Greater Idea Mafia (Endgame)

[Luna Fox]

Mollie is an idiot or scum. Im hoping scum.

Youre the lyncher. You havent suggested a scumread anywhere else

So let me tell you something

Lyncher (target to the left;

or on forum: target above in playerlist

; or on skype/chat: target chosen randomly from all other players)
Lyncher (target to the right;

or on forum: target below in playerlist

; or on skype/chat: target chosen randomly from all other players)

The only ppl above or below Delenn are Level 1-1 and Firebringer.
So no.

[Luna Fox]

I knew it.

-Ank

Knew what

That you were an alt.

-Ank

Pretty sure i said i wasn't

[Luna Fox]

@TSO: I'll lend you my vote on Delenn if and only if we're running close to deadline and i don't find anything else i want to lynch, in which case i'd be ok verifying the unlynchable claim, in the meantime there's a bunch of other people we should be looking at, if Delenn is groupscum, she's not alone (Well maybe she is considering the setup)

[Luna Fox]

This game is depressing, how many pages of lynch titus has it been now?

[Luna Fox]

Sure
VOTE: Vedith
HEY AMIANKI LOOK IM VOTING THE PERSON YOU DONT WANT ME TO.

[Luna Fox]

That's pathetic and anti-town, Luna, but you can do what you want.

Sorry but i rather lynch someone that has a chance of actually providing a scum flip, than someone that has a chance of not flipping at all, my night action was created to sort those. Unless you're worried that your lyncher target becomes conf town and then no one wants to lynch them? (Yes im actually buying the lyncher argument now)

[Luna Fox]

Shiro just basically said the same thing I said in more words.

[Luna Fox]

You don't sort unlynchables by lynching them, you sort them via night actions.
Just like you don't sort bulletproofs by vigging them, or millers by copping them.
Trying to sort an unlynchable claim by lynching them is like telling the cop to scan a miller.

[Luna Fox]

If Im bad, youre the shit I wipe my foot off with.

Please, dont insult others like this.

[Luna Fox]

I think the whole ad hom between Greninja and TSO needs to stop, Ad hom isn't a convincing argument i.e (You're bad, you're going to look bad) that's Appeal to fear if anything, and insulting TSO in response isnt going to make you look more convincing.

[Luna Fox]

TSO if you want to convince me to lynch Delenn, tell me in a bullet point case why they are scum, indicating post links if preferable, otherwise you're just yelling "They're scum lynch them" and that's not a convincing argument.

[Luna Fox]

@ika: Your 2nd VC still has Greninja instead of Frog

[Luna Fox]

I'm just gonna say i'm dissapointed with what i just saw, i didn't think people in here would resort to cheap tactics such as taunting the person that's arguing against you to get them force replaced, it has killed any motivation i had.

[Luna Fox]

1526 is the best post i've seen in the entire game, Art is town forever and I kinda feel like continue trying now.

[Luna Fox]

Are you just gonna spend the entire game discrediting everything i do.

[Luna Fox]

...
You know, technically everything's easy to fake.
Because in a forum we're just typing words.
We can fake rage by typing in all caps.
We can fake emotion in our replies.
We can fake everything, since no one's actually looking at our faces.

But, What i can't stand, is people like you, that keep saying "OH THAT'S NOT FAKEABLE" to everything.
Tehcnically i could say none of what you've posted can't be faked.
Would you like that?

It's not about it not being fakeable, Art is taking a very pro town stance in everything that's happening instead of letting himself fall for following the loudest crowd. And is pointing out that nothing that has been risen against Delenn is followed by any case at all, he's showing Critical Thinking instead of Following the Crowd. THAT is town, and THAT deserves a townread and what YOU are doing is discrediting.

[Luna Fox]

It's not about it not being fakeable, Art is taking a very pro town stance in everything that's happening instead of letting himself fall for following the loudest crowd. And is pointing out that nothing that has been risen against Delenn is followed by any case at all, he's showing Critical Thinking instead of Following the Crowd. THAT is town, and THAT deserves a townread and what YOU are doing is discrediting.

The only relevant stance I could get from that post is that he doesn't support a Delenn wagon. The entire post is solely about dismantling the Delenn wagon; he's not trying to push anyone else at all.

-Ank

Then you clearly didnt read the post

[Luna Fox]

Maybe, why are you still voting the claimed Bloodhound?

[Luna Fox]

Ok jeesh i was wrong, but at least let me get a scan off tonight before you lynch me @Amianki >.> I fully expect to be lynched tomorrow for "being wrong" since apparently that's a sin on this site.

Vote: Rabble

[Luna Fox]

I think Art's town tho...

[Luna Fox]

I was going to ask for doctor tonight, but now im just going to explicitly ask for no doctor tonight, i rather scum shoot me to silence me so i dont get a scan off tonight than having to deal with the inevitable mislynch that's coming for "being wrong"

[Luna Fox]

since Saulus and the scumteam don't know each other for obvious reasons.

This is true actually.

[Luna Fox]

Titus wanted to be scum and was playing a scumgame.

Uh if she didnt want to convert why was she playing a scumgame?

[Luna Fox]

Being wrong isn't scummy. It's your associations with Delenn that look really bad.

-Ank

Fine, lynch me today then, im done trying

[Luna Fox]

I guess i'm just not used to townhunting.
Trying to reverse read Titus still yielded misreading her, everytime i read her as town she flips scum and viceversa, so i was scumreading her here and that made me think she was town so i hard defended her, and STILL managed to read her wrong.

[Luna Fox]

Ugh whatever gets us to the night so i can get a result or die to a NK

Vote: Art

[Luna Fox]

Damn Lady Luna. Why you ninja my everything...Why ? ;~;

It's ok, im probably dead tonight or tomorrow anyway, It's my fate, im always mislynched at some point, better done before any LyLo happens.

[Luna Fox]

Damn Lady Luna. Why you ninja my everything...Why ? ;~;

It's ok, im probably dead tonight or tomorrow anyway, It's my fate, im always mislynched at some point, better done before any LyLo happens.

Stop being so defeatist Dx

BotLanes case on you is so bad not even Kaboose would sheep it

I'm sorry, but that's what's going to happen, because mafia wont have an issue sheeping a case onto me, specially if they can get rid of an investigative role, unfortunately the only time im ever townread in a game is when i'm scum.

[Luna Fox]

But at least we got Titus out of the way via Vigilante. It stops us wasting multiple lynches on Titus, as well as stopping us from overly focusing on Titus too.

The funny thing is that if we had lynched titus instead of shooting her she would've converted to town.

[Luna Fox]

Although i guess that's why she didnt want me to bloodhound her. I would've gotten a Not Town result.

[Luna Fox]

She clearly didnt want to convert and preferred to die to a bullet by being mafia, otherwise she wouldn't have fought the lynch on her so hard.

[Luna Fox]

Also Titus not knowing who her scumpartners were would explain why i got a false negative, i usually hate dealing with traitors and SKs and the like because they scumhunt too.

[Luna Fox]

We also didnt know if it was true about the unlynchable or not, but i wasn't willing to risk the Day 1 lynch on "MAYBE SHE'S LYING ABOUT IT", my mindset's always on the side of helping town win, and in it's current scenario that means that i need to be lynched/NK'd before LyLo.

[Luna Fox]

Also Titus not knowing who her scumpartners were would explain why i got a false negative, i usually hate dealing with traitors and SKs and the like because they scumhunt too.

To be fair, in Greater Idea, all factions scumhunt, since other scum are a bigger priority for them than town. This is one game-type where scumhunting is nowhere near as alignment-indicative.

Yeah i usually get a lot of false negatives with my townhunt strategy on multiball, tho i in'd mostly coz i liked the crazyness.

[Luna Fox]

Ok good to know i shouldn't bloodhound you then.

[Luna Fox]

Ok good to know i shouldn't bloodhound you then.

You were going to bloudhound him ?

Did you miss the part where this is multiball?

[Luna Fox]

Basically no one should be cleared just because they caught scum, my role does get hard town/not town statements tho which means if i hit town that person becomes pretty much unlynchable, i don't see why TSO would be shot over someone like me and im not sure how i feel about that claim.

[Luna Fox]

Basically no one should be cleared just because they caught scum, my role does get hard town/not town statements tho which means if i hit town that person becomes pretty much unlynchable, i don't see why TSO would be shot over someone like me and im not sure how i feel about that claim.

It not that he caught scum. It is that he caught scum while making himself a HUGE target. As scum that only means drawbacks.

So tell me, assume you were scum (let's suppose werewolf since it's a different faction than mafia), would you shoot
TSO who caught mafia saulus
Claimed Bloodhound who has a chance to get a Town/Not Town result over the night.

That being said, that claim is the only thing i find sketchy, i do guess it does deserve town points for trying to fend off doctors, but i don't understand why he thought he would be shot over a bloodhound.

[Luna Fox]

Oh wow west, in your quotes i just realized that firebringer was calling Delenn mislynch bait while sitting in the back. I didn't even remember that.

[Luna Fox]

delenn is pretty much mislynch bait.

Nobody else want to acknowledge that?

^
This right here. And in the same post calls Level opportunistic for jumping onto Delenn
v

Also anyone want to notice how Level 1-1 opportunistic seems? Jumping wagons pretty easily.

And then slips a vote on me, calling me "being odd"
Am I the only noticing this?

[Luna Fox]

Oh yeah here mine:

Supersaint over Serial Killer (Protection from alien and werewolf kills)
X over Wild Card
Vanilla Townie over Werewolf Alpha.

^
kthxbye, also i claimed Town Bloodhound.

[Luna Fox]

The thing i do give you tho is that it appears that Greninja has a preference for scum roles, like picking mafia gov over survivor, since they've been constantly saying they have a 3P role in Game 2 it's kinda odd that on G2 they would pick a 3P role over a Mafia role.

[Luna Fox]

With those cards from G1 and G3 tho, do you think it was Sala or Frogger calling the shots there.

[Luna Fox]

Also i was theory and conspirancy crafting and after further analysis i can concede that Vedith is indeed 100% Town.

[Luna Fox]

Spoiler: Analysys i was doing in my head

Also, tinfoil hat.

Delenn had no knowledge of her scumteam, she was heavily supporting the Vedith wagon.
Why wouldnt an hypothetical Scum Vedith shoot Delenn for towncred over risk having her converted by Lynch?
This makes sense if Vedith was never on the Delenn wagon.
Vedith was on the Delenn wagon.
But then Vedith could be on another scum team
So at least Vedith's 100% Not Mafia
The only Day Vigs are Town and Mafia
Conclusion: Vedith's 100% Town

[Luna Fox]

I had VT twice why aren't you bringing me up as well ?

12 Vanilla Townie cards.

L-1 Had Conspiracy theorist twice Why aren't you bringing them up ?

3 Conspirancy Theorist cards

Why bring only greninja up for it ?

1 Mafia Compulsive Comuter card

?

Also stop strawmanning please.

[Luna Fox]

It's obvious that kthxbye's points against greninja arent based solely on discards, but also on their defense of Delenn and VCA, trying to discredit the weaker point (discards) to discredit the whole case is a strawman.

[Luna Fox]

I love how im now in everyone's lynch pool.
I probably shouldn't play with Titus again, it's been confirmed i've read her right 0 out of at least 4 times and i always get accused for it.

[Luna Fox]

Anti you really think rabble is most likely scum over fro9 and luna?

yeah. I don't think I'll play with titus again...

...

[Luna Fox]

Luna - you're not going to be shot because you have zero credibility right now, while I have significantly more.

...

[Luna Fox]

You have killed any remaining desire i had to solve the game.
See this is what happens everytime, people scumread me and then people never listen to me.
What good does it do to be called a 'great scumhunter' if people are just gonna scumread me, mislynch me, and ignore me all the time unless i'm playing with people that know me.
This is the 4th time titus have fooled me, so the correct play would be to stop playing in games with Titus? No, but that doesn't make me scum, that doesn't invalidate everything else i do in the game.
But since that's the approach you guys are going to take i might as well ensure i get myself lynched then.

I lied about being a Bloodhound, im a 1-shot PGO and was trying to draw scum harmful actions towards me, and this is also why, i was trying to fend off doctors from protecting me, so they wouldn't die by targeting me.
Go ahead and lynch me now since scum are never going to touch me during the night

Spoiler: Stuff for anyone that cares since apparently meta is so goddamn important in this site

I'm a Sakura Hana alt

[Luna Fox]

I feel I am the only one still trying ot keep a positive attitude in this game.

Nobody said your effort is invalidated. TSO just said that for being wrong it will just need more work to balance it out. Also I will point out again that only a few people actually scumread you and from those hiplop and BotLone seems to be the only ones actually into the scumread with PH being more like meh could be scum.

I think Hiplop is town but BotLane has a solid chance of being scum imop so yea.

I get the frustration of not being taken seriously for reason A or B but that doesn't need to stop you from having fun in the game neither to want to get yourself lynched so please stop the defeatist attitude and play the game to win. If you make a compeling argument people will take note of it despite what happened with the Delenn.

So yea do stay and do try to game solve. You are a fun person to play with.

Here adorable Shiro picture to make you feel better

Thank you for the kind words, unfortunately once i have an emotional breakdown on a game there's no coming back, i'm going to be branded for being wrong and i lose all confidence and tend to just sheep for the rest of the game, is one of the large reasons why this usually ends in replacing out, but im not going to do that here, there's already enough harm done onto this slot, and i'll take it with full responsibility even if that ends in my mislynch. But please... at least do it sooner rather than letting scum do it during LyLo.

[Luna Fox]

Vote: Rabble

[Luna Fox]

Re: 1673 If my gut is wrong again im going to cry.

[Luna Fox]

Also i'm totally expecting a certain reaction from a certain player after my out, which will determine whether they are a townread or a scumread from here on out.

[Luna Fox]

Why are you trying to excuse yourself going "OH LOOK I ALSO THOUGHT THEY WERE SCUM!"

[Luna Fox]

Why are dead people still talking

[Luna Fox]

If anybody else wants to know something though that would be fine.

Why did you misrepresent purple hero?

[Luna Fox]

I guess "Anybody else" applies only to people that dont fall for the shenanigans they are pulling.

[Luna Fox]

that

dont

fall for the shenanigans they are pulling.

Fixed that for me

[Luna Fox]

1890 and 1899

[Luna Fox]

I thought BP's are lynched because their BP claim explains them not being night killed, so they are usually lynched before LyLo.

Also guys ^ Same logic applies to all claims that are fear to touch during the night i.e. mine and TSO's. Town acts as a team, not as a single leader, because if that leader's scum, that's the momment you lose, something to think about.

[Luna Fox]

I wish Mr "Mod confirmed townie" here would at least scumhunt.

[Luna Fox]

Town acts as a team, not as a single leader, because if that leader's scum, that's the moment you lose, something to think about.

This is true, but in practice, without leaders town is a disjointed headless mess. A leader is easily vetted; if he gets scum lynched he's a good leader, if not he sucks.

Well excuse me if I'm paranoid about giving someone the title of leader just because they caught scum
The game in the link had a werewolf cop that succesfully caught Scum on Days 1 and 2, becoming "town leader" and only lost because him and the mafia crosskilled each other, your Town Black Goo claim makes this harder to happen, and since you can't be sorted during the night you will need to die before LyLo sound fair?

[Luna Fox]

Despie that tho, i still dont fully trust you, specially because you're assuming the position of town leader after the Delenn flip, guess what, that's the sort of thing scum likes to do, Town on the other hand likes to discuss and work as a team. News Flash! Other factions (Werewolf, Alien, 3p) can also catch Mafia, the only people i fully believe to be town right now are Vedith (who is impossible to be mafia unless he literally wasted a 1-shot shooting a teammate), and Antihero (Meta), and possibly Botlane (Because i doubt Amianki would choose scum if he had the choice, and discarded Seer.), you're definitively not on my list of "Let's lynch this guy" today, but im not 100% convinced you're town unlike half the people here.

[Luna Fox]

Aristo voters, I won't mind if you switch over, but if rabble flips town then Aristophanes dies tomorrow.

^
Posts like this make me specially paranoid of you, like what the fuck is even this, why would people need your permission to switch wagons and why do we have to do what YOU say.

[Luna Fox]

Can I ask the reasons for votes on Rabble?
I'm just catching up site wide before properly here.

Backseat positioning while discrediting the Delenn wagon and pushing for yours, something Firebringer is also guilty of if i recall with the exception that he wasn't pushing your wagon.
In addition vote parking on a safe wagon that wouldn't take of <- from Purple Hero
Also misrepresenting Purple Hero (Anti never changed their words, well he did but only as a joke when they said he was doing so)

You could ISO purple hero there are more details there.

[Luna Fox]

But didn't you do that Luna?

No, i was hard-defending the fact that we shouldn't lynch an unlynchable and had a townread on Delenn and kept asking if it wasnt a better idea to sort them with a Bloodhound action rather than lynch, I did vote your wagon too.
RRR on the other hand just sit in the background doing nothing.

[Luna Fox]

Also, Elvis is basically confirmed town, Luna. They should also be on your list of definitely town.

The mod put the discard of one player on another player iirc? i haven't seen any other mod errors, so idk why he should be mod confirmed town, if he is confirmed town, then he should play like one.

[Luna Fox]

Luna you have

just sparkled up

why you are voting for Rabble for me...

I don't understand what this means, can you say it in different words please

[Luna Fox]

No. The mod put their other choice, the one they chose, as their discard. Elvis pointed this out right away, and davstro also recognized it.

hmm k.
Still that's not excuse for them to not being more pro-active, but i guess if it was a mod slip then i can let that be.

[Luna Fox]

VOTE: Art
L-2

[Luna Fox]

Haven't really liked anything Art has done since the Delenn flip, with their "Oh hey we did push for Delenn at X point, do we get town points for that?" and "Oh i dont think RRR is scum, but now i increased their scum cred saying that".

Feels kinda misdirectionaryish stuff.

[Luna Fox]

@Luna That is not true. You specifically said that you loved one of their posts and made them town forever.

I am aware of that, that happened before the Delenn flip, I haven't liked anything they've done after the Delenn flip.

[Luna Fox]

@Luna That is not true. You specifically said that you loved one of their posts and made them town forever.

well, I guess forever is still finite.

My math teacher once told me infinity was finite.
If she had said I was town forever and a day, it'd be the whole "to infinity and beyond" argument and then they'd be scum for it.

Yay math!

if you think i'm scum for flipping my read on you then why aren't you voting me, unless you think i'm town?
Either way it was just as a means to show that the read was strong, you're right that i shouldn't have used an absolute tho, but further evidence and play has downgraded that read a lot, so, sorry not sorry.

[Luna Fox]

10 points to Griffin doe!

Griffindor**

And the typo of the day award goes toooo!!!!

[Luna Fox]

Botlane, Werewolf, Killed night 1

^

@Mod: this color is hard to see on mafsilver :<

[Luna Fox]

Sorry Art for misreading you, your death will not be in vain.

[Luna Fox]

TSO is probably town just for how obvious the budding between him and botlane is, or rather Not werewolf, but with his push against Mafia Saulus yesterday im more inclined to think he might be town.
Iirc Amianki likes to leave false directions towards finding his partners via interactions, so we pretty much can't trust anything there, which is a shame, because at least that'd confirm me as not being werewolf :<

[Luna Fox]

I have a hard time finding art's final reads other than the fact that he thought i was town orz

[Luna Fox]

Mr Elvis says Rabble is town, shadowwez is scum.
Purple Hero says Rabble is scum and firebringer is scum, frogger maybe scum?
AAARGH orz
Davsto seems to have disliked Rabble too, and probably Grays Holly.
I'm having a hard time here.

[Luna Fox]

Oh yeah, firebringer also died... he scumread me and Lizard...

[Luna Fox]

VOTE: Grays Holly

[Luna Fox]

Actually you should start from the Delenn wagon stuff and move from there. The very early is not that useful

Hey, i made a case and pushed flipped scum :<

[Luna Fox]

Oh well it's not like it matters since technically i could still be Mafia

[Luna Fox]

Ika: I want

#BF00BF

[Luna Fox]

I was going to ask if any town targeted me last night.... then i realized that if anyone did they are dead now... WELP (inb4 firebringer targeted me)

[Luna Fox]

I was going to ask if any town targeted me last night.... then i realized that if anyone did they are dead now... WELP (inb4 firebringer targeted me)

So this could explain the large amount of deaths I guess?

the only one of the people that i could see targeting me is Firebringer, if PH had targeted me i would be dead, and Davsto was ascetic townie so he can't target ppl, also afaik whatever ability had hit me would still have had it's effect so nymphomaniac didn't target me either (otherwise i'd be dead since i'd be lovers with him)

[Luna Fox]

hmm i wonder who the nymphomaniac targeted, since they have to compulsively target someone N1, an extra death could be due to them dying + whoever targeted suicided

[Luna Fox]

hmm i wonder who the nymphomaniac targeted, since they have to compulsively target someone N1, an extra death could be due to them dying + whoever targeted suicided

How do you know it not the opposite that happened? The one they targeted died and he suiced for it ?

Because Mr Elvis was supposedly mod slip confirmed town?
I guess it's possible he targeted Davsto so his action would fail.

[Luna Fox]

Yeah i'd expect at least 1 scum of each faction on a town wagon, since those are the easiest to push when you have the other faction helping you and you know they aren't your faction.

[Luna Fox]

hiplop was in neither wagon, i don't think voting them atm is a good idea, and they were strongly pushing Delenn.

[Luna Fox]

Aristophanes: T S O, Botlane, Level 1-1, verdith, Shiro, Kaboose, west9, rabble rabble rabble, luna fox, davsto, aristophanes

Breakdown of unknowns:

TSO: Probably town, for reasons already mentioned.
Lv 1-1: was pushed by rabble, so there's some sort of connection there.
Verdith: I can still say with confidence this guy is town for the saulus shot and he can only be mafia or town.
Shiro: Possibly scum here.
west9: Possibly scum here.
Rabble: Connection with Lv 1-1.

Currently voting Gray Hellen because i find it odd that mala's just sitting there doing nothing. Other people i'd be happy voting include Either of Lv1-1/Rabble to see the connection there, Shiro or West.

[Luna Fox]

I decided to go do some research on how Mala plays as scum - according to her first post here she lurks as scum, and the three towngames didn't contain any lurking.

Her lurking here probably also points to Mala-scum.

Yes, thank you for showing something i had already mentioned.

[Luna Fox]

VOTE: Rabble
Choo choo

[Luna Fox]

Here is why purple hero could be dead. Mr Elvis could have picked him as a lover.

If Mr Elvis picked someone other than Davsto for their compulsive ability i don't know what to say.

[Luna Fox]

And now my scumread on Shiro's increasing...
Davsto was shown as ascetic multiple times in thread, there's no way Mr Elvis missed that and decided to become lovers with a townie instead of an ascetic who would cause their action to fail (since it's compulsive)

[Luna Fox]

The only person firebringer showed suspicion of was me, and if he had shot me i'd be dead, no doctors died so no doctor targeted me.
Although i'm still looking forward to seeing firebringer eat a shoe XD

[Luna Fox]

Oh wait firebringer was the JOAT and PH the vig, nevermind that last post

[Luna Fox]

Anyway, Greater Idea Mafia wiki #44:

Jack-of-all-trades (One Roleblock, One Cop, One Doctor)

Soooo, no, he couldn't have shot a thing.

[Luna Fox]

Why would they kill purple hero to help mislynch you, when they can keep him alive so purple hero himself mislynches you and (if you're town) flip town so then they can point the finger at him (not like they could, because anti-meta). It doesn't make any sense.

On the other hand, scum wanting to get rid of someone that makes their mislynch harder (if you're town) requires a lot of reverse psychology thinking, and you're just going for the WIFOM approach, which is NOT ok.

[Luna Fox]

Yeah i pretty much agree with all TSO said there.

[Luna Fox]

So someone got culted (hopefully scum) Since TSO was shot and he was indeed a black goo.

[Luna Fox]

Wait can scum even be recruited into cult?

[Luna Fox]

Huh, why?

TSO's issue with rabble was that they night killed PH, you proved it was the SK who NK'd PH.

[Luna Fox]

ok
VOTE: Rabble

[Luna Fox]

I do wonder how much more town remaining we have, we got 9 flipped town (10 if i include myself), and game can start with a minimum of 11 town...

[Luna Fox]

It's pretty likely that we can't win anymore tho? it's entirely possible that werewolf and mafia both combined outnumber town at this point, we got 1 flip from each, how many do you think are remaining from each? 8 alive atm.

[Luna Fox]

Oh wait it's 9 alive according to the 2nd post, mod said 8 alive for some reason...
Still im predicting at least 2 more per faction?
And why hasn't Vedith been NK'd yet...
Why didn't YOU die.

[Luna Fox]

So Shiro's a watcher hmm...

[Luna Fox]

Watchers can be werewolves, which means that if you're scum you're in a scumteam with botlane, that's where im currently looking at.

[Luna Fox]

I'm not sure why you're defending yourself when i haven't even said whether i think you're in the same scumteam with botlane or not.
All i did say is that if you were scum you'd be in a team with botlane.

[Luna Fox]

I'm a VT

Woot

[Luna Fox]

Why did you pick VT?

[Luna Fox]

Because I don't think anyone would pick Alien

Why?

[Luna Fox]

That reasoning relies on many "What ifs" and you're admitting to turning down an investigative PR in favor of nothing just because of them also being miller?
I can understand trading Miller for VT, but an investigative? really?

[Luna Fox]

Meanwhile you're not persuing the person who dropped mafcop over VT apparently?

Someone did that?

[Luna Fox]

Apparently he did it for "fun of being a VT without knowledge."

I'm talking about this game, not the others.
This game he discarded Watchlisted townie.
This game you favorited VT over CT, while in another game you favored CT over Mason Lover.

[Luna Fox]

Poor Shiro

[Luna Fox]

Watchlisted townie is a role that does nothing and is a miller
Conspirancy Theorist is an investigative role and is a miller.
There's plenty of difference.

[Luna Fox]

I .....How are you doing this ? This is a serious question

I'm a psychic

[Luna Fox]

So another one huh...

[Luna Fox]

I was hoping to not have to out this, but look further into the acronym VT

I dun get it

Vengeful Townie

[Luna Fox]

VOTE: hiplop

[Luna Fox]

And yes that is a vengeshot claim in case I get lynched

And here we see you don't even know what a vengeful townie does.....

They do the same thing aristo did.

[Luna Fox]

Hey level, i don't think scum would be as stupid as continue pushing you despite your vengeful claim do you disagree? while it's frustrating for you i don't think that makes kthx scum, and if he's scum he's mafia (due to his suspicions towards botlane D1).

Spoiler: @Level1-1

Do you think this is the same hiplop that played Disney upick?

[Luna Fox]

They don't use signatures, the mario head types normally, the other head types in italics

[Luna Fox]

My other head already claimed? GFDI.

Anything else important happen, or just 13 pages of crap? #lazy

-ASP

^
Example of ASP post (also confirming the post woot)

[Luna Fox]

It's pretty disrespectful towards a townie that spent time trying to solve the game by saying their reads shouldn't be sheeped because it's lazy.
VOTE: Rabble
Back to L-1 you go

[Luna Fox]

I wouldn't mind lynching him if he shoots rabble, but why would scum lie about something that makes ppl want to lynch them?

[Luna Fox]

I wouldn't mind lynching him if he shoots rabble, but why would scum lie about something that makes ppl want to lynch them?

I dunno maybe in hopes town is scared of getting shot ? His trail of thought is inconsistent.

I want an answer as to why he clarified what he meant by VT when he later admitted that he faked being vanillia in order to be pushed.

I can see a clear thought process but i'll let him clarify anyway.

[Luna Fox]

And Luna, why were you voting for hiplop?

Because his play this game is different from what i remember

[Luna Fox]

I'm sheeping dead townie too, so you can call me lazy and scum too.

[Luna Fox]

I've been sheeping dead townies reads since D2, dunno why you have an issue with it now. 2026, 2027 and 2028

[Luna Fox]

Oh cool i have a finished game now.

I think you did a great job at keeping up with it ika, keep working hard ^_^ I know how hard is to make decissions as a mod.

[Luna Fox]

Watchers can be werewolves, which means that if you're scum you're in a scumteam with botlane, that's where im currently looking at.

I'm not sure why you're defending yourself when i haven't even said whether i think you're in the same scumteam with botlane or not.
All i did say is that if you were scum you'd be in a team with botlane.

My feels.

[Luna Fox]

Amianki, question, were you legit scumreading me?

[Luna Fox]

I dont think it was subpar modding, only complaint i'd have is how you handled role cards (since they are supposed to be taken from the deck after assinging them to a player).

[Luna Fox]

whyyyyy did verdith shoot delenn

There were 2 wagons on scum (Vedith and Delenn), from his PoV shooting Delenn would prevent Delenn from converting to town and also get him towncred?
My failure is that i forgot to realize that a Vedith scum scenario meant 2 wagons were on scum and he would need said towncred.

[Luna Fox]

Guess maybe im too lenient and nice on others.
But you've made me look back at everything that happened and i see what you mean now.
I just don't want to be too hard on ika, because i feel that at least everyone doesnt do mistakes on purpose and they try to do their best.