Mafia with the Quickness 2 GAME OVER!

[SleepyKrew]

VOTE: Speedy Saki
You can all thank me later

[SleepyKrew]

VOTE: Imperium

They need to die. Don't ask why.

I cannot allow this

[SleepyKrew]

We're a miller.

Declare real or not

right now

Don't try to be cute with it

[SleepyKrew]

what about mine?

I thought yours was a joke
Same thing
Real or not
This is not a toy to play with
This is the most srs game

[SleepyKrew]

then we lynch him, if he is miller, we lynch you... simples

Are
You
Serious

[SleepyKrew]

I'll let you work it out

UNVOTE:
VOTE: jason

[SleepyKrew]

Say I were to counterclaim this???

We'll gladly take the 1 for 1 trade.

But what if I was seriously counter-claiming???

ARE YOU SERIOUS

[SleepyKrew]

It won't cut of the threat, no.. you are rght, SK. However it will disable their ability to day talk, which is vital to stratagy

Please don't say SK
Why so confident there is only one encryptor?
Why are you willing to kill a townie just to maybe get rid of daytalk instead of doing some scumhunting?

[SleepyKrew]

I'll let you work it out

UNVOTE:
VOTE: jason

Can't work it out then?

When has being obtuse ever helped town?
(never)
When has being obtuse ever helped scum?
(always)
When did being obtuse as town become acceptable?
(I really want to know)

[SleepyKrew]

SAD if he thinks he should die, who am I to question that? As far as I know this isn't bastard so no jesters.

jason, Juls, who else is riding the J train to scumtown?

[SleepyKrew]

ARE YOU SERIOUS

Am I???

#3

[SleepyKrew]

It won't cut of the threat, no.. you are rght, SK. However it will disable their ability to day talk, which is vital to stratagy

Please don't say SK
Why so confident there is only one encryptor?
Why are you willing to kill a townie just to maybe get rid of daytalk instead of doing some scumhunting?

I'm not confident of one... nor have I ever said there might be only one, if you read my post 58

Desp - can you go into anymore detail on your PM without breaking rules?

By implying multiple encryptors, I am assuming multiball scum?

I actually float the idea of more than one, and am following up with questions about it...

Why are you so unwilling to cut of what could be a vital scum advantage of having scum talk? That's why I would be for the encryptor lynch, as it hurts scum long term in not being able to talk during the day and talk as each scanario unfolds.

So if two or three people said "I'm a town encryptor", you'd want them all dead rather than doing scumhunting?

[SleepyKrew]

Hi!

VOTE: sir arthur dayne

Here we go!

Good voting Tammy

UNVOTE:
VOTE: SAD

[SleepyKrew]

I'll let you work it out

UNVOTE:
VOTE: jason

Can't work it out then?

When has being obtuse ever helped town?
(never)
When has being obtuse ever helped scum?
(always)
When did being obtuse as town become acceptable?
(I really want to know)

I was more or less reaction fishing.. wanted to see what reaction would come of a proposed 1 vs 1.... If X claims miller, and Y is lynched flipping miller we lynch X.

this was however before the talk of multiple encryptors which does sorta render my idea useless now.

Well? Share with the class what results this brilliant fishing brought?

[SleepyKrew]

You tell me why we should not lynch him then?

Please use quotes

policy lynching is dumb

UNVOTE:
VOTE: sir arthur dayne

What policy lynch?

Maybe it's due to norms at my homesite, but I don't think daytalk is that big a deal definitely not something SO SCAREY I'd want to lynch someone who looks town from this to get rid of.

THIS GIRL KNOWS WHAT'S UP

[SleepyKrew]

It won't cut of the threat, no.. you are rght, SK. However it will disable their ability to day talk, which is vital to stratagy

Please don't say SK
Why so confident there is only one encryptor?
Why are you willing to kill a townie just to maybe get rid of daytalk instead of doing some scumhunting?

I'm not confident of one... nor have I ever said there might be only one, if you read my post 58

Desp - can you go into anymore detail on your PM without breaking rules?

By implying multiple encryptors, I am assuming multiball scum?

I actually float the idea of more than one, and am following up with questions about it...

Why are you so unwilling to cut of what could be a vital scum advantage of having scum talk? That's why I would be for the encryptor lynch, as it hurts scum long term in not being able to talk during the day and talk as each scanario unfolds.

So if two or three people said "I'm a town encryptor", you'd want them all dead rather than doing scumhunting?

Now you're just putting words in my mouth

Am I scum or misguided town? What did you really mean?
These are things you would have answered if you were town

[SleepyKrew]

@SK phone posting. Walls suck.

Could you spoiler the wall and bold the part you're referencing?

[SleepyKrew]

@skrew i was referring to rvs

not the other 4 pages i haven't been here for so. ok ok ok

signing posts with

[marquis]

Why did you feel the need to explicitly remind the viewers that RVS policy lynches are dumb?

[SleepyKrew]

@SK phone posting. Walls suck.

Could you spoiler the wall and bold the part you're referencing?

Yeah that would be even harder. The problem isn't reading the walls, the problem is posting in the box with the wall code included.

Could you at least say the number and poster of the post you're responding to?

[SleepyKrew]

VOTE: Imperium

They need to die. Don't ask why.

I cannot allow this

<3

Because I give Nacho support ^_^




oh right and also because Tammy!

[SleepyKrew]

@SK 116 - will try

Appreciated muchly!
You're still scum though
But I don't remember why whereas SAD and jason are obvious so carry along

[SleepyKrew]

oh heads up Nacho probably won't be around this day phase at all, so it's just me all on my own.

how do i tell when nacho posts because in we the purple there was a long space of time that i forgot you guys were a hydra

[marquis]

pedit skrew why is every post of yours a question? did you know it really annoys me? and did you know i was referring to sad actually being serious about the policy lynches? so why are you dismissing it as me just making an rvs vote? because wasn't it valid as an rvs-era but not rvs-vote response vote? and did you know i'm annoying myself now too?

pedit2 seriously skrew stop with the whole 100 questions thing this is why we have 5 (6 by the time this finally gets posted??) pages already

Sorry I missed the context on the RVS thing
And this is how I scumhunt. Yes I post a lot. Sorry. I really do try to restrain myself.

[SleepyKrew]

my role pm implies that multiple encryptors might exist,

and if one is alive daytalk is available for all QTs

if you think i should die why bother rvsing sleepy?

The bolded is why killing desp right now isn't helpful. We need to kill all of them to get rid of the effect. Otherwise we're just feeding scum a free lunch.

We've already established this
Anything to contribute? (:

[SleepyKrew]

@SAD 123 - Awww and I was just starting to town read you. You can still be town even though your vote is bad.

dat dissonance

[SleepyKrew]

Oh my

This is a 19p game

The horror.

Were you there at signups?

[SleepyKrew]

ignore the quote it magically appeared

[marquis]

pedit @ sad, scum wouldn't want to lynch the encryptor -> juls wants to lynch the encryptor -> juls is scum ? i....... don't agree??

But apparently everyone is agreeing that there are multiple encrpytors based on something Desp's role PM might maybe be implying!

[SleepyKrew]

oh heads up Nacho probably won't be around this day phase at all, so it's just me all on my own.

how do i tell when nacho posts because in we the purple there was a long space of time that i forgot you guys were a hydra

[marquis]

that's a good thing! I have no idea why, but people mistake me for him when we hydra. We pretty much post nothing alike. Though this is what Nacho had to say to that question in We the Purple!

If every post doesn't ooze an unbelievable amount of obvtowniness, you're probably dealing with N.

N's in there too?!?!

[SleepyKrew]

Yo.

I suppose this could be called an egopost, but briefly checking in to say I'll be on the right account soon and posting and reading.

In the mean time, I kinda assume RVS is over what with six pages and all, but figure I might as well propose a hydra-alliance anyway, with honorary members invited in as we deem appropriate. (For instance, NS, Oversoul, Desperado, Nero Cain, and Slandaar could all be honorary members.)
/be back soonish on the right account.

"RVS is over but here let me say bullshit anyway "
I've seen you make short posts before. You might be banking on your reputation, but I know the truth. The TRUTH

[SleepyKrew]

oh heads up Nacho probably won't be around this day phase at all, so it's just me all on my own.

how do i tell when nacho posts because in we the purple there was a long space of time that i forgot you guys were a hydra

[marquis]

that's a good thing! I have no idea why, but people mistake me for him when we hydra. We pretty much post nothing alike. Though this is what Nacho had to say to that question in We the Purple!

If every post doesn't ooze an unbelievable amount of obvtowniness, you're probably dealing with N.

N's in there too?!?!

No, he was just using his initial.

That Nacho sure is a tricky fellow...

[SleepyKrew]

Okay early town reads on desperado, arthur and Jason.

ALCOHOL IS ALSO EVIL!

I think you might still be 2/3 drunk

[SleepyKrew]

hi son!

long time no see!

How can I be sure you're really mollie

[SleepyKrew]

also i somehow forgot to add this but

in mean girls mafia vezok was a cop and he said his role pm implied there were no millers in the setup, because someone else claimed miller. and he was wrong because they actually were a miller (technically they were a bulletproof miller which the claim completely made the bulletproof part of pointless but w/e w/e).

basically i think when you try to get setup information from a single role pm's wording it's more often than not wrong or at the very least simply unreliable so just because the mod picks a quirky wording doesn't mean really anything

[marquis]

pedit so that's a hydra i've never seen yay wow amaze wow

You are saying a lot of truth. I like you. And your avatar .

[SleepyKrew]

hi son!

long time no see!

How can I be sure you're really mollie

does anti have paternal feeling towards you I dunno

oh congrats on the sex change!

[SleepyKrew]

(completely relevant: is Tammy my sister or aunt? I can never remember)

[SleepyKrew]

I think I need to head to post-procedure snoozelands before I get insomnia from the steroids
See yall then

[SleepyKrew]

oh damn
Good thing I'm not getting any sleep overnight

[SleepyKrew]

Proper stuff when I'm on my laptop
But for now, I am once again down with a Juls lynch
And Feu et Vol needs to fucking keep their hydra chat out of the thread

[SleepyKrew]

Still not on laptop yet
Not liking helium's Juls stuff.

[SleepyKrew]

Proper stuff when I'm on my laptop
But for now, I am once again down with a Juls lynch
And Feu et Vol needs to fucking keep their hydra chat out of the thread

OH MY FUCKING GOD...who the fuck is titus? I literally hate this game right now.

Seriously, @Hoopla, please tell this person that I am not some person named Titus. You are probably the only person who knows me before recently.

Now I am really going to bed.

This kinda sounds like town frustration.

help me out here plz.

cos why would you start a hydra to play with your husband before hydras were a thing and then not understand anything about hydras?

that is what is baking my noodle.

eta: mastina why do you have to be scum.

there's no way this is real

[SleepyKrew]

OKAY CATCHUP THING

[SleepyKrew]

Going to do several posts because huge big catchup walls are terrible

Juls post!

unvote, vote: desp

Taking one for the team. Good on you.

Notice my wording....

Claim: Town Neighborizor

I decided that yeah I could take one for the team and not have day talk.

I am well aware of the methods of day talk SAD.

Another crumb...

I don't believe this. I doubt you're lying about being a neighborizer, but I don't believe that you intended on crumbing. If you were town and planned on crumbing, I don't think you'd have waited to crumb until someone claimed Encryptor.
Which means scum Juls --> town Desp
Which sounds right

A few questions about that... you have daytalk currently? How long do the neighborhoods you make last (just the next day/night, the whole game, one single neighborhood that you allow access to so multiple people can post in it)?

My role PM doesn't specify when I can talk but I asked Zach and he said I can talk until he tells me otherwise.

The reason I claimed is because I knew the way I changed my mind looked bad from the outside. So I figured I would be lynched if I didn't explain my reasoning and I couldn't explain my reasoning without claiming. I guess I just didn't put as much faith in neighbors as I do masons. When I was suggesting giving up day talk I wasn't thinking about there being masons.

only answers part of it
Oversoul doesn't care that Juls ignored important stuff
Not a genuine line of questioning by Oversoul

So, I'm going to lose interest in this game real fast if you guys keep chatting about games other than this one. I'm not in the cool kids club which makes for a really boring read.

Then try to generate discussion yourself... owait scum


Also Juls has just felt AtE-y to me. I believe her hydra frustration, and especially with helium derping, is genuine. I also don't think it's alignment-indicative.

[SleepyKrew]

(waiting on a VC)

[SleepyKrew]

darn there's more Juls stuff in here

Thank you Sleepy.

?

Was Juls really in lynch territory?

Not really but it was relevant.

Uhhh. What

Uhhh. What

Juls are you town

Juls are you town

Yes.

what the hell is this

indefinate v/la

replace out


helium's argument with SAD about the accidental quote is stupid
helium's argument with Juls about hydrae is stupid
helium is the one being dumb in both

So if two or three people said "I'm a town encryptor", you'd want them all dead rather than doing scumhunting?

Some of them would need to die until the scum one is dead.
Is that not obvious?

I was pretty clearly talking to jason, and that pretty clearly isn't what he was saying, and you're pretty clearly speaking on his behalf

@SAD 123 - Awww and I was just starting to town read you. You can still be town even though your vote is bad.

dat dissonance

Explain please.

"I was just starting to town read you" implies rescinding the town read. Contradiction with second sentence.

You've taken on a very Faraday-esque style of posting. So I am basically playing with the Speakeasy Popularity winner. *blushes*

13th isn't good enough for you?
but I am a Faraday alt so it's okay

I don't want to fight with you either.

family hug!


speedy saki or whatever is just fucking awful

[SleepyKrew]

I'm seriously thinking about replacing out. Everyone seems to know the heads of the hydras and it's all very confusing to me. I have to keep looking at the main post. Like who the hell is pie? And talking about the other head of your hydras is making me confused too.

Don't replace out

I'll do a cheat sheet for you.

Fue et Vol = BeastCharizard (the avatar) and Marquis (where the french comes from)
Speedy Saki = Sonic (fast) and Saki (Saki)
Helium 3 = I got nothing for you. Mollie is a girl, so thats where the purple is? Antihero is a chemistry student so thats where the name comes from?
Imperium = Two Ms in Tammy and iMperiuM, Nacho is an Imp
Perpetual Nonsense = Bert (Perpetual) SXYGHTLGAIDEN (Nonsense, I mean look at that name)
Sukogo Sugoi = Pieguyn is Asian and this an Asian ass name. F16 is a jet in the sky, avatar is of the sky
Slice of Life = I really can't even begin to make something up for lol

/carsalesman pitch

I think Over has done far slimier things

I feel like this setup is a trap.

?

goddamn it

UNVOTE:

wth

Helium makes your voice funny

VIG


helium has been bullshit-central this game

VOTE: Slandaar

Town.

SAD's probscum.

VOTE: Slandaar
Go, speed wagon... go, go!

So's jason.

what
the
fuck

Okay early town reads on desperado, arthur and Jason.

ALCOHOL IS ALSO EVIL!

I think you might still be 2/3 drunk

Kinda scary how in-line Sleepy is with my thoughts.
Calling town.

but they aren't in-line?

okay I have had a breather

(breather as in inhaled a bunch of cigarettes)

I don't know what to make of julz except I think she is scummy or town. does this confuse any1? it does me too.

julztown: I know what is like to feel left out cos sometimes I feel that way too. I also don't know what to do when some1 meltsdown in the way that she did.

julzscum: she said the account was supposed to be a hydra with her husband but doesn't get basic hydra play. she says she barely knows any1 but appeals to players to vindicate her not being titus.

like I am srsly at a loss here.

so as a good hydra partner I am leaving this to anti cos he can probs sort it out better than I can right now.

I am going to go inhale more cigarettes and hopefully go to bed.

eta: goddammit mastina is scum

mollie you are not this dense

Okay early town reads on desperado, arthur and Jason.

ALCOHOL IS ALSO EVIL!

I think you might still be 2/3 drunk

Kinda scary how in-line Sleepy is with my thoughts.
Calling town.

Which 2/3rds do you agree with?

Jason? Who you said was town a few posts ago?

des? Who you said was town a few posts ago?

Okay SAD, but how is Skrew's thoughts inline with yours if they're not actually in line with yours?

dammit Tammy I wanted to say it

OH MY FUCKING GOD...who the fuck is titus? I literally hate this game right now.

Seriously, @Hoopla, please tell this person that I am not some person named Titus. You are probably the only person who knows me before recently.

Now I am really going to bed.

This kinda sounds like town frustration.

or just general frustration

OH MY FUCKING GOD...who the fuck is titus? I literally hate this game right now.

Seriously, @Hoopla, please tell this person that I am not some person named Titus. You are probably the only person who knows me before recently.

Now I am really going to bed.

This kinda sounds like town frustration.

help me out here plz.

cos why would you start a hydra to play with your husband before hydras were a thing and then not understand anything about hydras?

that is what is baking my noodle.

eta: mastina why do you have to be scum.

oh my golly

I'll buy it if others do, but my gutread on SAD is still scum.

ALARMS BELLS

dammit Tammy stop saying the things that I want to say

8. Desperado
9. Perpetual Nonsense (Bert + SXTLHGaiden)
15. Feu et Vol (beastcharizard + Marquis)
7. helium-3 (Antihero + Pirate Mollie)
12. Imperium (Nachomamma8 + Tammy)
11. Sugoku Sugoi (F-16_Fighting_Falcon + pieguyn)
16. SleepyKrew
14. Hoopla
5. Speedy Saki (Metal Sonic + Saki)
1. JasonT1981
10. Juls
2. SaintKerrigan
3. Slandaar
17. Ser Arthur Dayne
13. Oversoul
6. Not_Mafia

4. Nero Cain
18. Nobody Special

Something like this.

no one asked for this
don't do this
it's just a bunch of names and no reasons
(I am not asking for a full readlists with reasons either oh god)

[SleepyKrew]

I am about to crash. I'll probably finish catching up tomorrow.

[SleepyKrew]

Hoopla, what do you make of Desp's encryptor claim and subsequent action.

I dunno. Feels like some weird setup shenanigans going on, so I'm inclined to leave the claims be, and work them out later.

I feel overwhelmed by this game already. Who is town? I'm basically willing to sheep someone and vote with them until I have any real opinions of my own. Someone speak up.

Desp is probably the most obvtown person IMO
Feu et Vol is pretty towny too

[SleepyKrew]

When you say you believe Juls's claim, you believe she's a neighborizer or specifically a town neighborizer?

[SleepyKrew]

hmm

[SleepyKrew]

Juls, why did you feel the need to crumb the reasoning for a vote, and why did you claim when you did?

[SleepyKrew]

I am quite far behind.

Sleepy I understand that the first post of the game was quite a while ago now but you really shouldn't be forgetting what you wrote.

I still think they should be vigged
But not worth a lynch

[SleepyKrew]

And why are you resigned to your lynch now?

[SleepyKrew]

And why are you resigned to your lynch now?

Do you see a counter wagon?

Why aren't you trying to make one?
Eh whatever

[SleepyKrew]

I still lean town on Juls by the timing of her claim and because I don't see how this Hydra talk stuff is alignment indicative so I feel like she's just being backed in to a corner over nothing

I don't think anyone besides helium is attacking her for that

[SleepyKrew]

(and helium is being a total dumb dumb)

[SleepyKrew]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Juls

[SleepyKrew]

And why are you resigned to your lynch now?

Do you see a counter wagon?

Why aren't you trying to make one?
Eh whatever

I'm voting helium and stating my case. Other than thinking helium is a dumb dumb, do you not see it as opportunistic?

I don't think they were being opportunistic?

[SleepyKrew]

OK. So they jumped on my wagon based not on my screw up surrounding the encryptor claim but because I have a hydra account. Then when they get called on the carpet for it they unvote because I implore the town to lynch them when I flip town. And then immediately start calling me town. Yeah, if they aren't scum I probably need to not play mafia anymore. Promise me when I flip town you will lynch them?

I'll definitely look at them again later but I don't think your wagon was big enough for them to be opportunistic. The backpedal, I'm still trying to wrap my head around.

[SleepyKrew]

Ummmm guys
I think SAD scumslipped
But no one else has commented on it so....
I'll look at it some more when I get on my laptop along with addressing othet pertinent things

[SleepyKrew]

If you're referring to my apparent knowledge of the game being multi-ball I'm assuming in case it was, they're likely scum together.

Who is they?
No it's wrt the fakevig
AURA OF MYSTERY

[SleepyKrew]

That seems null to me unless someone tells me that's something townSAD would NEVER say/do
Tammy is that something townSAD would NEVER say/do?

[SleepyKrew]

That's a scum response.

Juls is likely town.

you're so scum

set a cheap, shit "trap" and don't even explain your read from it.

Whattt??

Why would you think I would dayvig you is beyond me? This bit is just included to make it look like a town response:

on the off-chance it's real, don't lynch Juls.

sheep mastin. lynch not_mafia and oversoul.

I wasn't even interested in your response rather than Juls (and if you're town it should've been blatantly obvious) but ty for responding with a scum response ily <3 <3

Still not on laptop but I don't want to delay so I'll save the rest for later and just focus on the SAD maybeslip
See I had alarm bells go off when he said he didn't expect helium you think it was real. Upon rereading, the gambit was aimed at Juls (dumb thing to do), so I want to know why helium would know it was fake but Juls would fall from it?

[SleepyKrew]

...how does multiple Encryptors indicate multiball?
Also please don't go back to trying to speculate based on something his PM might maybe be implying. Try to do something worthwhile with your time until we get to your lynch. Or don't say anything. But you attempting to muddy the waters with worthless nothings is noted and not appreciated.
(this was all at jason)

[SleepyKrew]

...how does multiple Encryptors indicate multiball?
Also please don't go back to trying to speculate based on something his PM might maybe be implying. Try to do something worthwhile with your time until we get to your lynch. Or don't say anything. But you attempting to muddy the waters with worthless nothings is noted and not appreciated.
(this was all at jason)

Don't answer the first line. Ponder it. Don't respond.

[SleepyKrew]

See I had alarm bells go off when he said he didn't expect helium you think it was real. Upon rereading, the gambit was aimed at Juls (dumb thing to do), so I want to know why helium would know it was fake but Juls would fall from it?

...Because I expected a) mollie to be more familiar with my general playstyle and b) Juls having been away from mafia for a longish time period?

Even though mollie is gone and it's just Antihero for now?
(or was mollie still here?)

[SleepyKrew]

@SAD, SKrew:[/post] what are your thoughts on not_mafia?

think we could go for a not_mafia wagon?

I've been meaning to pay more attention to him. I think a big thing about him that no one has mentioned yet is he dropped his vote/case on me without me ever responding to or even acknowledging him. I will look more at him (guess when?) when I'm on my laptop. Not really interested in lynching him today though unless something BIG pops up.

[SleepyKrew]

who are you interested in lynching?

and I don't think I get the scumslip re: SAD. can you explain it again plz

It's not as damning as I thought it was. I'm gonna talk to SAD for a bit about.
Right now I want Juls or jason lynched, probably also SAD. There are a couple other scumfucks I want to talk to more and obviously some people that I want vigged hard

[SleepyKrew]

Tammy is that something townSAD would NEVER say/do?

Pointless question about meta.

Or relevant to me at the time because I thought I had 100% caught SAD and definitive meta was the only thing that could get him out of it
But I didn't sooo

[SleepyKrew]

indefinate v/la

@mod
This Nero Cain's only post, and it is from over 24 hours ago. What are you doing with regards to this slot?

[SleepyKrew]

It's not as damning as I thought it was. I'm gonna talk to SAD for a bit about.
Right now I want Juls or jason lynched, probably also SAD. There are a couple other scumfucks I want to talk to more and obviously some people that I want vigged hard

why is Jason scum?

what do you think of Juls' helium push? that's the main thing making me think she might be town atm (and the way she blew up earlier, but I remember you said you think that's null)

jason stuff later
I'll look at the helium push again too

actually the more I read the way Juls early claimed, the more I think it's prob town

whenever I'm a PR and I have a wagon on me, I always feel like early claiming. bc I hate hate hate when town wastes a bunch of time pushing me, when I'm going to end up claiming PR anyway - it's a bunch of time spent accomplishing nothing.

this is rly important bc in this game, we only get 5 days at most and we absolutely need all the time we can get - so I think the way she claimed makes a shitton of sense coming from that mindset

it's heavily WIFOM, but it's not smth I've ever seen scum fake. I'd like to hear thoughts on this

iirc she only had two votes on her, and only claimed so she could justify her bad Desp vote with bad justification

[SleepyKrew]

also I don't think Juls cares about the bind we're in deadline-wise
See: her thinking about (threatening to?) replacing out

[SleepyKrew]

It took you less than a minute to go through his ISO?

[SleepyKrew]

Okay so I can probably go for a not_mafia wagon right now since his posts read as sidelining too much, and honestly his juls jump looks lazy. Pressure there would be p nice.

Vote: not_mafia

Thanks for avoiding me and thanks for saying it's just for pressure

[SleepyKrew]

Yes I am 100% okay with a SAD lynch

[SleepyKrew]

see I think that if Jason were scum he'd totally be pushing on Arthur as that would be easy for him to do. I *guess* if one is scum the other could be but I'm leaning town on both right now, so.

Arthur - What are your thoughts on Jason?

Is he really that predictable?

[SleepyKrew]

Tammy is that something townSAD would NEVER say/do?

Pointless question about meta.

Or relevant to me at the time because I thought I had 100% caught SAD and definitive meta was the only thing that could get him out of it
But I didn't sooo

lol actually this wasn't about the "slip"

That seems null to me unless someone tells me that's something townSAD would NEVER say/do
Tammy is that something townSAD would NEVER say/do?

I'm not sure what you're referring to?

But, there's not a whole lot that SAD!Town wouldn't do. There's also not a whole lot that SAD!Scum wouldn't do.

Arthur is best read on tone. He's also best read in relation to the rest of the game. He gets scum read A LOT and is somewhat of an easy mislynch at times. I'm not going to go into too much detail about how I read him, I mean he's probably pretty aware, but I'd rather see how things develop without me saying what he should and shouldn't be doing.

(waffles is being adorable tonight though just so you know!)

I think I was talking about his multiball thing
(more adorable than usual?!)

[SleepyKrew]

Pictures!

[SleepyKrew]

Unfortunately I need to sleep and then go be social tomorrow
After that, I will return and resume doing whatever it is I was doing
On one condition: there are pictures of Waffles when I get back

[SleepyKrew]

SAD's tone is different than his tone in 169 so far...

Not what I meant but I'll enjoy it anyway

[SleepyKrew]

WHY AM I AWAKE

[SleepyKrew]

okay someone asked me why jason is scum but I doubt he will be today's lynch so I'd rather not add that noise (it's probably in my ISO somewhere)


seriously why does Speedy Saki exist

Pictures!

picture

ALL OF MY <3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3


Oversoul, is everything alright? You seemed to flip out a *little bit* disproportionately

It isn't rage quit from the game. It is rage quit from YOU.

Jesus Christ.

Fucking lynch me I don't care.

:/


Desp, if you think you're more valuable dead than alive, how come you aren't pushing the self-lynch (and didn't push it very hard?)?

nobody special lean scum

umm what

Yes I post a lot. Sorry. I really do try to restrain myself.

Try harder. You're part of the reason I'm still not caught up yet.

I don't even know how to respond to this in a way that isn't an insult I might get in trouble for

Yes I post a lot. Sorry. I really do try to restrain myself.

Try harder. You're part of the reason I'm still not caught up yet.

that's not the face I'm making but it's better than nothing



Going to try to read stuff about Not_Mafia and then await a VC. I could maybe see my vote going there but I'd still prefer Juls or SAD (as I said I don't think there's time for a jason lynch)
Please let me know if I missed anything

[SleepyKrew]

yeah nothing about Not_Mafia impresses me and then there's still his "push" on me (tbh that's the thing of his I've paid the most attention to and my eyes are somewhat glazing over right now)
need a VC

[SleepyKrew]

oh I already mentioned needing a VC lol
hey guess what this post is completely unnecessary
and it's just for you, NS

[SleepyKrew]

keeping my vote on Juls atm

[SleepyKrew]

...how does multiple Encryptors indicate multiball?
Also please don't go back to trying to speculate based on something his PM might maybe be implying. Try to do something worthwhile with your time until we get to your lynch. Or don't say anything. But you attempting to muddy the waters with worthless nothings is noted and not appreciated.
(this was all at jason)

For the 2nd time, you are AGAIN putting words in my mouth.... I didn't say there was however,I speculated there might be

yes and I yelled at you for your useless speculation
I even used the word speculate

in the post you quoted

[SleepyKrew]

...how does multiple Encryptors indicate multiball?
Also please don't go back to trying to speculate based on something his PM might maybe be implying. Try to do something worthwhile with your time until we get to your lynch. Or don't say anything. But you attempting to muddy the waters with worthless nothings is noted and not appreciated.
(this was all at jason)

For the 2nd time, you are AGAIN putting words in my mouth.... I didn't say there was however,I speculated there might be

yes and I yelled at you for your useless speculation
I even used the word speculate

in the post you quoted

Why is it useless to consider, or at least mention a possible situation

it's been mentioned
Now do something useful

[SleepyKrew]

Sure, give your reasons why I am scum, then I'll do something 'useful'

Or you could be proactive

[SleepyKrew]

Juls don't you dare try to strategically replace out
Also am I the only person that actually agrees with her about helium's dissonance defense being shit? It's more of a theory thing for me. Like, mollie's posts from her main and then asking anti to quote them are really pissing me off. But I guess I should save that for postgame.
Nap time!

[SleepyKrew]

you risk looking like a retard for the rest of the game, js

You can just go fuck off you goddamn pair of useless pricks



I'm glad we're all huggy happy feely now. Or at least maybe until helium posts again. There will be postgame WORDS.
jason doing scum things etc

[SleepyKrew]

I kind of think that Tammy agreeing not to argue being indicative of her being town is bullshit? Like, that's a personal issue between you two that isn't game-related.

[SleepyKrew]

There have been several alt slips where hydras have been posting on their main accidentally. Let's try to keep that to a minimum please.

Well apparently mollie can't get the password from anti

I kind of think that Tammy agreeing not to argue being indicative of her being town is bullshit? Like, that's a personal issue between you two that isn't game-related.

@mollie head of helium

[SleepyKrew]

i call your bluff.

as i said, if i get shot by a vig its only the vig's fault. they have more to lose than i do.

Seriously, why the fuck are you even here? Please replace out. Hell, give Juls your slot so she could teach a class about the differences between a hydra and two separate players.

[SleepyKrew]

Oi pieces of shit
Be less fucking shitty

[SleepyKrew]

Before we wind up with entire pages of Saki insults, can we all just agree that Saki is playing the ditz and leave it at that?

I
Ugh you're right aren't you
Sorry guys
But their shittiness, and especially post 963, just made me see red
Goddamn bloody stool. You should get that checked out.

[SleepyKrew]

The fact that SS can get away with this shit is everything that's wrong with the current meta

[SleepyKrew]

so is this damning evidence against Not_Mafia not as damning as I was led to believe?
Dammit I'm going to have to check myself, aren't I

fuck you SS etc

[SleepyKrew]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p5948702

I was referring specifically to Sugoki's new thing

[SleepyKrew]

wow these last posts have been fucked up

[SleepyKrew]

None of my posts afterwards have been on daytalk, I can't exactly retroactively change discussion. And the times I was able to be active it was largely Helum and Juls tiff and I had no interest in wading in to a screaming match.

this is bullshit. helium vs. Juls didn't happen until after those 4 posts.

and that doesn't have anything to do with my point. there was nothing stopping you from forming and developing more reads, as opposed to talking about daytalk all the time, especially given the bolded. all I get from your ISO are a few reads that don't have much to them - if you weren't interested in daytalk discussion, I'd expect your effort to be focused on developing your reads further as opposed to making comments about daytalk.

also, you say this, but you ended up wading into it anyway when you offered opinions on, and voted, both of them down the road. hardly ggs

[

It reminded me of another interaction we had (me and Antihero) in another game

exactly what interaction are you talking about and what interaction did it remind you of?

also I don't see how that has anything to do with my point. the point was you had a TOWNREAD on Juls and then out of nowhere you retracted it and chose to take Juls' side in Juls vs. mollie. given you had a townread on her before, it read as you trying to take full advantage of that massive shitstorm by trying to jump on either of their wagons. (and on top of that this also discounts whatever interaction you brought up, unless I'm missing smth)

now I need LOTS more votes on not_mafia, and I want everyone who hasn't yet to give their thoughts on my not_mafia case and how he keeps contradicting himself.

or you can just look at this:

None of my posts afterwards have been on daytalk, I can't exactly retroactively change discussion. And the times I was able to be active it was largely Helum and Juls tiff and I had no interest in wading in to a screaming match.

this is bullshit. helium vs. Juls didn't happen until after those 4 posts.

tl;dr: he brought up Juls vs. helium as a reason for him to not post anything besides his comments on daytalk, when it didn't even happen till after the post I called him on.

all you ppl who are pushing SS as a counterwagon can suck it ~

for my own convenience and that of others

[SleepyKrew]

wait Sugoku
I don't think the thing you bolded wrt Not_Mafia is that big a deal
Am I missing something?

[SleepyKrew]

Yeah I wanna see Not_Mafia's response

[SleepyKrew]

I kind of think that Tammy agreeing not to argue being indicative of her being town is bullshit? Like, that's a personal issue between you two that isn't game-related.

Tammy, thoughts?

[SleepyKrew]

I kind of think that Tammy agreeing not to argue being indicative of her being town is bullshit? Like, that's a personal issue between you two that isn't game-related.

But it is kinda game-related? Mollie and I have never fought outside of a game, but in the last game we played in together, when we were both town, fought the entire game. It was a humongous distraction. I thought she was scum for her response to me, and she thought I was scum for the way I asked her a question. Like it wasn't pretty and what started

in game

extended out of game so much so that Nacho told me it started a rift he doesn't think can be fixed.

I don't exactly get why you're questioning it in the way you are? No, me agreeing not to argue doesn't make me town. Me being town makes me town, and those who have played with me can pretty much distinguish the tone that makes me town and makes me not. If I were scum, I'd probably still say I didn't want to fight, but I'm sure my response would have been a little different. It wouldn't have been what I gave. There's a reason my mindset is pretty obvious to anyone's who's played with me.

So, you're oversimplying it, and unless you have serious concerns about either of our alignments I have no idea why you're trying to instigate anything.

I'm not trying to instigate anything.

If I were scum, I'd probably still say I didn't want to fight, but I'm sure my response would have been a little different. It wouldn't have been what I gave. There's a reason my mindset is pretty obvious to anyone's who's played with me.

This is good enough for me for now. I haven't played with you before so sorry that I'm not seeing the Tammyobvtown.

[SleepyKrew]

haven't played with you before so sorry that I'm not seeing the Tammyobvtown.

i shrug at you, but waffles hisses.

hiss of love <3

[SleepyKrew]

Like seriously can I not win?

I think you're town and that's awful but if I wasn't reading you as town I'd be awful to. Should I just not mention you at all?

wut
where did this victimization come from

[SleepyKrew]

Like seriously can I not win?

I think you're town and that's awful but if I wasn't reading you as town I'd be awful to. Should I just not mention you at all?

wut
where did this victimization come from

Can you pretend to act like town sleepy?

I seriously want that answered because it seemed really out of place

[SleepyKrew]

Like seriously can I not win?

I think you're town and that's awful but if I wasn't reading you as town I'd be awful to. Should I just not mention you at all?

wut
where did this victimization come from

Can you pretend to act like town sleepy?

I seriously want that answered because it seemed really out of place

Please stop trying to instigate stuff.

Holy shit what are you hiding
It's called being proactive/scumhunting. The only thing I've come close to instigating this game was a fight with SS.

[SleepyKrew]

VOTE: not_mafia

because pieguy and oversoul

eta: suck it SK

psa:jason t is pretty scummy

I have that much influence on you despite being mostly a pariah this game?

sleepy

babycakes, how come this didn't register to you as victimization or whatever crap you're pulling on me?

serious question is really really serious.

because I've already taken note of Oversoul's slimeyness, but more importantly, that has nothing to do with what I'm asking you

[SleepyKrew]

victimization or whatever crap you're pulling on me?

Like seriously can I not win?

I think you're town and that's awful but if I wasn't reading you as town I'd be awful to. Should I just not mention you at all?

Tell me that's not victimization

[SleepyKrew]

Okay I'll play along with this little game for a bit longer
@Imperium
Specifically at Tammy,

Like seriously can I not win?

I think you're town and that's awful but if I wasn't reading you as town I'd be awful to. Should I just not mention you at all?

Where does this post come from? Suddenly you're on the defensive despite not being attacked.
And then if you actually answer this, we can move on to my sudden penchant for "instigating" as well as your sudden penchant for deflecting.

[SleepyKrew]

Okay I'll play along with this little game for a bit longer
@Imperium
Specifically at Tammy,

Like seriously can I not win?

I think you're town and that's awful but if I wasn't reading you as town I'd be awful to. Should I just not mention you at all?

Where does this post come from? Suddenly you're on the defensive despite not being attacked.
And then if you actually answer this, we can move on to my sudden penchant for "instigating" as well as your sudden penchant for deflecting.

Falcon and I just finished a game where I was super paranoid of him all game and he was frustrated I wasn't town reading him when I should have been. (And I should have been, my paranoia was stupid, but that game was very tense.)

Here, I go from he's possible town to oh yeah they're strong town and it felt like I was being questioned on why I would town read him after I just got a heap of crap for not town reading him. I felt like I was damned if I do damned if I don't.

What post was it that made you feel like you were being questioned here? The one where they asked which head of the hydra was the one that gave you your read?

[SleepyKrew]

And considering you got into the middle of a conversation, that he would have completely understand where I was coming from, with ohmygods victimization, when it's nothing like that, and you couldn't be fucked to see how

he would answer that

looks fucking terrible.

Rephrase please?

[SleepyKrew]

Okay I'll play along with this little game for a bit longer
@Imperium
Specifically at Tammy,

Like seriously can I not win?

I think you're town and that's awful but if I wasn't reading you as town I'd be awful to. Should I just not mention you at all?

Where does this post come from? Suddenly you're on the defensive despite not being attacked.
And then if you actually answer this, we can move on to my sudden penchant for "instigating" as well as your sudden penchant for deflecting.

Falcon and I just finished a game where I was super paranoid of him all game and he was frustrated I wasn't town reading him when I should have been. (And I should have been, my paranoia was stupid, but that game was very tense.)

Here, I go from he's possible town to oh yeah they're strong town and it felt like I was being questioned on why I would town read him after I just got a heap of crap for not town reading him. I felt like I was damned if I do damned if I don't.

What post was it that made you feel like you were being questioned here? The one where they asked which head of the hydra was the one that gave you your read?

YEP!

Okay, I guess I'll read his meta in the Wire more closely to solidify a read there. Curious about your strong townread, was it my posts or Pie's?

Not how I'd interpret it but I guess I can see it from your perspective
Now I need to doublecheck to see if your deflections are worth pursuing

[SleepyKrew]

And considering you got into the middle of a conversation, that he would have completely understand where I was coming from, with ohmygods victimization, when it's nothing like that, and you couldn't be fucked to see how

he would answer that

looks fucking terrible.

Rephrase please?

you butted into the middle of a conversation with your bullshit ass vicitimization crap where falcon would have known exactly the context of that question i asked him, when it's nothing like victimization, but you trying to instigate something for your own purposes before you could see how *he* would respond to my question, and I don't think that looks like a town interjection at all.

I'm sorry I thought we were being civil now?
Yeah I "butted in" because I didn't know the context, and I'm sure others didn't either, and falcon replying to you would not have provided us with the context.

[SleepyKrew]

Who are your scum reads sleepy?

strongest are Juls, jason, and SAD

[SleepyKrew]

And considering you got into the middle of a conversation, that he would have completely understand where I was coming from, with ohmygods victimization, when it's nothing like that, and you couldn't be fucked to see how

he would answer that

looks fucking terrible.

Rephrase please?

you butted into the middle of a conversation with your bullshit ass vicitimization crap where falcon would have known exactly the context of that question i asked him, when it's nothing like victimization, but you trying to instigate something for your own purposes before you could see how *he* would respond to my question, and I don't think that looks like a town interjection at all.

I'm sorry I thought we were being civil now?
Yeah I "butted in" because I didn't know the context, and I'm sure others didn't either, and falcon replying to you would not have provided us with the context.

asking me a question would have been one thing, you accused me of the most bullshit thing you could have. Because you, again, tried to instigate things. The first time you did it was to tell mollie her town read of me was bullshit after she explained part of the context. This time was to accuse me of playing the victim without having a clue what I was referring to.

Town doesn't act like that.

This is such a complete misrepresentation of my actions that I am rendered nearly speechless

[SleepyKrew]

yeah I don't think there's enough time to deal with you today, Tammy

[SleepyKrew]

I kind of think that Tammy agreeing not to argue being indicative of her being town is bullshit? Like, that's a personal issue between you two that isn't game-related.

Tammy, thoughts?

Why did you ask me to give you thoughts on this?

In case my interpretation of the situation was incorrect, which as you demonstrated, it was.

[SleepyKrew]

I kind of think that Tammy agreeing not to argue being indicative of her being town is bullshit? Like, that's a personal issue between you two that isn't game-related.

Tammy, thoughts?

Why did you ask me to give you thoughts on this?

In case my interpretation of the situation was incorrect, which as you demonstrated, it was.

I mean, it was to INSTIGATE
because that's what I do

[SleepyKrew]

You didn't have context. You didn't know that previously I got shit for not explicitly town reading him and immediately claimed it was something it wasn't.

You're right. I was missing context and had no way of knowing that I was missing context.

You didn't ask me a question.

Except I clearly did

then don't claim I'm misrepresenting you when I say you're instigating stuff when it's what you do!

[SleepyKrew]

VOTE: not_mafia

because pieguy and oversoul

eta: suck it SK

psa:jason t is pretty scummy

I have that much influence on you despite being mostly a pariah this game?

sleepy

babycakes, how come this didn't register to you as victimization or whatever crap you're pulling on me?

serious question is really really serious.

because I've already taken note of Oversoul's slimeyness, but more importantly, that has nothing to do with what I'm asking you

actually it totally does because in the realm of playing the victim someone claiming to be a pariah this game, when I'm not sure where he's getting that, and early claiming that someone doesn't like him, is more along the lines of your victim tell than someone thinking no matter what read they give someone is going to be unsatisfying.

I think him calling himself a pariah in this game wasn't that inaccurate
I thought your reaction to falcon did not make sense. Now that I have context, it does. This is all about perspective Tammy.

[SleepyKrew]

victimization or whatever crap you're pulling on me?

Like seriously can I not win?

I think you're town and that's awful but if I wasn't reading you as town I'd be awful to. Should I just not mention you at all?

Tell me that's not victimization

NOPE.

but what would it mean for my alignment if you did think that? because unless you think i'm scum for some erroneous victimization tell, then you're trying to start stuff for the purpose of starting stuff, which is not town.

yeah I think I've mentioned a couple of times that I'm not sure how this impacts my read of you and that I don't feel like sorting that out at the moment
Something caught my attention and I brought it up. It's called

INSTIGATING

trying to proactively scumhunt.

[SleepyKrew]

I think him calling himself a pariah in this game wasn't that inaccurate
I thought your reaction to falcon did not make sense. Now that I have context, it does. This is all about perspective Tammy.

Yeah but asking me about context is one thing. Asking me why I would have responded to Falcon's question the way I did would be asking me a question. Accusing me of victimization isn't asking that. It's immediately trying to paint my question and response in a particular light. It was a similar thing you did with the Mollie interaction. You didn't try to understand it; you tried to discredit it. That's not scumhunting or being proactive, that's discrediting and trying to create a rift that I think has been made obvious exists and that both of us are trying to work through and together in this game, so I don't understand why a town you would try to crater that.

I'm sorry from now on I will type out "Wow golly this seems like victimization to me! But I can't be sure. There might be context I'm missing, after all." and "Wow golly this seems like bullshit to me! But I can't be sure. I've never played with Tammy, after all."
I'm operating under the assumption that if one of my assumptions (lack of context wrt falcon, not having played with you wrt mollie) is wrong, someone will correct it. Am I wrong to assume so?

[SleepyKrew]

Who are your scum reads sleepy?

strongest are Juls, jason, and SAD

these are town reads of mine to various degrees.

Juls reaction today didn't soften your scum read at all?

why on jason and SAD?

Juls's reaction besides hydra stuff? Because hydra stuff is thoroughly alignment-irrelevant.
jason and SAD because of their scumpostings
As I've said I'm not gonna make a case when I don't think the lynch is viable

[SleepyKrew]

yeah I think I've mentioned a couple of times that I'm not sure how this impacts my read of you and that I don't feel like sorting that out at the moment
Something caught my attention and I brought it up. It's called

INSTIGATING

trying to proactively scumhunt.

did you even have a read on me prior to that?

does null count?

[SleepyKrew]

I didn't say that and I think you know I didn't say that. I think that if it's abundantly obvious that people have played together, and have because we've been referencing recently ended games as part of our discussions, that maybe there's context and not one of us is going to misrepresent our experiences purposefully because we're going to get called out on that. For instance, mollie and I arent' the only ones here who played in the game that wasn't pleasant for either of us, and falcon and I aren't the only ones who played together in the game where I got crap for not town reading him. Mollie even told you we were fighting before she even reached out to me and we started talking, so I'm not sure how you think it would be something that could possibly be made up that you would need my verification on when she talked about a pretty painful game that ended recently.

I'm well aware that you two were fighting. I never said it was made up (where did I say it was made up?). I was specifically calling out mollie saying you agreeing not to fight as being game-relevant to her read of you because the fight was an out-of-game thing.

Me feeling like I could not win if I gave someone a town read or a scum read shouldn't not no not even a little fraction of a tiny bit scream victimization to you and for you to automatically jump to some weird ass conclusion of that sort. If it doesn't have place in this game, like I obviously hadn't called him scum so gee golly willickers couldn't reference here then maybe you should just ask where I'm coming from without trying to paint it with your fakeobrush. I'd have gladly told you *why* I was feeling like i couldn't call him town or scum if you had asked that but you didn't. You went oh geeze wow googley eyes this is victimization, and then you dare to act surprised as my offense. come now sleepy. you know what you were doing.

You're not even trying to see this from my point of view, are you? Well, I already knew that. But now you're not even reading my explanations.

null does count, thank you for thinking I'm null.

Any time! Except when you're being obvscum

OH sleepy krew - what are your thoughts on Hoopla and Saint Kerrigan?

Hoopla is an enigma that I have no clue on. Kerrigan is slightly leaning scum because of the SS push.

[SleepyKrew]

jesus christ
Sorry Tammy and helium (just mollie?), but I'm gonna have to put you on the backburner right now
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Not_Mafia
PSA: any time I said SS in previous posts, I was talking about Shitty Saki
Kerrigan are you going to deliver those reads
Speaking of reads, I think Tammy asked me to explain my top scumreads and I said I'm not making a case right now and she said she doesn't want a case just an explanation? A case is how I explain my top scumreads sorry

[SleepyKrew]

I think that's 6 votes
L-4

[SleepyKrew]

Errr maybe 5 and 5

[SleepyKrew]

Oh look helium made a post and it

wasn't

explaining that vote on me. So are you going to actually push my lynch or just sit there until deadline?

[SleepyKrew]

Oh look helium made a post and it

wasn't

explaining that vote on me. So are you going to actually push my lynch or just sit there until deadline?

I explained my suspicions on you earlier and it has to do with your exchanges with tammy so unless you are going to claim very early onset senility you shld probs know the reason as to why we are voting you.

Yeah I didn't fully read your piece of that yet
But me knowing the case on me doesn't help lead to my own lynch. You need to get 9 other people. And apparently you're not interested in doing that.

[SleepyKrew]

"aggressively"

[SleepyKrew]

will anyone, please, PLEASE, give me any input regarding the speedy slot and its admitted active lurking? I mean dunno if nobody gives a shit maybe I'll just join the method as well

I'm hoping they get vigged. If they don't, they certainly would be an interesting lynch to push D2 especially with their crumb.
Also, please please spoiler your sig.

[SleepyKrew]

you can't just disregard that. in encourages lurking. if you can only get lynched if you participate, you just won't. we have enough inactives in here.


also my sig was hidden until now, and now I made it shorter, that's odd

Oh I definitely think they shouldn't be lynch-immune. I just am not interested in lynching them today.

[SleepyKrew]

you can't use spoilers in sigs -_-;

anyway, so, uh, it is just that really, nobody stands out like speedy. It doesn't look like we're going to get ANY lynch right now, and even if we do, what info will we get from it? who DO you think should be lynched?

Not_Mafia is the intersection of my reads and realistic lynch candidates. Standard post-flip info stuff which players much better than me will understand. And hopefully a scumflip to boot.

[SleepyKrew]

Spoiler: when in doubt,

VOTE: not_mafia

Might want to make the vote outside of spoiler tags :p

[SleepyKrew]

@SKrew: why do you dislike SaintK's push on SS? do you have a townread on SS now?

I have a deadread on Speedy Saki. I dislike Kerrigan's push onto them because it was easy and lazy instead of the catchup we were promised and I am still awaiting.

[SleepyKrew]

Isn't encrypter a only scum role?

Holy shit you're scum just for this

[SleepyKrew]

Oh look helium made a post and it

wasn't

explaining that vote on me. So are you going to actually push my lynch or just sit there until deadline?

you've essentially done exactly the same on me on a number of occasions.. multiple times you have called me scum, yet everytime failed to go further to explain

Ummm I'm not pushing your lynch atm because I know it's not viable... which is the whole point... whereas helium is voting and not even trying to push the lynch they're voting
Like did you even try to read what you were quoting?

[SleepyKrew]

cos skrew is saying that he thinks my reasons for townreading tammy are bs and that tammy was claiming vicimization.

omfg why wasn't the vigshot real

[SleepyKrew]

VOTE: shos

I would like pie's input on skrew and to hear what tammy thinks.

NOTE TO SELF

[SleepyKrew]

on the other hand, him calling Tammy "obvscum" did feel really off and now he's not really following up on it (although that could be bc he doesn't wanna push a lynch on someone who's def not going to be lynched)

You should reread that because I clearly called her null

VOTE: shos

I would like pie's input on skrew and to hear what tammy thinks.

NOTE TO SELF

you incessantly bitched and moaned about how everyone needs to get on a realistic wagon and how we needed to explain our suspicion of you.

we did both and now it's a "note to self"?

lol

Yup

[SleepyKrew]

"I STOPPED DOING THE BAD THING YOU TOLD ME TO STOP DOING CAN YOU LEAVE ME ALONE PLEASE"

[SleepyKrew]

yeah, except mollie never did leave it "unexplained" or leave you "unpushed" as she was trying to make you the forefront of her conversations with other people.

great shoehorning, though

words words words
I should probably take a step back

[SleepyKrew]

fuck. I did read it wrong

that's what I get for skimming everything I miss

brb looking again

Upon rereading I can see where the confusion would arise sorry about that

[SleepyKrew]

yeah, except mollie never did leave it "unexplained" or leave you "unpushed" as she was trying to make you the forefront of her conversations with other people.

great shoehorning, though

words words words
I should probably take a step back

Please do. You are posting too much and saying too little. So maybe hold your thoughts for like 5 posts and make 1 moderate length post instead of 5 super short useless posts.

-Beast

I meant just hold back in regards to engaging helium, but you're probably right.

the way I read it, him asking about "victimization" was his way of asking why she responded in the way she did

THANK YOU
re: Tammy is my aunt
Irrelevant non-game stuff.
re: mollie's townread on Tammy
I thought mollie was saying that Tammy agreeing not to argue with mollie was the reason for the townread. When mollie explained that it was more how Tammy responded rather than what the response was, I dropped it, because I have no in-game experience with Tammy.

[SleepyKrew]

Kerrigan, why did you vote Speedy Saki in the first place? What changed?

Also I'm genuinely not sure if Not_Mafia should claim because idk if there's enough time and enough reasonable people for it to matter

[SleepyKrew]

Before we wind up with entire pages of Saki insults, can we all just agree that Saki is playing the ditz and leave it at that?

Assuming you mean the one after that

Vote: Speedy Saki

Get your godsdamned act together or else I'll make sure you don't see lylo.

SS, does that really look like me trying to join a counterwagon? Be honest.

The only reason I voted Saki is because they've been pissing me off the entire time I've been doing my catch up. Why? Because the slot's been playing dumb for the majority of the game and it got to the point where literally just seeing a Saki post would make me feel like punching out my monitor. (Perhaps not quite to that extreme, but I trust you get my point.)

I don't think they've been any less annoying. So again, what changed?

[SleepyKrew]

@Kerrigan
Okey dokey makes sense. Please be aware of closeness to lynch and deadline as you prepare your thought thing.

[SleepyKrew]

Wait a sec

Before we wind up with entire pages of Saki insults, can we all just agree that Saki is playing the ditz and leave it at that?

You were emotional enough for an anger vote, but still calm and measured enough to say this?

[SleepyKrew]

Yeah, a whole six minutes after. Idk if this is SCUMFAKERY or just someone having better control over their emotions than I do (impossible!)

[SleepyKrew]

After reading 30+ pages in one day and taking notes, you wouldn't want to see more spam posts either, right?

I'm gonna say I believe you, but I wanna yell SCUMFAKERY one more time anyway

[SleepyKrew]

And now I'm okay with a shos lynch!
(ps when you scold someone for not reading, at least scold them for not reading the right post)

[SleepyKrew]

The way he claimed didn't even look like a VT claim to me.

[SleepyKrew]

Also I'm genuinely not sure if Not_Mafia should claim because idk if there's enough time and enough reasonable people for it to matter

Okay, Skrew is probably right there, so because of my role and the chance of me being an NK is very low anyway, claim VT.

[SleepyKrew]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: shos

[SleepyKrew]

^autolynch
And I am very happy with that claimed shot

[SleepyKrew]

You had better not be doing crossfit Tamantha

[SleepyKrew]

The Wire had a town encryptor.

#rekt

[SleepyKrew]

ALL is quite ambiguous wording

[SleepyKrew]

Wait there was a mason in that game but it didn't effect the day masons cause they were already DAY MASONS.

If you actually cared, you'd just fucking ask the mod

@mod
Hypothetically, would an encryptor, regardless of alignment, make daytalk available for all private communication?

[SleepyKrew]

Wait there was a mason in that game but it didn't effect the day masons cause they were already DAY MASONS.

If you actually cared, you'd just fucking ask the mod

@mod
Hypothetically, would an encryptor, regardless of alignment, make daytalk available for all private communication?

OR I would just go with what I believed to be true?

Ummm no not if you were actually trying to figure shit out

[SleepyKrew]

Wait there was a mason in that game but it didn't effect the day masons cause they were already DAY MASONS.

If you actually cared, you'd just fucking ask the mod

@mod
Hypothetically, would an encryptor, regardless of alignment, make daytalk available for all private communication?

Apparently Haylen didn't get the memo
Have we not already gone over this like 5 times? I am pretty sure Marquis asked a question like this in the thread that the mod answered.

-Beast

[SleepyKrew]

Claim: 2-shot Commuter
I'll get my closing thoughts out before bed

[SleepyKrew]

Wait there was a mason in that game but it didn't effect the day masons cause they were already DAY MASONS.

If you actually cared, you'd just fucking ask the mod

@mod
Hypothetically, would an encryptor, regardless of alignment, make daytalk available for all private communication?

Have we not already gone over this like 5 times? I am pretty sure Marquis asked a question like this in the thread that the mod answered.

-Beast

Apparently Haylen didn't get the memo.

Fixed

Eh, kinda having second thoughts about shos. Like I expect him to be Vengeful here a lot of the time - that's a really creative fakeclaim if he's using Nero's super VT comment as a crumb. I suppose scum Vengefuls exist too, but yeah, expecting shos to flip town.

I don't think there's really enough time to get a town swarm to power an alternate lynch through who isn't not_mafia. I think both are town, but at least with a shos-lynch we get another flip going into N1.

wtf

[SleepyKrew]

If you think I am scum, you really should shoot me. You've been shouting about it.

Sleepy is town. It would be a bad shot.

whut
scumslip

[SleepyKrew]

Post 1458 actually feels pretty town. Not sure why you think it is a scumslip SleepyKrew.

He's trying to assert another player's towniness ahead of his own. There is never a case where someone is townier to a townie than themself, and very few where your read should be anywhere near that confident. Does this make sense? I'll try to see how to explain this better

[SleepyKrew]

UNVOTE: shos

VOTE: mastina

You know this vote is useless for several reasons, right?

[SleepyKrew]

we will dl lynch shos only if necessary

There's also the fact that I highly doubt Zach will count a vote for "mastina"

[SleepyKrew]

jason I would really like to engage you in discussion about your scumslip so as to draw more attention to your scumslip

[SleepyKrew]

If you think I am scum, you really should shoot me. You've been shouting about it.

Sleepy is town. It would be a bad shot.

"You should shoot me instead of that guy."
A townie would not say this.

[SleepyKrew]

Oh apparently Zach does accept mastina votes as for SoL

[SleepyKrew]

you [SleepyKrew] are also hinting that you are going to nk tammy cos you think that I am less well liked and you might be able to lynch us.

Could you quote the post(s) that make you believe this? I'm not seeing it. At all.

Holy shit when did they say that

[SleepyKrew]

you [SleepyKrew] are also hinting that you are going to nk tammy cos you think that I am less well liked and you might be able to lynch us.

Could you quote the post(s) that make you believe this? I'm not seeing it. At all.

Holy shit when did they say that

Apparently my bullshit-detector has been overloaded because I competently missed that

[SleepyKrew]

Tell mastin to make her computer stop not working
MOLLIE COMPELS YOU

[SleepyKrew]

Tell mastin to make her computer stop not working
MOLLIE COMPELS YOU

okay mastin actually has been posting around the site

[SleepyKrew]

jason my sweet where did you go D:

[SleepyKrew]

Post 1458 actually feels pretty town. Not sure why you think it is a scumslip SleepyKrew.

He's trying to assert another player's towniness ahead of his own. There is never a case where someone is townier to a townie than themself, and very few where your read should be anywhere near that confident. Does this make sense? I'll try to see how to explain this better

There have been several games where I've thought other people were being townier than me. (Yes, me.)

To the point of saying "shoot me not them"?

[SleepyKrew]

skrew - antagonistic

You don't think I'd be so as scum?

If you think I am scum, you really should shoot me. You've been shouting about it.

Sleepy is town. It would be a bad shot.

"You should shoot me instead of that guy."
A townie would not say this.

No, I am saying he should shoot the person he has been shouting is scum for the last X pages instead of someone else. It doesn't make sense for him to shoot someone else other than the one he is saying is scum.. which is why I believe his claim is fake.

yeah no not buying it

you [SleepyKrew] are also hinting that you are going to nk tammy cos you think that I am less well liked and you might be able to lynch us.

Also, a reminder!
Could you quote the post(s) that make you believe this? I'm not seeing it. At all.

Holy shit when did they say that

Apparently my bullshit-detector has been overloaded because I competently missed that

[SleepyKrew]

Dammit!
The third quote should say "Reminder!" after it

[SleepyKrew]

what
the fuck

...I don't even understand what happened in the last 4-5-howeverlong pages. Someone please give me a synopsis of what the fuck just happened. I will be posting on my phone from here on out because there's flash flood and tornado warnings going on where I live (aka won't have computer access).

Are we even going to bother lynching anyone other than shos? I don't understand why the Not_Mafia wagon died due to a VT claim. Since when does that justify getting a clean slate?

Hoopla said STATISTICS said that N_M is most likely telling the truth and then shos claimed Vengeful which = autolynch
(but mollie hasn't gotten the memo)

[SleepyKrew]

mollie when you say I disappear, do you mean I flake/replace out or my activity dwindles?

but shos is genuinely trying to figure out who to vengekill and not in a scummy way and under so much pressure and under so little time. like I don't think he believes that I can truly turn this around. and he isn't fighting it really.

Or he's trying to see how many people he can get to claim.

brb
(lol brb)

[SleepyKrew]

ugh can't be as active as I want atm (though I'm sure several of you appreciate that)
I will ~DO THINGS~ before bed
Also tempted to stay up and have a deadline party

[SleepyKrew]

hi
I can't commute during the day
bye

[SleepyKrew]

shit I don't think I'll have as much time as I wanted and I'll probably be asleep come deadline

scumz: jason, Not_Mafia, helium, SAD, SoL
not sure on Juls anymore
Speedy Saki... you all know
Kerrigan idk leaning scum?
Feel like I have too many scumreads

[SleepyKrew]

if shos graciously spares me, please don't try to neighborize me

[SleepyKrew]

if shos graciously spares me, please don't try to neighborize me

I can happily live with being Long Feng

[SleepyKrew]

SHIT JUST REMEMBERED SOMETHING WRT N_M AND HOOPLA

[SleepyKrew]

on. Granted, I think some high-level thinkers might be able to claim VT and escape it, but these only people familiar with the meta to this level and Not_Mafia definitely isn't. He's a level 1 player and would make a level 1 play which is claiming a PR when you're going down.

daytalk!
Did really no one else bring that up or did I just miss it/forget?

[SleepyKrew]

daytalk!
Did really no one else bring that up or did I just miss it/forget?

yeah, people have mentioned coaching or whatever. nothing new.

Doesn't that invalidate your low-level player thing?

[SleepyKrew]

"but how do you know that scum have daytalk, if you're not SCUM!?????!??"

the encryptor claims hint towards that

[SleepyKrew]

I can vote jason and he might actually get lynched? Hallelujah!
VOTE: jason
So I don't have to go through my interactions with Tammy anymore (I'll carry on Waffles). Still need to sort helium.

[SleepyKrew]

It's funny because jason doesn't get sarcasm, and apparently neither do you!

[SleepyKrew]

IMPLICATIONS

[SleepyKrew]

So I did VCA and honestly SKrew looks pretty damning based on that alone. I still think I want one of Jason or Slice lynched today though.

Guys, believe me I'm right. Sheep me or you're friggin scum.

lolwut this post please die

[SleepyKrew]

So I did VCA and honestly SKrew looks pretty damning based on that alone. I still think I want one of Jason or Slice lynched today though.

Guys, believe me I'm right. Sheep me or you're friggin scum.

lolwut this post please die

Which part is bad sir???

All

[SleepyKrew]

Juat an observation as I said, as it seemed you knew more about NK reasons than anyone else......it was 'interesting' speculation.

So are you gonna do anything with this observation orrrrrr

[SleepyKrew]

what's the case on jason again? someone give me the footnotes...

ISO me ctrl f jason

[SleepyKrew]

I concur with your agreement of me!

[SleepyKrew]

Actually, a quick look at Jason in SleepyK ISO... He is asked a lot about his scum read on me, and avoids it EVERY TIME.

jason stuff later

okay someone asked me why jason is scum but I doubt he will be today's lynch so I'd rather not add that noise (it's probably in my ISO somewhere)

Sure, give your reasons why I am scum, then I'll do something 'useful'

Or you could be proactive

you risk looking like a retard for the rest of the game, js

You can just go fuck off you goddamn pair of useless pricks



I'm glad we're all huggy happy feely now. Or at least maybe until helium posts again. There will be postgame WORDS.
jason doing scum things etc

Who are your scum reads sleepy?

strongest are Juls, jason, and SAD

Who are your scum reads sleepy?

strongest are Juls, jason, and SAD

these are town reads of mine to various degrees.

Juls reaction today didn't soften your scum read at all?

why on jason and SAD?

Juls's reaction besides hydra stuff? Because hydra stuff is thoroughly alignment-irrelevant.
jason and SAD because of their scumpostings
As I've said I'm not gonna make a case when I don't think the lynch is viable

So there you go, Sleepy has been shouting for my lynch since day 1... but has provided sweet shite all in way of reasoning, going out of his way to activly avoid answering multiple times why I am scum or to put a case on me and then uses the weak as piss water beer excuse of a scumslip which isn't even a scumslip


So either put up a case, or STFU

misrepping at its finest
I'm at Best Buy want me to get you anything?

[SleepyKrew]

ISO me ctrl f jason

can't you just give me a succinct four-line highlights package?

Ugh fine I will
Need any spare parts?