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In post 75, Bacon and Egg wrote:Oh, I have some townreads.
talk to me about thisnotscience + pieguyn-
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also, I would like to make a formal request that we attempt to keep the rate of posting down this game
the last thing I want to see in this game is a 200 fucking page day 1; and no, I don't really care if you think more posts will make it easier to sort people. this is more so the case when it's multiball and >95% of posts are easily fucking faked.notscience + pieguyn-
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In post 127, Sonic Boom wrote:I have you as likely town at the moment.
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In post 135, Sonic Boom wrote:i'm scumreading you for scumreading me and voting me in your first post w/o even interacting me
why do you think I would be more likely to do this as scum?
In post 135, Sonic Boom wrote:i have townread on ricastle and cephhydra
what do you think HH has done this game that is unlikely to come from scum?notscience + pieguyn-
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In post 145, Sonic Boom wrote:of course you're more likely to give a shitty read on me as scum
except if I was scum here, any scum read I would give on you would likely be genuine. unless you think I'd feel the need to bullshit reads for whatever reason instead of genuinely scum hunting?
the angle you're pushing here doesn't feel like you've thought it through
also, if you have no scum reads outside of me, have you been doing anything to get them?
In post 139, Homiletic Homunculi wrote:These posts don't seem like they belong together.
if you don't believe my reads, you could just.... ask?notscience + pieguyn-
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In post 163, Homiletic Homunculi wrote:That's not what I'm saying. It's curious to me that you would give reads then immediately hate on the idea of having reads.
I'm not hating on the idea of having reads. having reads is fine. what I'm against is
1. making a bunch of posts that do nothing to advance the game. it's bad in every game, it's 200% worse here. the idea that "more posts = easier to read" is entirely false despite people wanting to think otherwise - it just floods the thread with posts and makes it more difficult to interact with people and pick up specific scum vs. town behaviors. I'm seeing this happen already and I do not like it.
2. since this is multiball, the majority of posts are very easily fakeable. ergo, it's even worse here since there's even less useful posts.
I'm taking a bit of a different approach in forming reads this game in that I need to be very careful town reading ppl; so far I think the reasons for my town reads are relatively solid for early reads. it is also likely I'll have way more scum reads than town reads.
In post 174, Sonic Boom wrote:nay. disagree. hopping on with a "scumreading sonic" is one of the safest reads that you can take right now. especially w/o reasons. especially w/o interacting with me first. all you need to say is "oh, i know sonic a lot, he's looking like his scum game" and TA DA magic insta-wagon on me complete with chocolate chip cookies
you're missing the point
since this is multiball, my motivation as scum would not be to be forming "safe reads". it would be to actually form legitimate reads. so why do you think scum-me would go out of my way to bullshit reads when it would be safer, and easier, to _actually_ read you?
I'm also wondering how the last sentence relates to what I've done this game. cos I'm pretty sure I haven't said anything like that this game
In post 174, Sonic Boom wrote:do you think i have like 50+ posts in this game for a fucking joke right now? lol.
yes?
I see you making a lot of posts, but the push on me is the first indication of scum hunting (everything up to then was trying to policy lynch TWIE and then getting angry bc someone wanted to lynch you for making too many posts?). and even then, you're not really doing anything to push said read. it feels like you're just making posts without any goal of advancing the gamestate.
In post 174, Sonic Boom wrote:how about you explain your gif scumlean? i am super null on gif right now. show me stuff
I don't really think GIF would legitimately have a notable number of town reads at this point in the game.
I mean, I guess it's possible, but my first reaction to finding out he apparently had a bunch of town reads was that I didn't believe he'd be that naive.notscience + pieguyn-
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In post 193, Sonic Boom wrote:think pie is scum here. opportunistic pouncing. though it could be confbias from my omgus.
though, whatever, it page 8. and people are voting me for "many posts" rather than actually scumreading me
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In post 196, Sonic Boom wrote:Seiko, I ardently disagree with your theory.
what is this referring to?notscience + pieguyn-
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In post 200, Homiletic Homunculi wrote:Tone
Also maybe I'm giving him too much credit just because it says goon under his name & i realize this
I think I know why you're saying this but it's easy to fake, especially given the setup (it's easy to act like "troll mode town" and have it come off a lot more natural in multiball in my opinion. you might disagree, though).
In post 162, Angry Frat BROs wrote:Also Not Science is a townlean,
btw I just saw this and everything so far has been pieguyn. notsci hasn't shown up yet.notscience + pieguyn-
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In post 204, Sonic Boom wrote:In post 190, Seiko x Naomi wrote:1. making a bunch of posts that do nothing to advance the game. it's bad in every game, it's 200% worse here. the idea that "more posts = easier to read" is entirely false despite people wanting to think otherwise - it just floods the thread with posts and makes it more difficult to interact with people and pick up specific scum vs. town behaviors. I'm seeing this happen already and I do not like it.
bullshit. all my posts are game relevant and they advance the game.
with exception to my doctor analogy.
ok how about YOU do the burden of proof and QUOTE the posts that doNOTHINGto advance the game?
In post 204, Sonic Boom wrote:In post 190, Seiko x Naomi wrote:1. making a bunch of posts that do nothing to advance the game. it's bad in every game, it's 200% worse here. the idea that "more posts = easier to read" is entirely false despite people wanting to think otherwise - it just floods the thread with posts and makes it more difficult to interact with people and pick up specific scum vs. town behaviors. I'm seeing this happen already and I do not like it.
bullshit. all my posts are game relevant and they advance the game.
with exception to my doctor analogy.
ok how about YOU do the burden of proof and QUOTE the posts that doNOTHINGto advance the game?
blablabla mafia theory bla
In post 190, Seiko x Naomi wrote:2. since this is multiball, the majority of posts are very easily fakeable. ergo, it's even worse here since there's even less useful posts.
theory bla
In post 190, Seiko x Naomi wrote:I'm taking a bit of a different approach in forming reads this game in that I need to be very careful town reading ppl; so far I think the reasons for my town reads are relatively solid for early reads. it is also likely I'll have way more scum reads than town reads.
fluff bla
In post 190, Seiko x Naomi wrote:so why do you think scum-me would go out of my way to bullshit reads when it would be safer, and easier, to _actually_ read you?
well, you have to look like you're scumhunting.
dont give us that wifom nonsense. "why would scum-me do X when Y is better if i could pull of Y properly which is not always all the time?"
so please, tell the class your reason for scumreading me so that some of us can believe that its not bullshit.
so far your reason is the same as the rest which is the many posts. so, going with the flow. thats scummy. ja.
In post 190, Seiko x Naomi wrote:I'm also wondering how the last sentence relates to what I've done this game. cos I'm pretty sure I haven't said anything like that this game
i predict it coming
In post 190, Seiko x Naomi wrote:I see you making a lot of posts, but the push on me is the first indication of scum hunting (everything up to then was trying to policy lynch TWIE and then getting angry bc someone wanted to lynch you for making too many posts?). and even then, you're not really doing anything to push said read. it feels like you're just making posts without any goal of advancing the gamestate.
my advancement of the gamestate is to get that vermin of TWIE out, or at least give him an enough warning that i will not tolerate any more gamethrowing shit from him.
also, i got reactions from everyone that we've yet to analyze. good for you for getting early but probably inaccurate reads. you know that i pride myself on accurate reads and take a bit more time before declaring them loudly. saying that i'm "not scumhunting" is bullshit.
p-edit even I get p-edited by like 6 posts. this momentum is certainly not only my doing.notscience + pieguyn-
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In post 207, Bacon and Egg wrote:By the time I posted that I had 3 legitimate townreads.
meh, that's not unreasonable I suppose. carry on.notscience + pieguyn-
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In post 211, Sonic Boom wrote:yeah, i'm pointing out how you're bullshitting.
literally nothing there addresses any of what I was saying
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In post 215, Bacon and Egg wrote:You're fine with it after you blurting out how people shouldn't be townread so easily in multiball game and you had problem with how naive I am being with my townreads? I posted that comment at the pagetop of page 4, when not much ppl have posted.
I had 3 town reads by page 5 even reading people carefully. I had assumed you had more than that.
I only thought a few people at most could have possibly looked town here, even outside the town reads I had.
In post 217, Sonic Boom wrote:ffs let other people read how they want. you're imposing on their own scumhunting which is either egotistical (which is not a trait that i know you for) or scum. discourages other from townreading others. stifling a players own scumhunting. yeah, i've explained myself, yea?
it's relevant because it *should* be affecting how any town player would read people here. in S&S2 I was more than content to just not give a shit whenever I saw something that looked town on a surface level, even when it was objectively fakeable. I'd expect other people would approach playing it in a similar way.
meanwhile, from a town POV, knowing that scum are "genuinely scum hunting" as well usually drastically affects the dynamics of how you should be reading people in order to get accurate reads. so yeah, I will point it out if I see people who appear to be erroneously town reading people here.notscience + pieguyn-
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In post 220, Bacon and Egg wrote:Tunneling someone mindlessly is something MS can do as either alignment.
what do you make of him saying my scum read on him was for "posting a lot" when it was pretty fucking obvious that wasn't the case?notscience + pieguyn-
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In post 229, Sonic Boom wrote:dont divert. you want to 1v1 me, then you stand your ground. i have to go to bed soon and my mood is going to be vastly different tomorrow. it affects my posting.
lol
I have no interest in "1v1"'ing you right now. and to be honest, I have a feeling you're specifically requesting it in order to be able to flood the thread with even more posts.
when I think it's a good time to destroy you, I willnotscience + pieguyn-
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In post 32, Ricastle wrote:VOTE: Sonic Boom
Hydrate: Ricastle
I will take anyone hydrating someone other than themselves at this point as scumpartners
Mod, pretty sure I've confirmed btw
Why does that necessarily mean scum partners? This game has a lot of people familiar with each other and a lot of people who like to townread each other, and it's day fucking 1. We can RVS however we want. I see no reason to try and restrict things. It feels like you're turning around and saying "Oh guys town will want themselves to be hydrated" right after you voted yourself so you're trying to paint yourself as town.
I also think that this early rage from metal sonic feels like the rage we saw from LLD in Mod Error. The only difference being that his doesn't seem so much as testing the water, and I don't think it's alignment indicative either way. It just feels like at this point he's trying to look like he's doing things. Basically, how he feels about TWIE isn't a part of this game and should be ignored unless it just evolves into an excuse to avoid doing things and it should be purged with fire. I'm not sure I like titus trying to prepare for the lategame all over the thread, talking about leashing and voting the nulls and future VCA while totally ignoring what is going on at the moment. It feels like they are posting a ton but are ultimately accomplishing nothing.In post 77, Ricastle wrote:I swear it was in the rules that the hydrated player could pick another person to be hydrated in the night but I can't find it now. Oh well.
This definitely was in the rules when I looked.In post 81, Angry Frat BROs wrote:So obviously this is 3:3:11 right? I mean that's unbalanced as fuck but 2:2:13 seems too reasonable for a game like this.
Xmen.In post 83, Ricastle wrote:I want to get elected, C. That should be all you need to know.
Yes, because this is literally the only fucking thing you have done. Is there any particular reason you are ignoring everything else going on in the game?In post 88, Oversoul wrote:snip
So, you in this post basically buddy singer, ask AP about setup spec, and tell titus and wisdom not to spampost. But yet you ignore everything else going on in the game at this time.In post 93, Oversoul wrote:Tbh I wouldn't have joined if I realized everyone started as a Vt :/ I wanted to try and draw a power role
Pedit: Titus and Wisdom both made that same type of post last time I played with them
Both were scum
So no. That will not absolve you
This feels like testing the water, like you are planning to set yourself up to be apathetic all game. This, in part with your earlier comments about titus/wisdom makes me feel like you are trying to find a way to coast in this game.In post 103, Tammy wrote:Also, we're a vt. I know some of you hate early claims but welp.
This feels really forced tammyIn post 107, Tammy wrote:Like ten minutes before I got our role pm I was telling mala that I wanted to be scum because a) multiball and b) this game is going to be insane, and then both our hopes were dashed :/
But I have waffles so it's all good!
I do think there's some merit to hydrating middle/nulls as it could force scum to make different night kill,choices than they otherwise would, and there's not a huge danger to giving roles to scum as its multiball and could encourage crosskills more than would otherwise be in play. But giving it to people, like me, who tend to die early might just be a big waste.
I have never seen you make posts like this ever in any game or as either alignment.In post 112, Oversoul wrote:VOTE: Angry Bros
Stop shirking your responsibilities
Is Mollie a part of the Sonic hydra too? I will commit seppuku if that is true. Don't know if I can deal with that much noise
Tammy you wound me, especially after Team Mafia
Rune - we should have done a hydra, it is the name of the game here
Do you intend to actually do anything other than buddy people and complain about noise while contributing nothing but said noise?In post 142, Oversoul wrote:Hugs!!
Tammy real talk I didn't like your VT comment. :/ it felt feigned and forced trying to display lack of care/knowledge
I think the only way scum are gonna have a chance this game is if they ingratiate themselves with Pillars of the Community
funny, i didnt like yours!In post 151, Oversoul wrote:Also real talk didn't like the setup spec from AP/Bro
then why didnt you keep pressing it after they ignored your question? For someone who didnt like it you sure didnt seem to push it much. What dont you like about it?In post 179, Angry Frat BROs wrote:Oh I figured it out. The "Fine" I put in my post was me deciding that Tammy was getting flipped from a gut scum read to a gut town read. Some ragrets. But not really, full steam ahead.
p-edit: Ugh, Titus. The "no doubt" part of my comment and the analogy it was attached to was intended to convey tired jaded sarcasm, not develop a concrete salient point.
Since you asked though, I would say that Bacon and Egg is doing what I envision scum doing here - coasting by.
I feel like oversoul is trying to set the stage to coast, thoughts?In post 203, Sonic Boom wrote:Even with high volume posters you can tell their alignment. A good chunk of my "overposts" are p-edits, so I don't consider them posts. Why is said player posting a lot? Look at Signs and Void for instance, I was forced to overposts as scum because all my buddies were lurking (somewhat due to IRL). Scum overposts to hide something. Town overposts because we feel no one is listening. Also, you can find a direct correlation between the overposting. What a person talks about is important. What they hide by posting is ALSO important.
So, when we talk about you two, you have been posting a ton but you (titus) haven't actually been doing anything. Metal sonic has, sure. But what have you done? Oh, just trying to say "Oh my partner was doing the /townie/ thing!"In post 235, Seiko x Naomi wrote:In post 229, Sonic Boom wrote:dont divert. you want to 1v1 me, then you stand your ground. i have to go to bed soon and my mood is going to be vastly different tomorrow. it affects my posting.
lol
I have no interest in "1v1"'ing you right now. and to be honest, I have a feeling you're specifically requesting it in order to be able to flood the thread with even more posts.
when I think it's a good time to destroy you, I will
he's trying to bait me into it and I'm not taking said bait
I'd love some reasoning behind oversoul's reads.
In post 330, Cait Sith wrote:Yeah btw we probably shouldn't fluff. we have a shitton of high posters this game (Titus, Tammy, Mala, Wisdom, ns, sonic) which will already make the game a decently high PC once it gets going.
Which one of you said thisIn post 347, Angry Frat BROs wrote:I don't get the townreads on Singer but shes one of the people that gets townread a lot for being "afraid of scum" a la Tammy and Mina and I usually throw shade on the whole ordeal just to end up seeing them flip town every game, so MEH.
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You're right, you definitely gave reads and elaborated on said reads when prompted! Oh wait, no you didn't. You made me out to have completely ignored you saying that. You have reads, yes. But you aren't elaborating. You aren't comparing. It feels like you're just throwing out some relatively safe reads without reasoning so you can make that exact comment.notscience + pieguyn-
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In post 398, Sonic Boom wrote:@Seiko, You're saying I am going nothing, yet I am setting the stage for end game. Those are inconsistent thoughts. I am pretty sure that's Piegyn posting because I am certain neuroscience is aware of how I value VCA. This is exactly what I am talking about with posts meaning transparency. I am looking at wagons and figuring out how they will look at endgame. I am pretty decent at endgame and I am working on bringing that forward. Mafia is a chess game to me. The early game is about behavior, which I suck at. If I can develop patterns from that and then apply them, I will only get better. So yes, I will focus on wagon analysis. Keep reading the part addressed to Singer.
Wrong, it's me. I'm well aware that you value vca and all of that jazz, but I'd also like to point to where your VCA got you in survivor. You are "preparing for endgame" yes, but in the process of doing that it's essentially becoming "wait for me to say things later" and while you might turn around and do it, yes, right now all you say you are doing is preparing for endgame. And if I may be frank, given how you guys have played today, why do you even think you are likely to make it to endgame? The point is, you are using "setting the stage for endgame" to excuse you from doing anything in the now, which I don't like.notscience + pieguyn-
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I point you to her comments about why town and scum spampost, cheetory.
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No, what inflates your post count is posts like that getting all pissy because he's asking for your reads.
VOTE: Sonic boom
All you are doing is spamming and raging at anyone who doesn't follow your stupid TWIE wagon or asks you to actually do things in the game, with a little of titus promising to do shit later in the game and she will be more accurate then and blahblahblahblah it's all just noise and a waste of time.notscience + pieguyn-
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You really should check who you're talking to before you try to act like you're actually going to engage them. I'm not 1v1ing you because it's blatantly obvious you're just trying to fill the thread and induce apathy. You know as well as I do that you have no shot in hell against us, and as people read on they will see your posting and how you two refuse time and time again to even give a semblance of a stance, with some holier-than-thou bullshit trying to paint yourselves as defiant town (while saying, even, "why would scum do this??? this is a towntell") but the point of the matter is you two simply are doing nothing but flooding the thread with useless posts and refusing to participate in any constructive way to the game.
So you can either, A, calm the fuck down and actually be productive and constructive B, replace out, or C, you eat rope.
It's just that simple.notscience + pieguyn-
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Want to know a secret? TWIE pissed me off in Sabotage. He was grating to play with as town. I frankly didn't like playing with him at all. But the way you are approaching this policy lynch is THAT bad that I want nothing to do with it. You act like noone's listening to you. We all hear you, TWIE sucks to play with, he's going to be a dick postgame, blah. Well guess what? Lynching him day 1 doesn't prevent him from posting in postgame. Yelling and bitching and being a dick to everyone because they won't listen to you about how much of a dick someone else is doesn't get things solved. We have all told you what we want to hear you talk about. We have all acknowledged your push and those who agreed joined and those who disagreed didn't. Stop being the kid who didn't get a fucking juice pouch.notscience + pieguyn-
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I'm just weird. What's weird is that they have just been finding excuse after excuse to avoid providing anything of actual substance to this game, trying to turn it into what all hydra clusterfucks turn into- a spammy, fluff game with little to no content. I want them to start trying to progress the game in a visible manner so we can actually attempt to get a read on them, because their play right now is just repeated excuses. Like, we all know going into this game that the primary scum strategy would be to coast and not do anything. Well that's essentially what they are doing, only they are adding in noise so they can try and look like they are doing something. I know firsthand how easy it is to turn a game into fluff and drive the apathy.
So ultimately, it's a cross between not wanting this game to rise in apathy, not believing it's worth keeping them alive for titus's reads to be "perfect" just so they can shit on the thread more until they are ready to post, sick of repeated excuses from them as to why they can't talk about things to try and progress the game.
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Cheet I'm not 100% positive they are scum, no. I do think the current signs point that way, and even if they /are/ town it's not worth keeping them around.
So essentially, a utility lynch.notscience + pieguyn-
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And why won't they bother to go through your ISO and check? Because you have filled it with spam and rage so noone /wants/ to check. So sure, it's clearly us who are making baseless accusations of you because we just get off on lynching you. And you do realize that the gamestate hasn't actually progressed much, correct? All that's happened is people grow more and more sick of your posting.
My definition of advancing the gamestate would be to allow reads on people to progress. Here's a secret for you- Yes, people are talking about you. But it's more people saying for you to stop being so vague and guarded about every little piece of ANYTHING. You are PREVENTING the gamestate from progressing regarding you because while yes, people are talking about you, you aren't letting people actually try and get a read on you. And when prompted to, despite having the audacity to claim that you are helping the gamestate by people talking about you, you refuse to allow anyone to actually attempt to read you.
And there's a difference between fame and infamy. What you've developed this game is the latter.notscience + pieguyn-
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Frankly?
I came into this game expecting the partner hydra mechanic thing where we get to pick someone, and I approached it as "Okay, I need to obvtown myself, get us the PR, then give a power to x" where x is the highest townread of a core set of players I intend to focus on sorting out early. Now that it's something like only one person gets the PR, I'm still skeptical about giving it to nullreads or below. For similar reasons to someone (I believe it was singer) stated, why would we run the risk of giving scum a pr for the chance "oh maybe theyre town and scum has to kill them." I think it should definitely be a townread who gets the shot. That being said, I also think theory discussion on hydration is a viable way for scum to avoid talking about other things, so won't be getting in to a long back and forth regarding this.notscience + pieguyn-
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In post 460, Homiletic Homunculi wrote:@Pie, I'd like you to drop Sonic for now and come back to them later.
I don't think the engage there is going to be productive and is just going to needlessly escalate in the he said she said kind of way that nobody cares about.
And I feel like you're ignoring a lot of other stuff in favour of a very narrow discussion.
Tell me about what you're thinking about Oversoul atm.
Just so we're clear, the wordy long paragraphs last night were all me, not pie. My biggest issue (if you still care) with oversoul is I feel like he hasn't really /done/ anything. Yes, I do see he had a wall with a lot of words. Majority of that wall was just talking about hydration, and he /did/ throw out some reads, yes. But they felt relatively safe and he didn't even try to back them up, and his response to my comments was just to discredit me and ignore where I asked him to try and explain his reads some.
As for things titus could comment on, there wasn't anything in particular i just wish we could see some semblance of reads forming. Iirc, in survivor she replaced in around day 3, yes but based on how it was run I dont think she actually read te first tribe and was trying to scumhunt in the second tribe. Here it just feels like shes not.notscience + pieguyn-
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@Tammy- The reason I asked about that quote is because lately I have slowed down my posting a fair amount in comparison to how bad I used to be, which mala should know. It makes sense for you saying it but if it was her I was going to be looking at her all sorts of sideways at the two of you. Especially as town, I'm a bit more aware of how bad spamposting can be purely because I know how dangerous it is as a scum tactic. So if anything, me spamposting would be red lights for mala so I was really bothered by it. But, you haven't seen me much recently so it doesn't really matter then!
I also just felt like that post came off really forced to me. Like I get where it comes from, the vt post sounded forced and the whole town thing is the same old same old non-alignment indicative thing. That being said, if you guys actually /do/ want to start doing things so I can get this townread I'm allegedly supposed to get on you that would be fantastic!
@MS- post 492 is basically what I have been ASKING you to do. In response to me saying you guys have been making excuses, BOTH heads have been doing it. It's unimportant now because you did actually do things finally, but you went on about the TWIE thing and ignored everything else and refused to comment based, and titus went on abotu wanting to be accurate and waiting until later. Both of these /are/ excuses.
In regards to the actual reads brought up in the wall, I obviously disagree with your stance on us. I don't agree with the reasons behind your townread on Cheetrir, because being thoughtful and genuine, especially regarding policy lynches isn't alignment indicative because even scum have to scumhunt in this game, so it's not hard to be genuine, and I also disagree with roping stances about policy lynches in there because that isn't somethign alignment indicative. I don't think Tamala has done anything worthy of being townread at this point in the game, but if you want to throw a gut read there you can. Regarding AFB, I want to know which head was doing the setup spec. Because AP should remember in xmen where we had a scumteam of 2 and a scumteam of 3, so he shouldnt have counted out that possibility. I'm gutreading espy as scum but I can't quantify what's giving me these niggles. I don't have an issue with oversoul's posts on the surface, but what do you think of the points I've brought forward about him potentially trying to set the stage to coast? It feels like a lot of your reads are just based off of scumhunting (zzzx, glass, cheetrir) but ultimately in this game we can't just auto-townread someone for scumhunting because even scum have to scumhunt.notscience + pieguyn-
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In post 738, Cait Sith wrote:Singerrrrr.
I want you to at least knowledged you saw what I wrote to you before
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I'm still waiting for the magic words.notscience + pieguyn-
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For the record, it's blatantly apparent TWIE is playing similar to how he played in survivor, which not only says he's scum but also that he has a team full of people he expects won't be able to last long, and has given up before the game has even gotten started. that being said, I'm not really jonesing to lynch lurker pondscum on day 1. I'd rather lynch spammy scum that fill the thread with bullshit (Hint: If you two say one more time you weren't giving excuses I will go in your iso and quote every single excuse).
@Ceph- So what you're telling me is, LLD didn't try to set up a coasting scheme in Mod Error early on, then suddenly retract and act like she was actually going to do things? No, your'e clearly right and your scumread on me makes totally perfect sense.
@MS, most likely it's HH+the person HH is hydrating as a scumteam, and the other as town. The hydrated person is distancing while HH tries to advance his team.
Wisdom's townread on me smells really bad because me not trolling is something I don't think I've ever seen done in a game which shouldn't be like "Oh must be added on to pie being town".
Also, the wagon on us is stupid.notscience + pieguyn-
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In post 741, Cait Sith wrote:No, sorry, we don't need anymore.
You have 24 hours to give a read on me.notscience + pieguyn-
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In post 752, singersigner wrote:HOW DOES THIS EVEN MAKE SENSE.
If you find scum, you find scum. You don't let them rally overnight with the rest of their team. Geezus fuck, guys. How do you reconcile that kind of scum hunting when you can't even use associative tells until a flip??
Because I'm trying to view this as "Which of my scumreads poses a bigger threat the longer they are left alive" and the answer is Sonic. A lurkerscum doesn't bug me because we can always lynch them tomorrow, but if someone is a spamming scumfuck that can and will flood the thread and induce apathy, I'd much rather lynch them.notscience + pieguyn-
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Also, if I didn't care about being a near-universal scumread, I wouldn't have reached out to the one hydra I expect to be able to read me that doesnt have a weird ass readslist where I get townpoints for doing something I have never done before.
The only reason I responded to singer's post as such is because I'm 95% sure I've already laid out why I'm nervous about scum induced hyperactivity leading into apathy. But, that doesn't matter because that's sounds like something scum would say rather than town who has used said tactic as scum before and is actively avoiding it. So, whatever.
I'm currently weighing my thoughts on how mario has approached our slot. Someone stated a semblance of some points against it, he looked and agreed, then does some baseless VCA with no flips to go on without Titus commenting, which bugs me because as someone who is self-proclaimed to be an expert at VCA, cherrypicked votecounts and deciding some people on a wagon are scum (granted, statistically yes, the odds are in favor of there being scum on the wagon), she opted not to comment. I'm not sure it's because mario is scum, I'm currently leaning noobtown not sure how to develop his own opinion and wants to help support others.
Also a thing I've noted- a lot of the townreads I've seen coming out on us (Bropidgeon, Wisdomsaysstayoutofthefreezer, axehole) have very little in the way of explanation behind them. Axehole's read essentially was that our posting just seems town, Wis said that looked like town-pie and that me not trolling looked town, and then bropidgeon said I was town and when pie corrected them because I hadnt posted they were like "oh still looks town" which I'm not sure I believe that they are reading both of us the same despite us being in a hydra. That being said, I doubt all of them are scum but I think it's likely one or two of the three are, but they aren't aligned together.
My statements regarding TWIE still stand.notscience + pieguyn-
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TWIE because he looks like survivor
Oversoul because his play this game is reminding me of LLD's play in mod error
Sonic because it sohuldn't have been that hard to get things out of them andthey are both lying about making excuses but I do realize that this one is iffy as I think on it some
Wis/Giffy primarily because of that stupid read on us and I didnt dig their early gamenotscience + pieguyn-
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It's that titus is a self-proclaimed VCA expert
Let me put it this way- if you are an expert on drawing stick figures, and you see someone draw a stick figure without any arms or legs, would you point out their mistake? It's not an issue with mario, like I said last page I think its noobtown who isnt sure of themselves. It's Titus not pointing out the issues.notscience + pieguyn-
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In post 787, Sonic Boom wrote:Seiko, I did not consider that a VCA but a theoretical observation. A VCA on day 1 is ludicrous. Stating there's likely scum on a large wagon that he disagrees with is not a VCA.
Your stance on TWIE was literally ripped from my prior posts but for the fact that I am not labeling TWIE as a bad lynch because he is active lurking. You refused to give any sort of comment on TWIE but now that I highlight you could be buddies, I get this garbage.
I am letting Sonic go after you as I think you're scum with TWIE. I will only curtail him to the extent necessary for protecting mental health. Good luck.
Yes, I clearly dissected all of your earlier posts and glued them together rather than give my actual input based on being his fucking scumbuddy in that game. So no, no thank you. I was asked to give thoughts on TWIE and I did, don't act like it's because you tried to call us scumbuddies. I responded as soon as I fucking caught up so shut the holy fuck up.notscience + pieguyn-
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In post 790, Ricastle wrote:Seiko is flailing pathetically. Seiko, actually respond to the case on you or you're dead.
Rune, BRO, TWIE, Seiko, all caught within the first 30 pages! This game is going flipping brilliantly.
On another note, Singer is now a townread.
Why don't you take this and shove it up your ass
Oh, that's right
It's too busy with all the scum in it
But you enjoy that, don't you?notscience + pieguyn-
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In post 799, Bacon and Egg wrote:It's not just the no trolling. Your play generally has a townvibe to it that I don't envision seeing from you-scum. No trolling was just the easiest way I could describe it.
~Wis
Well why don't you outline it for the chucklefucks thennotscience + pieguyn-
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I don't think every scum in the game decided to wagon me, no
But right now I think scum have rallied all the lynchbait and all the idiots they can and its all one uniform push
I think Mario is town.
Rune might be town.
Ricastle maybe, but his whole "these 4 are scum" thing likely has 1, maximum 2 scum in it
Titus/MS are so full of shit but it doesn't matter because charisma or something like that?
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In post 807, MarioManiac4 wrote:He's been extremely anytical and has posted long and detailed posts, which is what I think experienced/good players do as town.
Why is this a town-only trait?notscience + pieguyn-
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