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In post 73, Cephrir wrote:Now I feel bad, if BPC said I was being mean, it's probably true :/
You are being a little harsh D:-
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Are you having fun, ns?
So ascetic is generally better for scum? I mean I could see it countering watcher and maybe a couple other roles if scum used it on town, and then using it on themselves would be beneficial too. For town to have it, there would probably have to be some stronger nonkilling scum roles. So yeah, I'd probably see it as scummier.
p-edit: I care ns! I wrote the thingy in this one before you said we didn't care!
Also, Ceph, I think you're more just way too excited and reacted to fast on it. If anything it feels like town jumping on info. Dun be sad!-
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In post 101, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:so is this role mod-meta-able
I'm curious as to why you jumped on that wagon super fast. Like RVS vote whatever, but then you got serious and this was before the info from their neighbourhood.-
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In post 108, notscience wrote:My scum meta is to be under the radar
By being over the radar and blatantly telling you guys my intentions ill be townread
By you knowing this, would it not make sense for you to go opposite and be over the top?-
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In post 159, Cephrir wrote:BPC, why do you feel weird
I don't know D:
In post 161, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Ridiculously annoying with this fake-ass appeal to try to be nice to win friendship/towncred
The notsci vote is actually stupid why wouldn’t you wagon varsoon? Notsci vote did all of jackshit, bipolar just sat it there and didn’t press anything. I don’t like how he competely avoided talking about varsoon
In post 121, BipolarChemist wrote:I really just don't wanna jump on a wagon right away without much evidence. Hence asking Ceph about the things. I'm not a big fan of you just seemingly blindly jumping on, orcinus!
p-edit: notsciii I'm voting you!
this is the worst. Fency, trying to avoid contributing through this façade of “oh dear I don’t know anything I need more evidence” it’s page fucking 5.
And look at that magnificent pressure on his notsci vote, I really don’t know what he’s trying to do.
I was more just having fun in the first bit I didn't feel like hoping on the Varsoon wagon because there's obviously enough pressure there already. And I didn't avoid talking about Varsoon, I gave my thoughts on the matter and I wanted to start looking elsewhere. I wanted to make banter with notsci and see where that led, then I wanted to question you on your early hop on of the Varsoon wagon, because it seemed like he was already being fairly heavily pressured.
Of course I'm gonna be fencey about hopping on a wagon on page 5. It's page 5. I'm not ready to be gun-hoe about a lynch on page 5. Although this day will more than likely end with Varsoon's lynch, I don't think my pressure there is needed past me getting a few comments about it.-
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In post 167, Cephrir wrote:
His direction and tone have felt a bit odd to me, but I haven't /really/ played mafia with him before.
I also cannot be trusted to read him or STD, and will probably be defending both of them to the death by page 30, FYI.
I'm more just both scared and excited to play mafia again! Just give it time and I'll be back to barely being caught up and making walls on random things I notice.-
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In post 198, notscience wrote:Wifom is scums greatest ally
Pedit
Bpc we were both in slappykrews game
I literally don't remember that game!
In post 199, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:In post 196, BipolarChemist wrote:orc: It's not about the number of votes on him, it's about how he's reacting and how much pressure Varsoon was feeling. And it sure as hell seemed like he was feeling pressure.
exactly
so varsoon was floundering after two votes on him
and you thought, somehow, that dropping a solitary, unexplained vote on notsci of all people would be more productive than talking about someone who started flailing on page 5??
And there were multiple people questioning and on him, I didn't have anything to say to him and others were doing a fine job there. Somehow, I thought humouring and talking with notsci would lead somewhere, but he obviously doesn't give a shit, so then I questioned you kinda.-
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I've said that his actions are more likely to be scummy before. There's not way we're ever gonna be able to look past the slip and is pretty much the obvious vote for today, but I don't want a big wagon right away to see some quick lynch. Like it's just obvious so it's boring, I'm not interested in the biggest thing, but I'm also bad at focusing on little things-
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In post 223, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:
so exactly are you doing right now aside from trying desperately to avoid voicing an opinion i'm curious
I don't understand D: I feel like I am giving my opinion here...-
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I don't know what to think on people because they all seem to have played together and are talking about that and interacting like old friends. I have no idea what to comment on or how to even remotely go about scumhunting. Right now, I'm just commenting on anything that pops out to me and really mostly just answering your stuff.
I don't think I'm avoiding Varsoon talk, I think the whole situation is just fairly cut and dry. He probably slipped, he got called out for it, he flailed when pressured, and here we are!
I haven't done stuff with my vote on notsci because notsci just kinda fucked off and I realized he's gonna probably continue to fuck off like he's been doing. I don't really know where else my vote would go that would be good for pressure right now because I don't feel strongly enough about anyone possibly being scummy.
My thoughts so far are that Varsoon more than likely scumslipped, he'll more than likely be the lynch today. Ceph's reaction to the whole thing felt very town. You seem town I guess? I'm mostly going off of other's thoughts. MafiaSSK I'm not sure on, null, I guess! Nothing else really sticking out.
The few people I know I can interact with in this game are going to be Ceph, STD, and possibly Mara, but I really don't have much experience with most anyone in the game.-
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In post 254, Save The Dragons wrote:Holy cow this game went fast. I can't think right now.
In post 50, Cephrir wrote:We are lynching Varsoon today.
VOTE: Varsoon
Sheeping the most adorable player.
Actually you're both town, and all the crap I put in my catch up post was either stupid or commented on anyway.
Unvote
Will try again in the morning.
I didn't feel like quoting a bunch, but thus far I feel like you've been relying in part on interacting with Ceph. And normally that's fine, but the difference between you and Ceph is I feel like you've been more sucking up I guess? Kinda almost playing to make yourself seem more town. Ignoring the initial reactiony bits, what is your honest feeling on Ceph?
In post 271, Ms Marangal wrote:as I wait their response, I'll start off here
Saki
honey bee
Ffery
Orci
notsci
I know people keep asking you why Honey Bee is in the townpile, but I'm getting the impression that you are ignoring these questions! Please don't ignore! Especially when you go and complain that Cabd is ignoring you.
p-edit: And you kinda answered it? But I'm really not getting any feeling of you giving a reason to town read them still!
In post 298, Honey bee wrote:VOTE: BipolarChemist
I agree with orc mostly. Your energy off the wagon is more about explaining yourself rather than figuring out anyone's alignment. Also your confidence about a slip that's coming from word of mouth rubs me the wrong way.
I am liking ceph and orci so far, maybe mara a bit too.
Also I've played all except days of ruin, is the factions in that game completely different than the others? Because a rough estimate of how many neighborhoods there are would help me.
My initial energy was figuring out why the hell Ceph and ffery were freaking out over Varsoon, then once that had been made clear I wanted to move into other things. Then I got questioned for why I didn't pile more onto Varsoon and thus the perpetuating explanation of why I'm doing the things I'm doing. And my confidence is most definitely playing off of other's confidence in the slip. Varsoon is even admitting how dumb it was to claim in thread and it seems like town's job is to figure out whether it was a scum slip or not and I think it is hella more likely to be a scum slip. So when the word of mouth is coming from the player in question themselves, I'm gonna go with thinking I can trust the info.
In post 359, purple hero wrote:yeah, fuck you to orci.
Ceph, larger hoods are more likely to have scum hidden inside of them, and would be willing to treat anything three or less as masons
You, I feel like you have been stating mostly the obvious so far. You sound madish at Cabd, but how are your feelings on him thus far?
Also, apart from Varsoon, you have been making me feel the most off so far sooo...
VOTE: mara
p-edit: std: I feel like I should have seen this but at this point Mara should reeeeeally say something more on this
In post 378, Honey bee wrote:ah ok. You're probably town then.
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In post 399, Cephrir wrote:I need to meta you. The tone is throwing me for a major loop. And before anyone asks, no I can't explain that, because I don't actually know what I mean by it.
I think trying to actually figure out how to play and gaining a tone is a big point of where I'm at now! I'm getting there (hopefully)!
In post 402, Cephrir wrote:Oh, you just outed SSK, also. Meh.
I don't know if getting an answer is an okay thing... but I don't understand what was outed D:
@STD: Okay but taking out any Varsoon interaction what do you think on Ceph's play?-
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In post 412, Ms Marangal wrote:In post 396, BipolarChemist wrote:You, I feel like you have been stating mostly the obvious so far. You sound madish at Cabd, but how are your feelings on him thus far?
Mad? no, but I want him, not whatevertheufuckitisheisplanningbehindthread
What kind of interaction are you trying to have with him and how is it gonna be productive?-
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In post 413, Save The Dragons wrote:In post 410, BipolarChemist wrote:@STD: Okay but taking out any Varsoon interaction what do you think on Ceph's play?
I like that post just now where he said what I was thinking in a more eloquent form than .
/why/?-
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In post 416, Konowa wrote:Saki's actually likely Scum.
Cool. Why?-
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Mmmm okay. I'm watching you, STD >.>
Mara, if you're trying to get something genuine, then why does it feel like you're more randomly attacking with no real purpose? The feeling I get is that you're trying to more evoke him to respond harshly in return. I don't really understand what you're trying to do I guess...-
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In post 431, Cephrir wrote:In post 427, BipolarChemist wrote:Ceph, I think DV is scum all the time when I play with him. I'm usually wrong
This makes me feel better!
Pretty sure the only reason I'm in this game is to make you feel better
In post 458, Save The Dragons wrote:Cabd has been rubbing me the wrong way all game, front and center with setup spec and fanciful ideas for how this game should be played. That's all fine and dandy but it seems like it could just as easily be a smoke screen. The more it happens the more it bothers me.
I really didn't like his post on Mara, it seems forced to me.
I've been getting a kind of off feeling about you so far, and this is a post that I think sums my awk feeling nicely. It feels way too generic for you and I get the feeling not enough is being said. Can you elaborate on why you think it was forced?-
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In post 465, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Oh my god are you guys really going to force me to push this varsoon wagon is this real life
pedit std: oh i see. sorry "indicative" is a big word right now
I preeetty sure we're all feeling like it's gonna be a Varsoon lynch today. People just wanna look down other avenues first.-
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In post 501, Cephrir wrote:I can try to give you rundowns, possibly in an hour or so, but I am not sure whether they will be any good.
Yes could you be a doll and do so. I understand you! Also, I mostly have no idea what I'm doing!
pedit: I've mostly been fairly intimidated by you in previous games, ffery! I just haven't said that I've felt this way until now!-
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In post 518, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:for some reason i just dont understand maras posts this game. is it just me?
No, I agree here. I don't see direction and to me it kind feels like she's more trying to get a reaction than anything. How does scummy Mara usually play?
In post 533, Honey bee wrote:In post 396, BipolarChemist wrote:
My initial energy was figuring out why the hell Ceph and ffery were freaking out over Varsoon, then once that had been made clear I wanted to move into other things. Then I got questioned for why I didn't pile more onto Varsoon and thus the perpetuating explanation of why I'm doing the things I'm doing. And my confidence is most definitely playing off of other's confidence in the slip. Varsoon is even admitting how dumb it was to claim in thread and it seems like town's job is to figure out whether it was a scum slip or not and I think it is hella more likely to be a scum slip. So when the word of mouth is coming from the player in question themselves, I'm gonna go with thinking I can trust the info.
I meant that you trusted without much hesitation ffery and ceph can 100% determine a mistake from a slip. and you think its only dumb from a scum perspective?
I was initially confused as why they were jumping all over with it, then it was explained by all parties involved. I said fairly early on that I agreed that it was more likely to come from scum than town, plus I both think that Cephrir is town for his reaction and that he's a much better mafia player than I am
I think it's dumb from both perspectives, but I think it's more likely a dumb scum move than a dumb town move in this case. Really it would be way more dumb of a town move!
In post 554, Cephrir wrote:In post 551, Save The Dragons wrote:I'm playing the "let's be more than friends" card on Ceph...are you implying I'm buddying up to him? I would call him cute no matter what alignment either of us are.
I can confirm this thing is a true thing as well as a two way street
Imma just confirm that Ceph and STD's interactions were pretty expected coming into this game, for me. My only worry was that I felt STD was using the interactions to get a very town looking player to be on his side.-
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In post 629, Honey bee wrote:
I understand that you didn't understand what ceph was saying early on, and I understand you think the slip will more likely come from scum. However, what concerns me is that you viewed the slip as sufficient enough to confirm him as scum without observation of the actual slip and without much question of whether ceph and ffery's judgement was accurate or without much prodding to varsoon. I think town should show a healthy amount of skepticism when it comes to these things, and your assertion that ceph is just a better scum hunter and riding on the coattails of that puts me off.
Also I got the impression from your 396 that you were treating varsoon as having to have scum claimed by saying his claim was dumb. So I don't understand why you said you could trust var's word that var was scum.
I dunno how important this is now, but at the time Varsoon was confirming he had said the claim and ffery and Ceph were prodding him on it quite a bit. I had town read Ceph pretty hard from the situation and yes I assume he's a muuuuch better scum hunter than I am Also, I think I even said in 396 that a big thing there was figuring out if the slip was scum or not. I never took it as a scum claim.
Dick. Well tell me what's happening so far today, because I'm feelin hella lazy while reading this game.-
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In post 1346, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:In post 571, BipolarChemist wrote:No, I agree here. I don't see direction and to me it kind feels like she's more trying to get a reaction than anything. How does scummy Mara usually play?
i answered this question are you interested in giving me some comments
I'm going I'm going! D: Mostly focusing on your 1066 and 1072. I guess I agree with most differences you pointed out and the one thing I kinda latched on was you pointing out that she took a backseat in a scum hydra with Ceph. Do you think that some of her more lazy posting in this game is reminiscent of that sitting back there?
Then you pointed out her irrationality, which I can see, and you seemed confused by it, how do you feel about it now?-
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I felt she was a bit lazier early on with pushing lynch and really everything, granted packing and moving and what not. But moving the she's busy look to her actively trying to get a lynch, I'm not sure it's a point for her being scum to me. I could just as easily see her getting one scum read and attacking that instead of hunting due to busy schedule. Granted I still need to read most of today's stuff! I may or may not get to that tonight (but don't fully count on it because it's late).-
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I spoilered the bigger quotes just so it doesn't look totally stupidly large. I'll give my reads soon, but they aren't gonna be very good! I've been putting this off a lot! It's been a weird weekend.
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In between these two posts, there was like no mention of Varsoon. You went from expected Varsoon to flip scum to hard defending him for the rest of the day. Where did this come from?
In post 1083, wgeurts wrote:I'm rereading at the moment, screw you for lynching while I was gone.
I’m not even blaming them after reading up. It was just getting out of hand by the end of the day.
I feel like you would have said this with however he flipped :/
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A couple things! A bit later you basically say Ceph is universal townread but still point out a specific large post and say it’s generally awesome. Are there any specific points that you think are like super important or what?
Also, on Lynx, I’ve mostly been getting a he’s too busy to make a legit post read on him. What bothered you about that post in particular?
In post 1210, MafiaSSK wrote:In post 1209, notscience wrote:I could wagon SSK.
I love your input, notscience. It's so deep, filled with insight and truthful. Have I ever mentioned that?
Althought I lol’d, what’s the point of this? The past few posts before this one feel oddly defensive and off putting. I almost wanna stretch and say it feels like you’re saying things to avoid legit game convo.
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The only times I found Ceph being weird was around STD. This was more or less expected!
“~Wayne Gretsky” ~Michael Scott
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You dick. Tell me how to read ffery and cadb.
In post 1380, wgeurts wrote:Sorry to leave y'all in suspence why I voted mara, I actually do have reasons however it's more fun to do what I did and let y'all speculate. I was about to go to sleep so I made that short post, I'm nearly finished catching up and you can expect a case in a little while.
This feels so unnecessarily cryptic with like no follow up. Later you say you have mara down as pretty conf town. What changed between this post and 1513?
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That statement isn’t saying it’s a scum claim?
I’ll probably have a list at the end of this probably long post.
@Bookitty: Yay for town read, but that was my only scum game. I feel like any future ones I be different probably in them? I’m quite bored of town!
In post 1745, LynxKuroneko wrote:
And why are people insisting I joined Varsoon's wagon? Is my name on there without my knowledge or something?
Even though he wasn’t on the wagon, this feels like further distancing from that wagon. Like “Oh shit nope, I didn’t touch that, get it away, get it away.” Feels off.
From my read through, I felt like wguerts was one of the more strange and offputting people. Most of his posts are kinda null, but there are a few spots that felt scummy to me that I think I pointed out above.
VOTE: wguerts-
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This was a faiiirly quickly put together list. Some done while making the above post then a bunch thrown in in the leaning and neutral columns.
Town:
Cheetory6
Cephrir
Fferyllt
Bookitty
Lean Town:
Konowa
Honey bee
Brian Skies
Save The Dragons
Neutral:
Orcinus_theoriginal
Cabd
ABR
LynxKuroneko
MafiaSSK
Saki
Lean Scum:
Flubbernugget
Notscience
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I feel kinda conflicted on you? While you post a lot of content, I find you unnecessarily dramatic at times, but I don't think that's any kinda scum tell. I just never got any strong feelings past that.-
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In post 2170, Albert B. Rampage wrote:In post 2166, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Oh you want me to continue? ok you've been picking low hanging fruit the entire game and focused on majority wishes instead of actually any semblance of legitimate scumhunting
Do you mean grapes? I stand by my grapes vote, now that we look who's replaced him.
You voted grapes when grapes hadn't said anything? Why the need to reaffirm a vote that, to me, looks like it was placed to either drag out lurkers or just a random vote?
In post 2187, wgeurts wrote:In post 2122, BipolarChemist wrote:I'm gonna go pee now.
What changed was a whole possible paranoia of lynching a paranoid cop, haven't you read anything?
You mentioned nothing like this inbetween the two posts I mentioned. The post you made before 1513 you said you were gonna make a case on Mara, then you went to hard townreading her? I never saw any thought process from you there.
In post 2189, wgeurts wrote:In post 2122, BipolarChemist wrote:I'm gonna go pee now.
You listed only one post of me which was explained exstensiveley, I believe you're not even trying to scumhunt however any case on you will now look like OMGUS.
If I were playing any OMGUS ever I’d have voted orcinus yesterday This is a great discredit though, not bad dude! Me only pointing out one post totally means that’s only what I based thoughts off of.
In post 2203, wgeurts wrote:I'll ISO ABR, he's looking town to me but I haven't had a deeper look yet. Thanks for the posts though.
You just said his play has been consistent with his meta but now you’re saying you haven’t taken a good look at his ISO?-
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There's a few things I need to respond to from yesterday, but I don't feel like quoting and stuff tonight. So I'll go with other things I have!
Mentioned it yesterday, but yay I'm alone in my neighbourhood now! Lynx was more or less useless in there except giving two recommendations on who I should recruit to the neighbourhood. Initially he wanted ABR with little reasoning, which I found as odd, but dismissed more or less, not 100% sure what the motive would be for having two scum in a neighbourhood though. He then went on to suggest Bookitty with little reasoning.-
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Fiiiine.
One thing I'd like to point out with his suggesting of ABR was that it was just a few minutes after I told him of my recruiting thing. Do you think it would be possible he jumped at the chance to get his partner in the neighbourhood, then reeled back to someone town after telling his group about it?
@honey bee: I can't recruit till tonight. I really hope the person I tried to recruit today comes in. I like him.-
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