You could be anyone II - Game Over

[pirate mollie]

hi guyz

whats going on

[pirate mollie]

vezo

you ironically don't make me sad with your vote

[pirate mollie]

hey guyz

strangecoug might actually be scum!

VOTE: strangecoug

IaI is accused of trying to hard. throw in vezo for good measure!

[pirate mollie]

why the slobbering all over that syrup thing

eta: that was to tso
eta2: you are still pretty bad titus

[pirate mollie]

How am I bad? You voted one player and FoSed the two players scumreading you. That's bad OMGUS.

if you think that I fosed vezo you need to go look up irony.

if you think IaI was fosing me, you need to learn what fosing means.

pretty sure that was his way of saying hello.

pretty he had me at hello but I know how sneaky he can be but is a great asset if town so I am keeping him at arm's length until I form a better read.

that you missed all of this is why you are bad, but having said that I do not think you are a bad player just starting things off on the wrong foot if town.

[pirate mollie]

I'm not liking Mr no creativity. He is being much to creative.

yiley we have a completed game together yeah? it was with my mastina hydra?

[pirate mollie]

Why are people so annoying this game?
I have a reasonably town read on gamr.
Mollie is doing something weird and I have no idea why.

what am I doing that is weird vezo?

[pirate mollie]

hey guyz shiny things

do you know who might actually be scum here? strangecoug

@ kthanx

wake smells like a vote that would gain traction based on a pl vote plz tell me that isn't what you are trying to do cos I am pretty sure that would mean you were scum. you being scum would bring great sadness to my heart.

wat was wrong with the strangecoug wagon

in other newz, townreads on titus, garmr, vezo mebbe that syrup thing.

I have no fucking clue what to make of those ff creatures

[pirate mollie]

VOTE: StrangerCoug I forgot, SC was trying to be serious. That's no bueno.

Mollie I've been high on this all night. You should not be townreading Garmr.

-FFED00

okay. I will kick him out of the townpile for now cos you are helping me with strangecoug.

what I am not understanding is you baiting him in the manner that you are but then I had an ohIseewhatyoudidtheremoment which is why I am not really interfering. I thought his easy breezy covergirl entrance looked good. but then I wondered about the wking and his arguing with you about rvs when his entrance was rvs is kind of weird. what are you thinking?

[pirate mollie]

Mollie, why are you townreading me when I said your opening look like Book of Shadows?

I HOPE that my game looks like book of shadows cos that means I was not a total bust despite what has been said about that game!

what this means is that I am town.

I think you are town cos you seem batshit crazy to me and for you yes, yes it is, a towntell for you.

[pirate mollie]

4 pages of writing didn't read one

VOTE: Pirate Molly

I agree; I do like this. But unfortunately lately I've seen scum growing more and more natural-sounding. It's like they're... evolving!

That is a part of why I don't like him for town at all. Hypocrisy is a null tell in my opinion. The scumread is more because of the specific content regarding his hypocrisy. "Let's get out of RVS, that's what town should be doing" is such an easy statement to make as scum that does nothing for town except give towncred to someone who doesn't deserve it (case in point: vezok's townread on Garmr [yes, I am reading vezok as town]). I find it harder to believe that Garmr is town who said that genuinely, given his entrance.

-FFED00

I am with you on that. he then moved to *mafia is srs bizness* to titus hence the wking comment and then a dovetail onto a 1v1 with you.

do you think this looks like fake progression?

eta: xposts

[pirate mollie]

Mollie, the only town player who I remember that tried to dive into a very early 1v1 was notscience.

Almost all other instances were scum playing the "I'm acting like I'm confident in my towniness" game.

-FFED00

mara does it all of the time

when garmr voted you originally suggested that you thought it was a pl or did I misread that

eta: fuck it those ff things are town
eta2 if you ninja me again you bite back a bloody paw
eta3 goddammit

[pirate mollie]

Also Garmr is scum taking advantage of Titus' subpar play but I'll vote him later when I feel like bussing again.

-FFED00

This was my reaction to Garmr's vote on us, Mollie. Literally the second post after it.

-FFED00

but then you tried to bus him and gave him up so easily

[pirate mollie]

@FF
I will make you a deal If you stop spamming the thread with shit every ten seconds and think about your posts I will take my vote off you.

My kingdom for a gladiator shot...

-FFED00

I wish I had a glad shot because I would use it because I'm certain your scum.

Why offer to take your vote off of someone

your

"certain" is scum?

Do you want us to just give up on thinking

your

scum?

As far as I can remember, you've given no other scumreads. So please, keep

you're

vote on us.

FFED00

you took your vote off garmr

[pirate mollie]

xposts re: garmr and ff things

basically you both are accusing each other of the same thing.

bad scum theatre. BAD!

[pirate mollie]

Hey mollie! Remember Ki Gi?

This Garmr dude might be worse!

FFAE00

Mollie do you see my reach out? Pls be town xoxo

yes and I am here

[pirate mollie]

I already have a love/hate relationship with ff creatures

[pirate mollie]

ffs

I am with mom.

lets bake some cookies.

ff creatures are pushing your buttons for a solid reaction, garmr.

[pirate mollie]

:/

So you are just Garmr Garmr, not Krystal bald in a hydra named Garmr or a mantis Garmr?



Just... Garmr?

why are you pushing him into a meltdown?

trying to discern motivation here

[pirate mollie]

did you guyz claim already ff I forget

[pirate mollie]

Useless? What are you talking about

Mollie I'm a little concerned that you had to tell Garmr while we were still in the middle of getting stuff from him :/ whatever, I'm going to defer to Fae's read on him now. I think I'm fine with him.

FFED00

you have never misread me

that you are even remotely concerned is somewhat alarming since you understand me much better than most. you both do.

[pirate mollie]

hey ffe d3x is scum!

VOTE: d3x

haha, ffe

I spotted scum before you!

mollie - 1
ffe - 0

[pirate mollie]

also the irony in who is bitching about ff creature's spamposting when it isn't spam at all they have managed to produce more content than some of the other players combined. that strangercoug sees this makes me mebbe lean town on him.

but @ strangercoug

why are you ignoring meh. you can't still be pissy over that retarded light switch argument

xposts with ffa and ffe

[pirate mollie]

Coug's latest post is giving me mixed feelings, and suddenly I'm not completely into the wagon anymore.

VOTE: Aunt J

Better wagon (as of this moment).

FFED00

erm no.

I am telling you that there is something up with d3x. at least

look

at him. I am in the awkward position of not being able to quantify the read for similar reasons I would not be able to quantify a town!meta read on you guyz if called on it. capeesh?

eta: yes I am around

[pirate mollie]

Dex a good vote for now?

I think so

I don't think he would soft push a lynch on me based on him eating bad pizza without trying to interact with me if he were town. or at the very least discussing it with kthnx.

[pirate mollie]

I'll look and say my piece on them in a few. I don't think I'd be able to come to a conclusion without a bit of hemming and hawing first, the post you reacted to is something I can't get a read on at all. Sorry

FFED00

we could get competing wagons on td and d3x that should be interesting.

[pirate mollie]

we could get competing wagons on td and d3x that should be interesting.

I endorse this product or service.

well you looking town kind of ruins that. :/

td and IaI then?

[pirate mollie]

ffs

VOTE: tiphiane death

if tiph flips scum then we defo need to look at IaI cos I think scum are sitting back

[pirate mollie]

Laugh at the fact your heads aren't new or cry I caught you so fast?

titus. ffa reached out to you and I think you should take her hand instead of going all feral and biting it. just some friendly advice.

@ d3x

cos he made a playstyle comment that SOME PLAYERS WHO I WON"T POINT OUT thought he was fosing moi and he is sitting back. I think if scum he is dangerous, ap and I wifomed ourselves in posh into 2 mislynches cos we thought that there was a framer. IaI turned out to be traitor if that tells you anything. I like to sort him early but don't fully trust myself cos I blew a lylo and mislynched him so it is a bounce off of townreads maneuver.

eta: that was for fuck's sake, ffe

[pirate mollie]

Titus... Try to keep up... If you are town

FAE00

titus, this^.

[pirate mollie]

@d3x, No player should want to be wagoned. It makes no sense. Being wagoned is against wincon.

This is very much not true on a lot of levels, but it could easily descend into a distracting theory debate. Suffice to say, being Wagoned =/= being Lynched.

@mollie- That's fair. I still think the choice between the 2 is clear. I'm glad you agree.

IaI clangs tho

why are you ignoring IaI?

he has made 2 posts, an rvs and a meta playstyle comment

td looks bad but I feel like td always looks bad nacho is better at decoding him than I am

[pirate mollie]

@mollie- What do you think of Kthx right now?

my immediate response is that the lazy vote on wake stands out. but I am not sure if he is up on the wake meta or not and it is kind of worrisome at how quiet wake is being. if wake flipped scum I would think that kthnx might be bussing since you guys come from that era.

what do you think of him?

[pirate mollie]

I've never played with either.

I dislike TD's contributions thus far, esp p326. Overall, he feels like he's trying to skate without making waves.

To me IaI just RVS posted twice. I see your point, but I don't neccessarily agree with your conclusion.

I agree but do you see kthnx leaving any waves in his wake?

IaI is more of an analytical player who calculates his outcomes regardless of alignment. in xeno1 I kept thinking that td was scum but nacho warned me off of him. nacho was right, and I think td did eventually put forth some decent content. I think I might have 1 other completed game with him I can't remember. he has never been on my radar.

I am voting him cos I wanna see what ff creatures shakes out as far as reaction goes (meta mining!) and I trust my townflail/scumflail detector even tho it isn't by any means infallible.

[pirate mollie]

Check the vote pattern connection between FF and TSO.

ftr he made posts like this in xeno1. do you see why I had trouble with him?

halp

[pirate mollie]

I agree but do you see kthnx leaving any waves in his wake?

I've found that this isn't nearly as solid of a metaTell for Kthx as it has been in the past. He's been playing a lot {without me} and I think he's gotten a lot better at D1s as Town.

better in what way? as far as accurate reads or that he doesn't 1v1 anybody and meltdown at the first sign of town derptitude? I totally empathised with every meltdown he ever made btw. I am pretty sure I was right there with him.

[pirate mollie]

Could you guys just like stop posting? Every half hour or so I come in here and see 2+ more pages and that just makes me more and more disinclined to actually bother.

:ironicat:

[pirate mollie]

He's been better at being TownRead by others. I don't know that his sig applies much any more. He's never really made many waves as Scum, he's always felt like helpful Town. TownKthx has been the one that makes waves D1.

p.edit- I think you'll find the amount of static has largely subsided, though Majiffy.

I agree and say he isn't making waves. is that why you are a bit worried about him?

[pirate mollie]

I refer back to my previous statements. Him not making waves at this juncture is largely Null.

I'll give you my Read on him after he's posted some more.

okay.

my townreads are:

d3x
ff creatures
titus
garmr
mom
vezo

mebbes are:

that syrup thing - mebbe I dunno
majiffy - altho I am not sure why he would proxy his vote to me. this stands out.
those creativity things
stangercoug - this might change cos I am not getting what I need from him but I am going to work with ff creatures on this.

every1 else is up for grabs except for kthnx cos I trust d3x.

people of interest are:

td
IaI
rach (hasn't posted)
josh thing
tso
nero
wake

the rest are being boring

eta: xposts

[pirate mollie]

@Kthx- How closely were you following the game when you Voted for Wake?

[pirate mollie]

I'll be online later today.

I reckon a couple hundred more posts are in store for me when I return later this evening.

OH YEAH. COFFEE TIME.

mebbe we shld just help kthnx bus wake

sometimes I think it is the only way to get scum lynched on this site.

UNVOTE: TiphaineDeath

[pirate mollie]

majiffy - altho I am not sure why he would proxy his vote to me. this stands out.

d/r, PM...

I am listening

what made you vote wake and don't hand me rvs crap

[pirate mollie]

majiffy - altho I am not sure why he would proxy his vote to me. this stands out.

Good. Tell me more.

since when do you proxy your vote to me?

I always have to fight you with reads unless we come to the same conclusion independently on our own.

you proxying your vote to me stands out

[pirate mollie]

majiffy - altho I am not sure why he would proxy his vote to me. this stands out.

Good. Tell me more.

since when do you proxy your vote to me?

I always have to fight you with reads unless we come to the same conclusion independently on our own.

you proxying your vote to me stands out

Yeah I haven't bothered reading yet and I know you're pretty good.

Problem?

yep.

since when?

[pirate mollie]

Since ever I just usually like having my own reads and they usually conflict with yours.

Even though yours tend to be more correct

And this is the only time I'll ever admit this so you should probably bookmark this post.

are you kidding me I am sigging this the very second this game is over if you turn out to be town.

[pirate mollie]

@Kthx- How closely were you following the game when you Voted for Wake?

What? The RVS crap?

Less the 'RVS crap' and more the Voting.

What do you think of Jiffy?

Meh. What are your thoughts on him?

@mollie- What's the difference between Rach and inte and Lucky? None have posted, but Rach is the only one of the three you've listed as a 'person of interest'.

rach is familiar to me and therefore easier to read. she has also been posting elsewhere

[pirate mollie]

eh still nothing real great.

Mum is still scum.

Jiffy is scum. I think he's far more likely to sheep as scum then town.

So what are we going to talk about Mollie?

how about the reasons for your awful reads

[pirate mollie]

Saying that at the time means more than saying it later. The vote timing seemed suspect because at the time all the wagons were about the same 2 or 3 votes, and that one put her at 2 while she had recently voted Stranger (also a wagon), was debating TSO and debating Titus. Reasonless RVS on most active most engaged player?

I have no idea how to handle perv's sheeping and then subsequent wking on a player who wked me when I am sure he doesn't think my play is worth a shit.

halp

[pirate mollie]

5 poast combo

in case any1 is confused about what constitutes as spampoasting this is a spam poast.

cos some people seem to be genuinely confused.

[pirate mollie]

>>> maybe she is scum for not reaching out

FFAE00

I will bite your hand if continue to do this shit

[pirate mollie]

Really 19 pages already? Well forgot some reading too do. Also I will most likely not post from Friday noonish until Sunday night pst

^ this is a prod dodge and so was IaI's yeah?

[pirate mollie]

Saying that at the time means more than saying it later. The vote timing seemed suspect because at the time all the wagons were about the same 2 or 3 votes, and that one put her at 2 while she had recently voted Stranger (also a wagon), was debating TSO and debating Titus. Reasonless RVS on most active most engaged player?

I have no idea how to handle perv's sheeping and then subsequent wking on a player who wked me when I am sure he doesn't think my play is worth a shit.

halp

There are too many pronouns in this sentence for me to follow.

Help Mollie? Can you translate this but using playernames?

I think that perv's wking of me whilst throwing suspicion on garmr who wked me and saying that he is sus for rvsing in the first place when I am pretty sure perv does not think much of my game was where I was going with that.

[pirate mollie]

stranger kitty

might

be town.

lol

swapping stranger kitty for titus. that should make ff creatures happy. titus has been dropped down to unsure.

DO YOU HEAR ME FF CREATURES I AM LISTENING TO YOU!!1! <3

BUT WAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT NERO????

@ garmr

I kind of feel like perv would not blatantly sheep my vote as scum. I feel the same way about majiffy. I think we need to sort those who are on the fringe but perv is in my unsure mebbe town pile. he has never been the easiest for me to read despite us playing a shitton of games together. in some games I feel like I have a better grasp of perVology 101 than others.

but ffa loves him so its okay!

there are a lot of players who are not getting their hands dirty.

[pirate mollie]

is sc really nitpicky and jumpy as town?

we got into a 5 page argument over how light switches work once.

I think stranger kitty is town.

you are not in my town pile btw.

[pirate mollie]

ack sorry all thought I had posted here had to hunt down the game in theme park (I generally use ego post)

I blame it on the vicodin I have been eating like candy for the dental work, I can't even work right now

Will read up and catch up on 25 friggen pages

yeah, no

I am thinking rach is scum guyz.

which puts an interesting spin on tso's vote and his hurried unvote the second she posted even tho it is crap. it looks like early pressure on a nonexistant scummate to me.

@ stranger kitty - what think you?

IaI, nero and josh thing all still stand out.

[pirate mollie]

also UNVOTE:

[pirate mollie]

cool, mollie's gone again.

if you do not know what my alignment is at this point then I have no idea what to tell you.

an anonymous hydra outed themselves to me I mean sure they could have centered their whole hydra/gameplay around me as scum but I doubt I am that important.

I think majiffy wants to sort them.

I didn't like this tho:

She just doesn't meld well with Rach.

I don't like this.

pretty sure I meld fine with rach. at least on my part I do. rach has never given any indication otherwise.

what disturbs me is the discredit.

[pirate mollie]

Is ff a hydra of marquis and ika? Cause it sure feels that way.

you lose all points with this post.

ika is in the "I have no creativity" hydra. obviously ff creatures are nacho and tammy. they are town can we let them do their thing

in other newz I am not sure what to make of titus. games that I have been in where this is my usual greeting:

graveyard

hi guyz

whats going on

touhou
Subject: Touhou: Mafia in the Land of Fantasy (Game Over)

hi guys!

whats going on

reckoning
Subject: The Reckoning III (Math is Hard) Holy crap, perfect town win

hi guyz

whats on

upick song
Subject: Song Contest U-Pick - GAME OVER

hi guys!

whats going on

^ all town.

there are a lot more. I do it in nearly every game but not all of them. it is non-alignment indicative and certainly does not denote confusion.

I don't know what to do with titus. on a jerome scale of 1-10 I give her and ika a 15.

I like mom's push on nero but I am wondering why she is being so singular about it. her saving grace was her honestly trying to sort ff creatures with the garmr blowup; the confusion looked genuine. if this is multi-ball then this is null.

d3x is so town.

I wanna put stranger kitty in there too but he is being so lateral. still a town read tho

kthnx needs to crawl out from under his shell.

[pirate mollie]

I typed a mean post to tso and don't feel good about it.

@ garmr

why were you looking for writeboads again?

[pirate mollie]

I typed a mean post to tso and don't feel good about it.

@ garmr

why were you looking for writeboads again?

Habit from my scum game that leaks into my town ask Tso as he has experienced me doing it as town before.

link?

[pirate mollie]

majiffy why are you still voting ff creatures

scum are here:

IaI
josh
td
nero
wake

somewhere in there be scum.

VOTE: TiphaineDeath

[pirate mollie]

im still super behind here... Page 15 and wondering how Garmr didnt get lynched. I don't agree with the way that wagon ended. Also not liking the FFs, which is not a statement about wether I think they are scum or not, I just don't like them and I blame my having to catch up on so many pages on them.

Because this game is full of people who know and can see it's my town game.

Partly because I misunderstood the whole qt slipping thing. I thought that you slipped about being in a qt. But why QT and not PT. Has jason still not switched over yet?

Lucky2you is probably scum. It seems like he thinks Garmer is scum, but he's more focused on the wagon ending.

After reading this post you pointed out something I missed. The fact he wasn't happy that my wagon stopped. Which I consider curious as my wagon never really took off. (basically was a rvs vote from a player who hasn't returned and ff.) In fact my wagon has never been past 2 votes.

I want Lucky2you to explain himself so I get a clearer image of whats going on in his mind.

I bet we can clear this shit up in a heartbeat

hey lucky do you like playing scum or town?

[pirate mollie]

I have a good guess about who one asof the FF heads is based on playstyle, but I'll keep it to myself.

I'm not liking IHNC. He's just spitting out reads without reasons. While I still have my reservations about T S O, IHNC

REALLY

needs to step it up.

Major HoS: I have no creativity

To the other people not providing reasons for their reads, I don't foresee this game letting me forget about you.

Rereading. IHNC was not prompted for reads, and if they were it wasn't a request strong enough to significantly matter. I see random readslists as town things to do. The heads of that hydra are no exception. The random unjustified reads, as well as their RVS play, are both town actions of theirs. Leave creativity alone.

FFED00

I don't give a flying rat's butt about anyone's town meta. Or anyone's scum meta, before anybody brings that up.

I care about your meta stranger kitty

[pirate mollie]

majiffy why are you still voting ff creatures

Cuz I don't like them.

we aren't lynching them. so your vote is pretty much wasted.

do you really want me to quote mine every single time you have talked about wasted votes? cos I will, I am tired, sick and on antibiotics and feel cranky as shit and still fucking contagious, apparently, that is what the guy at the minute clinic said. despite me having this for a WEEK.

[pirate mollie]

Nero how dare you vote for a fellow mafia addict. For that, your punishment is to go to usmessageboard.com and help newbies play.

How is he a mafia addict if he flakes all the time?

come to the dark side

AuntJ-FrenchToast, and ham,egg, and cheese bagels from that

clown plac

e.

TSO is acting a little different this game.

Kthx is acting a little different.

Hostile Intent are you using an alt? I thought we were in this

thing together.

Can we all agree that the proper nick name for PeregrineV is PerV? I'm looking at you Tiph.

the color has no impact on this message.

oh I forgot to add kthnx to my list of suspects. I am still kinda waiting for d3x on that 1.

has hostile intent replaced out? like I don't even remember them being in this game.

VOTE: TiphaineDeath.

This is mafia, not eenie meenie miney moe.
TSO or FF are scum. pfft.

Just playing. TSO usually starts off his games a certain way. I'm not making it a definitive "he always does this as this allingment" meta thing, but since he didn't, I'm going to be keeping an eye on him.

Why am I standing out Pirate Mollie? I think I have one post and this one.

this tells me if td flips scum then there is a good chance that josh might too!

also you ninja'd me, so the question was a pedit.

so self-conscious.

voted me, what even the fuck. VOTE: josh

What? did I agree with you? What did I agree on?

scum tripping over each other.

Oh, I take it back, he's making fun of me, not agreeing with me, carry on. UNVOTE:

No Titus, he would have been agreeing with me that there is scum in tso/ff, pay attention.

Oh, good. I'm glad someone explained it to you. It doesn't really matter though on the grounds that this could be... multiball.
oops I said it. multiball

If there is anything that I learned from AuntJ in the previous Jason game, Marvel Avengers Alliance, there is a 98% chance of a game this size having not one, but two count them two scum teams. oh yea, and an SK, don't forget about the SK.

hhhmmm...

Also I think Garmer is scum. Last game, scum had daytalk until the encryptor died. which wasn't very long.

Was I not supposed to mention multiball

so garmr is scum cos in your last game there was a scum encryptor and garmr is looking for the scum encryptor as opposed to fishing out masons or neighbours like he said he was doing. okay.

you somehow make garmr look even more golden then he did before.

@Josh/TSO not TD.

At the time of vote:
I think Tipaine used a very solid mylo scum tactic to accuse TSO/colorhex of being scum. Unfortunately it's D1 and barely not out of RVS. It's too early to be making those sort of associatives from a town mind set. Tiphaine tried to skip important parts of the game.
Further:
I also think scum have daychat , and she didn't figure out that I was making fun of her on her own, the vote hop was also scummy and showed that she didn't have any investment in her own case, her explaination that TSO/colorhex were voting similarly was weak and even weaker when she turned it into both of them might be scum.

who is she and her

are you talking about td? do you guys have a game together where you know what gender she is cos I always thought she was a guy. also this looks like weak cover for a scummate.

im still super behind here... Page 15 and wondering how Garmr didnt get lynched. I don't agree with the way that wagon ended. Also not liking the FFs, which is not a statement about wether I think they are scum or not, I just don't like them and I blame my having to catch up on so many pages on them.

Because this game is full of people who know and can see it's my town game.

Partly because I misunderstood the whole qt slipping thing. I thought that you slipped about being in a qt. But why QT and not PT. Has jason still not switched over yet?

Lucky2you is probably scum. It seems like he thinks Garmer is scum, but he's more focused on the wagon ending.

yeah that garmr is scum didn't last long did it. garmr townslipped in a huge way

Josh here's a question for you if I get lynched or night killed and then I flip town. Do you think scum would still have day chat?

What? I misunderstood something because I didn't read it in context. I'm better now. I think.

I am only quoting this for lulz

I bet we can clear this shit up in a heartbeat

hey lucky do you like playing scum or town?

This question is generic. What do you hope to accomplish with it?

a lot actually. I bet ffe gets it.

IaI
josh
td
nero
wake

This is the same eenie meenie miney moe crap that I was talking about earlier. You can't just going to throw out a bunch of random names and expect everyone pick from this list. Can I iso you to find out why you think each person on this list is scum?

if ANY1 wants to try to argue with me that josh isn't scum I dare you to try.

I think he is scum with td it certainly looks like he is trying to cover for them.

[pirate mollie]

how about the reasons for your awful reads

Are we really going to have this conversation again? *sigh*


I'm town and thus she is wasting her vote. Her push on me feels incredibly EZ (read something scum could easily hedge on.) I had also felt a sense of Déjà vu like it had happened before and Thor or Nacho had a similar push on me in a game. I looked at the game I had thought it was in but I guess I was thinking of Titus' terribad push on me that I "sofclaimed vig" and when I said that I didn't I essentially get "I SAID THAT'S WHAT YOU FUCKING DID SO THAT'S WHAT YOU FUCKING DID!"

Though I do think that miscategorizing things is something that is p scummy. Venmarscum did this in Ms Fantasy Camp.


An Iso of her slot also reveals that she's not pushing TSO so

What is super town about mom?
Who should I scumread and why?

lol

so nero is like confscum at this point yeah?

[pirate mollie]

like really lol.

NO REALLY IT IS LOL.

why would mom's push on tso be relevant when she is voting you and actively trying to get you lynched?

when you are not even hinting at tso being scum.

[pirate mollie]

What is super town about mom?
Who should I scumread and why?

^
questions for mollie

might be town but wouldn't care

pirate mollie

I don't think you really give a shit what I have to say.

[pirate mollie]

UNVOTE: tiphaine death

[pirate mollie]

D3x, I apologize for not quoting a game we were both in and read. Saying Mollie tends to come in and be confused is not vague at all. That was her entire stance Day 1 in Book of Shadows. What's going on? is also commonly asked by players that are or are acting confused. I can grab quotes later if you have forgotten.

titus did you read the post that d3x linked?

I am going to keep this very very simple.

[] yes
[] no

cos it does not seem like you did.

I didn't dodge about TD. I am leaning he is horrible town OMGUSIng everything in sight. I don't think an action is objectively scummy or townie. It depends on context.

I did redirect to FF. FF might not have mentioned my name but he has particularly satirized me in the thread. The whole woe is me after spamming is a large insult to me which I had commented on previously. I am redirecting to him because I am more confident he will flip scum and in the event I am wrong the game will be more enjoyable to everyone and more associations can be drawn.

put this in context.

you were pl-ed in xmen for doing the exact same thing that you are accusing ff creatures for (you had over 500+ posts on d1!!1!), the difference being is that the overwhelming majority of ff posts are actually game relevant while you and rogue spammed the thread with irrelevant gd crap. <---- you ruined the game for a lot of people that is why you were pl-ed I think I am the only dummy who actually thought you were scum and it was only cos I gave you more credit than you deserve.

there is 1 thing in this world that I cannot fucking stand it is a hypocrite.

especially a self-righteous 1 who thinks they are better than the person they are putting down without 1 ounce of humility that would demonstrate that you actually learned something from that game.

I don't care who ff creatures are. I do take in consideration that they more or less outed themselves and I don't think they would do that as scum. I could be wrong. I will also probably be more sympathetic than most as far as seekrit alts or hydras even tho I hate them cos once I pretended to be my mentor while he pretended to be some1 else in a game. he gave me his account cos he wanted to see how I handled heavy town expectations and he wanted to play against me to see what I had learned from him. we couldn't do this with outside interference. I think it is a cheap way to dodge meta but who am I to judge.

I don't care who mom is. mebbe it is nacho, thorella, mastina, tierce, tammy, fery who the fuck knows. who cares. I don't like how nero is trying to take advantage of mom wanting to be anonymous by using thorella's meta on her. I don't even care if nero is right. mom feels townish but with titus's townread on her I am so rethinking it. I don't like the trolleytracking but nero's pushback feels even more wrong.

d3x is so town, he will bleed green I think. he is a vulcan. his response to me suggesting competing agons between him and td was so unselfconscious, so not concerned with the outcome it can only come from town. <---- both majiffy and nacho have had to explain how a suvivalistic mindset is not a scumtell for over a year. but the lack of 1 seems to be sure as fuck a towntell.

there are people who are not posting and skating.

not mafia is 1.
inte is another.

I am giving tso a bit of space I feel like when people pester me with "OMG WHAT IS YOUR READ ON ME" questions they tend to come from town.

tbh I kinda wanna flashwagon not mafia. I have seen his townflail before so I feel like mebbe I have a decent grasp of it? I can't read td worth shit I wish I could but I can't.

if this turns out to be multi-ball a lot of these reads will change and when I say multi-ball I mean multi scum teams not an sk. my read on d3x WON'T you will have to pry it from my cold dead fingers and that will only happen if jason in a pm tells me he is from the zombieboard.

[pirate mollie]

I'll get more specific later tonight, but I wanted to say that Titus' view of the gamestate is very perplexing to me. I can't quite decide if it's scummy or not, but it definitely doesn't line up with what I see.

I had this problem in xmen.

[pirate mollie]

@Nero, so I was lynched for disagreeing with the majority. My feu case was solid and right. I was lynched for scumreading Venmar for being useless and responding to shit.

that isn't why you were lynched.

Also, where the hell do you get off saying I want to lynch either of you or Mom? It's bullshit like that that makes it impossible to wirk with people.

I can see where nero got that:

Why don't we see who is right? Mom or Nero Cain or if that's town v town? I doubt Mom and NC would be scumbuddies together.

I'd rather flashwagon inte out of the two. Not mafia has some content in his posts and might be redeemable. Inte's just useless and bitches about posting rate.

it looks to me like you are wanting to lynch 1 of the 2 to see if it is tvt or if 1 is scum.

were you meaning something different here?

also that post makes me wanna lynch not mafia all the moar

VOTE: not mafia

also plz tell me what content he has produced! cos I see none.

[pirate mollie]

its a pl vote.

what are your thoughts on pl-s?

he was aping popular sentiment, not really doing anything credible.

what is kind of funny is he sounds like josh!

(garmr I am not ignoring you)

[pirate mollie]

People I'd be happy seeing swing Today {in no particular order}:

Yiley
Wake
inte
TD
Titus

eh, there really are a LOT of players not getting their hands dirty.

re: Kthx- The problem here is that his blatant refusal to read and his willingness to Sheep aren't really indicative of either alignment. I wouldn't be heartbroken to see him go, but I don't have a solid ScumRead on him. I have him as a weak NullScum atm.

eh, I read that as more town!kthnx than anything but it is a light townread. I think I could probably even guess his role. at least we can count on him to meltdown out of sheer boredom at some point where he will follow the usual pattern:

stage 1 - complains about d1 and expresses how much he hates it.
stage 2 - some1 that kthnx likes will ask him to do something. he will feel obliged. *does something*
stage 3 - gets frustrated when people argue with him. decides the game is full of dummies. /meltdown fully engaged.
stage 4 - bored and frustrated starts 1v1 anything that moves in order to make the game more interesting for himself.

amirite?

I take it you are very committed to td. who are your strong townreads? we should probably coalesce a bit.

@ nero

you best believe I am sigging the shit out of that.

I agree with you about titus. I found that really strange too.

you have moved to unsure.

did you guyz claim already ff I forget

How do you know their alts?

I am a mod on another site, so I think it is just habit. ffe had been reaching out all game to me so it wasn't that hard. what is interesting is that I find that most, "how do you know" questions come from scum but you are asking about identity and not alignment so unsure.

and IaI, we have not played together in at least a year and a half. I have mellowed a good deal since then mostly due to living on the commune's influence and nacho's. I would like to think that I have grown as a player too, but it is hard to objective about 1self. so I would be more surprised if you thought that I was the same.

I will wait until you have caught up.

[pirate mollie]

jesus christ

I can't leave you people alone for a second

@ garmr

you are anklebiting that endz thing but hey you forced him out of his hidey hole and now I have better feel for him so ty for that! <3

but now it is time to stop. at least for today.

I see town motivation in what he did so loose townread cos I don't know him. I can't tell if he is making good town sense and is in the too townie to be town type of scum or if he is genuinely town who happens to not be a dummy. competing wagons on d1 is just plain good sense why do you think I got whiplash with d3x when he was willing to put himself on the chopping block in order for this to happen. I lean town on endz thing. he is going to ignore you cos anklebiting is annoying, you did it to me earlier, backed off, then tso took up the call, then backed off, josh b is trying to rabble raise when he is a whisper in the wind. IT IS ANNOYING when you are town and trying to consolidate.

and that is what it looks like he is trying to do. his frustration reads more that he thinks your reasons lack complete and utter sense from HIS perspective rather than scftwr. I only understand it cos I have hydra-ed with you before and town!you would be more likely to hyperfocus on nitpicky trajectories than to take a step back and look and try to understand the gamestate as a whole. <---- this is what you really need to do at the mo IMO.

please understand that I am not bitching at you, I am trying to pull you in.

I am not happy about ff creatures being the competing bw but mebbe that will clarify things especially since I am not really getting townflail from td. not mafia has a palfrey 3 posts, the votes are awful, the trajectories are awful why the FUCK is this thing allowed to be given a pass. this is not town!notmafia I don't think. will settle for td unless he towntells between him and ff creatures if it comes to that. i am hoping that scum!notmafia will catch on even if it is like neon green socks and it is for retarded reasons.

@ endz thing

garmr is still pretty new despite his join date, as has been already pointed he was banned for 6 months. you shld have enough experience under your belt to know that wrong does not equal scummy and that you have to do some digging below the surface of some things. when I hydra-ed with him I did not understand his thoughts processes at all but went with it cos I wanted to learn about garmr and I had zero chemistry with anybody except for cdb. he got banned and I was left alone in that game. I did badly cos I could not follow any of the map that we had set, I was pretty quiet. I felt lost. made a bad decision in lylo. I think I learned a thing or 2 at least I hope so.

light townlean on garmr.

[pirate mollie]

Mod: How many to lynch?

I'm disliking TiphaineDeath's response to Kthxbye. He responds to his request to elaborate on his scumreads by being as useless as he can help. It's like there's something to hide.
UNVOTE: IHNC
VOTE: TiphaineDeath

omg you are really scum aren't you

[pirate mollie]

Why did you unvote TD here when you just listed him in your person of interest section 7 posts prior? Esp with no revote?

pssst.......I know this may be shocking but I think there might be more than 1 scum!

Did you check to see if the other 2 hadn't been posting elsewhere?

nope. I didn't check to see if rach was either I simply noticed that she was!

Through page 20, will try a massive catchup post tomorrow night.

I will continue to wait for you to catch up!

IaI is still scum guyz!

back to scumreading nero.

[pirate mollie]

Give me a division of first wagon and second wagon with color coding.

there is this awsum feature we have on this site called ISO

like

you could iso the mod and find out for yourself instead of begging some1 else to do it for you!

[pirate mollie]

jesus christ

[pirate mollie]

My name is NtM, and I am a maple syrup addict.

Mrs butterworths is the best syrup evah

vote: Yiley

You should be ashamed of yourself.

But no, I mustn't! I shall support Queen Mollie in her quest to relieve our fine kingdom of the deadly Coug

ars

!

*cough*

ultimate pro wrestling

*cough cough*

-FFED00

You got a wrestler as your character as well?

...Sure, let's go with that.

Since you're asking anyway, fullclaim, now.

-FFED00

VOTE: Wake88

Nothing prior to post 137 is of any importance.

-FFED00

He looks like flustered Town to me unless I'm missing something.

Yeah the kid is town

Couldn't have known this without my push right?

Although FFED00 was one step ahead

FFAE0

It took me way too long to get to this page, but here is an abridged list of the things I don't like about FF.
Whether or not you are scum, which I suspect you are, you deserve to die.
VOTE: FFAE00 FFED00

Has anyone else played with the ffs? Are they usually like this?

hey guyz, these are not mafia's 3 poasts!

if you have ever played with him before then you know that this is not town!not mafia! he is actually a really strong player for being so new.

can we lynch him plz?

[pirate mollie]

hey guyz!

say it with me now:

"vote not mafia"

[pirate mollie]

or you can help mom sort josh.

I am not picky.

[pirate mollie]

I'm tempted to say "how about both of you" at this point. Right now I think they've devolved into just tearing at each other, and I'm not getting anything of use from it.

strangerkitty I am hardpressed to remember a single read that you had.

your big red letters post is what moved you into the townpile for me but you voted td as if you didn't even think that he would flip scum. <---- I consider you to be a pretty good scumhunter so the lack of impetus is throwing me off.

[pirate mollie]

or you can help mom sort josh.

I am not picky.

I'm up for sorting josh.

then push him.

[pirate mollie]

I'm tempted to say "how about both of you" at this point. Right now I think they've devolved into just tearing at each other, and I'm not getting anything of use from it.

strangerkitty I am hardpressed to remember a single read that you had.

your big red letters post is what moved you into the townpile for me but you voted td as if you didn't even think that he would flip scum. <---- I consider you to be a pretty good scumhunter so the lack of impetus is throwing me off.

I didn't like his big letters post.

If you liked it, why didn't you vote me?

More to the point, what's your read on me again? You never answered it the first 5 times I asked.

I see I am going to have to address this.

cos I thought you were above the age of 16. not by much but some and you seem to in the past have demonstrated more maturity then to demand a read on you instantly.

I vascillate between scum and town on you. in that faith game, you played well, falling below every1's radar but made clear seemingly town posts. in space mafia where we were masons with you and wked the fuck out of you, you let us down. in a big big way. <--- that isn't the only game where you checked out as town either.

so while your posts "appear" to be decent your meta fits more with that you prefer a scum alignment over a town 1. that is why you are an unsure mebbe scumread but mostly unsure can't tell if town.

I put you in the light town category cos I have this utterly retarded thing called hope, where you would actually give a damn about your town games and not be dumb.

does this satisfy you?

i know this is harsh but I am losing patience. I can't tell if you are wanting sincere engagement or not. you showed me kindness in a game when I sorely needed it even tho you were scum. <---- I don't forget things like that so if you are wondering why I am not crawling all over you and ripping you to shreds that is why. I also feel like you would not need to pester me this much as scum, unless you were planning on nking me.

so you are unsure.

I do know that I am tired of yours and td's bickering and srsly wish there was more scrutiny on not mafia. <---- why the fuck is that thing being given a pass. that is what I would like to know.

[pirate mollie]

I do know that I am tired of yours and td's bickering and srsly wish there was more scrutiny on not mafia. <---- why the fuck is that thing being given a pass. that is what I would like to know.

Because he has 3 posts and I can't normally catch people on 3 posts.

Because hes new and he looks like he siteflaked and is probably going to be replaced?

lost my townread on endz.

[pirate mollie]

Because hes new and he looks like he siteflaked and is probably going to be replaced?

yeah but like that doesn't mean the slot didn't get a scum pm.

we might be having a moment here

[pirate mollie]

there are 3 posts in a 999 gameposts all are w/o useful content.

this is a quality over quantity argument but you are trying to come at me with a quantity over quality argument which is why you have plummeted.

[pirate mollie]

Hes got 3 posts.

An RVS post.

An actual content post where he says he wants to lynch the colors in part because they spam.

A post asking for meta on the colors.

If you could just go ahead and point out what I missed in that sequence of posts that makes that slot scum I would be quite obliged.

okay.

1. rvs. sure people do it.
2. I am sorry did you just say that wanting to lynch a player cos they spammed is somehow...not like an rvs? are you being for realz?
3. he asks for meta that he does not follow up on. <---- i found it a weird question to begin with cos I don't think not mafia does heavy meta. he doesn't need to.

on d1 scum tend to lurk things out. anticipating the direction where townherd mentality is going is the best thing to do so that scum can set the pathway for future mislynches. town usually eats their own on d1 and I 4 1 do not want to see this happen.

[pirate mollie]

told you twie was scum mollie

shut up

[pirate mollie]

I agree with TheWayItEnds that the Not the Mafia case is weak. He had three posts within a less than 16-hour window and then... he vanished. Maybe he was raptured? I don't know, but he will be replaced.

Remember how quickly the thread was moving back then?

His last post was less than 24 hours after the game started.

So while it's easy to say "Look at him 300 posts into the game still not generating content," the truth is the game was still young.

As for the meta jab, I wish we could comment on his very limited meta but... it suffices to say I don't see anything amiss. This "case" is actually scummier than Not the Mafia.

Vote: pirate mollie

At the same time, I do agree with pirate mollie that more people should give their thoughts on Josh_B.

I just want to clarify something...so you are voting me...cos you think my case is bad on not mafia?

when not mafia has not site-flaked? <---- are you even looking at who is saying that he did and will probably get replaced? and throwing up a smokescreen of "oh it isn't who you are thinking of" when i am pretty sure I am thinking of the same not mafia whom I have played 2 games with and who did exceptionally well (at least IMO).

I am voting an inactive player whom I think would have delivered better content by now.

and saying meta-wise you have nothing? are you being srs here?

I have no words except that this makes me want to pressure not mafia even more.

@ josh

2008-2010 was an era where voting/bussing your scum partner was da kewl thing to do as scumzors. if you don't believe me do a site meta check and look at the players who came from that era. mastina was practically a rebel when she got all like "hey dummies mebbe bussing is not the best way to go!". I can think of 2 games off the top of my head where scum did this! like in their very first post.







like I just want to try to understand this.

[pirate mollie]

When/if Mollie confirms that she was referring to the wrong person with her Not the Mafia meta, my vote will probably move - if that's what she was thinking then that changes things.

MOM, why aren't you voting TD?

I'll get to lynching your scumbuddy in a minute, just let me wrap up with Mollie. Patience is a virtue!

yes I thought that not mafia was not the mafia.

derp.

[pirate mollie]

Oh

See, I figured she was just insulting me.

lol, why would you think that? we tried to nk you 3 times before it finally went through.

how the fuck did we win that game.

thanks for lynching nacho tho.

I think kthnx might be scum. he is avoiding d3x and I like we have bird flu or something. it is weird that he is staying away from BOTH of us when he shld have a read and SHLD have reached out by now.

[pirate mollie]

hmmmm....

i would say something but i thihnk i know enough to where going further is anti-town.

anyway.....

lets get the game moving:

dayvig pirate mollie

U should design a better gambit.

you mean its only a gambit?

@ majiffy

eh, still less than thrilled with IaI.

I wish you would trust me on kthnx.

I can't tell if josh is dumb or scum.

I will probably put up a full list later today. what do you got

oh and what do you think of nero

[pirate mollie]

I don't know whether to laugh or to cry at garmr taking my shut up post srsly.

Not Voting (5): inte, Wake88, RachMarie, Lucky2u, Yiley

^ this is a problem.

majiffy, add d3x to your town pile. I think ika and titus might be town too, they are in the loose town pile. mebbe tso.

okay I am working on my complete readslist since I am going to be dayvigged lolololololololol

[pirate mollie]

~ mollie's readslist ~

soooo hydra partners first:

majiffy - town. it is interesting cos majiffy and I have slipped into what I call the "divagib" dynamic which means we will probs vote together as soon as we can agree on some1 and that some1 will most likely be scum. I disagree with his reads which is not unusual cos they are usually wrong on d1 but he is fantastic at mid to endgame analysis. it is why we compliment each other in games when we are both town and townread each other altho our hydras tend to be somewhat of a nightmare to deal with.
nero - I lean scum but unsure. I find his and mom's push on each other to be a bit weird single focused and yet...the idea that FOR ONCE nero is taking my reads srsly is so enticing that I WANT him to be town. like I really do. but I am thinking nope.
garmr - it is funny cos I have told him to shut up in skype mafia so it really is funny that he is acting all fragile now, but I still think he is town. he just isn't reading my posts in my voice. I am probably going to get weird on him tho, cos the whole "not the mafia will probs just replace out" freaks me out cos why would you think that. the other thing that worries me is he likes to play scum and some of his timing seems contrived. more dancing required.
ff creatures - I moved to unsure cos of their strange disappearance after the td wagon grew legs. <--- I didn't like that at all.

players who might as well be hydras:

d3x - town. he gave a clear shout out that stopped me in my tracks. don't lynch him ever. he kthnx and I have this weird dynamic that I do not even know how to explain. those 2 have their own friendship but in games we 3 seem to just get each other and it did not take a ton of games for us to reach this. in the first game I ever played with him he subbed in and we just clicked it was the strangest thing.
kthnx - I think he is scum and it breaks my heart. I thought mebbe town for a second but no he isn't. scum
titus - she goes in that category cos we have f2f experience. xmen was a giant wake-up call. I think i am spotting some town glimmers. so light townread.
ika - lots of skype mafia experience, if he is scum and titus and I are both town we will eat him and he knows this. light townread.

players that I am familiar with:

rach marie - she is lynchbait. tso was not lying about that. what I found strange is that he voted her for being lynchbait like that is so weird. her reach out felt nice, not liking the timing of the v/la tho. unsure
strangerkitty - none of his pushes are strong and he is overall just meh. I felt a very strong signal in playing cards enough to fakeclaim hider and "hid" behind him cos he was THAT TOWN. still managed to get lynched in lylo but it wasn't his fault. I liked his tso push tho cos I get it but I am just not feeling the same oompf I felt before. I am giving him a teeny bit of space to see what he does. would like to see more of him. unsure like I am 50/50 on him. would feel fantastic about him if tso were ever to flip scum.
perv - you would THINK that after all the games we have played together that we would have a better grasp of each other but somehow we don't. I think his sheeping me onto strangerkitty mebbe town it would be too strange for him to do as scum. unsure, very light townread.
tso - I am trying to figure out if his thank you would come from scum!tso or not. I don't

quite

ever get his reasoning and he is doing a lot of posturing on td. unsure.
vezo - my newest mafia love but he still takes some studying! I thought town with his exchanges with syrup thing looked town but he hasn't doesn't anything exciting recently and I would love for him to cough up a few reads. that would be nice. so townread from me.
IaI - tricky tricky tricky. 2 games together. feels like scum, his catch-up posts feel a bit scummy. I am going to wait for him to fully catch up and then we are gonna have a nice chat.
wake - unless he has had a radically personality change he is being tame. it is entirely possible that he has absorbed some of the feedback that has been given to him. he asked me a question and tbh I read it like 5 times and I am not entirely sure what he is asking. cos I gave my garmr read so why is he asking me about it. if kthnx were to flip scum I would look at wake since he is leaving zero waves in his wake.
lucky - played a game with him, shld probs go check it cos I remember him being way more active than this. simply not enough to say either way.
td - ugh. ugh ugh ugh and more ugh. I am not getting what I need wrt townflail so that is why I am not going apeshit crazy in defending him BUT...the whole "it seems to be easier to determine my gender than my alignment" rang as genuine. his pushes are awful wrt the reasons if he would ragepost with a wall and a more comprehensive readslist I could say for sure but no, he isn't doing that. I am not in a hurry to lynch him cos perv wants us to wait and I wanna see what perv says. scum!perv wouldn't try to stall on a scummate and I am kinda thinking he wouldn't on town either. so after typing this out I am thinking perv is town. if perv thinks td is town I am going to take that into consideration.

players I have no experience with:

syrup thing - I am leaning town altho their disappearance kind of bothers me. they feel gut level town tho in a way I cannot really articulate.
mom - I feel like I shld know who this is cos they were trying to "humour me". they are being waaaay too singular with their nero push and if nero flips scum then they shld NOT be autoread as town. it would be nice if I knew who they were. I don't think it is nacho. so that makes me think that nero saying they were is a huge red flag about nero but mom did not push against this and I wonder why, but pushed against the they might be thorella thing. it makes me think that he is paranoid that nacho can read him well. it also makes me wonder if doublebussing is involved COS I DON"T KNOW WHO THE FUCK MOM IS. nor am I going to try to figure it out.

at least not publicly

. light townread.
yiley - who is this person where did they go
josh - the push on me is so god awful and for such shitty reasons it is like omg but I can't help but wonder if he just has no idea what he is looking at, if so I will accept his apology.
hostile intent - I find the push back on me trying to lynch him is 1 of the most interesting things I have ever seen in a mafia game. there is scum calling it a bad push in there I fucking know it.
endz thing - unsure I thought he looked kinda town with his back and forth. majiffy disagrees but mebbe we can clarify this with

hey endz thing what is your favourite role to play?

[pirate mollie]

the idea that FOR ONCE nero is taking my reads srsly is so enticing that I WANT him to be town. like I really do. but I am thinking nope.

getting a lil' tired that you are pushing this when its factually untrue. I KNOW we had some of the same reasoning in x-men. I also suspected not mafia (yes, I know there is a THE in the name) before you started pushing him me thinks.

why did you think not the mafia was scum, nero?

cos you never really said it nor are you helping the case which is unlike you.

[pirate mollie]

So then can we agree that the arguments you were making for lynching him were bad then?

this is a strange counterargument since the premise is that "your reasons were bad cos you did not know who you were pushing!" when I just said I did not know the person I was pushing was not the person I was pushing. <---- weird. circular arguments are circular tho I guess.

Apparently we cant agree on that.

You tried to lynch him based on someone else's meta... like if you dont think thats a bad push then i dont know what is.
... You're also still voting him I think. Which strikes me as odd.

^^^ do you think scum are more likely to make mistakes like this or do you think town are? srs question.

My favorite role by a large amount is VT.

what do you like about playing vt?

[pirate mollie]

re: Kthx- I have serious reservations.

Nully points- He hates Larges. He hates D1s. He hates spammy posters.
Scummy points- He tried to force my Read on him early. He hasn't risen to any of my bait attempts. He isn't engaging with his targets when he chooses to engage, it's mostly surface scratching.
Towny points- He is being relatively transparent.

how is he being transparent?

[pirate mollie]

@mollie- Maybe I'm not using the phrase the same way you're using it. He's not being cagey or sneaky about things. His posting feels pretty 'up front' to me. If not for those other points, I'd be mostly fine with him.

see i feel like he IS being cagey and sneaky. the only evidence I see him reaching out is to sheep your vote. which would make sense given how he hates d1. but...

BUT...

BUT...

[pirate mollie]

whoops I didn't mean to hit submit just yet!

as I was saying, BUT...

he has not reached out/flirted with me at all it feels like he is not wanting to get close which I always take to be a for sure scumtell. he isn't dancing with me d, you have to admit that is weird. look at how fast he and I found each other in jason's marvel mini. I don't think he has ever read me wrong in a game and he should be townreading me by now but he doesn't seem to be when kthnx KNOWS I am a safe haven for him even if we are just shooting the breeze.

mebbe I am just giving too much credit to our past games I just really feel like he shld have responded to our reaching out by now and talking about him right in front of him is a reach out! if he was town I would think he would be all indignant and "holy shit you guys are both being dummies I am town" but of course he would say it much nicer cos that is just his way, to not be rude, but I find his utter lack of response to be cagey and sneaky.

@ titus

ika is a light townread how did you miss this

@ majiffy

how do I post my smilie from mr on here? I can do tr, ratz and ratskep gifs but the mr 1s never seem to translate.

[pirate mollie]

Mollie, whats your favorite color and why?

my favourite colour is green. I am not entirely sure why mebbe it makes me think of growing things. when I was growing up and my parents were fighting I would stare at my aloe plant and think about how aloe is a sticky cooling substance and that is why it is used to treat burns. it creates a soft yielding shield around a burn. we didn't have internet when I was growing up.

in massage therapy school we were asked "where do you find your replenishment for when you feel worn out?"

1. husband was number 1
2. kids were number2
3. nature

husband is dead, 1 kid is grown and is going though a stage but I find playing uno with my other kid to sometimes be the highlight of my day. he is also drawn to nature we go on long walks around the lake near our apartment and we feed ducks and talk about deep stuff. he is so awsum in how he reasons things out like I have hope for humanity and all that.

green is also his favourite colour. I am not sure if this means anything and it reminds of high school where my fave english teacher had us take this test where "colours" were assigned to personalities. I actually tested green but my classmates were like omg "you are so blue! you are freaking emo!" and yet the test was how you categorise things and I am probs a lot more rational then most people think I am.

mebbe I am just aqua. or turquoise.

colour me crazy but I still think that not mafia/hostile intent might be scum. <---- plz, for the love of zeus can town players look at who was defending him.

[pirate mollie]

@d3x and PM: You 2 are cute.

VOTE: Yiley

Flash wagon into ground initiated.

that isn't even a slap or tickle you are still keeping us at arms-length. which I think town!kthnx wouldn't do.

VOTE: kthnx

[pirate mollie]

that isn't even a slap or tickle you are still keeping us at arms-length. which I think town!kthnx wouldn't do.

Apparently town!kthxn would indeed do this. Especially today. Especially in this large of a game.

It's all good though, I still <3 you.

why did you have to go and do that

UNVOTE: kthnx

okay we are flashlynching yiley

VOTE: yiley

whoops

VOTE: yiley

[pirate mollie]

Even when

my previous slot

posted it was filler bullshit.

my previous slot

never actually tried to do anything.

my previous slot

coasted into oblivion.

fypfy!

for transparency reasons I am just going to say that I am attempting to triangulate with nero in order to get a better read on him. hostile intent will be a beautiful by-product I am still freaking wondering where this whole "OMG HE WILL BE REPLACED!!1!" pushback is coming from it is so freaking bizarre.

I am trying to figure out the best way to respond to josh. I am looking at who is townreading him.

oops

[pirate mollie]

I was asking you to explain why you asked Hostile Intent to claim or die.

I was mostly fucking around though the first time I did want to see if he'd panic.

what do you think of his slot?


So in that Marvel game someguy that was scum and sitebannedYates got ran up. Whoever the scum guy refused to vote Yates. Its very similar to how TD isn't voting FF. If you are town TD then this is very very bad play.

Yiley wagon suxs though (yes, I know I had him as scum.) but the fact he's a CW to FF makes me a lil' uneasy.

I think this might possibly be the scummiest post I have ever seen.

nero, are you scumreading ff?

[pirate mollie]

So.. it appears as though the Nero case has been abandoned...

Is it normal town behavior for PirateMollie to abandon her reads in favor of a random flash wagon started by someone she is scum reading?

If any one else wants to help me lynch Mollie as the superior scum in this game, that would be great.

what nero case were you following?

mom"s?

is that why you voted nero??? \o/

[pirate mollie]

So.. it appears as though the Nero case has been abandoned...

Is it normal town behavior for PirateMollie to abandon her reads in favor of a random flash wagon started by someone she is scum reading?

If any one else wants to help me lynch Mollie as the superior scum in this game, that would be great.

what nero case were you following?

mom"s?

is that why you voted nero??? \o/

I have never voted Nero.

no shit so what exactly was the case on nero that you were keeping up with?

[pirate mollie]

Jump onto this wagon, Josh_B. Already things are happening.

^scum

[pirate mollie]

I have never voted Nero.

no shit so what exactly was the case on nero that you were keeping up with?[/quote]

I will freaking post this every single time josh posts until he answers.

so josh, hostile intent, mebbe nero dunno wondering about garmr.

[pirate mollie]

So.. it appears as though the Nero case has been abandoned...

Is it normal town behavior for PirateMollie to abandon her reads in favor of a random flash wagon started by someone she is scum reading?

If any one else wants to help me lynch Mollie as the superior scum in this game, that would be great.

what nero case were you following?

mom"s?

is that why you voted nero??? \o/

I have never voted Nero.

^ this is what I was responding to!

[pirate mollie]

So.. it appears as though the Nero case has been abandoned...

Is it normal town behavior for PirateMollie to abandon her reads in favor of a random flash wagon started by someone she is scum reading?

If any one else wants to help me lynch Mollie as the superior scum in this game, that would be great.

what nero case were you following?

mom"s?

is that why you voted nero??? \o/

I have never voted Nero.

no shit so what exactly was the case on nero that you were keeping up with?

I will never shut up.

[pirate mollie]

VOTE: josh

[pirate mollie]

I also do not approve of titus avatar change

ffs you would I would notice the skin change

[pirate mollie]

*think I would notice

[pirate mollie]

Does anyone actually believe in anything they're pushing right now? This game feels dead in the water.

that is because you aren't helping me. as usual, you are doing your stubborn thing and won't help me lynch scum cos you don't understand what it is that I see. I am not quite sure HOW many games it is going to take before you get that d1 it is best to just listen to mollie. but consider this an early "I told you so".

look at the responses to mine and nero's not the mafia push. look at the responses to mine and d3x's push on yiley. look at them and ask yourself "how fucking despicably bad at mafia do you have to be that you are defending a lurker". the counterargument is "oh they haven't posted much I am just not seeing it" when lurking is a fucking proven scumtell <----- like it is probs 1 of the most reliable. so you lynched a lurker and they turned out to be town? nobody said it was a 100% it is just a reliable 1 and the best way to get some1 active is to vote them.

the game feels wrong cos people are being retarded and not even remotely trying to work together except for d3x and surprisingly nero and I. kthnx is in there too. its sad cos we are only 4 players and I think 1 of nero and kthnx are scum.

you know for a moment I thought I had found a divagib dynamic and for a moment it felt great. I miss that so much but it pisses gibbers off to play with me cos I can read him reliably well (I have not misread his alignment in 3 years. 3 YEARS) and I can do it in a single post. it doesn't go both ways tho he read me as town in the last mr game so now he has gone back to sitting games out with me in them. I miss him. we still have the social engineering thing going on tr tho so there is that.

@ titus

in xmen you had metal as for sure town and I tried to tell you no he isn't so forgive me if I trust my read over yours. who else did you have in that shiny townbloc of yours that you tried to put together oh yeah scummajiffy turns out I was right about him too!

in other newz I am not as much of a fan of the yiley lynch as I was of the not mafia lynch. I might help strangerkitty tho cos wasn't tso 1 of the 1s defending not the mafia and now he has him as scum? fucking lol

right now scum feel like tso, wake, not the mafia/hostile intent and 1 or 2 of the non-voters and still possibly kthnx. hey if I were scum in this game and I saw that town were finding each other I would lurk the fuck out of the game too and hope no1 would notice or would be stupid enough to defend me.

which reminds me

@ josh

some1 was kind to me and explained to me things once a long long time ago. this is me, reaching out to you, in case you might be town. I have my serious doubts but I am just going to pretend you are for a moment.

I started playing in 2009. not on this site but on another that imploded into a lawsuit that involved a famous scientist. then I went to the shelter site and played my first real game there. do you know who was in that game? mantisdreamz. awsum person awsum player you shld play a game with her sometime. I would say from 2010 and before players would do this thing where they would vote their scummate in their first few posts. I was SHOCKED when I joined ms to find that people still did this. people did it on tr too until I was scum with gandy and we DIDN"T bus even tho we both thought that testy was retardedly scummy and super not much better. most fun I have ever had in a game even tho I despise playing scum with a passion. but the way we worked that game together was beautiful, the only game that has come even close was in legends but I hated playing scum cos I was neighbours with majiffy and had to lie to him in text, gchat in the gamethread and we were dating! it was awful I nearly cried when he said he was not mad at me. if he would have gotten over his telephobia he would have spotted me instantly cos I suck at lying with my voice and f2f. I did pwn garmr in a skype game once when I was a jester simply by laughing holy shit that was fun. ika gmed that 1 and 1 of the reasons why I do so love ika is cos of that game. I love ika but I also hate him too cos he can be terribad but I feel like he really is trying to get better.

lol, I kind of strayed from my point there now didn't I. I can pull up probably at least 20 examples of where scum have done this, all games I have played in. the funniest was song upick where mosy tried to bus porkens and I was all like "LETS HELP HIM!!!" and mosy lost his shit so much he dropped his fake posting restriction and then realised that I wasn't an alt and was all like, "you don't know me. I am not afraid of you" when in reality he was.

@ ika

are you going to do anything in this game or what. your fake vig did nothing for me and you are doing nothing with it and why the fuck is beast being so quiet.

[pirate mollie]

[pirate mollie]

it worked!

[pirate mollie]

Coug is probably scum, TD too, but you're constantly sidestepping the two of them. If you were willing to look at this game objectively you'd see that this Yiley counterwagon has sprung up to remove the wagon on TD. That's what it fucking is, because there is no other wagon comparable to TD right now. If you helped me lynch TD today and HI tomorrow we could have 2 fucking scum lynches in the bag, not even counting Coug. Instead you are constantly pushing me away and semi-derailing what I'm doing and meanwhile scum are pushing stuff like Yiley.

If you're town, it's time to get your fucking game face on. I've caught two scum, how about you? Pushing people when you think they're someone else doesn't fucking get you marks here, by the way!

d3x, kthnx and I started the cw to td. so of us 3 who is scum? cos you aren't being very clear about this when if you were scumhunting on a cw to td you would be calling 1 of the 3 of us scum and hardcore going after us. instead you saying "IT IS SCUMDRIVEN OH MY LORD" when I would like a very clear answer as to who is scum on it.

me? d3x? we are retardedly town at this point. kthnx? do it. call him scum and help me lynch him cos the reason I am not behind a td wagon is cos it is stale and I think there are scum on it and it kinda feels like td might be townflailing.

also I was referring to me successfully posting my mr smilie which suits me and I am going to sign all of my posts with it. but hey you seem a bit unnerved is everything okay tso?

[pirate mollie]

And after I make this post, mollie simply moves away, doesn't respond, and comes back in 2 pages later with something peripheral. Cooool. Town unity forevah!

lol

[pirate mollie]

fuck it

VOTE: tso

[pirate mollie]

happy birthday nero

VOTE: FFAE00 FFED00

okay so I am less than thrilled with td for egging tso and I on but not getting his hands dirty and suddenly having a "tso might be town moment" when tso has yet to respond to my posts or vote. I know beast has been around so I am not happy with the ika hydra. ff creatures have been around too, hence the vote.

@ nero - I was thinking that ff creatures wouldn't blow their cover to me unless town when it would better serve them to keep anonymous but honestly I am not sure now. I would have expected them to be helpful and they aren't.

@ IaI - I know that is not nacho and tammy lol, I was being facetious.

@ majiffy - we are so in tune this game it is unreal. I was thinking the exact same thing that this stalling might mean that it IS multi-ball cos that is how it is starting to feel. also you need a smilie at mr cos you are now considered family I think.

@ vezo - I am officially out of mafia love with you cos if you would have been reading my posts then you would have seen that I have been saying since forever sometimes the only way to get scum lynched on here is to force them to bus. this has made me have to skew my reads a bit, I have had to give some1 whom I think is scum a townread (plants and zombies is a good example of this or asofai) in order to get scum lynched but after plants and zombies I don't I am going to do that anymore since some peeps are actually paying attention to my dead reads.

also in the recent mr game that majiffy and I finished I didn't know who else was scum until d3 and on d1 I honestly for the first part of the game I thought aden pulled a nightson and gave us pms where we all thought mebbe we were traitors (every1 was sooo scummy) when really we were town and played from that perspective. it worked to my advantage until the IC outed and then I was like oh I really am scum in this game. I still can't believe we won that game I even asked spruce point blank in the game thread "are you expecting something to happen on d3?" cos he stood out cos he looked the most town, lol. majiffy really was like a town god in that game but jerome. now he understands why I play with him on ignore. so I can empathize but at least you have me!

hostile intent, how much mafia experience do you have? this will help assess you.

which reminds me:

@ rach - why hostile intent?

[pirate mollie]

Fido/Feo stop trying to lurk out from under your wagon and come back to us so I can start townreading you again.

Also, could someone explain the TSO speedwagon to me? I like TSO, he's a good kid.

I like tso. basically for me, he called the hostile intent/not the mafia wagon scum driven when it was only d3x, and kthanx on it. I forgot nero was on it too but if he thinks it was scumdriven then who would be the scum on it? it is the type of generalized blanket statement that scum make to wk another player cos he never clarified who the scum on it were and I am waiting for him to answer cos I called him out on it. plus he is posturing a lot which I don't remember him doing as town but I defo remember him doing as scum.

[pirate mollie]

Not much. My wiki is up to date with my on-site experience: two replaced-in town games and one newbie scum game.

could you plz unpack the progression of your read on tso? you voted him then unvoted him and then had him as town when he had not posted during that time. could you walk me through this?

going to look at your wiki now.

mine isn't up to date. I kinda wanna ditch it and see if thorella could help me come up with a nice sarcastic 1. his is really funny.

[pirate mollie]

Saying "seems town enough" =/= "is a town read"

I literally do not understand what the discrepency is. My read on the slot is null.

Seems town enough meant I wasn't getting scummy vibes as I looked back at the posts.

You can't be that dense.

he isn't being dense cos I was in the process of the pointing out the same thing!

seems town enough = light town read

not

seems town enough = null

also I looked at your games and I am impressed! you have played with some of my favourite players. I think you have more experience than you have let on even if it from another site. your meltdown in your game was pretty good and it is clear you were trying to gain traction as a townread with it. you made the most of your sub-ins which to me = good player.

shit just real

VOTE: hostile intent

[pirate mollie]

Iim a light blue kinda guy, myself.

yeah it is multi-ball.

Sooo.... Hostile Intent, Are we gonna do this thing together or what?

Why mollie?

josh will be a likely scum partner if hostile intent flips scum.

[pirate mollie]

Let's rustle some feathers, guys. Obv Yileyslot is nothing. T S O seems town enough.

UNVOTE: T S O

Let's lynch something worthwhile that'll give us information. That's what I'm about.

I, uh, didn't say T S O was a townread. I was talking about J_B.

I don't have a read on T S O. I was hoping the quickwagon would tell me something but I gott bored with it.

...wut?

So many scum, me thinks the scum are bussing themselves and we're chasing our tails arguing which scum to lynch.

thank god. I maintain that sometimes it is the only way to get scum lynched.

good so we can expect your vote to be on hostile intent at some point today.

unless you wanna give it a go and try to argue that "seems town" somehow translates to a null read? from a player that more than likely knows the difference?

[pirate mollie]

The joindate indicates he could be total noob.

from his town cop role:

Five pages in.

I tend to town-read and go from there.

Got great vibes from jtc's slot. Boonskiies not so much but that's just the trolling stuff. We'll see how I feel about it later.

I don't get the L-3 worry either, that's weird.

Be back later. Cheers.

this mindset does not come from a newb. this is an experienced player who understands the majority vs minority aspect that is key to understanding mafia from a sophisticated town mindset. newb town try to figure things out in a constant state of paranoia and it is completely lacking in his iso in this game. he is comfortable and he is town he knows what he is doing.

he is sorting things out here. do you see him doing that in this game? he coughed up a read on tso who "seems town" but then backpedaled into a null read onto tso. why? why would he do that if he typically tries to find town? that is the only read he has given.

also the fbi claim is funny, we should run him up for flavour claim.

[pirate mollie]

Doesn't have to be TD. I don't care who it is outside of my town reads. TD is just the largest wagon.

you could just quote shakespeare you know

[pirate mollie]

Hostile Intent is my highest townread right now.

Reasons:

1.) The case on him is misguided. As Mollie herself pointed out (while voting for him), Hostile Intent's meta indicates that he starts from a townread and works from there - therefore, him calling "seems town enough" a null read is consistent with his scumhunting methodology.

nono

nononononono

I am NOT letting you get away with that.

null can vary anywhere from "unsure" to "they are simply not registering for me" but they are not "town that I think seem town but wait some1 called me out on it so they are null but by all means lets not sort them UNVOTE: cos I somehow have them sorted and they are...town, and me saying that I work from a 'I find town mindset' that I said in another game where I called peeps town like I didn't call my townreads null I said they were town but in this game I mean they are town but really I mean null and that is why I got all defensive about you saying that I called them town when that isn't what I meant but it is internally consistent with how I map things out even though so far when I say town I mean they are town and when I say null they are unsure and that is the premise I work from but somehow this is not internally inconsistent from me being PRETTY clear in my communications in my other games cos tso is null and I don't want to vote him cos he is null which must mean I seekritly think he is town even tho I have never smurfed up the languaging before".

GET OUT.

2.) If he were scum, he would have gone out of his way to avoid the appearance of contradiction

- he wouldn't have called "seems town enough" null, he just wouldn't have touched on it at all. How could he forget he said that? Answer: Because he's town and isn't paranoid enough to check his last ten posts every time he makes a statement about his prior reads.

this is flat out untrue and you know it. scum contradict themselves all of the time it is 1 of the ways in which they are caught. unfortunately, town do this too! if your argument was based on, "I think he is apathetic, disinterested town who is unused to larges" you might have sold me but not with what you are trying to pander.

tl;dr Hostile Intent is town because he was lazy and made a statement about his previous reads that was going to sound silly as soon as it was investigated - scum-HI would have hastily reread the posts in question before saying he hadn't espoused a read yet and rephrased to avoid this debacle.

oh hey here you go!

I am guessing this is from you actually looking at his wiki! he was much more careful in his scum game but you are attempting to pattern match yet superimpose that isn't what you are actually doing by saying that his reasoning is internally consistent with bored town and not bored scum, which you won't be able to prove.

BUT. it would make more sense to say if he operated from a seeking town axis that he would actually try to find town and

not leave his only townread

not leave a townread up for lynch fodder for the future cos that is what he just did by calling him null and somehow you are arguing against this.

I say we sheep HI's desire to have an info lynch and we start with him cos it was really weird how people were defending him in the first place! when that slot was not the mafia!

[pirate mollie]

"Null" is your read on someone before you have any persuasive material one way or the other. i.e. A starting point.

Hostile Intent's "starting point," as stated in the post you quoted, is Town.

I don't operate that way, but apparently he does, so I'm not really seeing the disconnect here.

he started from...somwhere, voted HI, then moved him to town and then moved him to null.

like that is what happened.

what we are arguing about is why he would have moved him from town to null after unvoting a null read.

^ this is what we are talking about.

[pirate mollie]

So Town can make mistakes but Town can't be ridiculous?

if you get away with this argument then jesus christ

you can't have it both ways, putting up a mask of reason-ability while advocating the opposite of it

AND DON"T YOU LECTURE ME.

[pirate mollie]

I've already full claimed; I've no intent to pander to nonsense like "seems town ENOUGH" MEANS IT WAS A TOWN READ PERIOD.

NAH, NIGGA. NAH.

you flavour claimed don't even pretend like you full-claimed.

and flavour-claim does not even mean smurf.

so get out with that

[pirate mollie]

I've already full claimed;

I've no intent to pander to nonsense like "seems town ENOUGH" MEANS IT WAS A TOWN READ PERIOD.

NAH, NIGGA. NAH.

I hinted and you picked up on it correctly.

But that's none of my business though
.

NO.

[pirate mollie]

I basically claimed and Mollie called my hint adorable iirc, and now I'm confirming that her guess was correct.

That's the same as claiming in my book.

you claimed andy murray.

like YOU SAID IT.

no guessing was involved.

cos you have divulged not a thing but posturing that you have. COS FLAVOUR CLAIMS DON"T MEAN A THING.

^ PLZ LYNCH THIS

[pirate mollie]

Not the fucking flavor. I flat out said my character because I know it means jack.

I hinted my ability when speaking to mollie.

She guessed correctly.

I told her she was right.

Ergo, to her, I claimed. Its not a hard premise.

you did no such thing.

I have no idea what your role is but I sure as smurf know mine.

I think you are scum.

period. end of story.

[pirate mollie]

no prob.

Though you are technically sheeping Mr and Mrs. Mollie 'cause we though his slot was scum back when it was Not Mafia.

qft

mollie <3 nero

I WOULD believe HI if I have seen scum fakeclaim this very same role 3 times. funniest was when rainbowdash claimed a fake guilty on timeeater.

do you think you could give us readslist HI?

[pirate mollie]

@ HI

if you are town when you give a readslist you help town. you may be mad that you are getting lynched but you still have a wc to meet and even if you are lynched you can still possibly win with town.

the only players who I have seen who refused to give a readslist was scum or truly awful players who don't usually last long. I don't currently have you in the truly awful category cos I think you understand that this is a team game and since you have 3 kids I would think you would have enough maturity to not have a spiteful meltdown that only ensures you getting lynched.

@ tso - I kinda felt the same way about mom but there is really only 1 player on this site whom I could get into such a nitpicky pointless argument over languaging with that leaves me wanting to strangle them.

[pirate mollie]

yaye! kthnx has got this covered.

[pirate mollie]

@ tso - I kinda felt the same way about mom but there is really only 1 player on this site whom I could get into such a nitpicky pointless argument over languaging with that leaves me wanting to strangle them.

Isn't Nero already playing?

nah, I am not thinking of nero. I am not going to say who i think it is but I am not going to be too quick to call them scum anytime soon. I am not the best at reading them.

eta: HI when I am scum going down I just start quoting shakespeare

[pirate mollie]

if HI flips grpscum we are lynching joshb tomorrow.

DOES EEVER1 UNDERSTAND THE PLAN HERE??????

[pirate mollie]

I think kthx and tso genuinely think I'm scum but that means diddly if its multiball.

mollie is a firecracker and prob plays this eay all the time.

Does Majiffy always lay back and coast?

I'm not a fan of Nero or Coug and find their votes to be the worst of the bunch.

this is all I wanted you to do.

I have strong town vibes from kthnx and tso. yeah I have changed my mind I feel good about him being town now.

yes I always play like this. I am probably older than you think. I was playing for 4 years before I joined this site so join dates are not an indication of experience level and that is something I always keep in mind. I am used to playing in 12 and 24 hour formats and I am always an early nk on my other sites so I am used to trying to map the game out really quickly. but I totally get that it confuses people cos they have idea what they are looking at,

I think majiffy is town. I don't think he would give me props after spotting scum him in xmen and he does take it easy in early game when I am around when he is town cos he knows I won't let him get lynched and he knows that he can trust me on d1 to make a good call whether it is shouting down a town lynch or looking at the fringes on d1 and finding scum. I am by no means a mafia goddess there are plenty of people who are much better than I am in this very game. I would say that majiffy is an overall better player than I am cos he is much better at mid to late game analysis but needs more info which he doesn't have on d1. so he is probs just letting me do my thing here.

I hear you on td and ff creatures. td stands out cos he was all like, "I love you mollie" and at that point I would have expected town!td to rally around some1 who was pushing 1 of his top scumreads instead he didn't vote tso he started townreading him instead and that just does not make sense to me. I stand by town!ff read, ffe reached to me in a very big way early on which is something that I see town!ffe doing. also little personality tells like him calling me the original mom cos I have had to use the mom voice on him a couple of times. <-----town are more themselves cos they don't have to wear a mask. mom has a point that scum are more likely to be more careful in their posts, and she knows I will take what she says under consideration and I am. I disagree with her angles but that is not particularly shocking.

I am still not getting what I need from strangerkitty. I am still unsure about nero I flip flop back and forth on the 2. titus's sk obsession is worrisome cos you know who worries about sk's it is scum that is who. but it is entirely possible that she really thinks you are an sk and I am seeing other towntells in her.

your role claim really is what is making wonder if you could be grpscum cos I have only see grpscum claim this role. I don't think I have actually ever seen an fbi agent in a game except mebbe adventure time but I would have to go back and look.

do you have anything else? what are your thoughts on joshb?

this is a reach out btw. I wanna see how you feel when I try to get close.

townreading endz thing.

[pirate mollie]

Or he's just lying.

It could really be that simple.

Why would you fakeclaim FBI agent?

Thats like the worst fakeclaim ever.

Like at least if you fakeclaim cop or something theres an incentive to keeping you around, or you get to draw out a relevant CC.

I just want to address this cos I have seen it happen. 3 times. I was on a scumteam once where some1 was wanting to do this. in a micro .

I have also seen town lynch a lyncher's target claim after fakeclaiming a cop role. they were scum. <----- this happened in a game I was in.

but I do see your points but I freely admit I have a bias in that area cos of the previous which is why I am dancing with him.

[pirate mollie]

Josh_B is playing the same town game he played in Micro 237. That's the entire base of my read.

Other thoughts? I'm glad WayItEnds is speaking logically. That's a town on defense vs. what Mom was doing earlier.

okay, was joshb this lurky?

also I was hoping that the enticing "within the hour" you would have given me more.

UNVOTE: hostile intent

mom was attacking how I reason things out which I find kind of townish from her. during those exchanges I was scumreading you so I was viewing it through a chainsaw defense lens at the time but you have produced some posts that make sense from a town mindset so she might not be chainsawing but merely attacking how I am working things out. townish.

talk to me about rach. cos you haven't mentioned her when she gave a blasé "I see you now understand why I am voting him" AFTER some stuff happened and I would think she would have commented on it in order to strengthen her case.

[pirate mollie]

VOTE: hostile intent

[pirate mollie]

okay

[pirate mollie]

Mollie. In case you're town. thanks for this touching, and dramatic story. It's wonderful that you bring up MantisDreamz, such a wonderful player. I have had a chance to play with her, She kills me every time, lol. But alas, while we are here reminiscing about the golden years, this game is still very much ongoing and still relatively new. So as we look at this game, you are completely nonsensical and further posts continue to contradict earlier posts that you are making. Rather than tell me these irrelevant stories about you're experience with mafia, (which I do appreciate you taking the time to think about and share with me) can you answer some in game questions that you seem to be avoiding. For instance, what's the point of asking Lucky2 which alignment he likes to play? And why did you want Orange/Yellow to answer for you?

does she really kill you? lol. <---- could be a lol reference unless you are willing to cough up a forum game.

show me the game.

cos people's preferences as far as alignment goes sometimes demonstrates the alignment that they prefer. ika is doing the same thing by asking colour preferences. I am unsure on them cos it feels like they are just going through the motions at key points.

wat are you even talking about with orange/yellow. like when did I mention orange or yellow.

[pirate mollie]

UNVOTE: hostile intent

[pirate mollie]

.... I had you as town for awhile, but you kept acting super scummy, so I reconciled my conflicting reads by deciding it was multiball.

You continue to post horribly. Under the assumption that we are not in multiball if you are so sure I am scum you should be voting me, not HI. Because there's no way a reasonable person could see me and HI as scum together.

Your vote is still on HI, you are scum.

I think the timing of your read change is what makes you look scummy.

I think thee might be a good chance that HI is town. I have meditated on it and while I originally thought that his saying that me spotting his soft cop claim is scummy I am wondering if it is coming from self-conscious town.

his whole comment to titus "you should fuck your face with your fist" fits more with his town meta than scum meta and I think he is legitimately trying.

bad lynch.

VOTE: tiphaine death

cos the cog-dis of his read progression on tso is awful.

[pirate mollie]

What information, aside from my role, do you learn from my lynch that you wouldn't learnn from his?

we would learn whether or not there was an sk in the game.

which we could figure out already based on the # of nks unless the sk chooses not to nk which I have seen done in a game once the tracker and watcher were dead.

what do you think of joshb now?

cos that post was horrible.

[pirate mollie]

Fuck. I wanted to crop it for the question. Whatever.

I think my metaread on Josh_B may have been incorrect, but I should stress its not because he's scumreading me. That's fine. Its the format and lets-talk-about-everything style of the post. It just reads weird to me. Also, I don't think you're scum so I don't know where the last bit came from; however, I also never went back and properly read the game. Is he mentioning something that happened earlier there (aside from the not the mafia comment)?

I meant that joshb's post was horrible not yours.

strangely, you are growing on me.

he thinks I am scum (it was an early read) and has not budged. I find scum to be stickier with their scum reads as opposed to town who are usually more fluid with the info they have gleaned from in-thread play. his push on me at this point in the game does not make sense.

[pirate mollie]

nero seems way too happy and I am uncomfortable with this.

[pirate mollie]

is td dead yet

[pirate mollie]

I guess not

[pirate mollie]

MOLLLLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

do you need some attention?

where have you been?

[pirate mollie]

I've been doing anything-but-reading-larges.

How's it going? What's the situation with the two lynch candidates? Why should I be voting TD?

The shorter and more succinct you can answer my questions, the more likely I'll respond!

sorry cam had to get on the computer.

I think td's read progression of tso is awful. when we were running him td was all like "omg he might be town" and didn't vote him".

HI's meta checks out but I have not played with him before so weak meta read. do you remember td being this active in xeno?

[pirate mollie]

eta: cos I sure as hell don't.

[pirate mollie]

.... I decided tso was town because of HI's jump on jump off made HI scum, then I decided they were both scum later. DERP.

I am fairly certain I am not the 1 derping here.

what was that whole "I fucking love you mollie" post:

Yes, fucking yes, mollie I love you.

about. cos at that point you thought that tso was scum or at least that is what you indicated. I mean I am not sure how else to take that comment and HI didn't vote tso until 40 minutes later.

you could have sheeped my vote onto tso when you made that comment, that is the problem.

when I asked you about it you were all like "I thought tso looked town!" when with that comment that is not what you indicated in the least.

it looks like you were hedging your bets on tso getting lynched and not you. when there was an appetite for HI scum you hopped on as soon as the opportunity presented it itself but now you are saying that tso is back to scum when tso did not do a thing during the 40 minutes when I was trying to drive a wagon on him but somehow you read him as town during the 40 minutes enough not to vote him?

fuck that shit. you need to die.

[pirate mollie]

td was not at all that active in Xeno, and he was scum, granted I was also scum but the other team. Was totally amazed that our last guy (bro) was able to hold out long enough for us to win that game.


For those who want to check that game out

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=28572

it was also multiball, do you think that had something to do with it?

I don't meta by pattern matching, I am looking at the way he reasons things out. in that game nacho had him as town and I thought it was dumb but went along with it cos I don't know td well enough.

the cog-dis was bad, and THAT is why I thought he might have been scum in that game. are you following me?

I am asking majiffy cos I am wondering if majiffy even noticed him in that game, but thanks for answering for majiffy!

[pirate mollie]

.... See when, you made that vote no one had been paying attention to me all game and finally someone was voting the guy who I was 100% convinced was scum.

Then the HI thing happened, and I became convinced he was town again.

Then he continued to be a useless scummy fucker and I realized we're in multiball.

0 cognitive dissonance, I don't know why you're having problems following my train of thought but it aint that hard.

but you were around long enough to make the "fucking yes mollie yes!" post so I am asking you again, why did you not vote him then and there?

[pirate mollie]

I'm scum because I misread and jumped on a perceived scumslip? Yeah, you know what I've had just about enough of your BS. VOTE: TSO.

oh yeah you did.

my bad.

[pirate mollie]

I am so glad to have you here and clear up that there are only 2 scum but 1 more mebbe.

put me in the sour category cos I think your batter is bitter.

[pirate mollie]

I fail to see how you could have much of any read on me given that I have not had much of a presence in the game at all. When I am caught up, I wish to run through your reads and see where the divide is. This old lady's memory fails her if you have played with me under this name, but I can assure you if not that we can work rather well together and have in the past.

your lack of presence is what worries me!

no, we haven't played together (but I am pretty old too, and cannot rely on memory alone which has already been proven itt).

I want to tho!

[pirate mollie]

It would help me greatly if you could give an updated version of the list now, with what is the same and what has changed.

I am having that moment that nero must have felt when muffina said, "here is a ball. go fetch" in xmen.

BUT I THINK KTHNX IS TOWN HE FINALLY DID STUFF. AND FTR I KNOW WHAT I SAID.

you make things fun syrup thing.

but still your lynch list is

tiny

.

eta: respect aj. I think you can be sorted out in other ways.

did you know that some people thought you were reck?

[pirate mollie]

also to clear up any confusion aj is NOT reck.

[pirate mollie]

~mollie's updated readslist ~

soooo hydra partners first:

majiffy - unsure cos he is not giving anything to feed me. I still more than likely lean town tho. mom will sort him out.
nero - I am liking nero. is this bad? I get where he is coming from and sometimes it has been disturbing from operating on a scumnero!track. he is deeply unsure. like really unsure.
garmr - unsure. his goading seems kind of townish tho but if a strong player flipped I would not rule out coaching.
ff creatures - who are these people where did they go

players who might as well be hydras:

d3x - town. like I do not even have to think twice about it.
kthnx -this has changed cos he got pretty invested with the mom argument. I think think town.
titus - she goes in that category cos we have f2f experience. xmen was a giant wake-up call. I think i am spotting some town glimmers. so light townread. <--- freaking unsure except her paranoia levels are high. lean town. that read is the same but she seems to be interested in lynching an indie rather than killing scum.
ika - where is beast in this hydra? I am not feeling him at all.

players that I am familiar with:

rach marie - unsure, the hostile intent vote made sense at the time but I did not like when I questioned her about it she was all like, "I see you got why I voted him!". lynchbait ugh.
strangerkitty - I am still ugh on strangerkitty. can I still say that?
perv - pretty sure he is past prod dodges now!
tso - I think is town? mebbe? I dunno he is slippery.
IaI - not givig up a thing other than pbpa. I lean scum.
wake - unsure. it is hard to tell cos I think he might have absorbed the feedback given him but I am not ready to put him in my town pile altho my earlier scumread on him if kthnx is town was pretty dumb but I will still stubbornly hold onto that tell.
lucky - is this person even playing the game
td - I wanna remark here that perv never got back to us on this

hhhhhhmmmm....

. read still stands. have at it. omg he is in the lynch lead, what shld a girl do? he sometimes reads as genuine. I am voting him so have at it.

players I have no experience with:

syrup thing - I am leaning town but I get the feeling she is crafty. won't lynch her.
mom - pretty sure I want to murder her! and no i am not scum or a vig so cross that off your list.
yiley - is there a replacement yet?
josh - mebbe bad town, he is a lurker and I think shld be exhumed.
hostile intent - meta read (and it is weak cos it is second hand info and I do NOT have a grasp of his understanding) mebbe town. that is why I am not voting him right now.
endz thing - he looks so town. and that is my weak spot cos he looks SO FREAKING TOWN. will probs get weird on him.

[pirate mollie]

Where as, I'm pretty sure HI is town.

But like... I'm sorta just using him as SK bait?

do you agree with td's reads then moreso than HI's?

[pirate mollie]

Why no read on me mollie?

I have you as town.

Mollie, are you scum?

you will gain zero traction with this cos I am really really not. I am freaking pretty town.

Mollie it appears to me that your transaction with TD recently should give you pause on your read. Are you still certain TD is scum?

nope.

where have you been?

I don't blame you for getting weird on me tho but I also feel like you shld be understanding why. I have stepped away from the computer for reasons.

@Mollie, I'll take confirmed indie over probable scum in FF. I think TD is just xmen redone so I'm not voting there. I'd rather reduce the body count. We can do quite well when dealing with only one faction or the other.

okay but when I am scum I am pretty wildy obsessed with sks, I am obsessed with indies simply cos I love playing indie and unlike 80% of this site prefer to work with them altho sks not being compatible on here changes things. I just don't think it is likely that HI will flip sk like I can't even absorb the reasoning here. the fakeclaims of fbi agents who have flipped grpscum not indie.

but they're not. that's the happy thing about this.

this is the kind of posturing that I was talking about that seems to come from scum!you. you make posts that sometimes feels town but sometimes you make these posts where it is nothing but pure posturing and I am wondering if this is a scum!tell for you in the way you are going about it. I am putting you in the mebbe town category for *reasons*.

Mollie

it appears to me that your transaction with TD recently should give you pause on your read. Are you still certain TD is scum?

ffs.

TSO is scum
He is Scum With SC
Mollie might actually be scum with these two but I'm not sure yet

HI is scum
TWIE is probably scum with him, but I could be wrong here.

FF's recent switch on to the HI wagon makes me think he is not scum. I suppose in the vein of following Nero's advice I would vote him if the only option was between voting him and getting lynched myself, but he's definitely a town read right now. Scum FF has no motivation not to be on me, no matter which side he is rolling for.

I think if you are town you shld do a hard reset on a couple of your reads and not think any1 who thinks you are scum is or votes you is scum. cos I know my role pm have been dealing with other things and I am not scum. I was working with d3x my top town read and kthnx who jumped up there. it is interesting that they are sus of each other tho.

Josh I posted a TD scum game. Xeno. I could probably find more of both scum and town TD, we have been in a few games before. I am not totally sold he is scum though in this one, I need to read his ISO here and in the other games. I plan on doing that this weekend before the dental appointment on Tues.

Right now though I have to put together a few boxes for the move. (I put them together and NS packs them full of books.) We have 3 floor to ceiling bookcases FULL of books to pack and that is not even all of our books lol).

^town

Ok what the fuck Mollie

addressed this.

Let me be extremely clear so that there can be no misconstruction of anything I say.

Get. Bent.

If you are by some act of a morally ambiguous, bored, easily amused, god-figure town, you are one of the worst town players I have ever seen. Almost every word out of your mouth, every sentence and every post is some type of defensive play, misrepresentation, useless "scum hunting," or an attempt to be cute and amusing so you are less likely to get lynched because people like you.

I detest your play style, your posting style, and your complete ignorance of fact. I can hope for nothing more than that the rest of the town realizes what utter shit you are and feeds your rope post haste.

Sincerely, TD.

aaaaand townflail spotted.

UNVOTE: TiphaineDeath

also step back.

plz.

I am flat out, out of patience with comments like this these days which shld say a lot about how much I have changed. the only thing that bugs me is that if you think that he was scum you shld know that he is playing to his wc if he is getting you riled up. cos that is what he would want as scum, cos the majority of players do not know how to tell the difference between the of difference townflail and scumflail and will lynch you cos you are a leading wagon.

majiffy is probably not worried about me about for the same reasons as you. he will readjust cos I am here.

cool down.

in other newz I am quite unhappy with the disappearance of aj and mom. neither are the best lynches for today tho. so if you guyz try to do some weird last minute lynch on them tho I will violently oppose it.

[pirate mollie]

I dunno moll, how should I be responding to all this BS? None of the things against me make sense, I've refuted them multiple times, logic has failed me, so all I have left is indiscriminate rage.

I don't like being this way, it's not fun, I'll see if I can tone it down.

Sorry.

ftr I am not offended cos I am not easily offended. but I do get there sometimes and when I do I soooooo do.expect epic meltdown. and it really isn't excusable but the pressure cooker environment of the mafia game in general can cause meltdowns.

oh I get town rage. I get it on steroids. I just see where you are at and empathise and I am trying to talk you down from the ledge. I think we are on the same team.

HI quite honestly seems like he is feeling the same way as you but ffs I wish the well was not poisoned by previous fakeclaims of that role.

/wifom. cos I am doing it to myself.

I think some of my reads are wrong. I get where you are with tso, I really really do. I get the strangerkitty argument cos I was there. <---- I am trying to work it out cos I can get weird on both of them.

jackal has made a poast. 1.

a promise to a catchup poast. that has not been posted.

but the times I have pushed a late lynch not on the leading wagons have not gone too well except with my kuribo hydra. but this was a point where d3x and I intersected.

[pirate mollie]

How does one go from not trying to be townread to being everyones friend?

I'm trying to have fun while I play a game, not defame someones character and fake aggression.

I'm sorry Molls but you're vehemently wrong.

what exactly am I wrong about plz remind cos I am so often I sometimes forget.

[pirate mollie]

Josh I posted a TD scum game. Xeno. I could probably find more of both scum and town TD, we have been in a few games before. I am not totally sold he is scum though in this one, I need to read his ISO here and in the other games. I plan on doing that this weekend before the dental appointment on Tues.

Right now though I have to put together a few boxes for the move. (I put them together and NS packs them full of books.) We have 3 floor to ceiling bookcases FULL of books to pack and that is not even all of our books lol).

Thanks. I'll check it out. But if I can't find something better to do with my vote, it's probably going to stay.

^ if I had my way this would be dead. he is flat out vote-parking and every1 is letting him get away with it. his reasons for voting me don't even make sense and there are 50 players who know me telling him i am town and that I am not going to get lynched but he is willing to risk a no-lynch with a throw away vote that will never get support. I think he is scum trying to play it safe.

will you people me you will lynch him tomorrow, plz?

cos I don't think we will be able to pull of a quicklynch before dl.

I will compromise on ff creatures. I looked at organic chemistry and he did a couple of slimey things in that game which puts the reasons for my read on him to null. I think if they are town then they will get mislynched eventually and if they are scum then that will put mom in my scum pile and I think the sooner we that get that slot sorted the better off we will be. also I think ff creatures are trying to lurk out their wagon.

I think td and HI are both most likely town mebbe. td is the stronger townread. put majiffy in the same category as d3x. actually is probs a stronger townread than d3x. majiffy is defo town. <---- don't touch him ever.

@ tso

I know you know what posturing means. it is just something I know you do as scum and I don't remember you doing it as town. it is a weak relative tell and not very reliable. I have liked a ton a things of things you have said but eh. I prefer to meta through how they reason things out. some people I can get in a very short time and some people it takes years. it just depends on the player.

re: nero - I think nero is a great player. I think his is being mean to me is just his way of flirting. so i am not sure why you are putting him down. what does stand out is that it kind of looks like he knows that td is town but eh, I could be misreading that. he is unsure.

when I interact with you I keep finding myself treating you as town.

I keep getting the feeling that scum are completely hanging back and that is why my reads are getting thrown a bit. I do have a pretty good town pile tho I think.

re: outing seekrit alts.

plz don't do this it is bad form. people are seekrit alts for a reason.

with all that said and done:

VOTE: FFAE00 FFED00

you get your way, majiffy! <3

[pirate mollie]

oops, the bold was supped to be "will you people promise me"

I need to start proofreading.

[pirate mollie]

^ if I had my way this would be dead. he is flat out vote-parking and every1 is letting him get away with it. his reasons for voting me don't even make sense and there are 50 players who know me telling him i am town and that I am not going to get lynched but he is willing to risk a no-lynch with a throw away vote that will never get support. I think he is scum trying to play it safe.

will you people me you will lynch him tomorrow, plz?

I promise. Because Mollie has had a lot of good ideas this game.

I look forward to your self-vote!!1! \o/

[pirate mollie]

1. my vote is on a wagon that has 6 other votes. One of which is PirateMollies.

If PirateMollie is town, the current wagon that I'm on contains at least one other town and is supporting a town wincon.
If TiphaineDeath is town, both PirateMollie and myself are supporting a scum wincon by attempting to lynch a town player.
If TiphaineDeath is scum, my "voteparking" increases the likelyhood of others to support a wagon on scum during the Zero Hour Compromise which is starting now. (<3 days left in this DP)

oh I didn't realise you had moved your vote to ff creatures! my bad. do you actually think they are scum? cos i don't reeeeeally remember you pushing any case.

2. A throw away vote- any vote that does not support the town lynching a player.

covered this.

I think everyone knows the definition of a throw away vote. PirateMollie is my vanity wagon. But it doesn't have enough support, and my vote isn't on PirateMollie at this time.

covered this.

3. Exaggeration at it best. But I admit, there are a few players in this game that have said they don't want to lynch Mollie today.

congratulations! you know the definition of exaggeration since there aren't even 50 players in the game. good job I guess?

4. It is actually gaining support. If not today, then tomorrow or the next day. #oneaday

erm...who is supporting it exactly?

5. Fuck the players that say Mollie is town. They're probably scum. I'm doing my own thing (which is probably going to get me lynched because some of the player that say mollie is town have a lot more clout and experience with PirateMollie's nonsense) Safety That!

actually my point is that going off on a vanity wagon and attempting to get someone lynched despite other people saying it's not going to happen is not playing it safe and Mollie is saying things that aren't true.

yes. all the players who say i am town and are treating me as town are scum. they are ALL my scummates protecting me. who are these players exactly? what no list?

I am trying to sort things and it is pretty obvs! what are you doing? except giving a generalised surface level accusation that "all the players who are calling mollie town are probs scum" yet not giving a list or scumhunting any of them?

lol.

@ nero

okay. I don't get why tso is calling you a bad player. ty for the link tho.

td's meltdown looks townish to me. why don't you think it looks that way?

[pirate mollie]

Please? Look I'll even go first. VOTE: SC

We'll do SC tomorrow. Like a flash wagon on him wouldn't work and would only contribute to a nl. We need flips to solve.

but also Mollie I don't know that TD is town.

okay then it was a miscommunication. problem solved!

[pirate mollie]

If they really are town they should not be self voting and then claiming SS when they were not at L-1 with Intent on them.

Seems fishy to me

I don't think i believe the claim either.

if ff creatures flips scum plz look up at mom her interactions with them looks like scum scum scum and more scum on top of that.

[pirate mollie]

@ HI - what made you choose majiffy as an sk?

[pirate mollie]

Vote:Josh

I am not comprehending your vote. It seems entirely disjointed from most of your thoughts today, particularly since I do not see the issue with Joshy at all.

aj I like you but if you are going to hard defend josh you and I are gonna fight.

VOTE: josh

[pirate mollie]

I am not happy with sc either.

nero what are your other reads

[pirate mollie]

oh its YOU

[pirate mollie]

Ok. scum and town reads. I'm not sure how I feel about everyone, so this will be a good exercise for me.

Town-
Josh_B
TheWayItEnds
Aunt Jemina
Nero Cain
RachMarie
Mom
PeregrineV
Garmr
T S O
I Am Innocent
_______Waffly___________
Majiffy
d3x
Pine (replaces inte)
DrCirno (replaces Wake88)
I have no creativity
Titus
Kthxbye
Jackal711 (replaces Yiley)
pirate mollie
House (replaces Lucky2u)
StrangerCoug
Hostile Intent (replaces Not the mafia)
TiphaineDeath

Hmm. some of these waffel reads have to do with inactivity. Some of them are kind of associative, but they're all mixed in. I'd vote any of the bottom six unquestionably.
Jackal is definitely a Policy Lynch(at this time) that will move up or down depending on his replacement, but he gets put ahead of the others because I have more of a scum read on everyone below that.

StrangerCoug actually never got moved up or down from his placement in the "living Players" His name in the bottom six looks the worst to me. But I'm not sure where I would move him in comparison to other players.

I'll take suggestions from anyone that wants this list to change in some way. I'm not going to budge on Pirate Mollie being in my own personal scum tier. After reading a few of her past games, I know that town Mollie is no stranger to being called nonsensical, But I've haven't found a game yet where she wanted to start a fight with someone over one of her scum reads, except this one. And I'm taking into account that she has a lot of games which I haven't read, but over all I'm still sticking to the fact that this game, her play doesn't line up with the town play that I've seen so far.

I really want to get this straight: how many games have you read? what were the games you read? they could not have been many.

[pirate mollie]

I don't sk hunt when I am scum in the game thread I do it in my wb/qt/pt. and let my partners know who I think the sk is.

I find it interesting that garmr is trying to peg me as scum when titus is blatantly trying to lynch HI cos she thinks he is the sk. how bizarre.

I don't really give a fuck about this game there should have been prods issued out a long time ago and if the mod doesn't care than neither do I. the only reason I have a pulse in this game is cos of d3x and kthnx whom I think are both town.

like there is only so much stupidity I can handle before I just check out.

you guyz might as well lynch me cos more than likely I am going to replace out due to mod inactivity.

[pirate mollie]

Garmr stop reaching. I am not the type of scum people coach ever. You and House both jump on Mollie despite me wanting the sk dead.

I am scumhunting. I didn't sk hunt ftr. When the sk up and claims, you lynch it.

Mollie is town knock it off.

Okay, what is your case for Mollie being town?

how about you present a case on why you think I am scum?

you can't be bothered to read the game yet leap on the bs garmr is trying to push. garmr is a hydra partner who knows better than any1 how lazy I can get when the mod is lazy themselves. he is trying to make stupid associative tells that really have no place like they are not even remotely real and you are somehow buying this dumbshit????

he thinks I am coaching titus. that I am coaching titus into voting some1 for being an sk while supposedly highlighting multiball on d1.

the stupidity of this is pretty astounding.

when is the last time mom posted?

aj's reads are anemic.

^ these are the 2 players you need to watch.

but by all means continue being stupid I /accept your apology beforehand.

[pirate mollie]

What does that mean in idiot-speak?

What would stop scum-Mollie or SK-Mollie from fakeclaiming FBI Agent?

I didn't do either you retard

[pirate mollie]

Let's just lynch this and sort things out tomorrow.

VOTE: pirate mollie

Sorry for the absence. My internet stopped working on the 12th and it took them two weeks to schedule a tech to come out and look at it.

I concur with this.

I am going to scumhunt off of my wagon like I am on steroids.

[pirate mollie]

@garmr

1. I am NOT the 1 who brought it up. josh was the first person and then there was discussion about it and then majiffy was like, "I am not feeling the schism that is often found in multiball" to d3x. <--- this all took place in this game. before I fucking even mentioned multiball. so you are being disngenuous as fuck right now.
2. I cannot believe you are honestly trying to push a "tell" on me when we have 1 completed game together and 1 hydra game that you bailed on cos got banned in the middle of it. so pretend that you know me better than some of the other people in the game. this is more disingenuous bullshit.

your case is shit. and you are

lying

. what I can't figure out is if it is intentional or not.

I am pissed right now not cos I am getting wagoned but cos we are probably looking at 3 or 4 more replacements who won't bother to read the game and probably do something dumb like house who is voting me cos he thinks I claimed fbi agent.

[pirate mollie]

d3x I love you.

[pirate mollie]

1. Type multi into the search engine you pop up first and josh doesn't.

so this post did not come up?:

I'm getting a feeling of "I'm right and you're wrong" from some of the recent posters that is really exasperating me. Majiffy is right; this game feels dead in the water.

This is the stalling I usually get multiball vibes from.

^ cos there is this word "multiball" that your sophisticated word search skills somehow missed. mebbe the problem is how you are searching out the term and not that I am the only 1 mentioning multiball. so you are being very disingenuous.

2 Yeh and you pretend I should know better

context wise this does not even make sense.

Implies I have more knowledge than most. So why am I more knowledgeable in this situation but in the next post?

yes you have knowledge that I can lazy in gmaes if I am dealing with overwhelming stupidity or I don't have chemistry with the playerlist.

Quite a change in tone here. I'm some one who wouldn't know shit, you try emotional manipulation painting me as a villain because now your trying to push scum reads on people who are pushing you (Josh B and now me you already killed vezok since he was harder to push as scum)

I am not scum reading you I just think you are really this stupid.

you know 1 aspect of my townplay. cos we were a hydra and we were both town. you don't know my scumgame cos we have never played a game where I was scum. so no, you have zero meta-knowledge of my scumgame. also vezo never read me as scum he knows that I will be sorted through night actions if I am eventually am and I had him as strong town.

Pretty bold declaring your intention to scum hunt off your wagon shows a need to try and survive by focusing on those that are scum reading you.

Also more ate really mollie please stop using your charm to try and win over town instead of logic you sweet talker you :p.

holy jesus mother mary of christ do you even know what "scumhunt off my wagon" even fucking means? it is the opposite of survivalism. it means that I am going to leave a trail for town when I flip town.

and are you really coming at me with an aTe case after your play on d1? are you really a worthless piece of hypocritical shit or are you really this dumb or are you scum? I am leaning a combination of the first 2 since arguments that are this bad usually comes from town.

I personally do not care if I am lynched or not. I am rarely mislynched in games but your stupidity, the massive amounts of lurking/not playing makes the game unenjoyable. if you are scum then you have done an outstanding job of looking like a VI and getting townread for it.

I am ignoring you from here on out.

[pirate mollie]

I do apologize yet again for my absence; I was not aware such great time had passed since my last post. Thus, I assure you, I will in fact be able to catch up...simply not this Friday, as this old lady does partake in festivities. I will get caught up this Saturday, I assure you.

Back from my business trip late Wednesday. Should be caught up this weekend.

I love these 2 players but this is what is wrong with this game.

Look I'm sorry to make you upset mollie but I'm actually scum reading you and I didn't mean anything in a personal way.

you are scumreading me cos you are a dummy who decided that word searching "multi" was more valuable than searching "multiball" in the game thread. like you fucking need to pause here.

like I just showed you a quote from majiffy that you apparently missed from your sooper dooper sleuthing skills and d3x pointed out a post from josh that you apparently missed there is a huge chunk of discussion you are missing probably cos you were too busy aTe-ing around cos you were strung up.

^ this is why I think you are a hypocrite.

skype mafia does not = forum mafia.

you are the second thing that is wrong with this game.

[pirate mollie]

I think the attitude your taking about things is whats wrong not this game. Seriously even through we have had a lot of lurkers it's not the mods fault that happened and sometimes real life stuff happens and getting replacements for large games with a lot of pages is harder than minis.

Mollie people will scum read you it's part of the game. If me making a mistake in searching is whats wrong with the game I am sorry for being human. Also I am not ate the only thing I consider close to a ate would be the incident with ff because he was being a dick.

You know you actually made me feel guilty before because I thought i was being to harsh but now I really don't care mollie. If portraying another person as dumb, using emotional blackmail is all your going to do I really just don't care.

Also I haven't missed out on any of the discussion on day 2 I don't think josh B or HI is scum which seems to be a opinion of a couple. I would agree with a house lynch through as I feel he may be scum.

Btw the only one ateing day 2 is you I'd rather forgot my ate day 1 with ff even through it wasn't intentional it's not something I'm proud of.

lurkers/not playing the game players are a problem. period end of story.

I have not used emotional blackmail on you nor have I painted myself as a victim unless feeling victimized by your stupidity counts.

you are being dumb AND disingenuous and

lying

the latter is something I can't tell if is deliberate or not. <----- I already said this.

so ffe was being a dick to you on d1 and somehow this dismisses you aTeing around but somehow me aTeing over you making a dickish move where you can't even use the search function correctly nor go back to see what you have missed and man up to the fact that you were wrong is somehow scummy?

GET THE FUCK OUT WITH THIS BULLSHIT

[pirate mollie]

I mean God, if he had simply asked me to read HI's ISO instead of jump all in my shit over faulty assumptions, all that drama could have been avoided.

If he's town, he's terribad.

P-Edit: Okay.

is your vote on me cos you still think that I claimed fbi agent?

if you are town then THAT is terribad.

[pirate mollie]

TWIE, Garmr, TSO.

I think one reason is because I disagree with you about hi being a serial killer but do you have any other reasons for me being scum. I been hearing me been called scum a bit yet no one except Dex has actually put a vote on me.

Your pathetic reason on Mollie coaching me is another. Plus there is your general misrep. You got a lot of votes yesterday.

I am keeping my vote in the place to reduce KPN.

Talking about misreps
Alot of votes lol

Yiley-a rvs
the way it ends
and I have no creativity
FFAE00 FFED00
So a grand total of 3 votes that weren't rvs in over 60 pages and not all at once.

You caught me titus I was the mother flipping counter wagon all day long.

^ this is how dumb you are.

there were more votes on you than that some people unvoted.

however you are doing your searches it is pretty fucking faulty and if you don't do some self-corrective behaviour I AM going to start thinking you are scum cos any1 with a town role pm would at the very least consider how fucked up their approach to the game was by now.

[pirate mollie]

I mean God, if he had simply asked me to read HI's ISO instead of jump all in my shit over faulty assumptions, all that drama could have been avoided.

If he's town, he's terribad.

P-Edit: Okay.

You sheeped my case on mollie brahIf your saying i'm terribad what does that make you.

he isn't even fucking talking about you

are you drunk? cos I will give you time to sober up and either readjust or give this discussion space cos you are shitting up the game right now and it will make it impossible for the lurkers/non active players/replacements to catch up and figure things out.

like srsly STFU

[pirate mollie]

I mean God, if he had simply asked me to read HI's ISO instead of jump all in my shit over faulty assumptions, all that drama could have been avoided.

If he's town, he's terribad.

P-Edit: Okay.

You sheeped my case on mollie brahIf your saying i'm terribad what does that make you.

Inexperienced. I never claimed to be Einstein.

You weren't being a dick, and you at least made sense.

Wtf is a brahlf, Mr. Awesome?

so garmr made sense when it has been demonstrated that he does NOT know how to use the search function? and has been proven wrong?

VOTE: house

eta: so were you calling garmr terribad yes or no

[pirate mollie]

Wow, you are incredibly petty.

Reach moar, that dumb shit isn't worth my time.

so it is petty to point out that the player you think makes the most sense in this game doesn't know how to use a search function and that you (stupidly believed) that I claimed fbi agent?

mebbe some day I can grow to be ans awsum mafia player like you! \o/ <---- now see this is petty. you seem to be confused so I thought I would help you out!

[pirate mollie]

Wow, you are incredibly petty.

Reach moar, that dumb shit isn't worth my time.

so it is petty to point out that the player you think makes the most sense in this game doesn't know how to use a search function and that you (stupidly believed) that I claimed fbi agent?

mebbe some day I can grow to be ans awsum mafia player like you! \o/ <---- now see this is petty. you seem to be confused so I thought I would help you out!

Molly your clogging the thread with this stuff at least I have been expressing my opinions about different players You are making it hard for the lurker and replacements to catch up.

my god you are so right it is almost like I am not reinforcing my case on house whom I am voting for!

GET THE FUCK OUT WITH YOUR BULLSHIT

[pirate mollie]

Wow, you are incredibly petty.

Reach moar, that dumb shit isn't worth my time.

Echo is all that is worth.

you never answered my question you dismissed it with "oh you are petty"

you sheeped a player who has demonstrated that he knows fucking clue how to use the search function and you are still voting me cos you think that I claimed fbi agent, yeah?

saying some1 is "making the most sense" who's tactic of accumulating info is demonstrably wrong comes more from a scum mindset than a town 1.

[pirate mollie]

Wow, you are incredibly petty.

Reach moar, that dumb shit isn't worth my time.

Echo is all that is worth.

you never answered my question you dismissed it with "oh you are petty"

you sheeped a player who has demonstrated that he knows fucking clue how to use the search function and you are still voting me cos you think that I claimed fbi agent, yeah?

saying some1 is "making the most sense" who's tactic of accumulating info is demonstrably wrong comes more from a scum mindset than a town 1.

I will be happy to engage you further if you stop lying about what I said and correct your fallacious statement.

Until then, you can piss off.

would you like to point out where I am incorrect?

cos it is kind of hard when your response is "wow you are petty".

also I never said I had sooper dooper search skills but I know bad 1s when I see them.

garmr has gone after misrep after misrep how about you explain how he is making sense to you.

[pirate mollie]

Let's lynch pirate mollie, guys.

fuck off

I am going to make my wagon pure poison by the time I am through.

it is a shit wagon backed up by shit reasons which have been pointed out already.

[pirate mollie]

Solid comeback, ma'am.

and your "fuck offs" are so much better?

don't act like your shit doesn't stink cos it does.

at least I have the wit to look at the current stances and make a reasonable assessment of who is being opportunistic scum who is buddying up to dumb town.

I bet house will never respond with why he thinks garmr is making the most sense

[pirate mollie]

@Mollie

my primary case was that you acted different when searching for multiscum(more hyped getting in there) and for sk(more laid off approach). You bringing multiscum up which was wrong was only a point in my case not the whole case itself like your making it out to be. Also I'm not throwing misrep after misrep.

1-You accused me of many things

2-being stupid for not looking back(you didn't realize house unvoted you, and you said i missed the unvotes when I actually listed them all and went out your way to try and be insulting about it.)

3-being hypocritical(above points show that)

4-misrepping(you said i was saying that you were trying to coach titus to vote the sk, I said you were trying to get titus to get off the sk)

5-ate(...)

6-not reading back and missing out on things becuase i'm ate(you missed house unvote)

So can you explain what made you feel you need to hunt for multi scum earlier but not a sk when that was brought up?

I wasn't hunting for multiscum. <----- misrep number 1001.

I

always

question whether or not larges are multi-ball. josh brought it up and what majiffy said interested me

since he is the 1 who I got to start approaching larges like this in the first place

even tho he pointed out to me that larges were a fond fad of mod's these days.

some people don't like multiball or indies discussion but I do. for

me

to understand the gamestate globally and not pick up on false positives. idrc if I said anything about there being multiscum factions in this day round since there was only 1 nk. I think it is

reasonable

to assume that there is an sk but do you think they are a threat at this point? I don't think so cos either they skipped their nk or they got blocked OR a town blocker/doc protect interfered with scum's nk and vezo was the sk target. I doubt the latter cos vezo smelled like a special with his exchanges with aj lol, he flipped vt I bet scum didn't see that coming.

I looked back on your post where you tried to posit that I nked vezo cos...I couldn't push a lynch on him. while I was town reading him. oftentimes when some1 tries to point a nk in the direction of another player it is cos they themselves made the nk or their team.

if you are scum then you shouldn't be proud of your sledging. if you are town then I am chalking it up you being in stupid this game and learn from it. I will explain

why

I think you are capable of this level of stupidity from the dead qt cos I hope to god I am not alive for much longer.

@ tso - sorry I did not help you earlier with house. I simply wasn't seeing what you were seeing and there shld be some level of understanding here since how often do you see what I see? I feel like josh is scum for being super sticky with his most adamant scumread. I think titus

might

be scum for the same reason especially since there was only 1 nk. except that I know that titus can get very very stubborn sometimes so it is hard to tell. <--- that is the only reason I am giving her room.

@ d3x and kthnx - I tried. I really really did. I feel pretty strongly that you both are town. I am thinking aj is. pretty sure majiffy slot is and I am leaning nero is too mebbe.