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(Also, we maaaaaaaaaaaay suffer a lil' bit of dissonance. No QT, no PT, no chat, we're kinda winging it at the moment. For instance, I maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay already have something impulsive in mind... )
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notty if you don't town it up and town it up soon I will lynch you.In post 31, Fluff Central wrote:VOTE: Oil Tycoons
Hi guys. This is a game with a fuckton of hydra, so we all need to be considerate of our postcounts. Please please please try to keep them under control, if someone's posting gets over the top out of control they need to be purged. That is all.
I think this is scum, but I'd need to double-check some things to be sure.
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In post 64, Kuroko Network wrote:Bullshit.Skill in arms attained these princes from a Brahman warrior bold,
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In post 68, Oil Tycoons wrote:No.
In at least one fashion, you would be wrong. It's just serious in a different way than "serious" is usually meant in that context.Skill in arms attained these princes from a Brahman warrior bold,
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After about two seconds of research, I have decided it is probably not an alt.
It didn't even take me two seconds to decide that I don't care whether it is or not, so I cannot explain why I still tried to determine that.Skill in arms attained these princes from a Brahman warrior bold,
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Well we have a PT now, but it's not really that we decided to go with a strategy, so much as...well, that's what happened. Ceph warned me before the game began that he's pretty bad about correspondence, and when he didn't immediately make a topic, I just made the assumption he wouldn't. (He...sort-of did? By repurposing an old one, I think.)In post 36, Luna Fox wrote:
Why did you decide to go with this strategy?In post 34, Wall of Fire wrote:Also, we maaaaaaaaaaaay suffer a lil' bit of dissonance. No QT, no PT, no chat, we're kinda winging it at the moment. For instance, I maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay already have something impulsive in mind...
Unpopular opinion: Oil Tycoons are actually scum.
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It might, with adjusted targets.In post 122, Tammy wrote:So, no response to this? The fire thing must not have meant what I thought it did.
That was us, not Nachosyr. Nachosyr is a different hydra.In post 110, Medea the Alien wrote:So yeah what nachosyr said. In fact they were on the receiving end of most of those scum games.
Specifically it was Ceph since obviously, I'm here now.Skill in arms attained these princes from a Brahman warrior bold,
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Look, I can get people thinkingIn post 147, Fluff Central wrote:
That is such a mastin vote.In post 62, Wall of Fire wrote:VOTE: LynxKuroneko
If I said this vote was serious, would you believe me?I'mCeph. After all, I'm notorious for faking the style of my hydra partner when hydraing, just for the lulz.
...But how the hell can someone seriously see a Ceph post as being me? His tone's completely different.
Bingo.In post 143, Luna Fox wrote:Tho im not a mind reader and that person only has 1 post so i have no idea.
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Huh, never heard of this, but it's a nice piece of music. Thanks for showing me, Ceph!In post 153, Wall of Fire wrote:
HadIn post 215, Fluff Central wrote:mastina- I'm not really confident in my ability to read her, plus she hasn't actually posted yet.so.
My RVS posting is my most important posting. Or confirmation-stage posting, as it were.
I approve of Ceph's product and/or service, there's that.In post 208, Oil Tycoons wrote:It seems to be very much a Cephrir action and not a mastin action, which is significant to me and will come into play once I see how mastina interacts with the situation she's inherited.Skill in arms attained these princes from a Brahman warrior bold,
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In post 208, Oil Tycoons wrote:As for now, it's not a concern; I don't think the reasons actually exist that make the Lynx wagon a good one and don't think the majority of the town will follow and so Cephrir will eventually be forced to abandon or explain
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In post 275, Oil Tycoons wrote:In post 268, Wall of Fire wrote:I approve of Ceph's product and/or service, there's that.
Well this is disappointing as all hell.
Perhaps it is related to understanding the product!Skill in arms attained these princes from a Brahman warrior bold,
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In post 279, Perpetual Nonsense wrote:[not caught up]
Hello Pie! And Fire is Mastina/Ceph. Ceph...will be disappointed that WE shall become quieter in the morn
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In post 396, Kuroko Network wrote:For the record, I'm scumreading him. I dislike how his reads are lacking in reasoning, specifically his scumread on my slot which appears to be slipping a vote on the player of the day, while not providing an inkling of a scumread or any indication of his thought process.
In post 398, Kuroko Network wrote:In post 378, Wisdom wrote:
VOTE: kuroko
btw Echo Echo asked me to hydra as well, but I refused. I'm pretty sure I know who he is, too.
This seems like a very lazy attempt to slip on a vote on whom he thinks is the largest wagon -- he might not be aware that there is only one vote on me.
I'd expect town to at least say "Oh, and Kuroko is scum", or "I agree with Tammy's points" before making that vote. However, his subsequent statement does not have any link whatsoever to any reasoning for his vote.
Also, I doubt he knows who I am.
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In post 421, Kuroko Network wrote:You continue to obfuscate by pursuing a line of questioning that eventually provide little of value to the overall gamestate.
You have yet to consider the posts of players in a holistic manner and deduce their alignment.
You fail to provide reads on more players despite your self-proclaimed genius at catching scum in the early game.
In short, you're not scumhunting. Ergo, you're scum.
VOTE: Kuroko.
In post 423, Kuroko Network wrote:Here is a link to Wisdom's most recent Large Theme non-ongoing scumgame.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=62167
To those of you who were following the game: Do you want this? Do you really want this?
Vote for a better tomorrow. Vote Wisdom.
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I think that OT is town.
I think that Tammy is obvtowning, but it still has something about it that could be faked to me.
I think that Ika is town.
I think that Zelink is hilarious.
I think that Luna Fox is town.
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Also, I wanted to push Lynx because in a sample size of one game I observed that he responded to pressure as scum by flailing. But we'll probably know his alignment by day three anyway, as I don't think reading him is hard.Skill in arms attained these princes from a Brahman warrior bold,
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In post 484, Oil Tycoons wrote:oh yeah Tammy what did you think of Bert's posts around the time of our argument? It seemed to me a really town Bert thing to do to ramble on about his paranoia of me while we were fighting, has good progression because he asked you about your read on me earlier I think. I especially liked the part where he accused me of placating and reassuring him when he got defensive.
Not that you asked me: I am now townreading Bert.Skill in arms attained these princes from a Brahman warrior bold,
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In post 489, Oil Tycoons wrote:For the same reasons I am or...?
Yes, because of your post.Skill in arms attained these princes from a Brahman warrior bold,
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In post 539, Wisdom wrote:i don't buy that being a post restriction. It's just zelink thinking he's being funny.
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In post 534, Tammy wrote:In post 425, Kuroko Network wrote:Please continue to post irrelevant bullshit in response to being caught. I'll wait for the other players to follow my lead, and you shall be forced to night kill me, failing which, the rest of your team will go insane and crumble as I pick out their brains one by one.
I'm trying to decide how I feel about this response to wisdom.
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In post 571, Cephrir wrote:In post 552, Kuroko Network wrote:
Wisdom's posting is, put bluntly, scummy as fuck. I think he can be fairly transparently read based on the level of conviction and effort he puts into his pushes, and his push on our slot is severely lacking in that department. There's no pointed questioning and no actual "push" anywhere towards us during his push on us (rather than actually, you know, providing actual reasons for using be scum here, he spends all his time talking about who he thinks Echo is). I want Nacho to tell me if/why he disagrees with this when he gets back.
No it's not
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In post 586, Kuroko Network wrote:I don't like the way Cephrir is handling this, and his above post is no exception. It's not scum hunting, it's him seeing votes on us and thinking he can go along with it while hoping no one realizes his push doesn't hold water. 477 is nothing but semantic nonsense (it's fairly obvious Echo's point is that Wisdom does have reasoning behind the read on us, just that it's incredibly poor). The post where he voted us (Echo's 421) is actually a fairly concise explanation of what is wrong with Wisdom's play here, followed by more semantic nonsense (Echo wasn't even suggesting a policy lynch in that post).
I don't mind AJ's vote as much.
I am not especially scumhunting yet, I just felt something was an incorrect representation of events and voted it. When have you known non-alt Cephrir to be seriously scumhunting on page 20?
I don't feel that I have seen Wisdom push you at all really until you brought the issue up, and that post definitely reads like "wisdom is dangerous scum/not fun to play with so we should just lynch him"Skill in arms attained these princes from a Brahman warrior bold,
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In post 603, Kuroko Network wrote:In post 595, Wall of Fire wrote:I don't feel that I have seen Wisdom push you at all really until you brought the issue up, and that post definitely reads like "wisdom is dangerous scum/not fun to play with so we should just lynch him"
Yes, that is exactly my point.
If Wisdom actually thought we were scum, he would be doing a hell of a lot more to push us over it than ... what he has been doing.
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In post 618, Muki wrote:Why do you want to build a wagon? (Please understand that this is my first game with y'all, so I may be missing obvious sarcasm/metas).
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In post 655, Kamigami wrote:Skim heavily, they really aren't bad posts.
From the ones I did skim, I find his trajectories disturbingly static.Skill in arms attained these princes from a Brahman warrior bold,
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No.In post 298, Oil Tycoons wrote:Waiting for Mastin to explain or followup on that scumread on my slot.
Also, stop posting so much.
I'm reading the posts.
In one ear, out the other. They're just noise to me.
The value of posting has become devalued.
Nice try. 7/10.In post 373, ZeL1nK2 wrote:Greetings, everyone. My name is ZeL1nK2 and it is a pleasure to be playing with all of you fine people.
Spoiler: reduction
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Zelink is doing a (very, very poor) job of parodying my posting.In post 379, Wisdom wrote:zelink please stop walling. I didn't read a single word you posted, nor do I intend to.Skill in arms attained these princes from a Brahman warrior bold,
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Apparently we're gonna need to arrange a talking-to.In post 571, Cephrir wrote:
No it's notIn post 552, Kuroko Network wrote:Wisdom's posting is, put bluntly, scummy as fuck. I think he can be fairly transparently read based on the level of conviction and effort he puts into his pushes, and his push on our slot is severely lacking in that department. There's no pointed questioning and no actual "push" anywhere towards us during his push on us (rather than actually, you know, providing actual reasons for using be scum here, he spends all his time talking about who he thinks Echo is). I want Nacho to tell me if/why he disagrees with this when he gets back.Skill in arms attained these princes from a Brahman warrior bold,
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Secrets for the cool kids.In post 618, Muki wrote:@bolded piece - such as?
Fire's always good, especially when taking impressive forms. Like a giant wall.Are you implying fire is bad, and why?Skill in arms attained these princes from a Brahman warrior bold,
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Technically I was saying, "No, I'm not going to follow-through, because I don't feel like saying anything", but fine. You reached out, you can have it. <3In post 697, Oil Tycoons wrote:
No. This is one of my towngames at its highest level. If you're interested in fixing what's broken between us, you have to learn to distinguish playing from seriousness.In post 691, Wall of Fire wrote:No.
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In post 698, Tammy wrote:In post 689, Tammy wrote:
Did you know why I asked this?In post 170, Tammy wrote:
Are you a ring?In post 165, Wall of Fire wrote:Though it should be noted that I legitimately find his confirm post scummy.Skill in arms attained these princes from a Brahman warrior bold,
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In post 771, Kuroko Network wrote:Oh look, the cavalry arrived. How cute. Welcome back, Wisdom.
In post 763, Wisdom wrote:There has been no push on Kuroko, or anyone else, from me, therefore arguing that my push on them is weak and different than how I push as town is bullshit, because simply, I have not pushed them.
See, this is the problem, right here. You're misrepresenting my argument. I never said that you were pushing us, my issue lies in the fact how youdidn'tpush us. You slipped a shit vote on us with horseshit that is meant to make you look like you have something worthwhile doing.
Speaking of your pushes, where have they been? Surely you have caught up already. After I've knocked you out of control in the game, your scumface has nowhere to hide and is ripe for the noose. As town you would already have obtained a couple of townreads on people, and scumread at least one person, while pushing or defending them as the situation calls. Right now, you're voting someone you aren't even scumreading. This is not even town behavior, not even for your standards.
In post 762, Aj The Epic wrote:Wait, I'm supposed to let the "Yes Wisdom meant to vote for the largest wagon but is blinder than Stevie Wonder" go? How is the pure fabricated bullshit of 'he didn't read a vote count' a legitimate belief?
You fool. The entire topic of discussion was about myself for the past few pages. Just after your post, it came right from the horse's mouth that he was "sheeping" strong town voices. It comes as no surprise that he decides to put a vote on the easiest target (keeping in mind that your largest aforementioned wagon had only three votes) while fabricating justification that doesn't really pass the bullshit test. Meanwhile, you continue with this elementary angle of attack based upon your incorrect semantic assumptions about the crux of my argument, while ignoring the main motivations behind my push on Wisdom.
In post 762, Aj The Epic wrote:And then you want to tell me a naked vote is more null to you?
Did I not already make a statement that a naked vote is null, while one that is embellished with bullshit to look like a reasonable vote is scummy? Then I'll say it again.
In post 762, Aj The Epic wrote:But by definition, that's a naked vote. So you like select naked votes by select people. But now the fact that he didn't explain his town reads is an issue and, on the vote, it was unexplained and so also an issue. And certainly, WoF's vote on you had the prior reasons of, and I quote, ":/". There are quotes where he specifies what makes him ":/" but nothing much more than Wisdom's own vote. You're picking and choosing what you like, not by some scum tell, but by preconceived notions.
This is a strawman argument. Continue defending your buddy with semantic bullshit while twisting my words to fit your agenda. Wisdom's vote included overtly unnecessary redressive action that was inappropriate for an ordinary town-motivated "naked" vote. Feel free to call it whatever it is you wish, maybe a "clothed" vote. Because underneath, it's just skin and bones.
Aj The Epic diving in like Wisdom's knight of shining armor while delivering misrepresentations of my argument only confirm my belief that I have caught two scum, with one case.
Tell me, Aj, for the record, are you townreading Wisdom? Why?
(I've noticed some new posts, will get to them in my next post.)
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