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In post 2512, d3x wrote:
I feel like I've said this before... multiple times. I have HI as Town because I can't see him as Scum.
I refuse to believe that Fake Claiming FBI D1 makes any sense as GroupScum b/c I cannot fathom GroupScum calling in a hit on themselves by a potential SK out there. It's a terrible Fake Claim for GroupScum, especially D1 under no real pressure with no information leading to the lack of an SK.
There is no current evidence that there's an SK, so I find it unlikely {although not impossible} that he's an SK, either. I will reevaluate this if there ever turns up evidence that we have an SK. The mere existence of an FBI Agent doesn't even mean that there's an SK in play {per the wiki}.
Thus if for no other reason, PoE thus tells me that he's Town. I've asked for someone to refute this line of thinking, but I don't remember anyone putting up a logical argument more compelling than "derp, he's SK".
I have seen far stupider SK play. It's not very likely, but it's definitely possible that he's SK regardless of this.-
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In post 2529, d3x wrote:
That's fine, but can we save the SK hunt for when we have any evidence of an SK?In post 2526, Ankamius wrote:I have seen far stupider SK play. It's not very likely, but it's definitely possible that he's SK regardless of this.
I wasn't advocating an SK hunt at all. I was pointing out that logic isn't always correct in cases like this.
It's kind of obvious that there's some really important information I'm lacking right now. Can someone give me the rundown of whatever important shit happened this game so far?-
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In post 2686, d3x wrote:@Ank- D1 under meh pressure, HI Claimed FBI Agent. The Wagon shifted over to FF for... some reason. D2 started with a bunch of people instantly going after HI and HI Claiming a nonSK result on Majiffy. There was a lot of debate over SK Hunting versus Scum Hunting. After attempting and failing to be coy all frakking Day long, Titus was outted as a Tracker and she gave a result on HI visiting vezo {the only N1 Death}.
This makes the entire situation really simple. Unless someone can disprove something in this post, I don't see any reason why anyone should be against lynching HI unless they're scumbags with him.-
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In post 3202, Garmr wrote:If the Mafia Encryptor is doing the kills that means it's most likely 3 mafia and a sk as you wouldn't want your Encryptor caught by a watcher or tracker.
3 mafia and sk against 21 town?
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In post 3200, TiphaineDeath wrote:Oh, and scum def had daytalk, that's big.
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Hey. Garmr.
My last couple posts were on a tablet. Trying to type anything on it is like pulling teeth, so I cut as much out as I can to be able to post at all in any timely fashion. You no longer have any ground to try to discredit me based on that angle.
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Now that that's out of the way, one question before I go into it:
1. How exactly does her case relate to herself more than you?-
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In post 3238, StrangerCoug wrote:Too early in the Garmr-Ankamius argument to make a call, but it comes off weird in general—I'm not getting anything except they're slinging mud at each other. Expect me to keep an eye on both of them.
I don't understand what this post was meant to accomplish.-
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In post 3245, Josh_B wrote:With two goons dead and the encrypter making NK's I'm sorry that I ever brought up the possibility of multiball. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that the remaining scum are more likely to be better PR's.
This was exactly why IaI's posting on Garmr pinged me.-
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What I'm trying to figure out is why your response to her making a case on you today is to completely ignore it and try to discredit it entirely based on the SK-read. Your response is that she makes cases that apply more to herself than you. You haven't proven this correct in context to what I was asking. Instead, what you did was use that type of logic from previous day phases to discount an entire case on you made on THIS day phase without addressing it any way. This makes no sense and the way you immediately tried to discredit me when I pressured you on that post doesn't make me feel any better about it.-
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In post 3208, Ankamius wrote:In post 3200, TiphaineDeath wrote:Oh, and scum def had daytalk, that's big.
Go ahead and explain what you mean.
Going to clarify just because I think Kthx was responding to me before his VCA thing: I'm asking you about why scum having daytalk is big.-
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You completely missed the point of that post.
I'm trying to figure out your motivations for the posts right after the mollie case and that post explains why it doesn't from a town mindset.
I don't really care as much about the content itself. It doesn't matter how good of an answer you have to a question if the way you went about it is slimy.
I'm not on my tablet anymore, either. The post where I said I was is when I returned to my desktop.-
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In post 3259, Garmr wrote:This shows me your improvising.
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In post 3262, Garmr wrote:In post 3260, Ankamius wrote:
You completely missed the point of that post.
I'm trying to figure out your motivations for the posts right after the mollie case and that post explains why it doesn't from a town mindset.
I don't really care as much about the content itself.It doesn't matter how good of an answer you have to a questionif the way you went about it is slimy.
I'm not on my tablet anymore, either. The post where I said I was is when I returned to my desktop.
You haven't done anything to prove that comes from a scum mindset other than say it is. You talked about IAI faking a read about me and trying to say that makes me scum. But guess what he might be trying to set up a fake read on town in case they get lynched for brownie points. There is plenty of reasons to fake a read as scum. -_-
Also the post you said that you proved it doesn't come from a town mindset was that flail more scum?Because I thought mollie case was stupid and didn't think anyone was dumb enough to buy into it as it was very easy to prove wrong. Also you make the case out to be bigger than it was.
Scum's biggest problem after losing IaI is the SK. I can see scum wanting to wait on NKing Mollie on N3 (and not gunning for her on D3 when they could be getting that delicious Titus-towncred), then suddenly wanting to go back to it this day phase after losing Jemina to the bomb. The problem is that it's dangerous to do this too openly, as SK-hunting is scum-motivated. Stopping yourself from gaining suspicion from this is high up in the priority list as scum, so trying to discredit any suspicion that comes your way suddenly makes a lot more sense.
I specifically looked for faked town reads because we have two goons flipped. Unless this is a really low PR-count game, then chances are good that the majority of the rest of the scumteam are PRs. They're more important to keep alive than the goons, so trying to influence groupthink to get them as townreads is important.
I have no idea what you're saying in the bolded.
I don't believe that your statement after the bolded is why you posted the way you did. The way you posted sounded less like "Your case is bad, so get lynched" and more like "You're the SK, so your case is wrong."
In post 3262, Garmr wrote:In post 3261, Ankamius wrote:In post 3259, Garmr wrote:This shows me your improvising.
This is how I play as both alignments, btw.
So you don't think as town or scum great to know then your no big loss for future games.
Don't put words in my mouth. My gut works a lot faster than my brain does, so it takes time for me to be able to figure out why something is pegging me.-
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In post 3289, StrangerCoug wrote:In post 3244, Ankamius wrote:In post 3238, StrangerCoug wrote:Too early in the Garmr-Ankamius argument to make a call, but it comes off weird in general—I'm not getting anything except they're slinging mud at each other. Expect me to keep an eye on both of them.
I don't understand what this post was meant to accomplish.
It gets my thoughts out there! What else do you think it's meant to accomplish?
What I mean is that you're not really saying anything in that post. It's commenting on our scuffle without giving any insight or game-relevant opinion, then saying what you'll do in a way that allows you to just drop it and never bring it up again if you want.
It's basically fluff and I don't understand why it's there.-
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In post 3319, Kise wrote:
ikr, "im fine voting huever yo guys want, m jus gon be in this corner in meantiem..oh okay so u guys got titus l-2, now l-1 but im not gunna vote jus yet, in case u guis rnt sure, limme fluf pots bout ster wers"
Vote: formerfish
Only voting these 2 and House. Don't matter who scumslips in the next 2 weeks.
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In post 3346, RachMarie wrote:So bomb is kinda like PGO? I have never seen that pr before.
Will look carefully at the VCA when I am on my computer.
Bomb kills whoever kills them.-
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In post 3418, TiphaineDeath wrote:PV's posting since I left has been pure scum-posting
Bzzzzt. Try again.
PeregrineV this game is a very strong gut-town read of mine. I'm not accepting any other answer.-
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In post 3451, TiphaineDeath wrote:kthx has totally been sheeping you all game.
This is different enough from what I remember about his townplay that it's worth sheeping.
VOTE: kthxbye-
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It's seriously blowing my mind that lynching Mollie is something being this heavily considered.
Mafia's biggest problem is the SK. It doesn't matter how well you can set one person up to win in LyLo if they just get popped at random by the SK, and the wrong person dying can fuck over your entire team. It's in mafia's best interests to invest heavily into trying to wipe out the SK so they can have the stability to focus on winning against the town. The fact that the SK has popped two of them already only reinforces this.
What does town gain from the SK? More lynch chances. This can be mitigated by how many wagons are scum-driven (and how hard scum drive them) in order to fulfill mafia's agenda. We also give them a kill that they'd have to waste on the SK (or even multiple if the SK has a bulletproof that hasn't been used yet).
It makes little to no sense. This Mollie wagon is garbage and needs to be dismantled immediately.-
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In post 3468, Garmr wrote:Tbh I think scum doesn't want to vote mollie today because they are afraid they will look scummy if they do. I would look at people pushing mollie being sk with out actually voting her.
This is setting red flags in my head with that in mind.-
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This is the biggest the Mollie wagon ever got on Day 4. I'm going to be very shocked if all three of these guys are town. I don't see how it's even possible.-
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In post 3485, Garmr wrote:It's also town interest to lynch sk since we don't win with it. Mollie is obvious sk people who are saying we can leash the sk whats the point as we only have like 1 or 2 scum left and a fuck load of townies.
You completely ignored the part of my post where I said that mafia has to waste time taking care of the SK. All an SK-lynch does right now is just vastly remove the pressure on scum. It makes no sense to lynch the SK. At all.-
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In post 3492, Garmr wrote:In post 3489, Ankamius wrote:In post 3485, Garmr wrote:It's also town interest to lynch sk since we don't win with it. Mollie is obvious sk people who are saying we can leash the sk whats the point as we only have like 1 or 2 scum left and a fuck load of townies.
You completely ignored the part of my post where I said that mafia has to waste time taking care of the SK. All an SK-lynch does right now is just vastly remove the pressure on scum. It makes no sense to lynch the SK. At all.
We have to deal with sk sometime and what happens when we get to the point where sk and mafia have mauled town down and we are in a lose lose situation.. How long do we leave sk till it backfires on us.
Also why not try starting a wagon on me.
In post 3482, Ankamius wrote:Last note: This will naturally change eventually. 16 alive players is too early for this to be an imminent problem that has to be dealt with.-
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In post 3561, Josh_B wrote:I think Ankamius is scum. I might have been wrong about Mom. kind of like I have been on everyone else.
Show your work.