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In post 52, MaguaofIllusion wrote:I submitted my Daykill on you.
Next time Seacore posts you will be flipped.
Shotty alert.
In post 59, ManiacalLemon wrote:In post 57, Foxace36 wrote:........
Anyways...
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Norman
You seem like the best candidate for a lynch right now?
What say you?
Sheep much? He comes off as more of a noob/troll to me.
Are you really going to defend someone because they are a troll? norman can't be a noob, look at his join date.
norman wrote:As or Magnua, I do believe he might be a scumbag.His refusal to not answer my questions, during night time, is probably an act a scumbag would probably doand then vote me because I randomly make votes depending on first, roster picks and then detection.
Am I missing something here??? During night time?
norman wrote:Everyone else who didn't post and who is currently voting me right after Mr. Magnua did, I take you to be a scumbag.
Nice blanket statement thar.
In post 68, ManiacalLemon wrote:Norman is most likely a troll.
Riggs isn't defending me... his first and only vote isonme.
I'm listening to Attack! by System of a Down... Troll
This is literately the first time I have ever heard the "he is a VI defense" used multiple times by the same person by page 3. Why do you feel the need to defend someone this early. Eat a vote:
vote: lemon
In post 79, ManiacalLemon wrote:I'm going to ignore Norman's slot until he's replaced... if he's replaced >.>
Can everybody vote this guy now?
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Am I doing it right?
In post 81, greenknight wrote:In post 78, Empking wrote:In post 76, Shadow1psc wrote:In post 74, Norman wrote:ManiacalLemon. You've earned yourself my distrust.
FoS: Lemons, MagnuaOfIllusion, Empking, Pine, and greenknight.
Until you 3 can tell me exactly why you're voting me, (exlcuding Lemons because I think he's trying to bluff me and make me think he's not a scumbag) you will remain on my FoS list.
As for Green Knight who recently asked why I'm asking these "random" questions... No these aren't random questions, genius, these are background checks and investigations.
So by the great power of deduction, your scum list and hunting abilities consists of people suspecting you? Is this correct?
What do you deduce from this?
Norman is clearly trolling. Sadly I don't think this behaviour makes him any more likely than the usual random chance to be scum.
Anyway, after reviewing the archive of the old thread,Vote: AurorusVox. I'm suspicious of the amount of buddying/alliance building he seemed to be doing.
You are buddies with lemon. Why do you feel the need to say exactly what lemon has said twice?
@MoI spoof account:Tell me who has just posted so I can run it through my patented shotty bullshit filterTM
In post 86, ManiacalLemon wrote:In post 80, MaguaofIllusion wrote:@ML– why do you think my Daykill on Foxace was a reaction test? He fence-sat way too passively for my tastes and I run on a gut basis for scum-hunting unlike my partner.
And why would you ignore Norman? Is it your belief that trolls can’t be scum?
Because I find it unlikely someone would kill this early in the day. Also, Seacore was online browsing this forum, and nothing was posted, so...
Also, I'll happily vote Norman. It's just hard for me to get a read on trolls. To clarify, I meant I would stop replying to his stupidity.
PEdit: Early information? And if you're replaced, and you're town, we can get a more pro-town player.
Unvote, Vote: Norman
I'm fine with this right now.
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SO you can't get a read on him and you defend him and you still vote for him.
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Spoiler: the most fucking hilarious string of posts in game ever
In post 119, Tammy wrote:In post 92, Foxace36 wrote:In post 89, Norman wrote:I'm neither what you said Foxace.
I'm just here to confuse the fuck out of you and everyone else. I don't actually plan on offering anything of stubstance. I just want to have the pleasure in pissing all of you off.
That's what i got from that.
If that's how you're going to play, I just want you lynched period. Scum or not, a player like you has no place in this game
My vote stands.
Meh...not a fan of policy lynches based on play style hate or comments like this. Sure policy lynches can be useful, I suppose. I prefer looking for scum.
100% agree. Listen to this guy people.
I bet all the scum are active and posting content less posts like the one I just quoted.In post 126, ManiacalLemon wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if all the scum were lurking, watching us tear the town apart.
@Norman, I can usually make 3 posts a day. Two short, on like this. Some days I can do more, some days I can do less. This is dependent on my work load and the daily tv/cricet/sport schedules.after a wank.-
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Because the post is long I won't quote it...
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p3922240 Fox makes a rather scummy jump off of the norman bandwagon.What's scummy about it is the timing (his wagon is becoming increasingly unpopular) and the fact that there is little justification of it. I think fox would be my number two or three scum pick right now.
In post 152, Foxace36 wrote:Soo much to comment on that post it's ridiculous. I may be heading out with some friends so I may have to reply to that tomorrow morning. If not, then expect a reply soon.
Say a post is "ridiculous" doesn't prove anything and lacks a warrant. Tell me why it is ridiculous without rainbow colors and in the first post that you talk about that post. If you don't have the time to do it now, then do it in full later.
In post 162, Shadow1psc wrote:In post 132, CooLDoG wrote:actually, I could do more than this if there was more content.
11 pages isn't enough for you?
Read: 5 new pages with a lot of RVS and stupid stuff that is meaningless thrown around.
In post 165, Guy_Named_Riggs wrote:After reading that jumble of mess, all I have to say at the moment is
Why isn't foxface dead? Wasn't a daykill submitted on him? The mod posted, but no kill was made.
It's called shotty. You must understand that shotty says that he is homeless, a drug addict, has a job at windy's, and posts from a windy's POS. He is known to say stupid shit before, in and out of game.after a wank.-
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@shadow, read: I was in this game before the re-boot. I have read the entire game. I WOLD HAVE HELPED GET CACHE FOR THIS GAME IF THE MOD HADN'T ALL READY GOTTEN IT. I don't feel like I need to comment on anything that I have already commented on when the "cached" pages were actually being made/"in play" before the crash. Also, do you know what the word "new" means? Serious question. Answer:
1. recently made: recently made, created, or invented
a new drug
Microsoft® Encarta® 2006. © 1993-2005 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.after a wank.-
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In post 244, Norman wrote:brizingre1 wrote:In post 241, Norman wrote:Pine disappeared as well... Foxace, don't think I might be crazy but I think the scumbags are denying their presence and they want us to kill each other.
I love this guy.
Where were you the other day? Did you see anyone shift about?
This stops here guys. Looking for scum by just if the read the thread without posting or not is not 100% indicative of alignment. And we are NOT going to lynch off of who has their "show activity" on or off. Plus as furc/fate point out you can't tell if they are actually reading this thread. Some people are in multiple games. However, I do think that the specific critique of empking is valid because he was under suspicion at the time of his "only reading". And Having the theme park forum up and just looking at it doesn't seem to be "trying to get into the mood" I call bullshit.
In post 258, Norman wrote:In post 257, Shadow1psc wrote:Urge to follow policy lynch rising...
Yeah you do that. And while you're at it why don't you assassinate the vigilante!
WTF, vig claim?????????????
In post 288, Foxace36 wrote:I don't even know how to begin arguing with that......
Anyways, I haven't looked to closely into Lemon's posts yet. I dont have a read on him.
Second time you have said this. Do it or don't.
In post 302, kondi2424 wrote:Well, for one, I'm in twelve (about to be thirteen) games right now, and ten of them are in their day phase.
How you people do it, I will never know . However, this should not be an excuse for you not posting and answering questions. When you .in for a game I assume that you are going to play it to the best of your ability regardless of other on site matters.
In post 305, ManiacalLemon wrote:In post 279, Norman wrote:@ ManiacalLemon: Are you Mafia alot of the times?
@ Foxace: After when you put your computer back, tell me: Who do you think is buddies with Maniacal Lemon?
@ Kondi: The same question I asked Foxace.
I've never been.
Sorry I was away, I had band related practice most of the day. Gah, Norman seems scummier and scummier the more I read. Will reread what I missed more in depth.
Elaborate.
Going forward norman will become a really easy lynch for both scum teams to push. Right now I see norman as one of the most pro-active players in the game who is trying to scum hunt. I might be a little biased towards favoring the VI because I was treated like that before (and to a certain extend still to this day), but norman does not have the characteristics of being scum. And nobody as brought a good case against him. Lemon seems to be the main pusher of this policy lynch happy mob.
@lemon:
1) why is norman scum
2) what maid norman more scummy between your posts (I'm talking about above quote)
3) does being a VI increase your chance of being scum?
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norman wrote:It wasn't a vig claim on myself. It was a vig claim towards the whole playerlist. And I think there is atleast one. And if the vigilante wishes to kill, I hope he kills Lemons, kondi, or any of the other 7 people I mentioned.
How do we know that there is a vig? Why are we even speculating about it?
In post 325, MagnaofIllusion wrote:And look who pops up 5 whopping minutes after I point out he's possibly avoiding the thread?
Scumtastic!
This. Also, this is going to get really confusing really quickly with you and the hydra, just saying .
Now I'm really confused:
MoI hydra" wrote:Cooldog - Ignorance is town, and there's no way scum would be so ignorant of who made up this hydra (that is,hitogoroshiand myself) as to confuse us with drmyshottyizsik and DGB.
contrast with
[quote="hydra's sig]A hydra ofFateandFurcolow.[/quote]
In post 330, trekker wrote:VOTE: CooLDoG
his actions have been clearly scum motivated all game. he's also a chronic lurker.
chronic lurker.... who else is a chronic lurker? Also, why are my posts scum motivated? I fail to see a warrant for such a claim.
Justification for your vote?
norman wrote:Secondly, I'm only voting Kondi in response to him voting me because he thinks I'm a scumbag. Well in retaliation I'm voting him because he voted for me. Simple as that. I have no solid evidence currently to accuse him of. I really don't have any solid accusations of anyone. I'm just going by background investigations, gamblings, and reactions.
How can you square the above with you saying that you don't omgus?
In post 343, trekker wrote:Shadoweh is mafia
This might be a good justification in another universe... but not here. Why is shadoweh scum?
hydra wrote:
So trekker is a Epic Mafia troll VI who will also be ignored like Norman. They can go make finger-paints in the corner as far as I’m concerned. I’ll also insta-vote trekker if he gets to L-1. Fair warning is fair.
agree. 100% agree.
In post 358, trekker wrote:In post 349, Shadoweh wrote:In post 347, Haze wrote:lol wtf was totally gonna vote pine too until 338. If I voted him it wouldn't really work for me now would it...
I'll stick to my second best choice
VOTE: Tammy
Are you scum? >_>
nah, you are.
dszf,jsfmdioldsjrwoefsid439-u09048
^My fists pounding into the keyboard. Justify your votes and scum suspects or replace out.
unvote, vote: trekker
In post 376, trekker wrote:this MaguaOfIllusion guy is scum with Shadoweh.
Not justifying votes hurts the towns scum hunting ability. Also, your appearance right when called out is scummy.
~ninjas.... sorry if some of the stuff I ask has allready been answered.
@norman, isn't your style of omgus essentially the same sort of stupid voting with little qualifications as what you say omgus is?after a wank.-
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In post 414, MaguaofIllusion wrote:ITT Norman is going to soft-claim and backtrack on every possible role in the hopes of outing Town Powerroles!!!
Good Times!
Can we have lynch time now please?
yes.
Norman, I'm going to vote you because it is day 1.
vote:norman
and because I want to.
@green, read better. Like seriously, make sure that what you are saying is true before you post it.
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In post 437, ManiacalLemon wrote:CooLDoG, that seems scummy.
"Because it is day 1... and because I want to"
sorry that you didn't catch the fact that I was sarcastically voting using his reasons for omgusing half the player list. Need to learn sarcasm tagsafter a wank.-
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In post 445, Lord Mhork wrote:This is driving me insane.
@CooLDoG:
Go here.
Look at posts 33 and 36. Do you see a Magua here? No, you don't.
Now look here and here.
Note how MagnaofIllusion isn't on the list either.
The signature is a joke, just like the last one which proclaimed it to be a hydra of shotty and DGB.
Understand?
OH MY GOD. It makes sense now. Stupid sigs LIE!
You LIE Stupid sig.
@norman, go on the wiki and read the article on omgus. Also note how all of your townlist are people who haven't voted for you.after a wank.-
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In post 481, Norman wrote:Idk. He's agreeing with everything I say, and he's voting for the Pine guy. He might be a rainbow wizard of neutral alignment for all I'm aware of.
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In post 499, Norman wrote:Pardon if I may be slightly annoying, but why are we not voting for Pine now?
the real question is why isn't he voting for you when he has been pushing for your lynch for the past 20 pages or so. Also, good catch on the day-talk thing... lynch norman now please.after a wank.-
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In post 515, Norman wrote:In post 514, CooLDoG wrote:@norman, how could one vote for you and not be a scumbag?
Didn't I explain this a day or an hour ago? They would want to vote me because I seemed like an easy target. They want to blend in with the townspeople so that they woudn't get recognized as scumbags. If there isn't atleast 1 scumbag on there well then the reverse psychology effect obviously didn't work and I should've executed it later...
Don't take the negative. Under what situation could I vote for you and not be a scumbag? Apparently the answer is never. Correct? Because we are all trying to push an easy lynch right. Maybe it's an easy lynch for a reason. Because you are acting so damn scummy (as I have outlined before) that it would be stupid not to vote for you. Also, you do realize that acting stupid and putting everybody that has ever voted for you on your scum list hurts town and just creates a bunch of useless noise.after a wank.-
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In post 532, Shadow1psc wrote:Ok, at least I know people can read my posts now.
@CoolDog: Bolded for emphasis, are you just flat out ignoring my posts?
I read your posts but I really don't have much to say about them because I have allready answered to the only argument that you have brought up against me. Also, you have only mentioned me in 3 of your 33 some odd posts. SO I don't understand what I'm supposed to answer to or why you are even asking this.
@lemons, I have contributed more meaningful anlisis and have posted more than you. Why am I on your scum list anyway... ohh I forgot you, norman, trekker, MoS, peregin, and a bunch of other fuckers who simply refuse to give any justification for thier reads and votes. This will not be a sustainable way to play in the later game when we are down a few town members. Scum will rape this town if the current state of things continues, that is my prediction.
@trekker, you have three options at the moment. 1, Make posts with more than five words. 2, replace out. 3, claim that you have a post restriction that forces you to post spam posts that do not contribute to the game. Pick one.
In post 545, MaguaofIllusion wrote:Can we just lynch Trekker then? Please? I can only stand so much stupidity before I go on a rampage the sight of which will scar most players for the rest of their days.
I am almost up to *here* with the stupid fucks in this game. That's coming from me, CooLDoG. At least I try... these guys aren't even trying.
In post 548, trekker wrote:everything cool dog says is irrelevant, because he's scum.
Why am I scum? I would be more than willing to accept your reasons if they were valid andif you actually had any.
In post 551, trekker wrote:In post 545, MaguaofIllusion wrote:Can we just lynch Trekker then? Please? I can only stand so much stupidity before I go on a rampage the sight of which will scar most players for the rest of their days.
can you stop being an elitist prick? you're being a total dick and making this game unenjoyable because your head is too far up your ass. learn the basics of catching scum before you run your mouth and declare yourself above everyone else, or bybthe time the game is over you'll look like a moronic asshole.
So randomly voting for people without supplying any reasons, posting one word spam posts, and not actually trying to play the game is how you catch scum? Serious question by the way.
Okay, lemon is the first one to have valid reasons. Let me address why I have flipped my read on norman. At the start of the game I honestly thought he was simply a miss understood VI at the start of the game who we could glean some information from. However once his scum list started to grow and his votes turned to omgus only I have concluded that he will only be a hindrance to the town if he is town, or he could be scum just trying to fuck us up and play off of his meta. Hell, I have done that several times when I have played scum.
People I would support a lynch for (in no particular order):
Norman
trekker
lemons
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In post 572, ManiacalLemon wrote:He still seems scummy. The possibility of a jester worries me, however.
The possibility of a jester in this game is so close to zero that it is in fact zero.
mod wrote:Barbarian - Must not be Lawful
Bard - Must not be Lawful
Cleric - May be of any alignment (Although technically must be within one alignment step of their deity, but ignore that here)
Commoner - May be of any alignment
Druid - Must contain one element of Neutral
Fighter - May be of any alignment
Paladin - Must be Lawful Good
Ranger - May be of any alignment
Rogue - May be of any alignment
Sorcerer - May be of any alignment
Wizard - May be of any alignment
One of these has to be the jester then. Which is very very unlikely. Hell, the mod might even confirm that there isn't a jester.
@norman, omgusing half the player list is a hindrance to the town, especially when you have very few reasons for any of your votes.after a wank.-
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In post 589, kondi2424 wrote:Hey Norman is trekker playing the game?
Can I answer that? Yeah, I guess I will. Trekker is not actually playing the game. He is simply voting for whoever floats his boat. Who know why he is voting for me right now. He sure as hell won't tell you.
In post 595, trekker wrote:CoolDoG, LynchMePls, Shadoweh. one scum team.
Pine, two others. second scum team.
looking for more connections.
Why is this true?
In post 601, Norman wrote:Rats. he got away... Well I'm pretty much fed up with all this non-lynching business going around and I'm an impatient person... When will this day ever end...
Well I got some things to do. Adios amigoes. I'll be back when you guys have made up your mind. And it better not be me because I try hard to play this game.
Sorry to break it to you, but this day ain't gonna be over for some time. We only have 5 people on the two biggest wagons. That's about half needed to lynch on each individual one.
In post 602, Pine wrote:Pretty much don't want to play this game anymore. People like Norman just make Mafia un-fun.
I'm a Chaotic Good Bard. I can Detect Law every night in search of the LE faction.
name claimed. Claimed a power role. What the fuck are you doing?
In post 603, Pine wrote:Which is odd, actually, as 3.5 Bard has no alignment-detection spells on the standard list.
Which makes me not want to believe your claim. But still, why did you claim?
In post 604, Norman wrote:In post 602, Pine wrote:Pretty much don't want to play this game anymore. People like Norman just make Mafia un-fun.I'm a Chaotic Good Bard. I can Detect Law every night in search of the LE faction
First of all I don't try to make Mafia un-fun. And I didn't say I was going forever, I'm watching progress.
And if you're a Bard how about you detect me and see if I'm Town, if I am, could you kindly explain these angry people to kindly get their hands off the rope for a lynch that should never happen.
There are two towns s it would take two cops (if they exist) to come out here and claim and both target the same person. You could also be neutral which would probably require a third cop to clear you... Also this is probably not the best strategy. We should NOT be directing cops at all. Scum might have a bus driver/jail-keeper/something that would misdirect the cop's action. Also it gives the mafia more time to think over how they will handle the alignment result that the cop gives. Overall bad idea.
In post 614, trekker wrote:cooldog is mafia
WHY, WHY, WHY?
In post 616, Pine wrote:Norman, I'll tell you to fuck off all I like. You're annoying, spammy, you make me want to replace out of a game I've been anticipating for half a year and was the first pre/in for, and you helped force a Cop to claim on D1 mostly out of OMGUS and because midterms are kicking my ass.
So fuck you.
How did he force you to claim. Seems to me that you claimed 100% on your own accord.
5678 the answer to 8x7 is the two numbers that come before it. Man, elementary school was where it was at.
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In post 633, Pine wrote:You people questioning the timing of my claim - are you nuts? There was a wagon on me, picking up steam, led by morons who had no good reasons but were getting support from smart people that could actually make it happen. I straight up don't have time to keep up with the pace of a frantic lynch mob with midterms (though they're coming to a close soon) and if I'd waited to claim, it would have been ignored. My only option was either get really intense, really fast with this thread (which was impractical for me) or stop it dead in its tracks.
628 and 629 are practically scum claims.
Your wagon is not was and, for the relative future, will not be close to lynch. Do you count four votes close to lynch in a 20+ player game when it takes over 11 to lynch?!?!?!
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In post 649, Empking wrote:With 26 players how do we expect to get a lynch in 9 days, by the way?
Actual lol here. What is the fastest large lynch anyway? Hint, it was one post and was a bad idea . But the fifth shortest day in all of MS history (a pretty long time) is 5 days. Which is still pretty short. I'm going off on tangents here again.
In post 655, kondi2424 wrote:Norman, that was fucking Mayo Clinic, where whispersilk was dictating the game with "logix" and "planz", and I replaced out right after you did. Your argument is invalid.
Just a little meta here for those who don't know. Norman is 1000x better than mist beauty.
@moI's post. Lead on brother. However, I must ask, what do you think of tammy vs. zed? Do you think that their interaction is scummy, or neutral? Also, lynch scum or anti-town (who is town aligned, if you get what I mean)? Also, I would be happy to lynch greeknight as well.
Also, if we are going to policy lynch we had better do it today as briz correctly points out. By d-2 we should be lynching who we think is scum only. With two kills its even debatable if we should P-lynch d1. But personally I would be for a norman lynch or a trekker P-lynch.
norman wrote:You obviously don't know what I'm capable of. You don't allow people second chances do you? It's a shame, briz. Because if you were in my position I'd allow you a second chance. Yeah. Who's the dick now?
Okay, prove us wrong and show us that you are better. If you actually try to catch scum and scum hunt and not omgus half the player list then we/I won't vote for you.
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If I had the ability tonuke every playershoot, kick, ban every stupid fucker on a wagon, I'd target the CD wagon.
Fixed
Also, LMP should win the award for the most witty player in this game, just saying.
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What the fuck is this epic mafia people keep mentioning?
Stay ignorant. I think either UT, oman, or NS actually never said a word on a certain EM account and he has a really good win/loss record. So it's basically the shit pool of mafia gaming.
In post 663, LimMePls wrote:Foxace36 wrote:P.S. If you read all of Suzanne Collin's hunger games books, don't go see the movie. It'll piss you off. Jus' sayin'.
Disagree. The movie was good. You're probably one of those people that freaks out because "OMFG no TOM BOMBADIL!" Newsflash: Movies aren't books. That's why they say they're "adapted" from the book.
It is up for debate if movies can even be compared to books. Totally different medium. Also, Battle Royal movie/book is way way better imo.
@fox, eh I might vote for pine. Not my top choice but passable. Slight scum read here...
norman wrote:Who's my favourite little turdshit, you are Feysal, you are. Awwww you're so cute trying to make me look like crap. I applaud you for your efforts you worthless, scum-sucking, discriminating, negligant, afflicted, calamitous, vile motherfucking bastard. I hope some day you may be able to eat feces like the piece of shit you are.
Damn, that's harsh, and the spelling is worse than mine!
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In post 683, kondi2424 wrote:@CooL: If we're doing this purely for PL, trekker would be better than Norman by a mile.
true true. I see a norman lynch as a double whammy of lynchy goodness.
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norman wrote:This is not an OMGUS vote, this isn't a "whatever" vote, this isn't a sensible vote, it's a sincere hatred vote. And I intend to kill everyone with votes that mock me.
Voting purely off of your emotions is not pro-town. Just gonna say that. Also, I hold very few grudges after a game is over. It's the nature of the game to fight. Sorry if I am being harsh.
[quote='trekker the person who never justifies his vote and does not contribute to the game]now, let's lynch cooldog.[/quote]
my response:
Also, this is a great site, you should check it out!
@peri, so because nobody else says something I am scum. And I hardly brought it up. If you claim vig, you do that. I don't claim for you.
[quot="LM"]What is with all this hate and name-calling? Are we fourth graders again? This is nothing but sheer chaos, spam, and more chaos! How is anyone supposed to get any scumhunting done amongst this?! Norman, you are making it really hard for me to stick to my 'no policy-lynching' policy. Feysal, whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy are you feeding the flames?
I'll catch up to any questions directed at me later when I'm not fuming at the stupidity going on around me, yeah?[/quote]
Agree. Guys, cut the noise and take more time making each individual post as appposed to spamming the thread with useless shit.
Why?
norman wrote:Well I wanted to ask Feysal a question but then herring choker punk thought it was ok to call me a retard while I clearly told himI was acting like one for game purposes only.
The bolded should net insta lynch. You are purposefully duming down your mental abilities when you play this game. Why? Doing it to get "VI Points" to avoid a lynch?
norman wrote:Why are these people ignoring my questions?! I want answers not fucking dismisses! Maybe the quiet people posting are town and the ones making bogus reasons are probably scumbags!
Maybe you should have thought about how people would receive your questions/comments later in the game before you turned into an omgus happy ass hat.
^Also, you can have that quote for your sig.
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^says the guy who hasn't read 30 pages of norman.
Trekker, can I just ignore you? Or could you like, I don't know, Stick a fork and outlet, or throw a toaster in the shower while the water is running and while you are inside of the shower?
Need reasons man. Why is voting for norman scummy? Why is me voting for norman make me more scummy than the rest of the player list? If you can't build a logical case on me and you refuse to answer questions and contribute to the town, my suggestion is to go back to EM with your kind and let the adults play this game.after a wank.-
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I meant to make it a mouth full. The toaster in a shower was actually a reference to some old advertisements for "Hitman: Blood Money" (oddly enough, I don't own the game). And the fork in an outlet was meant to be intentionally confusing. See, I;m trying to go over Trekker's reading level, which is obviously very low sense he can't put forth at least a half-assed analisis of anything that has gone on in this entire game, so that it won't hurt his feelings as much.after a wank.-
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In post 752, kondi2424 wrote:The thing is, he's saying this to get trekker to play Mafia as opposed to doing nothing.
In post 753, Mastermind of Sin wrote:You're operating under the assumption that what is going on in this thread is actually mafia. I haven't seen anything yet that particularly strikes me as useful.
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... I don't even know what to say.
Trekker, yes or no, this is your case on me:
1) CooLDoG Votes for norman, thus he is scum
2) CooLDoG doesn't like Epicmafia, therefore he is scum
3) CooLDoG has a worse win% on Epicmafia, therfore he is scum
4) CooLDoG is stupid, therfore he is scum
Here is my similar case on you:
1)Trekker's case does not hold any logic
2) Trekker is obviously just hopping on the largest bandwagon in order to get an easy lynch
3) trekker refuses to post any content, thus making his slot harder to read and contributes a lot less to the town
4) Trekker talks about irrelevant things such as EM to dodge prods
5) Trekker has yet to post anything more than "CooLDoG is scum" which lowers the amount of information the town has
6) trekker has yet to ask a question or scum hunt, demonstrating that he does not care if we lynch scum or not
7) Trekker does not respond to anything said about him, unless it is about Epic mafia which is rather irrelevant
8) Trekker is scared that he will be labeled as a lurker (evidence by MoI's call and your appearance 5mins later) and thus being lynched. Also, you have failed to adiquitly disperse the "5 min appearance" argument by any standard.
9) Only talking about one player for about 31 pages. And not developing any other reads.
10) hasn't developed any reads.
Conclusion: Trekker is not part of a town aligned faction.
Now it's a toss up between trekker and norman. We still have 8-9 days... I'll go with my strongest read then.
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In post 758, trekker wrote:In post 750, CooLDoG wrote:I meant to make it a mouth full. The toaster in a shower was actually a reference to some old advertisements for "Hitman: Blood Money" (oddly enough, I don't own the game). And the fork in an outlet was meant to be intentionally confusing. See, I;m trying to go over Trekker's reading level, which is obviously very low sense he can't put forth at least a half-assed analisis of anything that has gone on in this entire game, so that it won't hurt his feelings as much.
haha, youre kinda stu[pid, tahts why youre obvious mafia
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In post 808, Moneybags wrote:Alright. So I read the 30 pages of madness.
I'm going to try something here. I'm a Commoner. I'm town and have no power, just VT. I'm going to keep my alignment to myself though.
In other news, here's what I think of the game:
Norman, trekker, kondi, Tammy, and that MOI hydra thing are all town.
I believe Pine's claim so he's town also.
I think most of the people that voted Norman (and some more recent) are scum. Norman's behavior isn't... typical, so it's an easy town lynch for scum.
Also @Norman: Turn it down a few notches. Watch some of the personal attacks. It's just a game... although I know you're town and don't want anything to do with your wagon, you need to watch how you act.
Got any actual scum reads instead of generalizations.
@Pine, before making such a big step as a claim shouldn't you read the whole thread first?
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In post 837, Pine wrote:In post 835, CooLDoG wrote:@Pine, before making such a big step as a claim shouldn't you read the whole thread first?
@Pine's 820, One, you had no good reason to claim. Ypur reasdon was that you were to goddamn lazy to read the thread. Is lurking a scum tell for you?
1) Fuck you, 13 out of 26 people ready to lynch me, regardless of actual number of votes, was enough to make me panic.
2) Lurking is never, ever a scum tell on D1. Complete absence from the thread is actually a weak Town tell, as it indicates that there's no scum QT to remind you, no pressure to prove yourself, and the person isn't excited about the challenge.
Yeah, only scum are going to see false pressure when you had zero chance for a lynch at the time. Also, only scum would so hard core lurk that they wouldn't even know what situation there wagon is in.
@Zdnek, the only thing that would make me think that you are scummy is your tunnel vision on tammy. It seems to me that you are almost exclusively attacking her/him. Also, your meta arguments are not very convincing in my opinion. That's partly because I don't put much stock in meta (especially related some one entirely different) and also because you have really only made one argument against tammy. If I don't buy that one argument (Sorry, I don't) you will never get me to vote for tammy. I want to see more varied scum hunting from you.after a wank.-
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Okay, this is the short dialog that makes me scum:
CooLDoG wrote:Also, it is my impression that there aren't any "scum" in the normal sense of the term.
To me it sounds like this game is actually two games mushed into one big town. Look at the number of players in the game... 2x13=26. But does each faction have equal numbers? Or is it exactly like two minis mushed together?
[quote"shadow1psc He made two back to back posts, so I just combined them."]Good morning everyone. My usual play carries into this very interesting game, I probably won't post a lot fri-sun, but will put forth much effort during the regular week. Also, who in gods name let MaguaofIllusion happen? That's not cool. Cooldog, I would think that there's probably a scum in the normal sense, chaotic evil, and two different towns can win simultaneously should they be vanquished? My wincon implies this. In fact, It's more like there's two towns both split into two because of lawful/chaotic. One doesn't need the other to win, but it doesn't prohibit them from winning should the other fall.
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> Game Specific Mechanics
28) When a faction achieves its win condition, all members of that faction 'win' and then leave the game. Any surviving direct opponents also leave the game. The game then continues until the remaining two factions conclude their conflict.[/quote]
How am I scum from that? Like, really, how am I scum from that. I don't think I need to say anything more than that. In fact talking about win cons, does yours happen to be chaotic evil or lawful evil? And does your scum team happen to have 3 people (normal size for a mini normal [3/13]) in it.after a wank.-
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In post 870, Shadow1psc wrote:In post 868, CooLDoG wrote:^I'm going to go read that original dialog. I'll comment on it. Funny how after 35 pages you case is basically on some dialog that happened around page -5.
That's not what my case is based on, just what gave me initial suspicion, because lolday1. If you read any of my other posts concerning you, you'd find the other reasons why I placed my vote on you. Very little of it has to do with those first pages, even my last post says as much. It was a hint at either feigning ignorance, or faking content/discussion, and you never really picked up the ball into any relevant discussion the game held.
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In post 875, Shadow1psc wrote:In post 874, CooLDoG wrote:SCUMSLIP! Actually, that was sorta a joke. I'll get to whatever you posted about me when I have more time to read and formulate a post.
See, this is the problem I do indeed have with you. it's been like a week since I started digging into you, and you didn't even respond to a post of mine until there was a wagon on you, despite me asking direct questions and formulating logical questions. The one saving grace you have right now are the people who jumped on your wagon.
Ohh, because I thought what you were bring up was rather ridiculous and silly. I'll look into it in more detail sense it appears to bother you so much. Today actually isn't the best day for me due to real life obligations. Probably tomorrow I can do a good read of all your posts and stuff. Also, can I have your top scum suspects for reference in anticipation for my re-read.after a wank.-
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In post 886, brizingre1 wrote:Zdenek seems townier to me, simply because I cant see scum pushing the (admittedly idiotic) 'Tammy is scum wagon' to such an extent, even when most of the players have said its a bad idea.
With 4 days left, we need to find a common concensus regarding who to lynch. Personally I would be most happy with a Foxace lynch, but I would also be okay with a lynch on:
AurousVox
Moneybags
LordMhork
Pine
Mastermind of Sin
+ Any of the trolls/lurkers in this game
Foxace Wall:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p3931262, yet as MoI pointed out, 8 of these posts were from the head you considered town, and 6 of them were from the head you considered 'iffy', the whole 'one head is town one is scum' argument from him seems like he is at the very least reaching, trying to find some theory where it is difficult to be proved wrong.
His latest scum reads read like my town reads except for Shadoweh and Pine, and it seems to just be whoever is suspecting him, adding to the fact that he seems to be eternally promisisng to 'post his reasoning later', despite never doing so.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p3930137
His self vote just seemed like an attempt to be seen as town, as he saw how everyone responded to Norman's self-vote, especially his awful reasoning 'It will be easier to narrow down the scum because town will have more information to go off.', which is quite simply utrue
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Foxface, meh for me. Still have a neutral read. Vox, maybe, not sold yet either. I could sorta go along with a money bags or mhrok lynch. I could follow either a pine or a MoS lynch for sure. I could also go for any "troll" because I find them legitimately scummy. But we do need to start thinking about who we should lynch and build a consensus, soon.after a wank.-
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In post 162, Shadow1psc wrote:In post 132, CooLDoG wrote:actually, I could do more than this if there was more content.
11 pages isn't enough for you?
Not when the first 11 pages are filled with noise. Content =/= number of pages.
In post 190, Shadow1psc wrote:In post 189, MaguaofIllusion wrote:In post 186, Shadow1psc wrote:You might also note that I've called Foxace town on multiple occasions. I was waiting for some substance from people that haven't posted/posted much since the restart. I got what I wanted though, so let me read back into the original thread one more time, there was something that struck me wrong.
So let me get this straight -
You've called Foxace Town on multiple occasions and yet your vote is still sitting on him even after you post this?
If your response revolves around the concept of an RVS vote don't bother running that up the flag-pole since votes are votes and keeping your vote parked on a Town read regardless of how much pressure they have is scummy.
Blah blah blah Fate hydra blah blah.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: CoolDog
As a rule of thumb I'm always wary of people who don't bother to read the rules.
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In post 162, Shadow1psc wrote:In post 132, CooLDoG wrote:actually, I could do more than this if there was more content.
11 pages isn't enough for you?
Read: 5 new pages with a lot of RVS and stupid stuff that is meaningless thrown around.
11 pages between the original game (which is still plenty relevant) and this new incarnation. If you couldn't find something to say by then about the play going on, you're not trying hard enough or you're dodgy scum. You're not a noob, and plenty has happened so I'm going to assume dodgy scum.
Keep in mind that I had already commented on the first pages in the previous game. Trust me I was there and I was an active poster (actually probably had more posts than you). Also seeing from your iso you didn't have much to say either (just for further evidence that there was nothing to talk about), so the same thing could be said about you. I fail to see you building a big case, in fact nobody has posted much for the first 5 (or 11) pages, because we were still in the formation phases (in both cases) and norman and co. were creating a lot of noise. Read the first 5 pages for your self.
In post 196, Shadow1psc wrote:That still doesn't mean you should shrug off the 6 pages of the current game which arguably started out of RVS. I obviously know you were in the game before the reboot, we even had a short conversation. You were even a topic of discussion on pages 4 and 5, of which you didnotcomment on, so if you really want to get all semantics, you had 7 pages to comment on.
Again, I am supposed to comment on a bunch of RVS votes and something that was already discussed. Also I had posted two times on page 4 of the original thread. The suspicions on me were not well fleshed out at all and I would have probably responded to them with a youtube video with the title of "why why why". Also, nobody is using those reasons for voting me now (hint, they were gut reads) or on the first 5 pages of the new thread so I don't see why I should be forced to comment on irrelevancy. IN FACT SEVERAL PEOPLE ON THE LAST PAGE OF THE OLD THREAD VOTED ON PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY SAID THAT THERE WASN'T A GOOD CASE ON ME. (briz, shadow, and zde voted for people who were pushing a case on me. You can read the thread for yourself, look at page 5 near the bottom)
In post 355, Shadow1psc wrote:In post 320, Guy_Named_Riggs wrote:...WTF?....Really? What is all of this?
VOTE:shadow1psc
The one thing I actually remeber through reading this is that you changed your vote after someone accussed you of voting elsewhere. I don't like the vibes that's sending me.
So that stuck, but you didn't bother to go back for context? Can you tell me why I changed my vote without going back and reading it, or did you just see that someone mentioned I had my vote parked somewhere and I changed it willy-nilly?
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serious question, but does passive play usually = scum tell? I was passive as hell in ASoS. I assume Magua wrote that, and in turn is now really wary of my play re: noob plea in AFfC. You'll find that my day one play is fairly consistent throughout any game because of the general day one crap. The last game especially (even as scum) dampened my spirits thanks to how simply bad town played day 1/2.
My 'active' play here though, is that (and I'll double back to confirm this after my quick catch up this morning) CoolDog has said nothing in response to my accusations.
Actually, I sorta did.
Spoiler: my quotes
In fact that last quote was devoted to specifically addressing your post. Your posts 400 and 492 are answered by the above. Ohhh and your 522, 532, 555, and to a certain extent your 842.... let's look at 842:
In post 842, Shadow1psc wrote:In post 697, Tammy wrote:@Shadow1psc - I reread CoolDog, here and in the other thread, and I don't get why you think he's scum. I understand your original point. I've seen scum in almost every game I've been in feign ignorance about the setup or some aspect that they should definitely know about, so it's good to be a bit weary about it, but the thing is it looks like pretty genuine confusion, and that coupled with his posts in this incarnation, which look quite town, I don't see the accusations. I don't know why you keep harping on it either. A good number of your posts are harping on CoolDog, this situation, and anyone who hasn't acknowledged it. Are you basing your suspicion of him solely on his confusion in the original thread?
Have you found that scum is more likely to not read the rules?
There's not much to go on day one. In my experience people will argue about mechanics, post nonsense, and scum will distance/bus hard, when/if they do post at all. A lot of day one is town pulling itself apart, and the smart scum will sit back and let it happen. My other theory is that scum are also much less likely to care about mechanics and reading first posts/rules because they being the informed minority already gives a sense of security imo. Now, you could say at this point then that why would someone on the scum team bother to question those rules, but then you have one of two things happening; a slip, or fake content. Nothing about CoolDog's posts have seemed genuine, and his general disinterest and ability to repeatedly slip under the radar until we banded together to actually form a train and get an inquiry going, which actually cause CoolDog to form some real responses to people was my goal, should be the goal of anyone playing. To get some content, to finally be able to tell if he is playing reactive, or if he's lurking, trying to avoid the camera eye.
This is also why I made sure to raise an eyebrow every time Magua called me passive. I don't get if he was trying to get a rise out of me, or truly believes that the way I have been playing is different than I normally play/worse than people like CoolDog's play. Passive/Reactive play isn't always a scum tell in and of itself. so I'm going to really take a hard look at CoolDog's responses to the train on him, but I don't like the people that amounted to it. It sprang up almost instantly because I called out someone for voicing suspicion, but not voting, and then snowballed to a strange degree that makes me re-think the wagons that were leading at the time.
Funny, that you accuse me of slipping under the radar when I have about 20 more posts than you (51 to 36). And my posts are constantly longer than you. And it is also odd that you call my play reactive when I have built reasonable arguments against several players (lemons, trekker, norman, etc.). I argue that you are lurking more than me (if that word is even applicable to both of us) and you are posting less varied content than me. You are simply reiterating the same false argument over and over again through most of your iso.after a wank.-
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In post 901, Mastermind of Sin wrote:Jesus I almost want to vote CD for stupidity.
While that is my general meta, I must ask, is this is in regard to the hydra thing?after a wank.-
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CooLDoG Mafia Scum
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CooLDoG Mafia Scum
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@mod, sorry for your loss
In post 934, Shadow1psc wrote:Can we please just lynch that?
Yeah, I agree with you here. If norman isn't even going to try to defend himself...unvote, vote:norman
In post 943, Norman wrote:In post 942, Pine wrote:Please, please tell me there's a Vig out there.
Lately, I'm liking Greenknight as Town and MoI's arguments for Zdenek-scum.
Well if there is a vigilante out there I'm pretty sure he wouldn't kill such a fellow like myself.
After all I have no quarrel with him and he has no quarrel with me. You people however have problems.
Actually, you are an exceptional vig kill for the record.
In post 947, mastin2 wrote:Alright. Let's try something different.
Everyone:That's every single other player in the game.
I want, in your own words, your summary of how the game has gone so far.
At the same time, I'd also like you to tell me how many scum you think are in the game--I know this game is a lil' unusual, but I imagine that there is a scum faction out there.
And of course, who they are--not a single person; I want you to give me a whole team. Plus of course the reasoning you think they're scum together.
Anyone:Are there any claims I should be made aware of?
First pint:
BUNCH OF NOISE. You can't arse anybody here to post content.
also, I would say 6 scum, 3 to each side.
In post 950, AurorusVox wrote:MATIN PLEASE LICK MY NIPPLES
I support this.
@mastin, qts? did I miss something? Also, I'll get you some more later if I can.after a wank.