UNI MUM Mafia (Day 3, Stay Gold Pony)

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/half confirm

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...You know, I think dramonic was being evil by

not

being evil with us.
I really don't see any way to read our role as being evil; it's...actually pretty good?

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Also: Errant's god-tiered town.
DiamondSentinel, BBMolla, and Cerberus V666 are all town.
Elbirn

might

be town, but it's too early to be absolutely sure.

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Oh. Right. Need to quote this, sorry.

This is the part where I would post a confirmation, but I don't

actually

have my role PM yet (dram probably sent it to the hydra, and if hiplop told me the password, I can't find it), which means I can't

actually

confirm, least of all on my hydra.

I obviously have the password now, soyeah, no slips.

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Massflop: I'm always town in games with you guys. That's not even impressive. :p

What can I say?

I only play one or two games at a time right now.
Heck, before this game it'd probably have been ages since my last full game. (What was it, SC's game?)

I'm honestly a bit rusty.

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Massflop: I'm always town in games with you guys. That's not even impressive. :p

Like...3dice, Klingoncelt, Learned Hand, Edgar Allen Pro, and zMuffinman ALL posted. And I haven't already sorted them! I'm so ashamed.

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we gotta get an avatar or else I'm doomed to mix mastin's posts up with cerbs

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In your defense, some of those people only said /confirm. And some of them are hydras who didn't sign, so...

Only?
ONLY?!?

It's like you don't know me at all, man.

It's absolutely unacceptable for me to have no read on so many players with so much content!

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you're slipping, mastin. i've made a whole post that wasn't game-relevant and you still hasn't figured out i'm town. for shame

I KNOW, RIGHT?!?

(At least I can do it with two?)

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/confirm

Can we vote yet?

'Cause I kinda want to vote this.

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Dead serious mode, though: I'm like 95% sure this game features a MINIMUM of one type of redirection role, probably multiple, in addition to an equal number of roleblocking roles, thanks to our own.

So, uh. As town, take caution when using those; for investigatives also take

reasonable

caution in trusting your results. (For instance: If you receive results in the form of "Your target", I would be

incredibly

on-guard. But if you receive results in the form of "Player is/did", then short of bastard-modding, you can trust your result.)

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You could always make some up? I believe you did that in FFVII, and it was entertaining. You could even announce your read on people who haven't posted yet. Imagine if you were right.

It only works once, you know.

I mean, I suppose I could do it again if I felt like it, but honestly I don't.
It might have looked forced in FFVII, but it was still something I felt like doing so I did it making it semi-natural.

Here I just don't feel like it.
'Least, not yet.

Maybe later.
(No promises, though.)

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And, sheesh, hiplop, how long does it take you to find an avatar?!?

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Omg no. Bad avatar. Sad face is sad.

dram successfully made us miserable

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itt cerb tries to push me out of the lover relationship

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Hydras should sign,.......

I'm pretty sure hiplop doesn't use proper capitalization?

Did it work in ffvii? I didn't ever go back and doublecheck how accurate that list was.

Kinda

? The list was brought up multiple times in the game, it had some points going for it and some...not so much.

Also, I'm still sorry for locking you in that game.

You

aren't the one I blame.

do you still want to vote sharky

Actually, no.

Mastina, u were scums before and tried to get me out fast. Now, you make no thoughts on me.

Well...then my lack of thoughts on you should tell you I'm not scum!

While you're there, tell Santa which of your brothers and sisters are just bystanders and which are ebil.

That an intentional ebil?

So mastina why is parabola god tier town exactly?

Because clearly, the first poster is god, and clearly, god cannot be scum!

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if you can't tell the difference between me and mastin idk what to say

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if you can't tell the difference between me and mastin idk what to say

I'm pretty sure hiplop doesn't use proper capitalization?

Match made in heaven.

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YES!!!!!!!

thats the last one!

And yea I mean our minds are gonna be NSYNC but our typing fingers work differently

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Mastina, God was scum before. You can be anyone II.

Lies, that was Jesus!

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(Mental note to self, need to check with the mod about our ability. There's a couple of things which could use clarifying, following Cerb's advice. Kinda sorta, anyway.)

While you're there, tell Santa which of your brothers and sisters are just bystanders and which are ebil.

That an intentional ebil?

^Still want this.
(I may have a read on you, but an answer could help solidify that.)

Also, tn is town. So's Shiro. And Jeanne is, too.

3dice is probably scum.

I'm not happy with two miller claims here and I'm not certain why this hasn't be noted :/

Because, in a dram game, you can expect nothing less.

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So, eh, just curious, what does everyone think would be the single most overpowered single target non game breaking non killing thing you could target someone with that benefits town? Let's call this a thought experiment. Skies the limit, except for the limits I made. Make stuff up.

How about this?
Something that tags a player.
Said tagged player will have every player they're visited by from that night onward publicly listed, AND will have every player THEY target listed.
As in, public permanent watcher/tracker.

That's single-target, non-gamebreaking, right?

Masonizer is probably my second bet, though it's prone to failure from ascetics, commutes, hides, blocks, and redirects, so only if it succeeds.

Public weak cop would be another one: die targeting a player, and it's announced; don't die because of the player, and it's not announced.

Basically, things that give undeniable, hard evidence, which is incredibly strong.

...Or you could always go with being a bee distributor who can remove bees to cop a target.

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What in the world is a scum miller?

Something mods think is a good idea, particularly with town rolecops, not thinking about how they'd feel

as a player

upon the discovery.

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It'd actually be a pretty interesting play for two scum to claim miller knowing that town wouldn't have the balls to lynch them for it. Might even have the effect of the ones claim being believed after the other dies. And deters alignment checking roles which there are sure to be in a role madness
*popcorns*

Hey.

Remember how I said you might be town, but it was too early to tell?

Yeah, good call on my part about the too early to tell.

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You aren't my Godmother are you?

Probably not, then.
The phrase ebil caught my attention for ~reasons~, but you're telling me it's nothing so that means it was probably nothing.

Why is TN town?

...Because he is?

I don't understand how you're townreading Jeanne, would you mind pointing out why?

Literally everything?

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Also,
VOTE: 3dice.

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Hey, cerb.
Remember that thing?

Here's that thing.

ErrantParabola
zmuffinman
Shiro
Jeanne11

Cerberus v666

tn5421
BBmolla
DiamondSentinel

Learned Hand
sharky5x

roleplay25
Klingoncelt
Edgar Allan Pro

Davsto

Elbirn
3dicerolling

Approximately.

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ErrantParabola
zmuffinman
Shiro
Jeanne11

Cerberus v666

tn5421
BBmolla
DiamondSentinel

Learned Hand
sharky5x

roleplay25
Klingoncelt
Edgar Allan Pro

Davsto

Elbirn
3dicerolling

Approximately.

Actually, switch molla and tn.

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...And maybe tn and Diamond, then molla and Diamond.

ErrantParabola
zmuffinman
Shiro
Jeanne11

Cerberus v666

DiamondSentinel
BBMolla
tn5421

Learned Hand
sharky5x

roleplay25
Klingoncelt
Edgar Allan Pro

Davsto

Elbirn
3dicerolling

(Though...even then, maybe not? The Learned Hand tier seems a bit low. )
Ack.
I'm going to eat.
I'll figure something out later.

This'll have to do for now.

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hiplop head is hella far behind! I had a busy day today, hopefully will catch up tomorrow or potentially if I can't sleep, in a few hours

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catching up. Sorry holidays are fucking me

It's not a lol claim. I would have no reason to claim it if it weren't true.

it pains me, but I'm pretty sure this is jeanne town. I've played with her a few times and this level of antagonism does seem quite different than usual.


@roleplay, can you please get an avi? I have a hard enough time reading cerb as it is; I don't need to be confusing you two!

Jeanne/Titus seem weird together. I know they hydra but something feels kinda weird around it. That's the only part making me question jeanne town, like, she seems awfully intent on getting on titus good side.

Btw, if that shot is real, I'm going to tell you what I tell every idiot who performs a day action earlier in the day than absolutely necessary: Don't do that. It's dumb. I don't care how much the noise of the conversation is annoying you, it is poor play, unless you have an expectation that you will be vigged yourself. Hell, as a vig, who has suspicion on him, if town, you have plenty of reason to save any shots you may have for later, when you know more. It's not like scum are gonna shoot at you.

Cerb = town. This reminds me SO much of FF7 mafiacerb, who was town.

3dice feels sorta similar to the game where he was my scumpartner but I don't know his town game so I'm not gonna do anything on that front.
fwiw

fwiw, he feels a lot like town him in pick your power bltiz. Not sure what to make of him. I keep swapping back and forth on his slot. What game was that, dav? Can you link me?

about~ half caught up. Trying to build my interest. I should be good-to-go tomorrow, and hopefully mastin is back by then

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Jeanne's desperation is particularly noticable, she was usually quite toxic/crazy when she was under pressure, where here shes more paranoid. Thats a difference, I guess.

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Titus, explain the "wrongness" of that davsto post? Try to, anyway? I think you might be onto something there

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So don't read if you don't want to see an idle rant.

Spoiler: Bored Mid-Game Rant

Y'know, the more I think about it, the more I'm a bit mad. I figured UPick was a good way to start an interesting Role Madness game, but after looking at your story (and making some assumptions on it), I feel like Dramonic didn't even try for this one. Some people undoubtedly tried to take advantage of the UPick system (I'd estimate like 3, at least), but I gave an idea that I honestly thought he'd make something interesting with, and he didn't even try here. I'm not going to claim yet, but yeah. Just idle ranting.

mine is awesome FWIW

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So...posting outside hydra 'cause it would take me too long to go through the process of getting into my hydra.
But basically: I spent today traveling to get to my grandparents' house. Which, y'know...has the archaic internet of nightmares. (As in: it takes five minutes to load a page. We're talking early 90s dial-up here.)

I can only post during the night, and I'm rather tired today. The holidays are going to be hell on me.
For obvious reasons, don't expect me to be playing much for the next week or so.

Particularly given that I'm supposed to be playing as a hydra. (My partner will have to quote this.)
Hydras are supposed to coordinate their reads and whatnot and what to do with their role if applicable.

I'll

try

to see if I can get a post in within the next two or three days or so, but...not tonight (too exhausted), and probably not tomorrow (because...Christmas, duh).
No promises. Guarantee I'll be active once I return from vacation, though! (Because, yeah, I can do that now. I just haven't had the time right now thanks to trip preparation.)

hip catching a slip

Im also behind. gonna catch up tomorrow or something. surprisingly busy because of the big red man

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hiplop here. I'm finally in a situation where I can catch up. I'm having an awful time catching up with all the Jeanne spam. Really, really killing my drive tonight. Making a cup of tea and I'll see how far I get. So so sorry for the delays on our Hydra, I think the holidays have been exhausting for the two of us.

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Nnng.
Too tired.
Got distracted playing a video game, it got late.

Good news: back sooner than I thought, so can play.
Bad news: too tired to be coherent, will get to the game tomorrow since I dont' have anything scheduled then.

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here, sorry for all those delays. I am FINALLY here and will be active. One of those awful busy one after another things of life, apologies. ALSO it is sorta awkward to catch up as hydra without your partner. So this is all me, basically.

Hey I have a role, I learned the alignment of 3dice.

He's a scumbutt

good catch. I think you're right, this reads as a trick to get a quick-clear on him or a buddy. Good play had it worked. I think if this lynch-with-PM-Lucid Dream thing,

I nominate 3dice as a candidate

Wait holy shit

Holy shit

This is your fakeclaim.

You have one of those "message the mod and they'll post in thread powers" and you came up with this.

Actual holy shit

Fate has brought us together, I think.

I believe I know who you are and it excites me. Yep. I think 3dice is almost unquestionably scum.

If the moderator doesn't go for anything confirm able like that (and I don't mean some dumb in-thread message, mod messenger is a really common role in these sorts of role madness games), then we lynch.

Agreed.

VOTE: Sharky - claim looks like a scum role.

Not sure what RP is even slightly on about, but 3dice's advocating for cop in a setup with godfathers is pretty telling.

This post is suspect to me. Whats so confusing about the messenger theory? I think its easy to understand. The resistance here is telling, perhaps an attempt to backup the claim.

I mean, if I don't prove what I am, it's easy to have me lynched on day 2. So why so insistent on lynching me today before I have the chance to use my role?

If I have learned at all how to read you (AND I think I finally have), I believe you're town this game. Please stop being so self-preserving and spammy, please. Why is this what you chose to comment on at this time? Huge, potentially game-changing info was made ITT and you continued to argue about surviving until tomorrow...why?

I don't see how yours trump that. Shiro's dream is a scum claim.

titus did I miss something ? Shiro's dream? Or is that a typo meaning sharky? I assume the latter but sometimes I miss stuff :\

Low post number =/= lurking.

Zmuffin has had a lot of content.

Who should Sharky give a desperado to?

eh? I literally can barely remember a muffin post (har har, us too, I know). Dudes awesome but like us is totally lurking here. I'm not sure why you chose to step in, but it makes me feel kinda weird titus

It seems odd to me that muffins first post after edgars claim wouldn't state "oh yeah I have the perfect ability for that!"

And then here seems to be an attempt to weirdly pin him

Something weird going on here I think. Two very strange handlings of a strong player being absent in thread by elbirn and titus.

Seems strong. Either tn dies and Sharky is confirmed town, or Sharky dies and was scum. Which means he wouldn't do it. So instead he would just dream that someone shot tn...

Yeah, never mind, doesn't work if Sharky is scum.

DING DING DING.

This desparado plan fails MISERABLY if sharky is scum. Can't be anything with killing, I don't think. We have to make sure it grants us information only if hes actually a lucid dreamer.

I recommend running EVERYTHING by dramonic though. Ask "If I dream " I invent a compulsive D1 desperado shot to tn, and my action succeeds, will you alllw it, and what will happen if he is scum? What will happen if he is town?" Ideally you'd want the time limit a day compulsive would have, what happens if he doesn't choose a targef, WHEN whatever happens happens, etc.

Really liking cerb here. I really do think this is town cerb, I stand by my old town read.

Okay great, Sharky lied. This was unexpected.

What happens when you shoot him?

We'll see who errant shoots. If its a regular shot, lynch shark IMO. Probably a scum inventor or something

Why are you suspecting I could be third party..?

If the gun is an ordinary gun then I've been deceived.

"I invent a day one compulsive desperado gun and hand it to Errantparabola"

I asked before if I could do this, and I could. I don't understand why errant sees it as a regular gun.

...lol. I actually think this could be dramonic being cheeky. Grammatically, he is just getting a gun.......................god dammit sharky

Part of me thinks this is an elaborate gambit using daytalk. This is seriously complex. Straight out of the kuribo method of "when caught, make shit up and hope people get confused and let go"

'

god dammit. This is mass flop, sorry.

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3dicerolling (1): Mass Flop

Just noticed, I'm damn happy with our vote.

Personally I think he should shoot 3dice.

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I think if 3dice is scum, and the shot works, we know it was a scum gambit carried out by 3dice/sharky.

Only one IMO that gets us the potential alignment of sharky

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Why are you suspecting I could be third party..?

If the gun is an ordinary gun then I've been deceived.

"I invent a day one compulsive desperado gun and hand it to Errantparabola"

I asked before if I could do this, and I could. I don't understand why errant sees it as a regular gun.

I think if 3dice is scum, and the shot works, we know it was a scum gambit carried out by 3dice/sharky.

Only one IMO that gets us the potential alignment of sharky

Like I respect you as a player and all.

But this is legitimately awful.

This is two players with two contradictory claims. One of them is not town.

like you said, proven roles =/= proven alignments. I see oppurtunity for errant/sharky both being scum or whatever, or even dramonic being sneaky/sharky being stupid town.

I stand by my 3dice shot idea, but will also support a sharky-shot.

hmmm...maybe errant is lying it as a real gun because he is in fact scum, and knows he cannot shoot it? Trying to get out of performing the act of killing? That actually makes sense.

Okay, yea. Shoot sharky

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Errants stalling is driving me mad. I completely agree with the lynch on him if he's going to continue that

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Not just bad, ooh, players have bad reads.

No. Like... there was no reason for it. And you never elaborated on it.

honestly mastin did this in final fantasy 7 mafia too as town. I think its just something she finds fun. the two of us haven't talked much because holidays etc, but yea lol its quite obviously somewhat in jest. Mastin has all of like 3 posts in the actual game lol

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if theres anything you want to ask me about go ahead, but I really can't defend that read list other than to say i think it was mastin having fun and has done the same thing and been pushed for it as town

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did titus ever explain the klingon=conftown thing?

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I assume sharky isn't scum (unless multiball, but no point wondering) because of tn.

still not sure what to make of Errant.

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oh wait I'm wrong there

theres almost no way sharky IS town, with that role? If the shots are unlimited?

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i still wouldn't be surprised of errant/sharky team

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Since family night isn't happening tonight, thought I'd pop in quickly to say: not site flaking.
Just...very, very preoccupied with something that to you would be something you'd prioritize as being below mafia but which to me is really, really, REALLY important. (Read my blog for the details.)
Regardless of whether I succeed or fail, I'm going to be back Monday, but that's time I won't be here, because...well, yeah. I REALLY want to get this project done. It holds significant personal meaning to me and is a MAJOR milestone in my life if I can get it done. (We're talking like, "finishing the first draft of my novel" big, or "getting my first job" big. As in, HUGE.) So I'm going to ask my hydra partner to hold the fort until Monday. I'll overcome inertia and contribute then. Somehow. Because yeah, need to rebalance my mafia life. Just...now now. Three days from now. Consider it V/LA.

silly mastin

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oh shoot, deadline is coming. fuck.

roleplay, I know that defense is weird...but so was the action. All I can do is point you to the fact that its a mastin thing that she does either way! Any reason you comment moslty on the player who has been widely absent? I have posted quite a lot of stuff but you still narrow your gaze on that readslist (that i dont agree with)

LOL @ muffin's nickleback

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yeah, sharky is like, almost definitely SK. Too strong on either side imo, that is what I meant, sharky by not town or scum. Apologies for poor wording. Stuck on phone until tomorrow

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I'd be fine with a lynch on KC,3dice or MAYBE errant

not sure what the DS one is, he seems like mislynch bait to me based on other games

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VOTE: klingon

this'll do

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Yeah, I really am not a fan of this diamond wagon. Looks an awful lot like scum pushed on a guy who is town but saying dorky stuff

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Presumably translator is how she knew who had post restrictions.

VOTE: Klingon

Really didn't like that "I'm obviously town" (which NOBODY has said), but I didn't care to comment on it.

At the same time, too scummy to probably be scum unless her scum buddies are nigh on killing her in chat, but still, she won't help us this way.

DiamondSentinel lynch please.

Very weak justification for vote as well as a sort-of defence for when she flips town. This is a nasty post, now we know Klingon is town.

UNVOTE:
obviously KC is the wrong lynch today.

Anyone interested in a davsto lynch?

Presumably translator is how she knew who had post restrictions.

VOTE: Klingon

Really didn't like that "I'm obviously town" (which NOBODY has said), but I didn't care to comment on it.

At the same time, too scummy to probably be scum unless her scum buddies are nigh on killing her in chat, but still, she won't help us this way.

DiamondSentinel lynch please.

Very weak justification for vote as well as a sort-of defence for when she flips town. This is a nasty post, now we know Klingon is town.

this push on DS comes off as hella oppurtunistic, and in fact the rest of his posts aren't particularly great either.

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VOTE: davsto

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You want to screw the town over? I can help you.

You've done the screwing up yourself, Jeanne.

You haven't done a single helpful thing. All you've done is yell and scream random crap, doing the following:
confusing everyone

And if you

are

town:
distracted basically everyone from scum
given scum an easy way to hide

Also, what the hell was this?

@Davsto @Elbirn Don't say a word.

I hadn't said anything in ages, why say that?

Fuckit, no-one in this game is gonna get anything productive done if you continue flailing about like this. You've claimed one thing, softclaimed about seventy other things, and I can't see a single town motivation in anything you've said. Hell, you could be a Mass-Cop and I still couldn't care less because, with all the things you are saying, I wouldn't trust you to actually tell us the real results you got.

Basically,
VOTE: Jeanne

Now, you gonna keep making noise now you're dead, or are you going to actually try and help us?

3dice feels sorta similar to the game where he was my scumpartner but I don't know his town game so I'm not gonna do anything on that front.

Well shit. I reread and both 3dice and Jeanne are scummy AF

Talk about going for the easy targets.
VOTE: DiamondSentinel

That post is just... WOW. So ridiculously stupid.

"I have someone who I think is scum, and there's someone else who also thinks that they're scum, but the scummy person is an easy target (even though I think they might be scum) so I'm going to vote the person scumreading them."

Get the fuck out of here.

I never said I scumread 3dice, stop intentionally misinterpreting my posts.

Davsto is NAI from this

I'm Net Annual Income?

He seems to be exclusively targetting people who are more emotional/apt to be mislynched (ie, Jeanne, Diamond)

Only reservation here it that bad vote claim...

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Is davsto the sort of player who would make a play like that?

I think he just might be, while being able to go out on more risky ground than he normally would (ie, blatantly pushing really fucking easy lynch-bait) Normally that puts you in hot water, his claim causes us to give him benefit of the doubt.

I think roleplay is right, I think this is a trick role of some sort.

3dice, if I'm wrong on this I'll give what you say more credence but I really think I'm right here; trust me?

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I'm voting you because it's easier to fake self-sacrifice than it is to fake scumhunting. And yeah, I'd rather off someone useless than useful day 1, all other factors considered, but I don't think you're fucking town.

This. His calling my push as a policy lynch is pretty telling too, I believe. I think he is trying to dismantle the case because "hurr durr policy lynches are bad"

we got two today, boiz

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I'm voting you because it's easier to fake self-sacrifice than it is to fake scumhunting. And yeah, I'd rather off someone useless than useful day 1, all other factors considered, but I don't think you're fucking town.

This. His calling my push as a policy lynch is pretty telling too, I believe. I think he is trying to dismantle the case because "hurr durr policy lynches are bad"

we got two today, boiz

Considering I literally said I should be policy lynched at some point, fuck this, this is misrepresentation at its finest.

I'm dying in this game, but it's by vigilante shot, as simple as that. Me dying by lynch gains basically no info because several votes will be policy. In the same way, killing people by vig gets very little wagon info and the like. Thus, best to kill two birds with one stone and lynch me.

This wagon seems out-of-the-blue, convenient, and opportunistic.

VOTE: Mass Flop

Also, "a trick role"? You don't believe that my vote doesn't count? I'll prove it - when we decide on a lynch today, let me "hammer". If it lynches, go ahead and lynch the shit out of me tomorrow. If it doesn't, go ahead and vig the shit out of me tomorrow, as by request.

Simple enough?

This logic does NOT come from a person who genuinely thinks they should be policy lynched.

WHY THE FUCK WOULD I AS SCUM GUN FOR YOU IF YOU COULD EVENTUALLY LEAD TO AN AUTOWIN, AS YOU SAY? Trick role as in vote comes back, its gone temporarily, you can disable it whatever, I don't give a fuck. You're scum for reasons outside of that role, but this post here is an explicit confession that you are no mere bad-voter. You can't even think from the point of view of someone who is. You're survivalistic, clearly.

Lynch with fucking fire.

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Like fuck, it is quite blatantly not a policy lynch, but your attempt to "strawman" (hey look, I can buzzword too!~) by calling it that is invalid. Seriously, you're not playing like someone who is okay with sacrificing themselves, not at all. You're playing extra opportunistically with the shield of "why would that be a scum role!?"

pedit: Cerb, think about Davesto's immediate reaction to vote me back. THIS IS NOT A GUY WHO WANTS TO SACRIFICE HIMSELF. At all. He's trying to get an easy clear."
pedit 2: nice callback

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Hey dav, this is a UNIMUM game. My role is strange, I'm guessing

everyones role is complicated

. That is not conspiracy talk, this is a role with many strange gears that work out in a crazy way. You're using that to your advantage for an easy clear. That is not conspiracy, that is understanding we're in the UNIMUM game in and not fucking mini normal

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such a noble scum you are.

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I'm fine with not lynching him today but holy fuck if he lives much further and he doesn't die I'm going to all caps rage for days

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Rrr.
It's 3 AM.
I still have a promise to fulfill in making a linked in account tonight.
...And, also, because I failed my art blitz (well, actually, I succeeded, just not in the intended way: I failed to get the pages done that I wanted, but I got something much, much better out of the deal, where I became actually CONFIDENT in myself), I need to finish the page for my comic. Heck, I was planning on doing a second, but that's not happening tonight.

I realize I've got a shitload of pages to read, but I don't have the time right now.

(Honestly, I'm not going to have nearly as much time as I thought I would, really. I was thrown a curveball yesterday. See, I submitted for work hours as a lifeguard, paraphrasing, "I can work all these hours, but I would PREFER to only work one day: Sunday." I was hoping that was granted. Yesterday, I went in and got the new schedule...and found out that I work literally every single day except Saturday, for a SIGNIFICANT amount of time. So it wasn't. Meaning, all that time which I was hoping to have free, I now...don't. Monday is the worst shift because it's at night, thus, why it took me so long to get here. I won't be able to get caught up immediately. But I WILL be able to get caught up. If I told you I'd get caught up tomorrow, that'd be a lie. You're probably going to have over 80 pages by then. I will, however, say that I SHOULD have the free time tomorrow for mafia as to at least begin. The key here will be getting caught up faster than you produce content. I'm pretty sure I can do that. I simply can't do it right NOW. So I realize it's a bit of game neglect, but it won't last long. I'm strategically attacking my time management, now. Carefully planning out what I can and can't do. Can't: spend hours to get caught up overnight. Can't: work for a short time TONIGHT. Can: work for a short time tomorrow. It sucks, I know, I hate doing this more than you could EVER possibly imagine, but I *need* to be smart about how I manage this unfortunate situation.)

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I'm confused, is mastin's reads list supposed to be colourized?

Nope, never do that.

This is the way I've done it for...well, a long time, now. It's efficient.

That being said, probably gonna need to start from scratch.

I remember basically nothing.

Soyeah. You can ask about any read, and when I eventually get to that point I'll answer, but there's like a 75% chance the answer will be, "...Well honestly I don't know anymore. It happened there, so I had to have had a reason, don't recall it anymore." (The other 25% being if something jogs my memory.)

No, the stupidity award goes to you. Only stupid people would scumread me when I am town.

Very much town.

tn and sharky read town to me. idk about jeanne. 3dice is slightly scummy.
VOTE: diamond

Errant, you are

really

good at making me half-love, half-hate what you say.

Still thinking town though.

VOTE: DiamondSentinel
Calls out Jeanne and I for mixing insults with content.
Does the same thing a post later.

This is still scum.

Saying shit like this and only stupid people scumread you day 1 is overly antagonistic. Second, it's false. All you're doing is making people WANT to lynch you. Every ounce of information revealed MUST have a purpose. I don't see any reason for Lol claiming mason. That's what you do AFTER the scums wagon you, not before.
Think before you post. Does this post help people read me, show someone as scum, help solve an alignment or unify town? If no, don't post it.
I am a stubborn dick at points, but you must know what you are doing.
~Titus

Titus is being nice.
Titus is being NICE.

I am, very, very, VERY much, freaked out about this.

Glad to see that you are town this game.

ESPECIALLY given this.

(Yes. This is where I'm at.)

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What if I told you I was masons with Jeanne, how would that change your appraisal and why?

Well you're both town anyway, so.

Not liking Elbirn around Page 17, either.

tn

may

be scum also from that same page, hard to say.

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So far, Elbirn looks town and Jeanne... I... I don't even know. "Lynching an investigative is scummy and I could be investigative thus you are scummy"? What even? But she's probably town, even if she is probably causing more harm than good if she continues in this manner. 3dice feels sorta similar to the game where he was my scumpartner but I don't know his town game so I'm not gonna do anything on that front.

Well shit. I reread and both 3dice and Jeanne are scummy AF

Talk about going for the easy targets.
VOTE: DiamondSentinel
Titus slot is 1000% town.
People without avatars. Grumble grumble. I guarantee I will either mix up Cerberus and RolePlay or forget that one of them exists. Please, for all that is holy, get an avatar one of you.

This is pure scumposting, 100%.

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i don't really have an issue with the two miller claims and it's even less of an issue in a role madness game
also, i think shiro is more likely than not town

^This.
(zMuf's town.)

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Shiro let's be masons
I can be your sidekick and help your brainwaves or something
Shiro and elbirn, 100 years of shiro and Elbirn .com

Botched miller fakeclaim
10/10 will lynch with fire
VOTE: Shiro

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Through 20.
tn's almost definitely scum, but I feel like he's scum who was bussed.

I realize this is only six pages of reading, and there are 86 pages meaning a rate of over 6 in a day, but...well...it's 2:30 am now. Still have work to do, so this'll have to do for the time being.

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Mastin is finally back, holy shit yes lol. Took this hydra so I could share the amount of time invested in the game and thats been mostly missing (still love you mastina <3)

I want to address something re: Titus vs Roleplay, I think this is a personality clash over sensitive words. Roleplay was obviously quite fond of you (called Titus/Mastin both the most analytical players on site, and that he likes me and drixx). Implying this was some vendetta beforehand is kinda meh. Can we just try to get along? Lots of people don't value one insult over another, and do a more stream-of-conciousness style of play. I understand drixx/titus are hurt, but if it means anything, I honestly don't think that is muffins or roleplays intention. They're people of my generation who have fun with things like shock humour (I too thought the spine thing was fucking hilarious). Can we please get over this and just play this game?

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Why are there, like, no wagons? Everything dies at like 4. Scum pushing for a no lynch?

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Titus, I really REALLY don't think elbirn is scum. Like, I don't even want to call that townvtown because I'm not entirely sure of your alignment. I just think what you're saying is wrong, and you're tunnel insanely hard for ??? reasons

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cerberus.
do you think that LH is scum?
I heard you mention that LH's town utility is too great to risk it, but I don't remember if you explicitly thought LH was scum.

I want to hear this answer too. I am in the boat of I think they might be scum, but could potentially be helpful. Wrestling with that dilemma

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I already answered that hiplop. Keep catching up.

Oops. Completely missed that post. Okay, got it.

Who the fuck should we lynch? I have way too many townreads (the people I'm scumreading are all not possible today, apparently)

I'm a human trashbag fuck me.

pedit: I fucking lol'd muf

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my last word on topic:

you can't expect people to know your trigger words. I personally also refrain from the retard word for similar reasons but like people don't know my life story I can't expect them to know the things that set me off more than usual! I like you a lot drixx, just you can't impose your sense of justice on everyone else too

pedit: I honestly don't think RP is scum cerb, any other ideas?

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Was that a hammer?

is there a secret like sexta-voter in this game???

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It has been 11 pages since a votecount :/

true

but jeanne not knowing dav = no voter = WHAT

I'm making myself miserable

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VOTE: Jeanne

Probably getting coached, intentionally acting stupid. Like...I don't expect miracles from her but this is beyond the level of incompetence I'd expect

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UNVOTE:

Forgot about TN thing. Fuck me.

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tbh I agree. I can see this extra-badness coming from her ACTUALLY being an IC

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It's blue. As a user of mafblue I can barely see it, I'm triggered.

who the fuck uses mafblue

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Shiro use mafsephia, it will literally change your life.

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Wait a minute?!

This place has themes ? Like it not jsut the black one ?

user control panel -> board preferances -> enable sitechat (do it, its fun!~)-> mafsepia

lifechanging

@cerb I'm sorry. I'm thinking about this intelpip wagon and going through my notes. in the meantime why not enlighten poor, young shiro?

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cerb you're talking like a south pole elf

you must use mafblue

seriously though, fucking propose something instead of hiding and asking us to do it?

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I would normally say something like this in private, and in hydra, but I want to make it clear who is speaking.

@Dramonic - You seem to have misunderstood something I said and then publicly chastised me because you misunderstood. I quite clearly said that

IF

I thought someone had done something bad enough to warrant being force replaced or mod killed, I wouldn't be having a conversation in the thread to try and tone things down a notch, but instead would say something privately. I wasn't fishing for any action on your part, but rather trying to handle it without you needing to get involved.

~_~ drixx cmon

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cheer up, dram dealt with it. you cant take your cake and eat it too

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Titus did this exact same song and dance in Mafiaceptiom where she was scum. If mastin doesn't oppose to much I think that's the right way to go today. She's being deliberately anti town, drixx's claim was absolute trash and came off with a degree of arrogance as if he expected to be clear forever. This is not what I expecr from town drixx, but more importantly imnpretty damn sure this is scumtitus.

VOTE: learned hand

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By same song and dance I mean awkward deadline play trying to keep a lynch in a certain pool, ignoring people and reacting in less than desirable fashion. I'm on phone rn but the parallels are insane.

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so...waiting on dram

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As to why Mass Flop:

- Mastin hates bussing more than any player I know
- Mastin can fabricate a claim better than most players on site
- Mastin is not afraid to link herself to another scum player to save both. It's cheeky, but two scum day 1 is bad.
- Hiplop ain't no slouch either

I mean it's not 100%, but if he's red then MF scum shoots waaaay up in my book.

Okay I'm gonna address this.

MASTIN HAS MADE 3 POSTS THIS GAME. Everything has been me, its been me all along Austin

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Like if you think I would do that stuff, go for it, but like mastin has been gone lol.

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I actually feel it makes them *more* likely to be town than not, but as my esteemed neighbor reminded me, it was very weird of Titus to be actively working to deconstruct a wagon as we were that close to deadline. Even if it was a townread of hers, I would expect town!Titus to resign themselves to a mislynch in favor of the no lynch. It is possible that her standard priorities changed though, given that we had already accomplished the most a lynch could have hoped to accomplish, thus making a successful vig on scum+no lynch superior to vig on scum+mislynch as the end result of the day.

I thought this initially too, but I point you to Mafiaception where Titus did the exact same thing for her scum buddy. I think it paints her as scum here, honestly

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VOTE: learned hand
Might as well make dav's vote worth something :p.

Also I agree. Titus is one of the players who will go to the grave trying to protect a buddy. She is lovely but in situations like this I think we caught her.

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What theThe last game she was scum in she poked Silver quite regularly. Actually, do tell about this meta. I hate meta cases, but I hate meta cases because they're easy for scum, and I really truly do not trust you in any way.

I literally mentioned it in the post before. Mafiaception? Look it up. She got caught for it there too.

I mean, holy fuck. No, I'm not right about everything, but they were valid fucking reasons. Please drop it into your hopper that there are people who play mafia who are actually your equals, and that you are definitely not perfect. I'm not even saying better than you, but your equals (in the moral sense, that's all of us). So when one of your equals (and that should be the entire town, to your mind) says something, at least give it some respect, and when it turns out to be true, consider you might be wrong.For fucks sake, Cerberus said Itle. Itle wasn't even on my radar. What did I do? I looked at Itle, said "holy fuck, you are 100% right, this guy is scum" and I backed him to the hilt. Hell, I backed him so far he wasn't even sure of his original read anymore. If I'd told Cerberus "shut up, I'm smarter than you, there's no valid reasons for Itle" I don't know what might have happened yesterday, but I doubt the outcome would have been as good for the town.If you don't want good things to happen to the town, feel free to ignore everything I said here.

QFT.

Honestly.I think you just claimed scum.

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

YES YES YES.

Yeah, I believe she got redirected 29-209343499348238%. But why did she target Jeanne in the first place? Scumclaim.

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Mafia site broke for me and lost a post apparently

Nothing weird over here cerb. Not that I know of, anyway?

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sorry I'm a bit behind I skimmed a bit, though.

Basically we have two confirmed scum? IMO there is no way RP is scum, honestly. This is hella town reaction.

I did not roleblock EAP last night, and if no one else did I don't see scumberus going on on a whim like this for a varsoon 1for1. I'm okay with

VOTE: eap

LH, RP, consider each other conftown for the rest of the day. And EAP as super likely scum. Go find out who the other scum is.

Remember, I said to NOT just pile on votes. We have information here. Let's use it and the time in the day to find the last scum, instead of having this argument about LH vs RP tomorrow with no more information than we have right now.

Pedit: cuz it's irrelevant, unless someone has a reflexive roleblock they didn't claim. If the other person is scum, I don't want them to be able to create a claim (like I just did) that exonerated EAP.

PILE ON!

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hiplop head is sick and not really able to be attentive, and I think mastin has basically flaked

if theres anything immediate yall want me to answer I'm kinda lingering but really hard to really catch up. I know, another excuse I'm sorry...

I really think eap is scum

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right I'm just faking sick...

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no unexpected messages; 3dice why are you still tunnelling

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greyplay, they ARE tunneling. 3dice has been on my slot like, ALL GAME. I CAN bring up quotes if you want. I'm asking him to give me a chance. I hate playing games when I'm being read wrong

like sorry I've been lurking but I got ditched in a hydra and it fucking sucks

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when you expect to split work in a large game but instead have to do everything; its not a fun experience

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I doubt it. Haven't read or posted anything :\

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I miss her too

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isn't LH confscum? did I misunderstand?

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oh I forgot what desp did thought it was reversed

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because I got your identity wrong and you have been playing to my town read on their meta >_>

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Did anyone else think they were a neutral survivor when they first read their role pm?

Also, VOTE: Mass flop

because I got your identity wrong and you have been playing to my town read on their meta >_>

Haha

Meta is bullshit.

I've told you that a dozen times, Hiplop.

Fucking bullshit.

I mean yes, I'm town, and your meta read on me was town, but fuck, like 75% of the game is town at the start, it's not fucking hard to be right by coincidence.

we haven't played much have we? also that's true about this whole game

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I'm town fuck you all

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I'm sorry I'm just pissed someone would fake a guilty on me.

I'm pretty sure I have an explanation actually?

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My role is sorta weird. I am essentially a role thief, and I took EP's role. I thought it only applied to the vote bookie, but like maybe it included miller?

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Yes! That is why. There was an explanation about redirectors/ascetic sorta guys which made mastin assume there was more than one

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Essentially the initial steal of the role can't be redirected/blocked, but when I pertform the action it can

Essentially the initial steal of the role can't be redirected/blocked, but when I pertform the action it can

additionally its a "free action"

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it works on dead bodies. That's why I couldn't do it on the dreamer? I can do it now...

day one I did it on TN, day two I did it on errant?

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fuck off its my actual role

I'm the moment when you can't pick a role for a upick

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I'll grab sharky's role and you can leash me idgaf

Action immunizing is not a good role for town?

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role flavour is right there

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I'm the jack of dead trades (/jokes)

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flavor is basically fuck you that wasn't funny lol

THAT IS MY FLAVOUR ROLEPLAY. LIKE MY FLAVOUR IS THAT IM THE JACK OF DEAD TRADES AND JOKES, BECAUSE DRAMONIC SAID MY FLAVOUR WASN'T FUNNY

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rolename: the moment when you can't pick something for a upick

flavor is like "fuck meta humour you're not funny I'M FUNNY"

role is Jack of dead jokes/trades

pedit: Yes, but I picked it up for the rest of the role. And the opposite was no helpful

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idk that's my theory? Like its either from TN's role alignment or its from ep or 3dice is lying

I have no idea. Honeslty I'm so upset. I'm town and gonna die cuz of some game fuckery

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its the truth :\

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honestly if its because of tn's alignment I'm just hella pissed at dramonic.

this game is tricky and like fuck

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I know and I'm fFUCKING PISSED about it.

seriously. LOSING BECAUSE FUCKING MOD FUCKERY SUCKS

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IDK. Like I'm going to ask dram if I take their alignment and become a pseudo miller.

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I wish haha

got fucked by a stupid role

thanks dram... (<3)

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I can become lucid dreamer and like win this game for us

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Its the wrong call but w.e.

I can literally lucid dream whatever y'all want. I won't fuckup like fire