]

I agree I lynched Nero for setup and that I was an idiot for doing so.

There's scum motivation in fakeclaiming Role Cop; there's no scum motivation in CCing one and getting lynched the next day.

[RadiantCowbells]

I notice, JJ, that you're pushing me as a policy lynch and not really talking about why you expect me to flip scum.

Enlighten me on the latter bit.

and again, but u now expect us to believe it?

Why would I do that as scum.

WHY.

your lynch is optimal play

I agree that I need to be lynched before LyLo.

I want to be able to try investing someone who isn't DN before I get lynched.

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: mollie

I like this.

Why are you voting her though?

[RadiantCowbells]

Can you talk me through where you stand on the fact that the setup had a cop + role cop and Zulfy's slip yesterday?

[RadiantCowbells]

We can talk about how you're trying to lynch the cop today.

Pretty effing anti town imo.

[RadiantCowbells]

Wicked was one of the towniest slots in the game before he got confirmed.

I don't think anyone was seriously considering that Wicked may be a scum miller?

[RadiantCowbells]

Actually I guess it's not too bad if I get lynched today.

Just systematically lynch everyone on my wagon who hasn't given any case on why I could be scum besides the setup being dumb.

[RadiantCowbells]

Was PK saying that it was theoretically possible, or something worth seriously taking into consideration.

I'm fairly sure it was the latter.

[RadiantCowbells]

former*

swag.

[RadiantCowbells]

Not being able to figure out whether DN is ascetic or not is not optimal play.

[RadiantCowbells]

I didn't until Nero flipped town.

[RadiantCowbells]

Just wanna say that anyone that buys this bullshit has no clue how mafia works. This is scum 101. RC is trying to just survive the day. He's acting like letting him live is a win-win regardless of his alignment. The town is on a clock and we only have so many mislynches before it runs out. Scum is just trying to run out that clock.

I want to be able to check someone else to figure out if DN is Ascetic.

If I'm scum, you lynch me tomorrow and nothing changes as a result.

Why do you have such a problem with that?

[RadiantCowbells]

If I target someone else and get an invest off it means that DN is almost certainly ascetic.

Conversely, if I target someone else and get RBed again it means that DN is probably not ascetic.

If scum want to WIFOM it to try to get DN lynched, they allow me to give town a clear or confirmed scum.
If scum kill me to prevent me getting my check off, it saves town a ML.

[RadiantCowbells]

Besides, when I die my reads have a tendency of getting ignored.

There's lynches that need to happen and I don't trust you guys to pull your shit together.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm done defending myself.

I don't get lynched today; end of story. Goodbye.

Nos, can you respond on Zulfy? What's your Keyser read?

[RadiantCowbells]

Lol, there is no way we are not lynching RC.

There is also no point in arguing with scum. Let RC flail around and bitch about me being an Ascetic (wow I can't believe thats actually the excuse right now), meanwhile we can scum hunt elsewhere.

Keep in mind that when I flip you're getting autolynched.

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't think it matters.

I do actually think you think that I'm not going to flip cop.

Which makes me think you're SK, but eh.

[RadiantCowbells]

But then, if you're ascetic...

[RadiantCowbells]

No, but you would have had to know by the fact that I claimed you as ascetic.

[RadiantCowbells]

My shot was refunded.

What do you mean the worse it'll look?

[RadiantCowbells]

That's L-1 I believe.

Can someone unvote so the day doesn't get ended before I can make my suggestions for tomorrow?

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm thinking that it's Keyser/Titus but I want to look at a few other peple.

[RadiantCowbells]

Firebringer's 'gut' thing was odd as fuck and comparing my CC to my mason claim in the Diablo game makes no sense whatsoever.
JJ and Mollie've been purely pushing me for the policy aspect and haven't passed any commentary on my alignment.

[RadiantCowbells]

Nah, I am in favor of lynching you actually pisskop. You're deliberately pushing obvtown and fell for the second most obvious trick in the book.

I am about 95% sure you know RC's alignment.

When you criticize my fake guilties but try to fakehammer me as if I'd fall for one as either alignment you just come across as an idiot.

Also, I'm only at L-2 right now.

[RadiantCowbells]

And we're not lynching PK.

[RadiantCowbells]

Vote Count 1.1

Keyser Söze (2) - Zulfy,

Wickedestjr

Frozen Angel (2) -

Aeronaut

,

Fro99er

Wickedestjr

(2) - Wake88 , Nero Cain
Dwlee99 (2) - TheCow, Frozen Angel
JarJarDrinks (1) -

Davesaz

TheCow (1) - Dwlee99

Not voting (6) - pisskop, DeathNote, Nosferatu, Dwlee99, Keyser Söze, RadiantCowbells

Vote Count 1.2

Frozen Angel (4) -

Aeronaut

,

Fro99er

, Dwlee99, Nero Cain
Keyser Söze (2) - Zulfy,

Wickedestjr

Wickedestjr

(1) - Wake88
Dwlee99 (2) - TheCow, Frozen Angel
JarJarDrinks (1) -

Davesaz

Fro99er

(1) - DeathNote

Not voting (5) - pisskop, Nosferatu, Keyser Söze, RadiantCowbells, JarJarDrinks

Vote Count 1.3

Frozen Angel (2) - Dwlee99, Nero Cain
Keyser Söze (2) - Zulfy,

Wickedestjr

Dwlee99 (2) - TheCow,

Fro99er

Wickedestjr

(1) - Wake88
JarJarDrinks (1) -

Davesaz

Fro99er

(1) -

Aeronaut

Zulfy (1) - Keyser Söze

Aeronaut

(1) - Frozen Angel
DeathNote (1) - RadiantCowbells

Not voting (4) - pisskop, Nosferatu, DeathNote, JarJarDrinks

Fixed an error in the last VC

Vote Count 1.4

Dwlee99 (3) - TheCow,

Fro99er

, Nosferatu
Frozen Angel (2) - Dwlee99, Nero Cain
Keyser Söze (2) - Zulfy,

Wickedestjr

Wickedestjr

(1) - Wake88
JarJarDrinks (1) -

Davesaz

Fro99er

(1) -

Aeronaut

Zulfy (1) - Keyser Söze

Aeronaut

(1) - Frozen Angel
DeathNote (1) - RadiantCowbells

Not voting (4) - pisskop, DeathNote, JarJarDrinks

Vote Count 1.5

Dwlee99 (5) - TheCow,

Fro99er

, Nosferatu, Wake88, pisskop

Fro99er

(2) -

Aeronaut

, Dwlee99
DeathNote (1) - Frozen Angel
Frozen Angel (1) - Nero Cain
Keyser Söze (1) - Zulfy

Wickedestjr

(1) - RadiantCowbells
JarJarDrinks (1) -

Davesaz

Zulfy (1) - Keyser Söze

Aeronaut

(1) -

Wickedestjr

Not voting (2) - DeathNote, JarJarDrinks

Vote Count 1.6

Frozen Angel (3) - Nero Cain, pisskop, TheCow
Dwlee99 (2) - Wake88,

Davesaz

TheCow (2) -

Fro99er

, DeathNote
DeathNote (2) - Frozen Angel, Dwlee99
Keyser Söze (1) - Zulfy

Wickedestjr

(1) - RadiantCowbells

Aeronaut

(1) -

Wickedestjr

Fro99er

(1) -

Aeronaut

Not voting (3) - JarJarDrinks, Keyser Söze, Nosferatu

Vote Count 1.7

DeathNote (4) - Frozen Angel, Dwlee99,

Fro99er

, RadiantCowbells
Frozen Angel (3) - Nero Cain, pisskop, TheCow
Dwlee99 (2) - Wake88,

Davesaz

TheCow (2) - DeathNote,

Aeronaut

Keyser Söze (1) - Zulfy

Davesaz

(1) -

Wickedestjr

Not voting (3) - JarJarDrinks, Keyser Söze, Nosferatu

Vote Count 1.8

DeathNote (3) - Frozen Angel,

Fro99er

, RadiantCowbells
Frozen Angel (3) - Nero Cain, pisskop, TheCow
Dwlee99 (2) - Wake88,

Davesaz

TheCow (2) - DeathNote,

Aeronaut

Keyser Söze (2) - Zulfy, Dwlee99

Davesaz

(1) -

Wickedestjr

Wake88 (1) - Keyser Söze

Not voting (2) - JarJarDrinks, Nosferatu

Vote Count 1.9

DeathNote (5) - Frozen Angel,

Fro99er

, RadiantCowbells, TheCow, JarJarDrinks
Frozen Angel (2) - Nero Cain, pisskop
Dwlee99 (2) - Wake88,

Davesaz

TheCow (2) - DeathNote,

Aeronaut

Keyser Söze (2) - Zulfy, Dwlee99

Davesaz

(1) -

Wickedestjr

Wake88 (1) - Keyser Söze

Not voting (1) - Nosferatu

(expired on 2016-01-08 23:59:59)

Vote Count 1.10

DeathNote (5) - Frozen Angel,

Fro99er

, RadiantCowbells, TheCow, JarJarDrinks
Frozen Angel (2) - Nero Cain, pisskop
Dwlee99 (2) - Wake88,

Davesaz

TheCow (2) - DeathNote,

Aeronaut

Keyser Söze (2) - Zulfy, Dwlee99

Davesaz

(1) -

Wickedestjr

pisskop (1) - Keyser Söze

Not voting (1) - Nosferatu

(expired on 2016-01-08 23:59:59)

Vote Count 1.11

DeathNote (5) - Frozen Angel,

Fro99er

, RadiantCowbells, TheCow, JarJarDrinks
Frozen Angel (2) - Nero Cain, pisskop
Dwlee99 (2) - Wake88,

Davesaz

TheCow (2) - DeathNote,

Aeronaut

Keyser Söze (2) - Zulfy, Dwlee99

Davesaz

(1) -

Wickedestjr

pisskop (1) - Keyser Söze

Not voting (1) - Nosferatu

(expired on 2016-01-08 23:59:59)

Vote Count 1.12

DeathNote (3) - Frozen Angel,

Fro99er

, JarJarDrinks
Frozen Angel (2) - Nero Cain, pisskop
TheCow (2) - DeathNote,

Aeronaut

Keyser Söze (2) - Zulfy, Dwlee99

Davesaz

(2) -

Wickedestjr

, Nosferatu
pisskop (1) - Keyser Söze

Wickedestjr

(1) - RadiantCowbells
Nosferatu (1) - TheCow
Dwlee99 (1) - Wake88

Not voting (1) -

Davesaz

(expired on 2016-01-08 23:59:59)

@AngryPidgeon

Wake88, Zulfy,

Davesaz

- prod/replace/status?

Zulfy was on V/LA which ended less than 24 hours ago. I will give him a little bit more time to get back from it. Everybody else is fine for activity right now, but I will keep an eye on activity and the amount of prod-dodgy posts that people make going forward.

[/color]

Vote Count 1.12

DeathNote (3) - Frozen Angel,

Fro99er

, JarJarDrinks
Frozen Angel (2) - Nero Cain, pisskop
Keyser Söze (2) - Zulfy, Dwlee99

Davesaz

(2) -

Wickedestjr

, Nosferatu
pisskop (1) - Keyser Söze

Wickedestjr

(1) - RadiantCowbells
Nosferatu (1) - TheCow
Dwlee99 (1) - Wake88
TheCow (1) -

Aeronaut

Not voting (2) -

Davesaz

, DeathNote

(expired on 2016-01-08 23:59:59)

Vote Count 1.13

DeathNote (3) - Frozen Angel,

Fro99er

, JarJarDrinks

Davesaz

(3) -

Wickedestjr

, Nosferatu, RadiantCowbells
Frozen Angel (2) - Nero Cain, pisskop
Keyser Söze (1) - Zulfy
pisskop (1) - Keyser Söze
Nosferatu (1) - TheCow
Dwlee99 (1) - Wake88
TheCow (1) -

Aeronaut

Not voting (3) -

Davesaz

, DeathNote, Dwlee99

(expired on 2016-01-08 23:59:59)

Vote Count 1.14

TheCow (4) -

Aeronaut

, Keyser Söze, Frozen Angel, Kwlee99

Davesaz

(4) -

Wickedestjr

, Nosferatu, RadiantCowbells,

Fro99er

Frozen Angel (2) - Nero Cain, pisskop
Keyser Söze (1) - Zulfy
Nosferatu (1) - TheCow
Dwlee99 (1) - Wake88
DeathNote (1) - JarJarDrinks

Not voting (2) -

Davesaz

, DeathNote

(expired on 2016-01-08 23:59:59)

Activity is fine right now.

Vote Count 1.15

Davesaz

(5) -

Wickedestjr

, Nosferatu, RadiantCowbells,

Fro99er

, JarJarDrinks
TheCow (4) -

Aeronaut

, Keyser Söze, Frozen Angel, Kwlee99
Frozen Angel (2) - Nero Cain, pisskop
Nosferatu (1) - TheCow
Dwlee99 (1) - Wake88
pisskop (1) -

Davesaz

Not voting (2) - DeathNote, Zulfy

(expired on 2016-01-08 23:59:59)

16 players alive, 9 votes to lynch

Vote Count 1.16

Davesaz

(8) -

Wickedestjr

, Nosferatu, RadiantCowbells, pisskop, Dwlee99, Keyser Söze,

Fro99er

,

Aeronaut

Dwlee99 (2) - Wake88, JarJarDrinks
TheCow (1) - Frozen Angel
Frozen Angel (1) - Nero Cain
Nosferatu (1) - TheCow
pisskop (1) -

Davesaz

Not voting (2) - DeathNote, Zulfy

(expired on 2016-01-08 23:59:59)

16 players alive, 9 votes to lynch

As a random note, please attempt to be civil. No personal attacks or cussing out other people please.

Vote Count 1.16 (FINAL)

Davesaz

( ) -

Wickedestjr

, Nosferatu, RadiantCowbells, pisskop, Dwlee99, Keyser Söze,

Fro99er

,

Aeronaut

, Frozen Angel
Dwlee99 (2) - Wake88, JarJarDrinks
Frozen Angel (1) - Nero Cain
Nosferatu (1) - TheCow
pisskop (1) -

Davesaz

Not voting (2) - DeathNote, Zulfy

(expired on 2016-01-08 23:59:59)

16 players alive, 9 votes to lynch

Vote Count 2.0

Not voting (14) - pisskop, DeathNote, Nosferatu, Dwlee99, Keyser Söze, RadiantCowbells, Frozen Angel,

Fro99er

,

Wickedestjr

, Zulfy, Wake88, Nero Cain, TheCow, JarJarDrinks

Day 2 starts! Day 2 will end at the end of the 18th PST.

With 14 alive, it takes 8 votes to lynch!

(expired on 2016-01-18 23:59:59)

Vote Count 2.1

DeathNote (2) - RadiantCowbells,

Fro99er

TheCow (1) - DeathNote

Not voting (11) - pisskop, Nosferatu, Dwlee99, Keyser Söze, Frozen Angel,

Wickedestjr

, Zulfy, Wake88, Nero Cain, TheCow, JarJarDrinks


With 14 alive, it takes 8 votes to lynch!

(expired on 2016-01-18 23:59:59)

can we ask for immediate replacing of nero mod?! Pleassse

Negative

Vote Count 2.2

DeathNote (2) - RadiantCowbells
TheCow (1) - DeathNote
Dwlee99 (1) -

Fro99er

Not voting (11) - pisskop, Nosferatu, Dwlee99, Keyser Söze, Frozen Angel,

Wickedestjr

, Zulfy, Wake88, Nero Cain, TheCow, JarJarDrinks


With 14 alive, it takes 8 votes to lynch!

(expired on 2016-01-18 23:59:59)

Vote Count 2.3

Dwlee99 (3) -

Fro99er

, Frozen Angel, JarJarDrinks
Frozen Angel (3) - pisskop, Nero Cain, Zulfy
Zulfy (1) - RadiantCowbells
TheCow (1) - DeathNote

Not voting (6) - Nosferatu, Dwlee99, Keyser Söze,

Wickedestjr

, Wake88, TheCow


With 14 alive, it takes 8 votes to lynch!

(expired on 2016-01-18 23:59:59)

Vote Count 2.4

Frozen Angel (3) - pisskop, Nero Cain, Zulfy
Dwlee99 (2) - Frozen Angel, JarJarDrinks
Zulfy (2) - RadiantCowbells,

Fro99er

TheCow (1) - DeathNote

Not voting (6) - Nosferatu, Dwlee99, Keyser Söze,

Wickedestjr

, Wake88, TheCow


With 14 alive, it takes 8 votes to lynch!

(expired on 2016-01-18 23:59:59)

Vote Count 2.5

Frozen Angel (3) - pisskop, Nero Cain, Zulfy
Zulfy (2) - RadiantCowbells, Frozen Angel
Dwlee99 (1) - JarJarDrinks
TheCow (1) - DeathNote

Not voting (7) - Nosferatu, Dwlee99, Keyser Söze,

Wickedestjr

, Wake88, TheCow,

Fro99er

With 14 alive, it takes 8 votes to lynch!

(expired on 2016-01-18 23:59:59)

Vote Count 2.6

Frozen Angel (5) - pisskop, Nero Cain, Zulfy, RadiantCowbells, Dwlee99
pisskop (3) -

Wickedestjr

, Keyser Söze, Frozen Angel
Dwlee99 (1) - JarJarDrinks
TheCow (1) - DeathNote

Not voting (4) - Nosferatu, Wake88, TheCow,

Fro99er

With 14 alive, it takes 8 votes to lynch!

(expired on 2016-01-18 23:59:59)

Notes:
Please do not encourage other players to break the rules.
Please try to be civil. I don't want to start making judgement calls on who is being an asshole. So please don't push it.
Searching for a replacement for FA.

Vote Count 2.7

pirate mollie (5) - pisskop, Nero Cain, Zulfy, RadiantCowbells, Dwlee99
pisskop (3) -

Wickedestjr

, Keyser Söze, pirate mollie
Dwlee99 (1) - JarJarDrinks
TheCow (1) - DeathNote

Not voting (4) - Nosferatu, Wake88, TheCow,

Fro99er

With 14 alive, it takes 8 votes to lynch!

(expired on 2016-01-18 23:59:59)

Notes:
pirate mollie replaces Frozen Angel, thank you mollie!

Vote Count 2.8

pirate mollie (5) - pisskop, Nero Cain, Zulfy, RadiantCowbells, Dwlee99
pisskop (3) -

Wickedestjr

, Keyser Söze, pirate mollie
Dwlee99 (1) - JarJarDrinks
TheCow (1) - DeathNote

Not voting (4) - Nosferatu, Wake88, TheCow,

Fro99er

With 14 alive, it takes 8 votes to lynch!

(expired on 2016-01-18 23:59:59)

Vote Count 2.9

pirate mollie (4) - pisskop, Nero Cain, Zulfy, RadiantCowbells
pisskop (4) -

Wickedestjr

, Keyser Söze, pirate mollie,

Fro99er

Dwlee99 (1) - JarJarDrinks
TheCow (1) - DeathNote

Not voting (4) - Nosferatu, Wake88, TheCow, Dwlee99


With 14 alive, it takes 8 votes to lynch!

(expired on 2016-01-18 23:59:59)

Vote Count 2.10

pirate mollie (4) - pisskop, Nero Cain, Zulfy, RadiantCowbells
pisskop (4) -

Wickedestjr

, Keyser Söze, pirate mollie,

Fro99er

Dwlee99 (1) - JarJarDrinks
TheCow (1) - DeathNote

Not voting (4) - Nosferatu, Wake88, TheCow, Dwlee99


With 14 alive, it takes 8 votes to lynch!

Notes:
I'm going to send out prods to anyone who has not posted anything of CONTENT within 48 hours of Day-2 starting.

(expired on 2016-01-18 23:59:59)

Vote Count 2.11

pirate mollie (4) - pisskop, Nero Cain, Zulfy, RadiantCowbells
pisskop (3) -

Wickedestjr

, Keyser Söze, pirate mollie
Dwlee99 (1) - JarJarDrinks
TheCow (1) - DeathNote

Not voting (5) - Nosferatu, Wake88, TheCow, Dwlee99,

Fro99er

With 14 alive, it takes 8 votes to lynch!

Notes:
I'm going to send out prods to anyone who has not posted anything of CONTENT within 48 hours of Day-2 starting.

(expired on 2016-01-18 23:59:59)

Vote Count 2.12

pirate mollie (4) - pisskop, Nero Cain, Zulfy, RadiantCowbells
pisskop (3) -

Wickedestjr

, Keyser Söze, pirate mollie
Dwlee99 (1) - JarJarDrinks
TheCow (1) - DeathNote

Not voting (5) - Nosferatu, Wake88, TheCow, Dwlee99,

Fro99er

With 14 alive, it takes 8 votes to lynch!

Notes:
I'm going to send out prods to anyone who has not posted anything of CONTENT within 48 hours of Day-2 starting.

(expired on 2016-01-18 23:59:59)

Vote Count 2.13

pirate mollie (5) - pisskop, Nero Cain, Zulfy, RadiantCowbells, Dwlee99
pisskop (3) -

Wickedestjr

, Keyser Söze, pirate mollie
Dwlee99 (1) - JarJarDrinks
TheCow (1) - DeathNote
Zulfy (1) -

Fro99er

Not voting (3) - Nosferatu, Wake88, TheCow


With 14 alive, it takes 8 votes to lynch!



(expired on 2016-01-18 23:59:59)

Vote Count 2.14

pisskop (5) -

Wickedestjr

, Keyser Söze, pirate mollie, JarJarDrinks, DeathNote
pirate mollie (4) - pisskop, Nero Cain, Zulfy, Nosferatu
DeathNote (2) - RadiantCowbells, Dwlee99
Dwlee99 (1) -

Fro99er

Not voting (2) - Wake88, TheCow


With 14 alive, it takes 8 votes to lynch!

(expired on 2016-01-18 23:59:59)

Vote Count 2.15

pisskop (5) -

Wickedestjr

, Keyser Söze, pirate mollie, JarJarDrinks, DeathNote
pirate mollie (4) - pisskop, Nero Cain, Zulfy, Nosferatu
DeathNote (2) - RadiantCowbells, Dwlee99

Not voting (3) - Wake88, TheCow,

Fro99er

With 14 alive, it takes 8 votes to lynch!

(expired on 2016-01-18 23:59:59)

Angry Pidgeon why have you forsaken me?

My God, my God, why have You forsaken me? Far from my deliverance are the words of my groaning.

also VC coming up. Sorry for being AFK the last couple days, everyone. I was just kinda stressed out thinking about this but Im going to be responsible.


Vote Count 2.16 (Final)

Nero Cain (8) -

Fro99er

, RadiantCowbells, Dwlee99, Nosferatu, DeathNote, pisskop, JarJarDrinks, pirate mollie
pirate mollie (1) - Zulfy
pisskop (1) - Keyser Söze
Zulfy (1) - Nero Cain

Not voting (3) - Wake88, TheCow,

Wickedestjr

With 14 alive, it takes 8 votes to lynch!

(expired on 2016-01-18 23:59:59)

Vote Count 2.2

RadiantCowbells (4) - Firebringer, DeathNote, JarJarDrinks, Titus
Firebringer (1) - RadiantCowbells

Not voting (9) - pisskop, Nosferatu, Dwlee99, Keyser Söze, pirate mollie,

Wickedestjr

, Wake88,

(expired on 2016-01-22 11:59:59)

With 12 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

[RadiantCowbells]

Vote Count 2.4

RadiantCowbells (6) - Firebringer, DeathNote, JarJarDrinks, Titus, Keyser Söze, pirate mollie
Titus (3) - RadiantCowbells, Dwlee99, pisskop

Not voting (3) - Nosferatu,

Wickedestjr

, Wake88,

(expired on 2016-01-22 11:59:59)

With 12 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

A bunch of these votes are wrong btw.

[RadiantCowbells]

We're flat out not lynching me until I can use my second invest.

End story.

I still haven't seen any sort of case on myself from ANY OF THE 5 PEOPLE ON MY WAGON, besides HEY AP TROLLED YOU WITH THE SETUP DESIGN.

So since you're all basically claiming to be idiots I'm going to be deciding the next 3 lynches and you're going to be following, no questions.

Titus is definitely going first, then Keyser, but I need to decide between Mollie and JarJar for the last one.

And btw, VCA is a terrible and easily gamed strategy, but it strongly supports a Keyser lynch and doesn't favour Titus as town, just so you know.

[RadiantCowbells]

Like seriously; no cases on me from anyone besides setup speculation.

You've all forfeited your rights to decide future lynches, thanks.

[RadiantCowbells]

And seriously, people need to unvote and hold people to call for the wagon.

If I'm getting lynched today it's not going to be a freebie for scum.

make people fucking talk.

[RadiantCowbells]

If you guys want to lynch me before I can get to figure out his alignment he can have the win.

[RadiantCowbells]

No, so I can invest elsewhere and know whether DN is ascetic or I was RBed last night.

[RadiantCowbells]

JJ, fill me in.

Why do you have such problems with the idea of letting me live another night?

What exactly would I do if I was scum?

[RadiantCowbells]

I see colored votes. Nero isn't colored but it's enough.

Yet, why isn't DeathNote in your lynches RC? I find it odd you have pushed dn is Sk yet don't plan to lynch him.

JJ, fill me in.

Why do you have such problems with the idea of letting me live another night?

What exactly would I do if I was scum?

[RadiantCowbells]

Be glad to see it so I can get a handle on your alignment.

I'm not being lynched today though.

[RadiantCowbells]

Assumptions: scum rarely bus day 1, I am town, if scum bus, they tend to be in the middle or back.

Looking at the major wagons that countered Dave. DeathNote and the cow are likely town slots. It can happen to have dueling scum lynches but rare.

Pisskop and Mollie are not both groupscum together more than likely.

FA is a decent cop check given her position opposite me as that would tell me a lot of what scum were planning then. I doubt we have one but *shrug*

Early rvs suggests scum didn't attempt to do much imo.

More details to come and probably more clarity as well.

None of this comes close to explaining why you'd vote me and in fact speaks against it.

[RadiantCowbells]

If anyone hammers rc I will personally come to their house and smash their computer to pieces <3

Wow, the last game I was in, scum made almost this exact post. Very LAMIST.

Grab the posts please. What was the alignment of the lynch victim?

Anyone who hammers without using the day I will hold personally responsible if there is a town flip. Even if it is a scum flip they will be scummy.

lol, lynch victim was 2 shot cop

You ready to see it happen again?

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And what happened to you wanting to lynch PK Titus?

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I note you can't give an explanation for why you actually WANT to lynch either of us though.

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Like I don't understand how Titus is getting away with voting the cop when she replaced into a slot that had scumslipped, then voted me -> DN -> me and FoSed PK without giving a single explanation of a single one of those votes.

I'm flat out not getting lynched today.

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• His first check was on Aero who died. It's very convenient that he doesn't have to clear anybody w/ his first check. Sure it could be coincidence, but it's not like Aero was a great check for N1 after all the crazy shit that went down between Pisskop and FA

Read D1. Aero was my biggest scumread at the time for how he tried to move the wagon over to Dwlee when it was getting big.

But there were only 2 votes on him @ the time and one of them was DN who he doesn't believe is town. So basically one person voting him was enough for him to decide he shouldn't go through w/ his gambit.

I don't pull gambits when I'm under pressure because they make me liable to be scumread. I only gambit when I have enough towncred to get results without risking my own lynch, which I clearly didn't have.

So again, convenient that he doesn't have to clear anybody w/ his check since he claims RB. Also, I ask this

I'm sorry that I got RBed?

WTF? doesn't his post imply that he got no result on a Zulf check? Why not mention you checked DN when "coming clean" about the RB? Or why not use your reaction test on the guy were trying to check instead of Titus?

Why would I change my claim if I was scum? Why not just stick with my original claimed target if I wanted to WIFOM?

I should have done that differently, I agree. But town needs to know that DN is a potential ascetic, so I had to change it.

• Speaking of the guy he was trying to check, why in the world did he check DN? As I pointed out, he posted twice about how a cop should be checking mollie

BECAUSE PK AND MOLLIE WERE LITERALLY KILLING EACH OTHER IN THREAD.

WHY WOULD I CHECK SOMEONE I WAS TOWNREADING WHEN PK WAS NO LONGER FULL DEATHTUNNEL MODE.

I'm running out of WTFs. This one is funny. He's trying to say that him FOSing Aero on Day 1 is some kind of cop crumb. He says "this cop claim didn't come out of nowhere" as if to say he should get towncred cause as scum he would have had to plan this claim from day 1.

I ask him to point out a post that shows this and the best he could must is this lame response

That's as clear a token as I'm going to give.

What do you expect me to do, lynch scum then say HMM TONIGHT I SHALL DETERMINE THE TRUE ALIGNMENT OF AERONAUT. NO NK PLS SCUM.

• He calls himself "obviously town" and says that the push on him today "makes little to no sense". Which is ridiculous cause it makes perfect sense because he countered a PR and got him lynched. Like he keeps harping about AP and how terrible the setup is right? So then how can he be obviously town? Or be surprised that people are pushing for his lynch. Like if I was in his position I'd be suspicious of the people NOT pushing for my lynch.

I asked for one fucking day to confirm whether DN is ascetic.

I'm incredibly suspicious of the people who won't allow me that.

• He's only trying to save himself today. Again, if I'm in his position, I don't waste time fighting my lynch and just scumhunt as much as possible so I can still help the town despite the gamesetup getting me lynch.

I want one day. I will selfvote myself at the beginning of tomorrow because I know I'm not making it to LyLo.
I am making my second cop check.

Furthemore, his whole reasoning is: Let me live so I can check DN tonight. Even though HE WAS ROLEBLOCKED. I know, he's all: we'll just totally lynch the roleblocker first, easy peezy. Cmon people.

I'm not checking DN. I'm checking SOMEONE ELSE.

If I get no result, we know its a RBer and DN becomes a lot cleaner.
If I get a result, we confirm or unconfirm one player and we get a pretty strong chance of DN being scum.
If I die to maf, we saved town a ML.

That's all I got for now. I double dog dare someone to find a better case than that on someone in this game.

No, it's horribly flawed reasoning.

You still haven't explained why I can't be allowed to live till tomorrow either.

Oh, and BTW, he claimed and got a PR lynched.

Great maf strategy, have the scummy nommed player get policy lynched for CCing someone that could easily be night killed.

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Another WTF. So priority lynch No. 1 ISN'T the obvscum that scumslipped?

FB entrance pissed me the ef off tbh.

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So going into the day you thought you'd have the towncred but then you changed your mind?

I was not remotely expecting to be a major wagon today, no.

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Like I was pretty fucking flabbergasted to even be alive.

People voting me off the top of the day is ridiculous.

And yeah, I can like see but seriously WHY WOULD I DO THAT AS SCUM.

I am going to get lynched tomorrow anyway. Denying me my second investigative and scumhunting time is scumclaiming.

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I;m saying that it's ridiculous for you to point to those posts as if you should get towncred for em.

I intended them to make my target clear if I died.

I'm not sure what further you expect me to say on the matter.

I never crumbed, the closest I came was when I was getting super fucking pissed at Mollie/PK.

Why don't you help me make the other four people on the wagon hold themselves responsible for their votes?

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Fire scumreading me really pissed me off, yeah.

I don't like random ass people replacing in and claiming to scumread me on 'gut'.

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I thought I was pretty generally townread this game and I like being townread.

this day has been pretty frustrating for me.

At the very least I want some cases so I can scumhunt off the fucking wagon.

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I don't fakeclaim guilties when there's a risk of them causing me to be mislynched.

2 votes is more than enough and I was already seeing where the discussion was going.

This is scum 101. RC is trying to just survive the day. He's acting like letting him live is a win-win regardless of his alignment. The town is on a clock and we only have so many mislynches before it runs out. Scum is just trying to run out that clock.

Pencil me in as an inevitable lynch tomorrow.

What does it matter whether you lynch the person you would lynch tomorrow today?

Why are you so averse to allowing me to use my second shot?

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Baaaaaah! You want sheep. You got it jarjardrinks.

Help me with Pisskop tomorrow?

Note the complete absence of taking any responsibility for her vote.

Nor explanation of why she likes your case.

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Remember when he claimed jailer to get to the SK in booneytoons?

To get Adenine actually, and you

COMPLETELY FUCKING IGNORED MY CASE

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He won as scum obviously.

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There you go.

What part of this explains why you're still voting me or why you want to lynch Pisskop?

Are you townreading Mollie?

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Us two? I was the second vote.

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Third*

and why would you be willing to lynch PK solely to clear someone who you already think is town?

Why are you scumreading him independently?

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You are hard defending obvscum RC.

How did I go from scum/noise to obvscum?

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This conversation with jarjardrinks and I.

Feel free to clarify that any day now.

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PK literally could not be more obvtown right now, fyi.

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Yeah, obvtown PK needed so much defending am I right?

I agreed to hammer him midday as well so that makes SO MUCH sense.

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Like Titus isn't responding and you're all just letting her float along without giving reasons for anything.

If you don't lynch her first thing tomorrow you have something else coming.

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Or hell,

why wait till tomorrow to lynch the scum slipped slot?

Lynch fucking Titus jesus.

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Do I need to bring up the associatives between Zulfy and Daves again?

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I love how scum is trying to make me fetch VCs for her.

pedit yea pretty much.

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Nosferatu needs to pick up his shit and start getting stuff done.

Fro99er dying fucked this game.

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JJ is the one I wasn't even sure was town, christ.

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I don't have a scumread or a case but I'm not necessarily townreading him like I was Fro99er or am yourself.

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Like I don't understand this god awful insistence that I have to get lynched today when I still have a shot.

Voting me today should be basically scumclaiming imo.

But there's way worse votes and half of them have no explanation, especially Titus FB & Keyser.

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Titus never really explained the progression of my read from policy -> possible scum -> voting DN -> possible scum / distraction -> obvscum btw.

Town needs to not let her get away with that shit, nor Keyser nor FB.

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I'm cop.

there's no fucking role cop in the setup and if there is it's scum.

lynch him right now.

Oh I forgot this shot thing reminded me. InuYasha scumclaim change to shots.

So you're saying that I'm scum because someone else fakeclaimed as some sort of x-shot role?
My claim was under heavy pressure and I didn't think to be specific right away and didn't feel like claiming in twilight when I assumed I was dead anyway.

Try to pull the nk.

Dude I wasn't even fucking thinking about it someone CCed a similar role and I figured I was dead that night anyway.

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Also someone was arguing I cced VS he cced me.

What's the point of that argument? Wouldn't it be far far scummier if he was the one who CCed me?

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Really PK?

Do I need to bring up you lying about the other guy's role and getting vengekilled?

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Like I literally have the least belief in that claim that's even remotely possible.

Please lynch it.

1 page away.

Anyone else notice that Titus clearly isn't actually reading?

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Wait, so your logic is that I fakeclaimed as cop, ensuring my own lynch, to protect PK?

Why the hell wouldn't I have just shoved the Mollie wagon through earlier in the day?

That's literally the least fathomable thing I ever heard.

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Since when do I ever hard push wagons through as scum?
How was I trying to save PK at all? There was still forward momentum on Mollie, I could have easily just stuck it out and lynched it.

You also claimed FA was town, never lynch FA. Then voted her.

My reads changed because I didn't like her AtE?
Are my reads supposed to say the same for the whole entire game?
I even started townreading the slot again later when Mollie to be towny.

Your ISO reads like you would die for PK but checked Aero... Really?[/quote[

Obvtown is obvtown.
I was pretty clear to everyone about Aero being my top scumread going into night.

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You have over 13 days to anticipate being lynched as soon as I flip town.

Seriously, if you're actually town in this game you bring stupidity to a whole new level.

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Go over to your bathroom mirror and ask yourself that.

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Yeah, this game's dumb.

Just vote me imo. everyone will see just how idiotic they are for lynching the cop.

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After my flip you're going to lynch these 3 people in this order.

Titus -> Keyser -> Mollie

If you're going to play a 13 day day phase where you talk about future actions based off of an inaccurate flip all you're going to do is completely tunnel yourself on the wrong people.

PK is town. Dwleee is null but not a scumread. The 3 mentioned above are scum.

I'm just about done here.

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And DN, if you don't unvote me you know what's happening.

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Responding to KS's 'case'

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you KNEW that nos/lld was going to continue to vote me today I MEAN THEY PRETTY MUCH INDICATED THAT WERE GONNA LYNCH ME NO MATTER WHAT and I find it hard to believe that you did not think that pisskop was gonna stop pushing me after a town!nero flip. you have let him trash me all game when you cld have yanked him off of me at any point in time. do you know how 1 way you cld have done that? by viewing me. I was unlikely to be nked and it wld have given town cleared town. instead you used on some1 you were sure was the sk when nobody was arguing that deathy was not the sk. so no, if you are town it was terrible play and a terrible way to use your role and I guess I think you are better than that.

^ this is why I think you are scum rc. if you are town then I am truly sorry. if you are town then fucking get pisskop and nos/lld off my back and help me.

I'm not voting you. I'm voting Titus.

I'm still not sure if I trust you because of how you 180'd your super strong townread on me.

I agree that, particularly considering that he is prob ascetic, it was a bad check. I should have checked you but I got into some huge DN paranoia last night.

Help me lynch scum and we can move forward from there.

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Also, remember the way Zulfy slot jumped on you early D1?

That scum flip would pretty much clear you as well, no?

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I'm not looking for the maf as a team, I'm going after the scummiest people.

I don't see the point in speculating on how many people the maf have atm.

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PK is hard defending me at a point where it would be far easier for scum to just let my lynch go through.

Especially when I'm cop.

I understand where his meta read on FA came from, I understand why he'd be so certain about your slot's alignment, and I think PK is not always consistent even as town.

I don't consider him being scum to be a real possibility; he has no motivation defending me here. Even after my townflip I don't think he'd get towncred for it because people would just say he's white knighting anyway, and he's pretty abrasive in general and with scum slots leading the lynches right now I could easily see him getting lynched later even after I'm confirmed town.

And yeah, I strongly dislike the Fire slot right now, if only because it random voted me and I feel like scum chat was all about quicklynching me today.

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I also abhor the way Titus cleared Cow slot off of unspecified VCA.

So I could see it being Titus/FB/Keyser if they have a roleblocker.

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he wld have every motivation to hard defend you if you were scum with him which is what i thought earlier in this day round and said so.

how about we talk about his shitty read on me. tell me more about that.

If your case on him involves me flipping scum then it's a broken case.

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If there are 4 scum, I do not think there is an SK.

I believe that there are two possible setups here:

3 scum + 1 SK
4 main faction scum

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why wld that be

because I am the goddamn cop and will flip the goddamn cop and if you're town you're sheeping a maf wagon that can easily be pushed on you tomorrow.

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I believe that's incredibly likely, yes.

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Or to clarify; I don't believe that he's actually BP.

I think he's an ascetic non-BP SK.

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jailkeeper does not prevent investigations.

ascetic does.

either I was roleblocked, you were rolestopped (which I doubt), or you are ascetic.

your lynch will immediately follow mine.

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Let's lynch the fucking SK then and I'll invest Mollie tonight.

Like seriously. easy!

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did we all casually forget mollie's extreme anti-town behavior along with literally using frogger like a disposable cellphone to avoid getting lynched yesterday?

@Titus: What do you mean when you say pk's wagon is similar to dave's?

If you get traction on Mollie I'll be interested, she's not a townread of mine.

I'd rather lynch Titus or DN though.

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I don't see what's so confusing about Titus replacing into a literally confirmed slot after Zulfy slipped last twilight.

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Are you townreading her for anything she's done today?

Apparently being earlier on the wagon is townier by her logic but I'm instantly disregarded as being an early bus on the wagon with no explanation given of why such is the case.

She's basically cherry picking facts from the VCs to fit what she wants to push; saying that I fakeclaimed to defend PK makes no sense because 1) I never hard defend my partners and 2) PK wasn't even under pressure by that point.

It's literally the most transparent agenda push. Strongarm the cop lynch through before everyone realizes that your slot is confscum.

pedit: ugh rc what?

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And VCA is absolute trash in general. VCA is basically a game of picking whoever is doing worst in terms of votes and then lynching them and blaming them for it.

But regardless, no legitimate reading of the VCA makes me scum, and that's a fact.

VCA isnt meant to be 100%. Its meant to accompany actual contribuition.

You didnt like the latest post of hers?

I literally don't give a shit what Titus posts at this point.

Her slot slipped and she's wagoning me off of garbage pretenses. she's getting lynched.

If she's town, well, she can learn to not fucking yolowagon me every single goddamn game.

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Who are you proposing we wagon instead?

I could do DeathNote, Keyser, or Mollie.

Do you think RC is scum? If so, vote her. No shiny distractions. I think Mollie is obvtown and have less than zero desire to vote her.

Note distancing from my town flip by calling me a shiny distraction as opposed to scum.

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How about the fact that there was a Dwlee counter wagon, led by Aero and Fro99er who are now conftown no less, and I called them both the fuck out when they tried to switch their votes over to Dwlee.

How hard do you think that I'm bussing here? Or are you implying that I'm scum with Dwlee as well as PK and that you've caught the whole scumteam on the Daves bus?

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My Dwlee read has oscillated quite a bit. I'm not sure where I read him.

I like the fact that he's defending me now though :S

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If we can get a Mollie wagon going I'd be interested.

She's not the most likely scum flip but I think it would be a pretty solid lynch, especially since she keeps voting me.

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Dweelee, interest in Mollie?

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Dwlee, if you had to make a guess at all the remaining scum, who would you pick?

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DN, if I get lynched you die the next day.

I recommend you unvote.

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HOOOOOLD ON GUYS.

Titus is busy. So, we all gotta stop posting.

I'll put the game on pause now.

Locking thread

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Just signal me when you're ready to resume gameplay, mmk?

I'll send letters out to all the other players to explain what's happening.

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Whenever you're ready tho.

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what happened to your confscum read on titus?

lemme guess you just wanna lynch whoever you can as long as they are not on your scumteam.

I'd rather lynch someone who has a chance of being scum over risking the lynch of a town PR before they use their second shot.

If you'd stop voting me like a complete weapon I could stick it out with regards to pushing little miss moonlogic over there.

Otherwise, I have to seek other lynches. Or at least I do once the game resumes.